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[01:55:42] <richlowe> arekinath: hey, you should make libc_mktemps less embarrassing.
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[02:27:00] <LeftWing> I think he's busy moving back to the antipodes
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[02:41:33] <rmustacc> richlowe: I regret looking.
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[02:51:58] <arekinath> omg
[02:53:21] <rmustacc> I think I might just replace it with a bunch of arc4random_uniform() calls.
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[02:55:47] <arekinath> fancy doing what obsd does while you're there and requiring at least 6 Xs? ;)
[02:56:51] <arekinath> maybe we should search pkgsrc first for users of <6 Xs to see if there are any
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[02:59:41] <melloc> A bunch of files under usr/src/test/zfs-tests use fewer than 6 Xs, at least.
[03:00:16] <melloc> There are a number of files under usr/src/tools/smatch/src/smatch_scripts, too.
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[03:03:45] <arekinath> blech
[03:03:48] <arekinath> of course there are
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[03:07:17] <rmustacc> Sigh, of course.
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[03:20:49] <alanc> protip from someone whose seen the fallout of enforcing the 6X minimum rule in there, fix this first: https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/blob/4e0c5eff9af325c80994e9527b7cb8b3a1ffd1d4/usr/src/cmd/sgs/m4/common/m4.c#L44
[03:21:02] <alanc> saves getting angry calls from sendmail admins
[03:22:06] <richlowe> alanc: now now, it's not 6 X _minimum_
[03:23:04] <alanc> isn't that what arekinath was asking to do?
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[03:24:14] <richlowe> maybe I missed something?
[03:24:32] <richlowe> but xpg6 very clearly says you shall have _6 trailing Xs_
[03:24:32] <alanc> (it's what we did at the same time as our switch to arc4random_uniform() in there)
[03:24:36] <richlowe> no greater no fewer.
[03:24:46] <alanc> <arekinath> fancy doing what obsd does while you're there and requiring at least 6 Xs? ;)
[03:25:12] <richlowe> that's only ok for mkd* and mks* :)
[03:25:20] <richlowe> I'm sure Joerg will fill you in... :)
[03:25:57] <richlowe> alanc: huh, I missed getting any reply at all :\
[03:26:02] <richlowe> arekinath: does that mean you won't do it? :\
[03:26:20] <rmustacc> He may be tricking me into doing it?
[03:27:33] <alanc> there were multiple replies: https://echelog.com/logs/browse/illumos/1563832800
[03:28:26] <alanc> but still, whether you choose >= 6, or == 6, m4's use of only 5 should be fixed
[03:28:48] <rmustacc> And probably all the other places melloc mentioned.
[03:29:19] <alanc> yes, though tests & smatch are much less impactful to your end users
[03:29:45] <richlowe> ugh.
[03:30:49] <richlowe> I'm guessing they disappeared into a whole between the proxy and myself :\
[03:30:54] <richlowe> and a hole, too
[03:31:29] <richlowe> and I was very much not serious about the laughable standardization of mktemp(), except as far as xpg7's
[03:31:31] <richlowe> which removes it :)
[03:35:50] <alanc> the long block comment at the start of mktemp.c also loses points for the number of times it says "mktime" instead of "mktemp"
[03:37:13] <alanc> oh, it looks like our check is == XCNT, and only active in XPG6 mode
[03:38:24] <alanc> never mind, that was relaxed to reduce the blast radius
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[03:51:05] <richlowe> sounds like an insufficient commitment to standards compliance!
[04:02:22] <alanc> undefined behavior doesn't always have to result in nasal demons, it could just work sometimes
[04:02:48] <alanc> OpenBSD apparently pushed the other way, and allows more X's now
[04:02:58] <richlowe> also sounds like an insufficient commitment to nasal demons.
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[08:41:30] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11484 usr/src/cmd/ypcmd/ypupdated.c is unused -- Peter Tribble <peter.tribble at gmail dot com>
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[15:00:13] <leoric> Please, review http://buildzone.oi-build.r61.net/webrev-11496/ (work by schily)
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[16:06:40] <jubal> hey all - silly question about zpool iostat and lz4 compression -- when i do a zpool iostat on a compressed filesystem, are the read/write megabytes per second reported as the compressed writes to disk, or are they the uncompressed numbers?
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[16:07:49] <LeftWing> jubal: I think they're the actual numbers; i.e., post-compression. You could confirm with iostat though.
[16:08:10] <jubal> oh duh! thanks for the tip with iostat :) Thanks leftwing
[16:08:20] <LeftWing> You're welcome!
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[17:29:35] <igork> https://paste.dilos.org/?35dea8ce85d8e32d#reO+pDzRwz4bvfQeWIVf1mwKWIQTgbe0++JtUhLK2/E=
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[17:29:53] <igork> how to try to identify what fmd-self-diagnosis is doing
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[18:12:27] <LeftWing> I would start by finding the place where the ev_recv counter is bumped
[18:12:38] <LeftWing> And figure out what is causing that.
[18:20:17] <tsoome> um, any suggestion for zfs backup script?:)
[18:21:32] <tomww> tsoome: I'm using a modified zetaback
[18:21:59] <tomww> added buffering, a "-F" to zfs recv
[18:22:35] <tomww> I like the policy grandfather/father/son
[18:24:10] <tsoome> I only need to ad-hock backup of few datasets:)
[18:24:53] <tomww> well, then there is almost no scripting needed :)
[18:25:32] <tsoome> true
[18:26:09] <LeftWing> tsoome: zrepl seems pretty together
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[18:29:30] <jlevon> andyf: FYI we actually ended up seeing that nvme header thing with smatch, but only in certain builds. it's a mystery to what exactly is different right now.
[18:29:59] <jlevon> the smatch invocations are the same, implying that it's the actual build of smatch that matters?
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[18:36:34] <jlevon> yep looks like it.
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[18:55:39] <igork> LeftWing: thanks for update. it is issue with mpt_sas + external jbod
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[18:56:32] <igork> it is remote system and will try to ask about configuration - i do not understand why it trash syseventd\
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[20:05:24] <leoric> Do I remember correctly that we don't have 'Exit on first failure' nightly flag?
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[20:11:14] <rmustacc> leoric: I believe you can comment out the line that sets 'k' in MAKEFLAGS
[20:13:19] <leoric> thx
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