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[03:58:32] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11203 Support for NVMe drive firmware updates -- Paul Winder <Paul.Winder at wdc dot com>
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[08:52:58] <khng300> btw, it seems that illumos is directly overwriting the content of Vector Control register in MSI-X table entry without preserving the fields except mask bit which may not be in compliance with PCI 3.0 (2004)? https://reviews.freebsd.org/rS349845 http://src.illumos.org/source/xref/illumos-gate/usr/src/uts/common/io/pci_intr_lib.c#530
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[09:55:45] <sjorge> wdc? Western Digital?
[09:55:58] <LeftWing> Yes
[09:56:00] <sjorge> I thought they were bought by HGST... or was it the other way around?
[09:56:14] <LeftWing> I believe WDC acquired HGST.
[09:56:22] <sjorge> Yeah, just googled it :p
[09:56:36] <sjorge> Nice that they're pushing improvements!
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[10:11:20] <LeftWing> It is!
[10:11:45] <ptribble> I think the point is that WDC acquired Tegile
[10:12:01] <LeftWing> Yes that sounds about right
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[10:28:20] <tsoome> ldap_add: Invalid syntax
[10:28:22] <tsoome> sigh
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[10:29:54] <LeftWing> tsoome: What do you get that from?
[10:30:39] <tsoome> ldap_add: additional info: objectClass: value #1 invalid per syntax
[10:32:03] <LeftWing> Are you making your own call to ldap_add(3LDAP) or is this output from an existing tool?
[10:33:30] <tsoome> /usr/bin/ldapadd
[10:33:46] <LeftWing> Ah. What LDIF are you giving it?
[10:33:58] <tsoome> your dit.ldif :)
[10:34:29] <LeftWing> Are you using the "ldapadd" that came with OpenLDAP or the one in the base OS?
[10:34:58] <tsoome> ye I just found there is *other* ldapadd too
[10:36:23] <tsoome> but the error is still the same nevertheless:P
[10:36:49] <LeftWing> Does it say which DN the error is for?
[10:36:59] <tsoome> adding new entry "o=test"
[10:37:43] <tsoome> https://paste.ec/paste/l8puh2hJ#TsT2G9rE-xSbMgOirEJ/y2PDYha4SOFi5+OeQqQmml9
[10:40:31] <LeftWing> Are you able to ... openldapsearch -h beastie.local -D cn=Manager,dc=local -w secret -b cn=config > file.ldif and put that somewhere
[10:42:01] <tsoome> hrm.. result: 32 No such object
[10:42:11] <tsoome> interesting
[10:42:49] <LeftWing> Can you pargs your slapd?
[10:43:20] <tsoome> /usr/lib/slapd -u openldap -g openldap -f /etc/openldap/slapd.conf
[10:44:26] <LeftWing> OK so if you've set your /data/ldap tree up like that document suggested, you'll need to make sure it starts with "-F /data/ldap/config" rather than "-f ..../slapd.conf"
[10:44:29] <wilbury> tsoome: do you have top object? what's in file.ldif?
[10:44:36] <tsoome> ok the slapd.conf is messing things up somehow
[10:45:22] <LeftWing> The OpenLDAP slapd has two configuration modes, basically. The legacy -f *.conf mode, and the newer cn=config tree based -F /config mode
[10:45:49] <LeftWing> I should probably make the "Start the OpenLDAP Daemon" section clearer
[10:46:41] <tsoome> well, it is not about your section, it really is about if I get package installed and service enabled, I should not have to think about 2 different modes there.
[10:46:42] <wilbury> where's that document, LeftWing ? i'd like to also review :-)
[10:46:52] <LeftWing> https://github.com/jclulow/illumos-ldap/tree/master/openldap
[10:47:33] <wilbury> hm, i used idsconfig from SUNWdsee for this :-D
[10:47:48] <LeftWing> I did, too, once upon a time
[10:48:06] <LeftWing> wilbury: https://github.com/jclulow/illumos-ldap/blob/master/openldap/schema/illumos.ldif#L2-L13
[10:48:54] <wilbury> idsconfig creates EQUALITY rules afterwards, iirc.
[10:49:08] <wilbury> and uses also VLVs
[10:50:48] <LeftWing> If it did create EQUALITY rules afterwards, I couldn't figure out how
[10:50:51] <wilbury> nevertheless, i've had illumos (smartos) ldap client running using ldap_client_file and ldap_client_cred files transferred from solaris 10 ;-)
[10:51:19] <wilbury> hm, if i had sunwdsee running somewhere... all my solaris 10 boxes are now gone
[10:51:29] <LeftWing> Mine too!
[10:51:41] <LeftWing> I'm pretty sure I have DSEE media somewhere
[10:51:52] <LeftWing> But it was easier to crib from idsconfig itself -- https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/blob/cf8408718275b7f097c42550143f5c9517e00cc0/usr/src/cmd/ldap/ns_ldap/idsconfig.sh
[10:52:59] <tsoome> much better with config dir
[10:53:03] <LeftWing> Great
[10:55:28] <LeftWing> Looking at idsconfig.sh again, I feel that 5374 lines of shell script is too many lines for a shell script.
[10:58:18] * LeftWing heads to bed &
[10:58:32] <tsoome> yea right of course we have that braindamaged nsswitch.ldap template...
[11:01:16] <wilbury> yes, that template is a bit... hm... out of mind
[11:02:11] <wilbury> and then also pam_ldap comes into play and there's where the fun is!
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[12:35:18] <jlevon> remind me why don't at least best-efforts keep .gitignore current
[12:36:54] <andyf> I do not know. We do keep it current in our omnios fork..
[12:37:26] <andyf> the script that does it could be added to onbld
[12:38:25] <jlevon> care to make an RB? :)
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[12:46:33] <andyf> I can add it to my list..
[12:47:17] <andyf> @richlowe, do you have any patches lurking to make gcc-ar work reasonably for illumos/gcc?
[12:47:40] <tsoome> I’d really love to see separate object tree for build working files:D
[12:48:28] <jlevon> andyf: cool
[12:48:34] <jlevon> tsoome: that's... a bigger ask
[12:48:42] <tsoome> yep.
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[12:49:13] <tsoome> not sure if our make can do it anyhow:D
[12:49:26] <andyf> I should probably come up with a plan and either a tiny IPD or discussion on the mailing list..
[12:49:46] <andyf> hooking it into nightly as a post-step makes more sense I think
[12:50:34] <jlevon> a tiny IPD sounds good.
[12:51:01] <jlevon> obviously we'd want it to be optional otherwise it will lose its purpose :)
[12:51:26] <jlevon> so it might be better described as an RTI step.
[12:53:22] <andyf> If nobody else gets to it, I'll look once I've finished the hyperv stuff
[12:53:39] <andyf> Unfortunately, I'm not getting a lot of time to do illumos stuff at the moment
[12:54:13] * jlevon nods
[12:55:19] <andyf> It really helps if you use things like ripgrep or fd that take account of .gitignore, and ripgrep is now definitely part of my workflow for illumos
[12:56:17] <jlevon> what's fd?
[12:56:26] <andyf> a find replacement written in rust
[12:56:43] <andyf> https://github.com/sharkdp/fd
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[12:57:19] <jlevon> nice
[12:57:19] <andyf> My most common use is `fd -e rej` (-e == extension)
[12:57:50] <andyf> that probably says more about my development workflow than it should...
[12:57:58] <jperkin> is there much advantage of using ripgrep inside a git repo compared to git grep?
[12:58:51] <jlevon> it'll grep unknown files
[12:59:14] <andyf> Probably.. it's really fast and I often use --glob (rg -i lint --glob 'Makefile*')
[12:59:17] <jperkin> I guess, but usually I'd find that a disadvantage ;)
[12:59:18] <jlevon> I can see myself finding that handy during dev every now and then...
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[12:59:58] <andyf> it handles multiline, which can be really useful looking for error messages
[13:00:13] <andyf> but there's probably a large overlap between the two
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[15:38:07] <rmustacc> jlevon, andyf: The request last time it came up was to have tooling so it didn't get out of date.
[15:38:46] <jlevon> ok, good that it does exist then.
[15:38:55] <jlevon> though I do feel like even a trailing list is better than what's there now
[15:42:55] <rmustacc> I understand where you're coming from. Different folks were of different minds, I think. Some based on the fact of the one in illumos-joyent gives git status all the latency, but none of the benfits since it's out of date.
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[16:34:02] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11363 libsldap: fix memory leaks and use calloc and asprintf -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[17:44:24] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11173 libsldap: cstyle cleanup and some fixes -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[17:50:12] <tsoome> darn, should have changed the description a bit…
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[18:27:45] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11279 AMD F17 core topology is per process node -- Robert Mustacchi <rm at joyent dot com>
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[18:55:41] <Agnar> *sigh* nwam again ruining my day :(
[18:56:19] <Agnar> I need some free time to look at that code
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[19:37:12] <Yogurt> hey all
[19:37:52] <Yogurt> question for anyone willing to field a newbie question; how is illumos (say the OI distro) as a laptop os?
[19:38:08] <Yogurt> is it generally ok if I'm on older hardware?
[19:40:11] <tsoome> you just have to try it out
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[19:48:33] <Yogurt> is there any recommended hardware? I don't actually have the laptop yet
[19:50:49] <jlevon> see illumos.org/hcl
[19:51:01] <tsoome> I’d ask from OI list
[19:51:06] <jlevon> but that is only partial truth
[19:52:52] <Agnar> Yogurt: I'm running it currently on a thinkpad x230
[19:53:01] <tsoome> hm. we should make some sort of information collection like fbsd did there: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2018-October/089773.html
[19:53:29] <Agnar> Yogurt: wifi, video, etc works. suspend is not really working on most laptops, so don't expect that
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[20:00:22] <Yogurt> Agnar: Gotcha, thanks
[20:14:51] <rmustacc> tsoome: Yeah, I'd be happy to suggest what to include if someone wanted to rig it up.
[20:16:14] <tsoome> I guess we would need a bit of web interface to post into and simple script to post with:)
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[20:17:26] <rmustacc> I hear LeftWing loves these things.
[20:17:57] <tsoome> indeed, my idea too:)
[20:34:01] <richlowe> LeftWing, Woodstock: did either of you look at the tools link-editor and feel happy?
[20:36:24] <Woodstock> richlowe: i haven't. can you send me the link again?
[20:37:49] <richlowe> done
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[20:45:57] <Woodstock> thanks. i'll try to test it tomorrow.
[20:57:02] <richlowe> well, LeftWing said it worked, it's more whether it'd work for what you need it for too :)
[20:58:02] <richlowe> rmustacc: did you try the cfun gcc thing?
[20:58:07] <richlowe> or should I try to do that in a bit?
[20:59:45] <rmustacc> richlowe: That's what I'm about to get to actually.
[21:00:03] <rmustacc> Just working out the related-ish issue with the driver that tripped over and working with the mfg on firmware dumps.
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[21:14:21] <clapont> hi everyone
[21:16:33] <rmustacc> Hello
[21:36:09] <tsoome> hi
[21:38:22] <wilbury> hi
[21:39:01] <wilbury> tsoome: regarding the ldap, you might want to try "apache directory studio" to manage ldap directories (and even some aspects of openldap, for example.)
[21:39:17] <wilbury> it's an eclipse based beast but does its job very well
[21:39:46] <tsoome> yea, i only need for simple test, but thanks
[21:40:05] <tsoome> needed*
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[21:46:14] <jbk> yeah apache directory studio is pretty decent
[21:46:31] <richlowe> did the ASF pick up Sun's naming-things group?
[21:47:05] <jbk> i've thought about a terminal based ldap explorer -- make it look a bit like a filesystem that you can cd in and out of, ls objects to see properties, etc.
[21:47:43] <jbk> seems like it could be neat..
[21:49:53] <wilbury> there is vimldap or ldapvim or something like that
[21:50:14] <richlowe> and eudc
[21:50:18] <wilbury> ldapvi
[21:50:38] <wilbury> ldapvi is an interactive LDAP client for Unix terminals. Using it, you can
[21:50:38] <wilbury> update LDAP entries with a text editor. Think of it as vipw(1) for LDAP.
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[22:13:18] <alanc> whee for 30 year old man page bugs!
[22:15:10] <alanc> https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/blob/master/usr/src/man/man1/at.1#L638 != https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/blob/master/usr/src/cmd/cron/cron.h#L77
[22:15:41] <alanc> paths in cron.h were changed 89/09/14 11:54:55 jek3 without updating the man page to match
[22:16:06] <rmustacc> wanh wanh
[22:16:56] <rmustacc> Though there's still an at.deny in Adm.
[22:17:31] <rmustacc> Oh, because it's a symlink, of course.
[22:18:20] <rmustacc> Well, bugs can lurk for a long time. Lucky us.
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[22:22:20] <alanc> yeah, presumably few people have bothered with setting up allow/deny files for cron, or figured out the right path on their own
[22:23:29] <richlowe> I think I once used that stuff.
[22:23:32] <richlowe> ever.
[22:29:18] <alanc> I only noticed because a customer complained one of our compliance checking scripts wasn't ignoring comments in the file, and after verifying the code doesn't have any concept of comments checked to make sure the man page didn't document that comments were allowed
[22:30:06] <ptribble> I've used that, often, and read the man page, without spotting that error
[22:30:19] <richlowe> ptribble: You had a lot of users who screwed up with cron?
[22:30:22] <ptribble> Often your brain translates it into what it expects to see
[22:30:23] <richlowe> or you were preemptive about it?
[22:30:26] <alanc> I guess the /usr/lib/cron -> ../../etc/cron.d/ symlink does hide that
[22:30:54] <ptribble> I had a lot of users (as in tens of thousands) and had to exercise rigid controls
[22:35:29] <LeftWing> We used controls like that on multiuser shell systems at the University
[22:38:52] <richlowe> ah, students.
[22:40:22] <ptribble> In my case, academic researchers (older, but not necessarily wiser)
[22:40:48] <ptribble> Who would try and run their jobs on any likely looking node on the network
[22:58:23] <alanc> yeah, seems to be a common theme in the University environment - "if you didn't explictly lock me out, you basically made it a shared resource and gave me permission to use"
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[23:05:08] <richlowe> but you _said_ the network was the computer...
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[23:17:01] <sjorge> @alanc and if you notice 1 day later and lock it, by god will they go to the dean and make sure the node is now soly his to use for the rest of his employement
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[23:38:05] <Cthulhux`> still no sbcl
[23:38:07] <Cthulhux`> *sigh*
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[23:59:29] <richlowe> what's wrong with it?
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