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[00:08:16] <richlowe> ptribble: Not exactly
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[00:09:26] <richlowe> ptribble: the uniq has the side effect of resolving opaque definitions, not doing so will leave them exposed to DTrace, which for important definitions may break the stuff in /usr/lib/dtrace
[00:12:11] <richlowe> ptribble: did I miss something about not just fixing it properly?
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[00:21:51] <ryaeng> LeftWing: The parent option looks like it expects a branch and not a commit.
[00:22:06] <LeftWing> ryaeng: Did you get an error message?
[00:22:31] <ryaeng> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NOTSqOMq/image.png
[00:23:24] <LeftWing> ryaeng: What does "git branch" tell you is your current branch name
[00:24:45] <ryaeng> master
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[00:25:18] <LeftWing> Do you get a SHA if you run "git rev-parse origin/master" ?
[00:27:02] <ptribble> richlowe: on sparc, building bignum, the ctfmerge fails because mont_mulf_kernel_v9.o (which comes from assembler) doesn't contain ctf
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[00:31:54] <igork> ptribble: try to use old ctf tools - you can update Makefile.master to use it
[00:32:15] <igork> i have additional issue with new ctf tools and zfs updates and switched to use old ctf tools
[00:32:17] <andyf> ptribble - there's a way to fix that - I hit the problem just last week
[00:32:31] <LeftWing> No, don't try to use the old CTF tools
[00:32:39] <LeftWing> That's not how things get fixed.
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[00:33:25] <LeftWing> Did we perhaps add a ctfmerge flag to ignore object files with no CTF in them?
[00:33:35] <richlowe> I thought something like that
[00:33:41] <richlowe> or to be more relaxed about it.
[00:33:54] <andyf> yes, I'm just trying to find my commit
[00:34:07] <richlowe> Just to confirm: did the object never contain ctf?
[00:34:17] <richlowe> if it used to and now doesn't, that should itself be investigated.
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[00:34:46] <ptribble> As far as I know, the object itself hasn't chnaged
[00:35:03] <richlowe> it'd be good to check, just in case
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[00:36:37] <richlowe> ctfmerge -m probably?
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[00:42:40] <andyf> Ah mine was to change $(POST_PROCESS_O) to $(POST_PROCESS_S_O)
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[00:44:05] <ptribble> andyf: I have that for some errors in libc
[00:45:24] <ptribble> Hm. So adding -m to CTFMRGFLAGS ought to do the trick there
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[00:46:00] <ptribble> I'll try this tomorrow if I can
[00:46:49] <ptribble> It's a little confusing having 2 versions of ctfmerge in the gate, though...
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[00:49:59] <richlowe> it's paranoia
[00:50:06] <richlowe> when rmustacc gets back, let's ask him to delete it :)
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[01:58:05] <pebble2015> hi
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[06:40:58] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11053 loader: zfs_alloc and zfs_free should use panic -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[06:43:32] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11054 loader: malloc+memset is calloc in spa_create -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[12:11:21] <sjorge> Does gitomat also dump the messages in a separate channel? I sometimes miss them if there is a discussion going on
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[14:58:47] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 11076 ZFS test mmp_on_zdb should clear disk labels on exit -- Kody Kantor <kody at kkantor dot com>
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[15:17:13] <domag02> hi all!
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[16:36:28] <ryaeng> domag02: Good morning
[16:37:44] <domag02> ryaeng: hi, good afternoon :)
[16:39:46] <ryaeng> I see you're in Hungary. It would be afternoon on your side of the planet. ;-)
[16:40:53] <igork> evening in Russia west and midnight on Far East :)
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[16:44:46] <ryaeng> Nice
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[17:11:24] <tsoome> what kind of ups is recommended nowadays? it should also buffer the power on peak
[17:11:46] <jimklimov1> I am biased :)
[17:12:01] <toasterson> tsoome for what purpose? HOme or dc
[17:12:05] <tsoome> home
[17:12:09] <tsoome> sry:D
[17:12:28] <tsoome> just one host behind it
[17:13:09] <toasterson> Depends what you want. I have a 2 minute + peak smoother socket plug thingy
[17:15:36] <toasterson> I have an Eaton 3S700IEC
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[17:17:04] <denk> ippon 2000VA for home with 4 external batteries for 100Ah, it works more than 7 years
[17:17:50] <toasterson> thats overkill for me 🙂. How many hours on battery can you get off of that beast?
[17:18:41] <denk> in theory 48h but I don't know it
[17:19:09] <tsoome> hm, i think something smart with like 1000VA would be good enough
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[17:19:21] <toasterson> that sounds like a heavy battery
[17:21:09] <toasterson> Mine has network ans USB ports to talk to the hosts behind it. Should actually install them properly again.
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[17:29:57] <jimklimov> well, for smaller deployments back in campus we went for cheap but reliable powercom's with serial port for NUT monitoring
[17:30:03] <jimklimov> go figure, now I make NUT :)
[17:30:21] <jimklimov> and products off it for a living
[17:31:30] <jimklimov> for the lab in the Uni we had various APCs, at a higher price point per VA, with online ones feeding the racks
[17:31:55] <tsoome> part of my problem is that if there was an power outage, then returning power will also get peak from computer starting and causing fuse to fire
[17:32:16] <tsoome> kind of stupid:(
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[17:32:57] <jimklimov> so as they charged the converter on one side and discharged on another, never had peaks (or lows) in the grid impacting the internal protected power network, even fixed up the frequency sometimes
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[17:33:35] <jimklimov> do you have one computer starting so hard it crashes your power? or several systems you can spread over time?
[17:34:06] <jimklimov> and in that one computer, are there e.g. many HDDs so staggered spin-up would make a difference?
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[17:34:53] <jimklimov> at my current work here we have various Eaton models
[17:35:29] <jimklimov> for multiple devices, some magic with either ePDUs or with UPSes that have separately manageable outlet groups can help
[17:35:48] <tsoome> just one computer but also few home appliances
[17:36:04] <jimklimov> there you can set up that e.g. this outlet (or group) gets power ASAP, and this gets power in 30 sec after wall-power appears, etc.
[17:36:18] <jimklimov> specifically in order to not get a burst of everything initializing at once
[17:36:28] <tsoome> yep
[17:36:58] <denk> compute the power you need, then choose a model
[17:37:39] <jimklimov> denk : part of the problem is that systems booting draw MAX power for the first say minute, but then can use a few times les after power-management aware OS kicks in
[17:38:10] <jimklimov> or just spinning up mechanical HDDs vs keeping the spin running, great difference
[17:38:36] <denk> it's not a problem, just compute the full power, and not only active part
[17:40:22] <jimklimov> as for "hiding the peak load", I think an online UPS can help here, as it feeds the load from battery. Simpler UPSes (line-interactive) feed from wall power directly as long as it is estimated good, and switch to battery in under a few msec if it is estimated bad (missing, spikes, lows, etc.)
[17:40:23] <jelmd> sometimes circuit breaker make a difference. E.g. in Germany in normal households you often find Type B only, but for stuff like UPS Type C should be used ...
[17:41:34] <jimklimov> jelmd: I guess it depends also on the expected power draw, e.g. an UPS for one PC still eats roughly same as one PC
[17:41:51] <jimklimov> and UPS for a home rack eats like an oven switched on for the whole day
[17:42:26] <jimklimov> which translates to Watts and/or kVA's, and ultimately to Amps drawn
[17:42:41] <jimklimov> also make sure to have cables thick enough so they don't heat up
[17:42:57] <jimklimov> this underestimation happens a lot too often
[17:43:07] <jimklimov> and then boom
[17:43:30] <jelmd> exactly. When they start, they often pull much more than expected .. (Type B resists ~3-5x of the rated current, type C ~10x).
[17:44:02] <denk> btw, it is a surprise for me that you need a UPS at home in Germany
[17:44:08] <jelmd> for a short time of course, only
[17:44:51] <jimklimov> as the NUT docs said a long time ago, "Special thanks to our grid provider for the authentic outages to help test this code"
[17:44:53] <jimklimov> ;)
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[17:46:08] <jimklimov> BTW, also note that many UPSes intentionally do not power up the load as soon as wall power appears
[17:46:24] <jimklimov> on one hand, during repairs it can soon disappear again
[17:47:09] <jimklimov> and on another, the well-behaved UPSes would first charge to the configured minimal limit, so if the power goes out again they can guarantee again that your system shuts down cleanly
[17:47:28] <jimklimov> which can mean a delay of 1-2 hours by default after an outage is resolved
[17:48:00] <jimklimov> somewhere you can configure this, somewhere not, still at least something to keep in mind
[17:48:47] <jimklimov> and also note that some HW should not be on UPS, like tea kettles (yes it happens too in larger deployments, where building wall power in some sockets comes from UPS) ;)
[17:49:11] <jimklimov> or more practically, laser printers are presumed to be power hogs and should not be battery-protected
[17:49:48] <jimklimov> for them, many UPSes offer a socket that has filtered power (cleaner than the random-quality wall power), but not battery-backed
[17:49:59] <denk> now tsoome will not buy anything :)
[17:50:33] <jimklimov> well... it is like we had with these ooh new fancy unknown smartphones
[17:50:47] <jimklimov> buy something cheap, to understand what you like, dislike or miss
[17:50:57] <jimklimov> in a year make a better educated guess that matches You :)
[17:51:41] <jimklimov> if there are too many unknowns, get something monitorable, preferably from NUT HCL
[17:52:38] <jimklimov> and size just by your kVA expectation, maybe by ability to configure outlet groups if you need to separate startups and shutdowns of some hardware vs other devices
[17:54:18] <jimklimov> I've had very decent experience with Serial and network-monitored UPS from Solarish systems, and 50/50 with USB connections
[17:56:05] <jimklimov> it is expected to get better out of the box with the next NUT release, until then mixing and matching certain branches that are not yet in master is the next best thing for running on OI and OmniOS at least
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[18:29:08] <ryaeng> LeftWing: I get SHA when I run "git rev-parse origin/master"
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[20:32:08] <rmustacc> ryaeng: I just saw your message regarding https://www.illumos.org/issues/10810. I'm just settling into things, so would it be alright if we touched base on it next week?
[20:34:42] <ryaeng> rmustacc: Yes sir
[20:38:10] <rmustacc> OK, thanks.
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[21:37:33] <ryaeng> My pleasure.
[21:39:16] <ptribble> Regarding 10810, don't zones already have a uuid?
[21:39:27] <ptribble> 'zoneadm list -p' shows one, at any rate...
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[22:02:14] <LeftWing> ptribble: They have, I think, at least one
[22:02:44] <LeftWing> But as I recall, and is probably described in the ticket, I think the issue is when in the life cycle the value can change etc
[22:02:53] <LeftWing> And also providing a supported way to get it from inside the zone
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[22:11:27] <tsoome> https://illumos.org/rb/r/1866/ anyone? it will make things better…. :)
[22:12:32] <rmustacc> I probably can in a little while, once my head feels like it's at the same time as my watch.
[22:12:59] <tsoome> :D
[22:13:48] <tsoome> ok, time to get some sleep,,,
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[22:33:07] <domag02> tsoome: I will review that
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