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[00:26:35] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10882 math headers should stop supporting K&R C -- Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>
[00:26:36] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10881 more C99 math macros should be compiler builtins -- Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>
[00:26:37] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10880 posix_memalign() should avoid clobbering return parameter on failure -- Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>
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[01:24:00] <richlowe> random question: Am I the last one left using webrev?
[01:24:09] <richlowe> ... does this mean I should make the effort to work out why rbt broke? :)
[01:24:11] <jbk> no
[01:24:27] <jbk> i use it for manpage stuff (much nicer than rb)
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[01:25:41] <jbk> though i don't know if that's a common enough case to justify keeping it
[01:26:25] <richlowe> well, keeping it is another matter, but I'm not using it because it stopped working and I couldn't be bothered to work out why.
[01:26:31] <richlowe> I should not be that guy.
[01:28:31] <jlevon> rbt?
[01:28:57] <jlevon> also, what am I, chopped liver?
[01:29:58] <richlowe> rbt is the command line thingy to post things to reviewboard
[01:30:07] <richlowe> unless there's another way now?
[01:30:11] <jlevon> oh. no idea.
[01:33:25] <richlowe> jlevon: also, you should look at the other gcc fixes of mine!
[01:33:37] <richlowe> LeftWing: also, you should add jlevon to whatever github groups gcc/ requires!
[01:33:41] <richlowe> or does it not work that way?
[01:34:12] <richlowe> there's groups I'm in that sound pretty powerful, and I'm not actually sure what they confer, if anything :)
[01:34:14] <jlevon> the save-args ones? I just noticed them
[01:34:28] <richlowe> jlevon: I figured, that's what brought up the group thing.
[01:34:32] <richlowe> jlevon: maybe it'd have notified you then
[01:34:43] <andyf> rbt works for me, FWIW
[01:35:14] <jlevon> is this the first time we've ever fixed these tests or something else?
[01:37:08] <richlowe> jlevon: it's the first time to really go into the test suite and try to make it _clean_
[01:37:14] <jlevon> ok
[01:38:02] <richlowe> for 4.4 I went through the failures with an eye to relevancy and explicability.
[01:38:35] <richlowe> but since we're trying to not fall behind so much, having the test suite be a thing will help with that.
[01:38:40] <richlowe> even given the frame pointer hell.
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[01:40:51] <rmustacc> richlowe: I alternate between them.
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[03:30:13] <richlowe> rmustacc: you said you'd made changes to cscope?
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[04:41:09] <LeftWing> richlowe: rbt is not so bad
[04:42:10] <richlowe> LeftWing: I know, I used it, then it stopped working, then I got lazy
[04:43:22] <LeftWing> Fair enough
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[06:35:45] <rmustacc> richlowe: No, I always was about to and then never did.
[06:48:36] <tsoome> btw, is there any work going on on acpica update?:) just noticed freebsd had new vendor import:)
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[07:00:55] <rmustacc> tsoome: No, I have not been looking at anything like that.
[07:00:56] <LeftWing> tsoome: None at Joyent of which I am aware.
[07:01:26] <tsoome> aye
[07:02:21] <LeftWing> I feel like we at least have a guide on steps to take now if somebody wants to tackle it?
[07:02:55] <rmustacc> I suspect it was just updated due to an acpi related thunderbolt/xhci issue?
[07:03:43] <rmustacc> win 1
[07:03:45] <rmustacc> Oops
[07:03:47] <LeftWing> ha
[07:04:49] <tsoome> rmustacc: yes, it did seem so.
[07:06:23] <rmustacc> Hopefully I'll get my docs soon.
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[16:18:19] <igork> tsoome: ping
[16:18:50] <igork> https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/commit/e550644f0cdd5c3f312e8fc92846b8b1fc4290f2#diff-bf443e91ad3ff160585ee09aeb64f2ecR3553
[16:19:14] <igork> it is port to ZoL with changes in vdev.c
[16:19:41] <igork> is it applicable for illumos too?
[16:20:47] <igork> it is final diff with update: https://paste.dilos.org/?74041059d33d1125#Lg8zW8xgcD+Bpjnen/aUz9Jjxqed0SbHR4ytPJ2k3kU=
[16:36:07] <tsoome> it should be in illumos already
[16:37:55] <igork> you see my diff with ZoL - it has another update in illumos
[16:39:15] <tsoome> for second one, we can not mount root with multi-vdev pool
[16:39:34] <tsoome> not until LeftWing’s patch is in place.
[16:39:44] <igork> ok - it was question for confirmation about we are different in this place with zol
[16:41:00] <LeftWing> tsoome: I don't think my patches are needed if the /devices paths aren't changing, right?
[16:45:31] <tsoome> I am not entirely sure if we can collect pool config without scanning the devices
[16:45:59] <tsoome> vdev config is in pool label, but pool config is not
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[16:50:43] <tsoome> igork; can you check over https://illumos.org/rb/r/1774/ - I just got the RTI build
[16:51:00] <igork> one moment
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[16:52:02] <igork> done
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[17:04:51] <LeftWing> tsoome: I haven't verified at this moment, but I will note that I was able to used a mirrored root pool without a full device scan up until the /devices path changed in my test -- at which point it broke
[17:05:28] <LeftWing> I would sort of expect it to be able to find a preliminary pool configuration even on a single device out of the pool
[17:05:39] <LeftWing> (as long as the one we picked was working)
[17:06:05] <tsoome> mirror is simple - we have 1 vdev, and vdev devices are listed in pool label
[17:06:38] <LeftWing> I would think the pool configuration would have to exist on every top-level vdev, though, right?
[17:07:06] <tsoome> I am trying to check it over atm:)
[17:07:11] <LeftWing> Alright!
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[17:16:13] <tsoome> well, ya, we have label config and mos config, thats easy to see with zdb
[17:18:50] <tsoome> so the question is about if we can get the mos config from boot vdev.
[17:25:43] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10935 disk_label.so shouldn't be packaged on sparc -- Peter Tribble <peter.tribble at gmail dot com>
[17:30:53] <andyf> richlowe - why are you declaring frame like this instead of just as a pointer? https://github.com/illumos/gcc/pull/23/files#diff-ec459b8c3128fb2f0c15d982bc0e54f1R13148
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[17:31:45] <LeftWing> It's a C++ reference, right?
[17:33:16] <andyf> I actually have no idea :) It's in i386.c
[17:33:23] <LeftWing> Yeah but I think GCC is all built with C++ now
[17:33:33] <LeftWing> Because they have A Different Aesthetic Sense
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[17:38:58] <andyf> I never made the jump to C++; that's probably a good thing.
[17:56:36] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10930 libstand: fix copyright numbering -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[18:22:49] <LeftWing> I think we should stop having Github send copies of messages on PRs to the mailing list
[18:23:00] <LeftWing> It's somewhat confusing, it seems
[18:23:25] <LeftWing> If you want the PR e-mails, you can easily set up your Github account to watch the repository
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[18:38:24] <jbk> yeah, that's a reference
[18:38:43] <jbk> IIRC, there's also something like && too
[18:39:01] <jbk> i think they were jealous of all the sigils in perl 6 :)
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[18:40:40] <LeftWing> Oh man, they don't go to the list
[18:40:42] <LeftWing> hahahaah
[18:40:54] <LeftWing> I apparently only have myself to blame for getting two copies of everything
[18:41:31] <LeftWing> The old hg-to-github mirror account is apparently sending me second copies
[18:41:33] <LeftWing> sigh
[19:06:20] <andyf> I get two copies too... to two different email addresses
[19:06:35] <LeftWing> Yeah that was my problem
[19:06:43] <andyf> There's not much traffic so I haven't dug into it yet.
[19:06:46] <LeftWing> I had totally forgotten about the old illumos-push@... account I had
[19:06:57] <LeftWing> It looked _just enough_ like it was a mailing list that I assumed I couldn't fix it
[19:07:01] <LeftWing> I have now deleted the account
[19:07:33] <LeftWing> andyf: If you're using gmail, I was able to "show original" on both e-mails; it tells you Delievered-To: or whatever.
[19:08:01] <andyf> alpine.. I can use H to view the headers easily enough
[19:08:13] <LeftWing> Ooh alpine :D
[19:08:23] <andyf> I've never got on with these GUI email clients
[19:08:32] <LeftWing> I used alpine for a while before I found mutt
[19:08:43] <LeftWing> Unfortunately I've become attached to the way gmail labels work
[19:08:56] <andyf> ahhh I'm watching the repo with a different github account, easily fixed
[19:09:02] <LeftWing> There you go.
[19:09:08] <andyf> I use mutt for sending in RTIs, it's easier to script.
[19:10:13] <LeftWing> Yeah, fair enough
[19:10:27] <LeftWing> I can't remember... can you use $EDITOR with alpine?
[19:10:44] <andyf> I don't know, if I want to switch to vim I just press ^_
[19:10:51] <LeftWing> Fair enough
[19:11:28] <jperkin> which bit of gmail labelling doesn't work in mutt for you LeftWing?
[19:11:50] <LeftWing> It's just not easy to manipulate the labels
[19:12:11] <LeftWing> And mutt really wants to treat each label as if it were an IMAP folder, which it _sort of is_ but isn't quite?
[19:12:21] <LeftWing> Like, if I have four labels on an e-mail, there's still only one copy of it
[19:12:46] <LeftWing> And maybe I want to add/remove the labels without switching folders
[19:13:08] <LeftWing> Also, I enjoy the behaviour of gmail where it pulls my replies in to the thread automatically
[19:13:28] <LeftWing> I spent some time writing a gmail backend for mutt, and I got it to sort of work some of the time
[19:13:35] <LeftWing> (using the HTTPS API)
[19:13:43] <LeftWing> But there's just a bit of a disconnect
[19:14:48] <LeftWing> I know people do some things with various additional pieces of software (notmuch?)
[19:15:01] <LeftWing> But it was a bit too rube goldberg for me
[19:15:33] <LeftWing> richlowe is presumably shocked at this juncture
[19:16:04] <andyf> I had to look it up and translate it to "Heath Robinson" in my head :D
[19:16:33] <LeftWing> Ha, yes!
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[20:34:11] <neirac> Smithx10 finally I could compile nomad, I created a new pkgsrc zone in omnios, and worked perfectly
[20:35:02] <Smithx10> neirac: thats good news
[20:35:14] <Smithx10> I was starting to blame myself or think I was insane.
[20:40:20] <neirac> Smithx10 yes, that was pretty strange. I was frustrated, well all is good now!
[20:57:34] <richlowe> LeftWing finally slipping into americanisms!
[20:57:58] <LeftWing> I think we are more familiar with Mr Goldberg in Australia, for what it's worth.
[20:59:31] <richlowe> also, if you want heath robinson email, mh is the one true path.
[21:04:33] <LeftWing> lol
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[22:56:53] <richlowe> am I the only one who's ever wanted coreadm-y configuration on a per-fatal-signal sort of basis?
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[22:57:48] <richlowe> not extensively, but for eg "Don't global dump SIGABRT"
[22:58:27] <richlowe> and maybe signal number in the format
[22:58:39] <richlowe> (I haven't looked if any of this is possible, since it seems likely I'm the only one who's ever wanted it)
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[23:54:50] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10932 want _MACHDEP-free cpuset_t access -- Patrick Mooney <pmooney at pfmooney dot com>
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