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[00:00:05] <LeftWing> It's not unresponsive, at least to login: prompts
[00:00:12] <richlowe> yeah, it just really upset mdb in userland a lot
[00:00:16] <richlowe> such that it wouldn't sleep either.
[00:00:24] <richlowe> that's probably bad too
[00:00:26] <rmustacc> richlowe: I guess as the head of the kmdb users group, I'll be called in to figure it out.
[00:00:33] <richlowe> regular mdb
[00:00:36] <rmustacc> I know.
[00:00:43] <richlowe> but if you debug that SSE thing, you'll hit this too :)
[00:00:47] <richlowe> so you're already on the bus
[00:01:10] <rmustacc> As the resident kmdb apologist, I guess I'll have to take the case for normal mdb.
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[01:09:47] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10321 disk enumerator should make protocol/label prop mutable -- Rob Johnston <rob.johnston at joyent dot com>
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[05:01:42] <richlowe> alanc: cstyle.ms was available somewhere, right, not just the pdf?
[05:15:21] <LeftWing> I have not been able to find it anywhere on the internet
[05:30:58] <richlowe> infuriating.
[05:36:30] <LeftWing> We'll just make our own cstyle.mandoc
[05:36:32] <LeftWing> It'll be fine
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[09:13:07] <tsoome> um
[09:13:59] <tsoome> the construct: <!ELEMENT dependency ( service_fmri*, stability?, ( propval | property )* ) > — what does the propval and property mean there?
[09:15:45] <tsoome> or let me ask the real question - if we have service depening on file, the file name is passed as property, can i create path dependency using this same property name?
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[11:19:46] <andyf> tsoome, interesting, I've never seen those used in a manifest (and we have no examples in gate)
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[11:20:03] <tsoome> ye, i think i misread the xml
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[11:20:42] <tsoome> still i have this interesting issue:D
[11:21:26] <andyf> It just ends up being a method script that exits with SMF_EXIT_ERR_CONFIG or something
[11:21:28] <tsoome> the point is simple - we have console-login service with :default for /dev/console and :blaah for custom device, like /dev/term(0
[11:21:51] <tsoome> /dev/term/0. this one is usb serial and can be disconnected
[11:22:44] <tsoome> natural solution would be to add path dependency based on ttymon/device value..
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[11:29:31] <andyf> No idea why property/propval can appear there..
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[12:06:33] <andy_js> It seems that new tests added as part of 10452 are not enabled.
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[14:59:12] <andyf> ping gitomat...
[14:59:18] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10539 Update hwdata to 2019.03.12 -- Andy Fiddaman <omnios at citrus-it dot co.uk>
[14:59:40] <andyf> ok, just a tad slower than normal :)
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[17:35:57] <alanc> richlowe: I thought it was, but I'm not sure where
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[17:45:17] <alanc> hhttps://web.archive.org/web/20091221120858/http://hub.opensolaris.org:80/bin/view/Community+Group+on/ shows a link to the nroff source
[17:45:57] <alanc> but the archive doesn't seem to have ever captured it
[17:46:36] <alanc> https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/download/Community+Group+on/WebHome/cstyle.ms
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[19:23:20] <richlowe> alanc: yuck
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[19:51:24] <tsoome> ptribble: gz:)
[19:52:04] <LeftWing> tsoome: I have an OI VM which doesn't want to boot anymore
[19:52:14] <tsoome> hm?
[19:52:20] <LeftWing> It says "Booting from Hard Disk..." on the framebuffer, but I don't seem to hear anything from loader
[19:52:42] <LeftWing> I booted the installer ISO and I was able to import rpool OK
[19:52:48] <LeftWing> What do you recommend I do to figure out what happened?
[19:53:02] <tsoome> does it have console directed to serial?
[19:53:10] <LeftWing> It does, but nothing comes out COM1/ttya
[19:53:48] <LeftWing> https://i.no.de/a0cfbab7aebe4be9 -- looks like this on the VGA console
[19:57:43] <tsoome> I guess I’d try pkg fix loader and reinstall bootloader, I guess
[19:57:46] <richlowe> how old was the system before?
[19:57:51] <LeftWing> I can read from the disk; e.g., the first 512b block: https://gist.github.com/jclulow/133070a40883c9fca6ca3f41d22ee370
[19:58:02] <richlowe> when it did this to me, yes, it needed the boot blocks installed.
[19:58:05] <richlowe> because they... moved?
[19:58:07] <richlowe> to the mbr?
[19:58:09] <richlowe> something like that.
[19:58:24] <LeftWing> Does `onu` not do that?
[19:59:17] <tsoome> it should
[19:59:24] <tsoome> also amount of memory?
[19:59:34] <LeftWing> 8GB
[19:59:36] <richlowe> LeftWing: it should, but there's been a couple of times it's misfired.
[19:59:39] <LeftWing> 4 cores
[19:59:41] <richlowe> that's why I asked how old the system was previously.
[19:59:53] <tsoome> afk, need to walk the dog:D
[20:01:25] <LeftWing> richlowe: So I created it for Jerry on 2019-01-29T23:22:01.347Z using a Hipster ISO, and with a full "pkg update -v" and reboot afterwards
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[20:06:46] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10323 cpcgen_parse_model() gets value check wrong -- John Levon <john.levon at joyent dot com>
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[20:25:32] <tsoome> LeftWing: and still having problems?
[20:27:14] <richlowe> it's LeftWing, you'll have to be more specific :)
[20:27:43] <jimklimov1> riiight... where's RightWing?
[20:34:38] <tsoome> ok, so, the latitude 7370 laptop, in some cases (like using format or fdisk) the kb8042 does not interrupt on keyrelease - the interrupt handler is not called. sometimes it does recover, sometimes not. what could be the reason?
[20:35:12] <jimklimov1> so the key sticks and keeps printing?
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[20:35:23] <jimklimov1> does it recover if you press it again?
[20:35:26] <tsoome> yep, the autorepeat does kick in
[20:35:28] <jimklimov1> same key or different?
[20:35:44] <tsoome> no, keypresses does not seem to affect it
[20:36:37] <tsoome> usually seen on enter - like format -> p and it will fire
[20:36:44] <jimklimov1> not that I know the reason, but I saw the behavior a lot with virtual keyboards (Java KVM's, VMWare consoles, etc.) and figured it had to do with some latencies and so missed events
[20:36:55] <jimklimov1> but don't remember seeing it on physical hardware
[20:37:16] <jimklimov1> usually a keypress helped however
[20:37:27] <jimklimov1> it had an event that the key was released
[20:37:28] <tsoome> yea thats like missed event
[20:37:53] <tsoome> but in this case the keypress does not do
[20:38:42] <tsoome> I did try to add timeout handler to check for key, but this did not help
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[20:42:01] <tsoome> this reminds me - the software autorepeat seems to be way too fast and should probably have finite duration:D
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[20:58:16] <jimklimov1> yeah, a few hundred ENTERs should be enough ;)
[21:03:32] <alanc> it's always great when software autorepeat rate is faster than beep rate, so once a key gets stuck down long enough, beeps are queued to repeat long after the key is released
[21:03:54] <jimklimov1> peep that too :)
[21:04:07] <tsoome> :D
[21:05:29] <jimklimov1> colleagues at work frowned when I was trying to install OI on the laptop, because for many line-edit events the LiveCD env peeped a warning... loudly... with no way found quickly to disable it. IIRC using the beeper, so headphone plugged in did not cut it.
[21:05:54] <tsoome> kbd -b console 0 will disable it
[21:06:04] <tsoome> well, technically, silence it.
[21:06:13] <jimklimov1> ok, thanks, nice to know it is possible :)
[21:06:26] <bdha> Last gig I installed Windows on a laptop and the installer/Cortana was SUPER LOUD and it took me a minute to get it to shut up. Open office plans are so fun.
[21:06:37] <tsoome> we do not have option to trigger beep_off()
[21:07:07] <tsoome> it is easy to add (as always)
[21:07:29] <tsoome> and fun thing is that kbd -r does basically notjing:D
[21:07:34] <tsoome> nothing*
[21:08:11] <tsoome> because kb8042 does not have ioctl for keyboard reset:D
[21:08:33] <tsoome> maybe usb has…
[21:09:37] <tsoome> um, when [q]timeout does fire, this timeout callback is gone and does not need to be [q]untimeout?
[21:09:49] <tsoome> to be unset with*
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[21:20:23] <richlowe> alanc: I've power cycled machines to get out of that
[21:20:42] <richlowe> "hardware issue" is _technically_ true
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[21:39:56] <tsoome> ok, setting limit on repeat count does stop the spam
[21:40:00] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10515 libtopo's XML serialization code is broken and incomplete -- Rob Johnston <rob.johnston at joyent dot com>
[21:40:21] <jlevon> tsoome: interesting...
[21:40:35] <tsoome> but we still do get the spam.
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[22:31:16] <rmustacc> tsoome: Can't speak for qtimeout(9F), but yes, when timeout(9F) fires, that's it. Nothing else will fire again and you do not need to call untimeout().
[22:32:28] <rmustacc> tsoome: A lot of folks use timeout(9F) as a periodic thing where they then will call timeout(9F) again unless some flag was set. This is probably because there wasn't something like ddi_periodic_add(9F) for a while (and it didn't work particularly well either).
[22:33:08] <tsoome> yep. thats what does happen in kbtrans
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[23:50:29] <LeftWing> tsoome: What do you usually expect the stage2_lba to be?
[23:52:37] <LeftWing> That is... the "stage2_sector" value written by installboot into the MBR
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