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[00:09:26] <andyf> LeftWing - the patch for the wsdiff locale problem should be straightforward, at least there are a couple of file opens in there that are missing the errors argument. I'm not sure about the speed (but I've just started one using python3 so see how long it takes)
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[00:13:20] <LeftWing> andyf: Cool! To be clear, I'm not blaming you for the slowness. Python can be notoriously hard to make fast.
[00:13:34] <LeftWing> (I just don't recall us doing anything else to wsdiff recently)
[00:13:56] <andyf> It could certainly by fault. I never routinely ran it before so I don't have a feel for how fast it should be
[00:14:04] <andyf> er, "be my fault"
[00:15:57] <richlowe> could also not be wsdiff at fault at all.
[00:20:35] <andyf> I'll do some bisecting and test tomorrow, getting late here
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[00:52:44] <phox> hey, was looking for a path for this... anyone here have a reasonable amount of ownership over things in and around the kernel NFS daemon?
[00:53:43] <phox> I actually used to work for Nexenta, isolated some performance low-hanging-fruit, never had time to fix the obvious bass-ackwardsness before I left, and now I have no stake in that but I would like to see the project thrive so was hoping to unload that in the direction of someone who cares and has cycles to do so :)
[00:55:12] <richlowe> best I can think is filing bugs on bugs.illumos.org
[00:55:45] <rmustacc> Yeah, if you can write up detailed bugs there, other folks might pick it up. Not sure if there's any one individual.
[00:55:46] <phox> k. might get around to that. would rather try to get this handed off in one shot than having to follow up with discussion, as I honestly don't have cycles to drive it... I work somewhere else and have 18mo twins now so... ;)
[00:56:33] <phox> alright fair. I will probably state in the bug that I have no actual stake in this other than not wanting to analysis to go down the drain, and don't have cycles for follow-up. the problem and benefit is pretty clear, the NFS DRC is dumb and doesn't scale and fixing that is cheeeeep :)
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[01:02:03] <rmustacc> phox: FWIW, I think if you write it up, there's no expectation that you have to follow up, though we'd obviously welcome it.
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[01:02:25] <rmustacc> But totally understandable. Thanks for even just reaching out and asking.
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[01:20:08] <phox> the original issue made me grumpy, like O(n) stuff that should be O(1), and startup and allocation overhead that trickles out after initialization...
[01:20:21] <phox> there's also the race between ZFS and FMA but I won't even get into that
[01:20:46] <phox> that one is excusable because it's actually hard to design, unlike using a sane ADT for something :)
[01:21:04] <phox> anywho yeah thanks for the input I will backlog dumping a fairly clear bug on that one and hoping it goes somewhere
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[01:29:42] <richlowe> LeftWing: so, that took 3 hours
[01:29:51] <richlowe> which is very definitely more than "a bit longer"
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[06:25:41] <tsoome> jlevon: thats the sad thing the efi vendor(s) are allowed to leave pages out of memmap….
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[08:14:26] <andyf> My wsdiff runs overnight took 1h with python3 and 2h40m with python2.
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[11:27:19] <jlevon> tsoome: they really should have specified EFI a lot tighter than they did...
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[13:05:12] <andyf> richlowe, LeftWing - are you able to try a wsdiff patch?
[13:05:15] <andyf> https://github.com/omniosorg/illumos-omnios/commit/e2c6c3704a73351
[13:06:31] <andyf> it seems that subprocess.Popen() is much much slower than commands.getoutput()
[13:06:45] <andyf> But the commands module is deprecated.
[13:08:23] <jperkin> ptribble: did you manage to compiler openjdk11 with an older solstudio, or have you somehow worked around solstudio 12.6 requiring SUNW_1.22.7 and other things we don't have?
[13:09:21] <ptribble> jdk11 (and jdk12) build with studio 12.4
[13:09:58] <jperkin> k, thanks
[13:10:01] <ptribble> it's the supported one for 11, and is accepted for 12
[13:14:01] <ptribble> We do have SUNW_1.22.7 now, as both Studio and Vbox needed it
[13:14:21] <jperkin> ok, so that one will be due to me building on an older platform
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[13:41:38] <jlevon> andyf: weird, any idea yet of why the difference?
[13:43:12] <ptribble> jperkin: are you coming up to pkgsrcCon in Cambridge?
[13:43:23] <jperkin> I'll be there on the saturday
[13:46:17] <ptribble> Great!
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[14:49:30] <neirac> I'm trying to use this image to create a bhyve vm http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/VM-IMAGES/11.2-RELEASE/amd64/Latest/FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64.raw.xz. Maybe I'm missing something. I'm doing this: xz -d FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64.raw.xz ; zfs create -V 30G rpool/b0 ; dd if=FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64.raw of=/rpool/b0; but when trying to boot it fails just returns to the bhyve console.
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[15:14:27] <denk> neirac: try to do dd to /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/b0 and boot it once again
[15:17:41] <neirac> denk thanks!
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[15:52:33] <andyf> jlevon not yet although there are plenty of reports of 'subprocess' being much slower than 'commands'
[15:52:49] <andyf> The latest patch that seems to fix python2 at least is https://github.com/citrus-it/illumos-omnios/commit/0a57d875dc2ae49cfca
[15:52:49] <jlevon> interesting.
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[16:01:48] <neirac> denk I tried writing to /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/b0 but still does not boot
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[16:51:13] <tsoome> yarr.
[16:52:56] <tsoome> I need a bit help with testing bios loader binary at: http://148.52.235.80.sta.estpak.ee/loader you may want to save it on different name, press space at early spinner, and enter that name. if it does not crash, check “framebuffer get” output from ok prompt and mail me MTRR info and if it was not set by bios, does the display feel faster..
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[17:58:46] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 10505 elfexec() should keep to unsigned types when processing PT_DYNAMIC -- Cody Peter Mello <cody.mello at joyent dot com>
[18:06:28] <rmustacc> tsoome: If you mail Rob Johnston, he might be able to do some additional testing.
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[19:24:44] <alanc> so who is going to be integrating ghidra with mdb?
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[19:27:02] <LeftWing> alanc: Is that the thing that hangs out a network port through which you can arrange to execute code?
[19:27:24] <richlowe> the big reverse engineering thing I've wanted in mdb is the splitting the asm into a graph.
[19:27:33] <richlowe> which is a bit difficult on a tty
[19:27:37] <richlowe> tough I'm sure LeftWing has ideas
[19:29:22] <LeftWing> I am bereft!
[19:29:53] <igork> richlowe: serial console with mdb?
[19:30:39] <LeftWing> fish with a bicycle
[19:31:01] <jlevon> even an indication as to whether that's a forward or backward jump would be nice :P
[19:31:10] <LeftWing> jlevon: Indeed!
[19:31:28] <jlevon> but, we could label targets as [A-Za-z] or whatever and at least have that many annotations
[19:31:41] <jlevon> while only taking up two or so extra chars in ::dis
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[19:32:22] <LeftWing> I think that'd be pretty cool
[19:32:25] <richlowe> yes.
[19:32:32] <LeftWing> It'd be neat to give names to places we load and store from
[19:32:52] <richlowe> I suspect all of this is us being weird, and we'd get the most _actual_ benefit from an ::addr2line though :)
[19:32:59] <LeftWing> (at least, for places plausibly close to the frame)
[19:33:05] <alanc> LeftWing: only if you run it in debugging mode, but yes
[19:34:41] <richlowe> alanc: never let reality get in the way of laughing at "infosec professionals"
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[19:37:38] <alanc> certainly has stopped everyone and their dog from commenting on https://github.com/NationalSecurityAgency/ghidra/issues/6
[19:41:57] <LeftWing> There is something to be said for having a bug tracker which doesn't allow people to comment without first establishing an identity with the project.
[19:42:40] <jeffpc> you mean that github isn't the panacea we've been promissed?
[19:42:53] <rzezeski> alanc: The only reasonable solution is to remove your computer from all networks and bury it under 8 feet of cement. Obviously.
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[19:43:41] <alanc> rzezeski: yes, well, after yet another batch of CPU security bug papers this week, I'm already contemplating that
[19:43:56] <rzezeski> The farm beckons us all.
[19:45:32] <alanc> "Hey! You got your Spectre in my Rowhammer!"
[19:46:02] <rzezeski> heh, I think I know which one you are talking about
[19:46:05] <rmustacc> The additional decoding of the va->pa from that was a bit distessing.
[19:46:48] <alanc> SPOILER was Monday's, today's is http://nebelwelt.net/blog/20190306-SMoTherSpectre.html
[19:47:00] <rzezeski> oh jeebus
[19:47:03] <rmustacc> What I've heard from folks is it's another v2 variant.
[19:47:05] <rzezeski> I didn't see today's
[19:47:31] <rmustacc> That in theory existing stuff should defeat. But as always, review for oneself and don't trust heresay.
[19:48:48] <alanc> (should say today's wasn't rowhammer related like spoiler, just yet another disclosure - seem to be a rash of pre-prints coming out now that the Usenix Security submission deadline has passed)
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[21:50:44] <tsoome> rmustacc: ok cool:)
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