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[11:23:06] <andyf> jlevon - nice blog post, thanks :)
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[11:26:05] <andyf> Between that and Alex's, I have half an idea what's going on with this kpti stuff.
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[11:58:44] <jlevon> andyf: thanks!
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[12:03:38] <andyf> jlevon - do you have an easy way for me to check if a box is using PCID at all, other than checking bits in x86_featureset
[12:03:56] <andyf> arekinath did post an mdb pipeline the other day which showed cr3 values but I can't find it now
[12:06:58] <jlevon> echo "cpus::print cpu_t cpu_m.mcpu_kpti.kf_user_cr3" | mdb -k
[12:06:58] <jlevon> cpu_m.mcpu_kpti.kf_user_cr3 = 0x80000001ef78b001
[12:07:29] <andyf> Great, thanks cpu_m.mcpu_kpti.kf_user_cr3 = 0x21ff83000
[12:07:36] <andyf> but this is inside KVM so no surprise there
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[13:59:33] <igork> jlevon: hi, i have checked 2 my branches - kpti and kpti2 - and differences in your commit to kpti-squash with OS-6546
[14:00:18] <igork> i can try revert it on my kpti2 branch and recheck with build again - to be sure i have no missed something
[14:00:22] <igork> just FYI
[14:00:48] <jlevon> have you not tried alex's images?
[14:01:18] <igork> not yet - just received link only today - and i try to work with my merges
[14:01:52] <igork> also - will be better to know list to codebase for link https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/184463/2018/02/sort/time_rev/page/1/entry/9:89/20180222211741:B7C1D0C4-183F-11E8-AE7E-D542308E761E/
[14:02:12] <igork> it is very hard to work with binaries without points to sources tree
[14:02:34] <jlevon> I can't speak for alex but believe that is kpti-squash
[14:02:36] <igork> just image - not helps here
[14:03:02] <igork> i'd like to have confirmation about it - it contain 2 latest commits
[14:03:24] <igork> because email has date = Feb-22
[14:03:29] <igork> but commits - Feb-23
[14:03:49] <igork> how it can be possible to send email before commits?
[14:04:14] <jlevon> ok. alex is on holiday so can't answer.
[14:04:54] <igork> if you provide links to images - please provide links to sources what was based - it can helps wth investigations of issues with merges
[14:05:02] <igork> just proposal
[14:14:11] <jollyd> jlevon: andyf identified a few commits needed on illumos-omnios for the kpti patchset to apply cleanly and there are more dependency against vanilla illumos-gate (as the delta is bigger). I am checking that to prepare OI testing images.
[14:15:05] <jlevon> jollyd: is there a list? I'm curious.
[14:15:17] <jollyd> jlevon: other toic, alp_ committed the dependency issue that you reported in build-essential so that building in zone should not require more than build-essential.
[14:15:28] <andyf> jlevon - I'll forward you the email I sent to rm
[14:16:00] <jlevon> thanks
[14:16:08] <jlevon> jollyd: that's great.
[14:16:09] <jollyd> andyf: I've been too slow :)
[14:16:24] <jlevon> thanks alp_
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[14:18:35] <andyf> jlevon - let me know if arrives - guessed the email address
[14:20:49] <jlevon> need john.levon at joyent dot com
[14:21:21] <andyf> sent
[14:21:46] <jlevon> ta
[14:21:59] <andyf> It has to get all the way over the pennines...
[14:24:54] <jlevon> the snow is treacherous
[14:25:46] <jperkin> disappointing lack of snow in rh1 :/
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[14:26:18] <andyf> It can snow all it wants once I get back along the M62
[14:26:29] <jlevon> I'll check with rm on those deps.
[14:26:36] <jlevon> at least three of them are my fault
[14:26:46] <jlevon> I presume you want them in illumos master?
[14:27:03] <andyf> Some are needed - the oldest one may not be but I wasn't going to start resolving conflicts in the assembly language for this round of testing
[14:27:39] <jlevon> I don't think now's the right time to pull the FEM one.
[14:27:42] <andyf> It's probably best to get them upstreamed, yes.
[14:28:05] <jlevon> you can likely just ignore the patch failures for the splitstack stuff
[14:28:09] <andyf> yes the FEM one was the one I wasn't sure about
[14:28:32] <andyf> but we've taken it for the purposes of our kpti testing branch
[14:28:38] <jlevon> understood
[14:28:56] <jlevon> if rm hasn't I will look at porting the others over
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[14:29:37] <jlevon> sorry about that, I split out some changes to reduce the kpti delta
[14:29:58] <jlevon> also FYI we found a PCID bug yesterday, working on the fix.
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[14:33:23] <andyf> No problem, they were easy enough to find. Re: bug, I haven't found a way to break it yet
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[14:35:43] <andyf> and fwiw, I like the way Joyent are breaking out the commits and getting supporting stuff through into master early; both with this and bhyve. It's so much easier to keep track and understand the changes.
[14:36:41] <jlevon> bhyve is especially painful because it's a giant import then a whole bunch of stuff on top
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[14:41:30] <jlevon> andyf: were you just missing richlowe's kdi_idt change?
[14:43:05] <andyf> How do you mean?
[14:43:38] <jlevon> is that cset not in upstream illumos master?
[14:44:06] <andyf> I didn't check but it was missing from omnios, will look now
[14:45:06] <andyf> https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/blob/master/usr/src/uts/intel/kdi/kdi_idt.c#L220
[14:45:09] <andyf> no, it's not in gate
[14:45:29] <jlevon> hmm
[14:45:35] <jlevon> indede
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[14:55:20] <andyf> and having said that I can't break kpti+pcid, I just had a weird illumos build failure
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[15:03:22] <jlevon> andyf: details?
[15:04:46] <andyf> dmake: Warning: Command failed for target `sysheaders'
[15:04:54] <andyf> set off another build and it worked fine
[15:05:00] <andyf> can't be sure it's pcid related
[15:05:15] <jlevon> would expect some previous error?
[15:06:06] <andyf> nawk: cannot execute [Exec format error]
[15:06:24] <igork> fantastic :)
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[15:06:56] <jlevon> yuck
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[16:14:25] <andyf> memtest86 says that test machine has a bad DIMM... so could well have been that
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[16:20:08] <jlevon> hmm
[16:20:56] <andyf> No? it's an old PC I had in the loft, not even ECC unfortunately
[16:22:45] <jlevon> well there's no doubt bad DIMMs can cause crazy stuff
[16:23:35] <igork> i remember badram feature on linux kernel - where you can specify RAM addresses block for exclude
[16:24:03] <igork> it was not internal feature - external patch
[16:24:45] <igork> but it was possible to use 16MB ram module with broken one first chip
[16:25:13] <igork> and yes - it was not one ram module on host ;)
[16:29:07] <igork> https://cl.ly/1g2B1Y3Q3N3A - just FYI - if you are interested in zfs performance with parallel write + resilvering && parallel local write + scrub
[16:29:25] <igork> over 10gig network
[16:33:47] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9124 check_rtime fails with gcc-6-compiled world -- Alexander Pyhalov <apyhalov at gmail dot com>
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[16:45:17] <richlowe> jlevon: Seems unlikely to be me?
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[17:24:16] <igork> jlevon: i have found my missmerge - https://bitbucket.org/dilos/dilos-illumos/commits/all
[17:24:35] <igork> new build loaded and working
[17:24:46] <jlevon> hah, yeah, that wouldn't go well!
[17:25:18] <igork> but - it has no panic on boot what was before
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[17:25:28] <igork> i'm ready for next update
[17:25:47] <igork> from branch kpty-squash
[17:25:57] <igork> kpti-squash
[17:26:14] <richlowe> jlevon: p. sure I've done nothing of value, mis-completed rmustacc or rzezeski?
[17:26:15] <richlowe> :)
[17:26:43] <igork> jlevon: just wanted confirm to you my investigation
[17:26:44] <jlevon> richlowe: no, it's you from 2011
[17:26:57] <jlevon> igork: OK. I just pushed a couple of pcid fixes to that branch
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[17:27:10] <igork> kpti-squash ?
[17:27:10] <jlevon> richlowe: just a divergence that means kpti isn't a clean apply
[17:27:14] <jlevon> yes
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[17:27:21] <igork> jlevon: thanks for update
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[17:28:49] <richlowe> jlevon: crikey.
[17:29:52] <jlevon> if you must fiddle in strange files...
[17:30:16] <igork> jlevon: 3 new commits ?
[17:30:34] <jlevon> yes
[17:30:37] <igork> thanks
[17:31:23] <richlowe> arekinath: you're not expecting me to poke more at retpoline soon, are you?
[17:31:38] <richlowe> arekinath: 'cos I have it low on the list since it depends on tsoome for gcc7 and everything.
[17:35:28] <andyf> Debian back-ported retpoline to gcc 6, so it might not even have to wait for 7
[17:36:06] <igork> andyf: here you can see it ?
[17:36:10] <igork> where
[17:37:23] <andyf> http://www.security-database.com/detail.php?alert=DSA-4121
[17:37:33] <igork> thanks
[17:37:53] <andyf> that's the security bulletin anyway, not sure where the patch is
[17:37:59] <igork> need a try to bring it to dilos
[17:38:25] <igork> i hope i know how to found it
[17:38:33] <igork> in userland repo
[17:41:11] <andyf> https://sources.debian.org/src/gcc-6/6.3.0-18/
[17:41:13] <richlowe> andyf: Well, tsoome was wanting 7 over 6 for other reasons
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[17:42:00] <andyf> I'm just thinking about timelines - gate will probably be gcc6 clean first
[17:42:12] <richlowe> but largely untested with it.
[17:42:14] <igork> andyf: i'm using this mainstream: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gcc-6
[17:42:16] <tsoome> at the moment it depends on andy_js :)
[17:42:26] <richlowe> whereas I've been working on/toward 7, 'cos that's what tsoome asked for
[17:42:33] <richlowe> I expect anything done for 7 needs also to be done for 6 though
[17:42:39] <richlowe> it's just a matter of knowing 7 is (mostly) ok
[17:42:52] <tsoome> of course 7 needs the same cleanups from 6
[17:43:07] <richlowe> tsoome: I meant as far as the fix to CTF, and the new cw
[17:43:09] <andyf> igork - you should be ok then as it's 6.3.0-18 where they added the retpoline flags
[17:43:12] <richlowe> tsoome: and all that.
[17:43:18] <tsoome> yea
[17:43:26] <richlowe> tsoome: and the patch to make retpoline not assume telepathy.
[17:43:32] <richlowe> (or the newer binutils)
[17:43:36] <tsoome> :D
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[17:43:45] <igork> andyf: yeah ... i have upgraded to 6.4 - will see how to import patch from 6.3
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[17:45:10] <richlowe> tsoome: did you take the changes I made to your branch back to 6 too?
[17:45:14] <igork> richlowe: have you looked to updated ctf tools on smartos?
[17:45:18] <richlowe> tsoome: if so, you're free to upstream whatever.
[17:45:25] <richlowe> no, because nobody uses them
[17:45:42] <richlowe> I imagine either it won't need the fix, or the fix will be equally easy to apply though.
[17:45:42] <igork> richlowe: smartos use
[17:46:01] <tsoome> I havent yet, I still have long list of simple ut extremely boring updates:D
[17:46:09] <tsoome> s/ut/but/
[17:46:17] <richlowe> tsoome: well, if you want to go for 6 let me know, and I'll switch branches for a bit :)
[17:46:28] <richlowe> I'm just holding doors open, you get to do all the work :)
[17:46:29] <andy_js> tsoome: I have a build log for 8659
[17:46:37] <andy_js> I’ll RTI that shortly.
[17:46:41] <tsoome> andy_js: cool:)
[17:46:53] <andy_js> There’s quite a bit of lint noise though.
[17:46:57] <andy_js> I don’t know what that’s about.
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[17:47:04] <richlowe> andy_js: show me?
[17:47:11] <andy_js> Sure. One sec.
[17:47:50] <richlowe> it's probably just lint being crap.
[17:48:03] <tsoome> as soon as we have gcc6 at least as shadow compiler, we can start moving to drop lint
[17:48:36] <andyf> That will be nice.. we still hit problems because (AIUI) not everyone is using the same version even now
[17:48:48] <tsoome> yes
[17:49:10] <andy_js> richlowe: I goes on and on: https://pastebin.com/KgxhKQ2z
[17:49:22] <andy_js> This is just a sample.
[17:49:36] <richlowe> andy_js: you've botched your env file such that it's not finding the lint.h from lint, but the one of ours.
[17:49:48] <andy_js> OK.
[17:49:51] <richlowe> andy_js: look in nightly log for the -I added to lint, that tries to be under .../SUNWspro/
[17:49:59] <richlowe> whatever you're passing, it's wrong, find where you're setting that, fix it
[17:50:01] <richlowe> (I forgot all the variables)
[17:50:12] <andyf> tsoome - will be able to drop the lint libraries too?
[17:50:42] <andy_js> This had to set this:
[17:50:42] <andy_js> export SPRO_ROOT='/opt'
[17:50:57] <andy_js> to get a build
[17:51:04] <andy_js> What’s the correct value?
[17:51:10] <richlowe> doubtful, but it depends what's in /opt
[17:51:11] <andy_js> This is OmniOSce.
[17:51:37] <andyf> export SPRO_ROOT='/opt/sunstudio12.1'
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[17:52:11] <andyf> There's a sample .env file at /opt/onbld/env/omnios-illumos-gate
[17:52:28] <richlowe> Hrm, though the line numbers don't line up with what I'd think if I were right
[17:52:30] <richlowe> but everything else does.
[17:52:56] <richlowe> usually, that problem is finding the dummy system note.h, so NOTE() doesn't tell lint anything, and all the gagged warnings appear.
[17:53:00] <andy_js> OK I’ll see how that goes.
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[17:53:56] <richlowe> if lint bites you hard and regularly, it's likely that. if you made a change and lint bit you, it's almost always largefile.
[17:54:06] <richlowe> which libc's lint.h works around/shows you how to work around.
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[17:58:23] <igork> jlevon: i have new build with your updates - it's loaded to vmware vm as well
[17:59:00] <igork> jlevon: https://bitbucket.org/dilos/dilos-illumos/commits/all
[17:59:12] <igork> jlevon: i have cherry-pick 3 commits
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[18:03:56] <richlowe> jlevon: are you guys eager enough for retpoline that tsoome should consider a full switch to 6, rather than using it as a shadow to help move to 7?
[18:04:32] <jlevon> richlowe: I haven't discussed it / don't know
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[18:06:06] <tsoome> andyf: I imagine, eventually sure.
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[18:28:33] <andy_js> That fixed the lint noise.
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[18:44:48] <richlowe> andy_js: awesome
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[19:29:08] <arekinath> richlowe: it's fine. I'm out on a long-planned family holiday for a bit anyway :)
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[19:38:25] <Smithx10> arekinath: i saw the PR in cr.joyent.us
[19:38:28] <Smithx10> Awesome job mate!
[19:38:58] <Smithx10> lol, enjoy that Vacation :P
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[20:15:54] <igork> https://apt2.dilos.org/dilos/isos/dilos-core-18-02-27_22-13-2.0.1.13-20180227-4-0+kpti2-DEBUG.iso
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[20:16:13] <igork> jlevon: ^^^ it is iso contain your latest updates
[20:16:24] <igork> from https://github.com/rmustacc/illumos-gate/commits/kpti-squash
[20:16:51] <igork> https://bitbucket.org/dilos/dilos-illumos/commits/all - branch kpti2
[20:16:55] <Agnar> hey guys, so I got my thinkpad x230 with a intel 4000 gfx in it, and just get a grey/blurred screen: https://paste.ec/paste/m1f++Sus#iNAj5Dk4GahGx+dqwiftTC6yU+PiGhsXlie+Hp4sZng - but the wiki says actually "basic testing done". any hints?
[20:17:07] <igork> cherry-pick from https://github.com/rmustacc/illumos-gate/commits/kpti-squash
[20:17:34] <igork> maybe you know - how to try to test it?
[20:17:46] <igork> some mdb hints?
[20:17:57] <jlevon_> what do you mean by mdb?
[20:18:20] <igork> you provided some commands to andyf
[20:18:49] <igork> root@dilos-init11:~# echo "cpus::print cpu_t cpu_m.mcpu_kpti.kf_user_cr3" | mdb -k
[20:18:49] <igork> cpu_m.mcpu_kpti.kf_user_cr3 = 0x13de8b000
[20:18:54] <igork> it is on vmware
[20:19:09] <igork> is it ok ?
[20:19:42] <jlevon_> yes, but looks like you don't have pcid
[20:19:50] <jlevon_> what is your h/w version in vmware settings
[20:20:03] <igork> ok, i'll try to load build on real hw tomorrow
[20:20:10] <jlevon_> btw, vmware - it turns out - is not a very good way to test this stuff. lots of things that only occurred on real h/w
[20:20:17] <igork> i have vmware 6.5 esxi
[20:20:23] <igork> on dual xeon
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[20:20:47] <igork> ok, i'll have some news tomorrow
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[20:37:34] <Agnar> oh, I'm hitting https://www.illumos.org/issues/8049
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[20:56:30] <igork> jlevon_"are we interested in debug build testing with kpti changes or non-debug?
[20:56:57] <igork> i try to plan some tomorrow activities with it
[20:57:16] <igork> jlevon_: ^^^
[20:57:31] <igork> or no differences
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[21:01:49] <jlevon_> igork: both ideally
[21:01:59] <igork> ok, i'll try
[21:02:08] <igork> i have some 1U servers in my pool
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[21:02:18] <igork> with xeon cpu
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[21:02:39] <jlevon_> perf testing would be interesting.
[21:02:48] <igork> perf?
[21:03:10] <igork> some recommended tools?
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[21:04:25] <jlevon_> whatever you have that you care about its performance?
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[21:04:52] <igork> ok, i'll take a look what i can test
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[22:35:53] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9200 tpmadm says "restart Solaris" -- Andy Fiddaman <omnios at citrus-it dot co.uk>
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