February 12, 2018 
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ZZZzzz…)[07:20:44] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~IceChat9@pool-108-52-4-148.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: It's a dud! It's a dud! It's a du...)[07:37:56] <tsoome> LeftWing: nop. I only have used fbsd itself and with userboot module[07:39:28] <LeftWing> OK[07:41:22] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[07:47:53] <tsoome> why, is there anything up?[08:00:27] <LeftWing> So we're working on a bhyve port, and I rejiggered an existing OpenIndiana guest (as I recall, using loader) to start with bhyve instead[08:00:40] <LeftWing> It doesn't appear to start up at all[08:01:04] <LeftWing> I'm pretty sure I had it configured to use ttya, etc, but there's no output and it doesn't boot even if I leave it for a long time[08:01:39] <LeftWing> It might also be broken on a FreeBSD bhyve host. I'll have to dig in.[08:01:55] <LeftWing> SmartOS boots fine, but we're still using grub.[08:04:24] <Smithx10> LeftWing: can you boot linux on bhyve??[08:05:14] <LeftWing> I gather some of my colleagues have, yes[08:06:08] <Smithx10> Exciting :P[08:06:24] <LeftWing> It is![08:06:57] <Smithx10> LeftWing: I think people are going to tear up when live migration comes out :P[08:07:10] <LeftWing> I'm not sure that we care about that out of the gate[08:07:14] <Smithx10> hahahaha[08:07:28] <Smithx10> 1 day :P[08:07:45] *** p7mo <p7mo!~pmo@ricasa01.informatik.uni-bremen.de> has joined #illumos[08:09:04] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@5.79.84.73> has joined #illumos[08:11:33] <Smithx10> LeftWing: I think the best part is that Joyent can actually build on top of Bhyve without battling upstreaming to linux, or maintain some huge fork[08:12:03] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@0d95-0d34-180a-2d0f-a180-80f3-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[08:12:53] <LeftWing> Yes, I suspect we'll be able to have a much more productive working relationship with the FreeBSD folks.[08:13:32] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[08:13:36] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:17:03] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@5.79.84.73> has quit IRC (Quit: amrfrsh)[08:30:24] *** perniciouscaffei <perniciouscaffei!~Perniciou@71-35-101-166.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[08:33:59] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@213.55.176.245> has joined #illumos[08:35:48] *** deejam <deejam!~deejam@bouncer.phealy.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:35:48] *** toasterson1 <toasterson1!~toast@213.55.176.245> has joined #illumos[08:38:37] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@213.55.176.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:39:29] *** deejam <deejam!~deejam@bouncer.phealy.com> has joined #illumos[08:43:59] *** _Tenchi_ <_Tenchi_!~phil@207-255-68-080-dhcp.aoo.pa.atlanticbb.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[08:45:12] *** toasterson_ <toasterson_!~toast@85.195.192.69> has joined #illumos[08:47:41] *** toasterson1 <toasterson1!~toast@213.55.176.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:07:30] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[09:10:07] *** Nerakhon <Nerakhon!~janpaul@2001:4878:8261:10:c904:f6f7:7864:e775> has joined #illumos[09:32:35] *** jubal <jubal!~jubal@24.237.5.205> has quit IRC (Quit: jubal)[09:35:03] <alp_> yurip: now when we have sane grep , perhaps we should get rid of outdated awk and just use GNU one :)[09:37:56] *** ruse39 <ruse39!~russiane3@0894661126.static.corbina.ru> has joined #illumos[09:42:19] <LeftWing> I feel like I've said this a lot, but we chucked out "oawk", and then replaced "awk" with "nawk" in SmartOS and it's been good. melloc has some updates for "nawk" in the pipe, and a test suite.[09:42:43] <LeftWing> gawk is kind of whacky, frankly[09:43:09] <jperkin> yeh and we obviously use nawk across pkgsrc[09:44:01] <igork> what issue with gawk?[09:44:31] <alp_> yes, what issues with gawk?[09:44:46] <LeftWing> It has all kinds of nonsense in it that don't really belong in there.[09:44:49] <alp_> (besides it's being the external dependency)[09:45:09] <igork> userland builds and apps are use it a lot[09:45:22] <LeftWing> It can, for instance, make TCP connections[09:45:47] <igork> what version of gawk?[09:45:56] <alp_> but you can so something like awk -vFPAT='([^ \t]*)|("[^"]+")|(\\[[^\\]]+\\])' .... :)[09:45:59] <alp_> this is awsome[09:46:06] <LeftWing> It's... something[09:46:38] <igork> we are depend on userland apps[09:46:59] <igork> and they unhappy with nawk in some places[09:47:01] <LeftWing> Obviously you can run whatever you want on your computer.[09:47:11] <igork> haha :)[09:47:28] <LeftWing> I think we're likely, in the gate, to consolidate on an updated nawk[09:47:29] <igork> try to port userland apps[09:47:41] <LeftWing> jperkin works on quite a lot of ported applications[09:47:41] <alp_> what about restricting a set of code permitted in awk? and use the one, which supports this set?[09:47:52] <jperkin> 30 packages require gawk in pkgsrc according to git grep[09:48:02] <igork> hehe :)[09:48:07] <LeftWing> That's not a lot out of 15000[09:48:37] <jperkin> 20000[09:48:42] <LeftWing> There you go![09:49:43] <jperkin> I should say that's a maximum of 30, it's likely some of them had gawk added as a dependency a long time ago and is no longer required[09:49:49] <LeftWing> Right.[09:49:54] <jperkin> but it's harder to test a negative[09:50:14] <LeftWing> igork: You should just adopt pkgsrc.[09:50:22] <igork> also - you have to build gawk :)[09:50:24] <LeftWing> All the porting is already done.[09:50:28] <igork> and use it[09:50:52] <alp_> :)))[09:51:18] <igork> i can use one version of awk = gawk on my env :)[09:51:27] <igork> but you have to use several :)[09:51:42] <alp_> jperkin: btw, what gcc are you using for pkgsrc?[09:51:49] <LeftWing> Well, at the risk of being a broken record, we're almost certainly going to consolidate on just nawk in the gate.[09:52:15] <alp_> LeftWing: this seems not bad. We'll see how it handles our scripts :)[09:52:22] <igork> what are risks with gawk in gate? :)[09:52:32] <alp_> why do you need it in gate?[09:52:35] <LeftWing> The risks are that I'd set fire to the gate.[09:52:47] <igork> really?[09:52:58] <jperkin> alp_: for release builds we're still on gcc-4.9, for daily bulk builds we're using gcc-7.3.0, and for clang development builds we're using clang-6.0.0 pre-release[09:53:07] <alp_> cool.[09:53:14] <LeftWing> igork: I know you've never seen a GNU tool you didn't like, but that isn't a universally held position.[09:53:16] <alp_> We've just switched to gcc-6[09:53:58] <alp_> jollyd seems to have some work until we move on to gcc-7[09:55:00] <igork> LeftWing: more universe - try to build gate outside illumos env by cross build tools[09:55:13] <LeftWing> That's emphatically not a goal.[09:56:03] <alp_> if cross-building for sparc would be possible, there were no excuse for breaking it ;)[09:56:13] <igork> :)[09:56:15] <LeftWing> Cross compilation is fine, though it will be a lot of work to get right. But that would just be for different architectures; e.g., we might be able to cross compile SPARC bits on a considerably more useful x86 machine.[09:56:39] <LeftWing> alp_: You'd still need to convince some poor sap to own a SPARC machine and to boot the bits.[09:56:40] <igork> it can't be possible with SPARC - gcc4 + SUN AS bootstrap[09:56:57] <LeftWing> I mean, it obviously _can_ be possible. It's just software.[09:57:31] <igork> if you have SUN AS sparc version on intel :)[09:57:42] <igork> they are different[09:57:51] <LeftWing> I understand, but if we cared enough we could fix that.[09:58:09] <igork> for cross sparc build - have to update gate to use gcc + GNU AS - what we have for intel[09:58:31] <LeftWing> Right.[09:58:43] <igork> but, i think, it is another story[09:59:02] <jzu_> Hmm, getting report that bnx driver is not functioning with latest SmartOS and 5709C[10:00:08] <igork> still closed binary?[10:00:37] <LeftWing> jzu_: Did it work in the past?[10:00:40] <jzu_> instructed the person to email smartos-discuss with his findings[10:00:46] <LeftWing> That seems reasonable. Thank you.[10:00:47] <jzu_> LeftWing: with 2016 release apparently[10:01:06] <jzu_> NetXtreme II BCM5709 Gigabit Ethernet to be specific[10:01:07] <LeftWing> I wonder if it interacts poorly with some other networking stack change that's been made.[10:04:05] * LeftWing off to bed -- night folks! &[10:08:46] <alp_> night[10:09:35] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #illumos[10:14:25] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #illumos[10:15:53] <Cthulhux> morning^^[10:16:04] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:19:30] *** kdavyd <kdavyd!sid17852@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ltxaqkptvrjrxret> has quit IRC ()[10:19:53] *** kdavyd <kdavyd!sid17852@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bxnhiwtgrslxachw> has joined #illumos[10:21:48] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@87-14-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:22:00] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@87-14-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #illumos[10:36:01] *** pk12 <pk12!~pk12@199.241.146.163> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:43:02] <yurip> alp: [ \t] is bad[10:43:43] <yurip> at least, if it is in regexp :)[10:44:13] *** atrius <atrius!~atrius@99-160-139-232.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[10:47:10] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has joined #illumos[10:49:25] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@5ec0fdb3.skybroadband.com> has joined #illumos[10:53:41] <yurip> "The special characters '.', '*', '[', and '\\' ( <period>, <asterisk>, <left-square-bracket>, and <backslash>, respectively) shall lose their special meaning within a bracket expression."[10:55:22] <alp_> :([10:56:12] *** atrius <atrius!~atrius@99-160-139-232.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[10:58:05] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@87-14-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:05:21] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@87-14-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #illumos[11:16:24] <igork> https://www.illumos.org/bugs/ - Page not found[11:16:30] <igork> only for me?[11:17:09] <wilbury> also not for me[11:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:20:06] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[11:23:35] <yurip> it's either bugs.illumos.org (see /topic) or illumos.org/issues[11:23:39] <yurip> so expected[11:24:35] <wilbury> there are some "unsafe scripts"[11:24:41] <wilbury> at least chrome reports it[11:46:44] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #illumos[11:59:45] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:58] * yurip is expecting a lot of commit spam :D[12:00:10] <Woodstock> :->[12:08:29] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has joined #illumos[12:14:17] <ptribble> Hm, who's this creehack app?[12:14:18] <ptribble> https://www.illumos.org/users/5328[12:14:49] <igork> super spammer?[12:15:28] <ptribble> spammer for sure, not very super though[12:17:25] <tsoome> also in 9099[12:17:38] <yurip> :)[12:18:41] <yurip> at least they gave us something to talk about[12:22:15] <igork> spam on bugs with games url[12:34:59] *** jollyd <jollyd!~alarcher@188.113.95.225> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[12:39:42] *** hotaronohanako <hotaronohanako!~user@unaffiliated/hotaronohanako> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:42:14] *** yurip <yurip!~yuri@94.233.224.35> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:42:59] *** hotaronohanako <hotaronohanako!~user@unaffiliated/hotaronohanako> has joined #illumos[12:44:54] *** yurip <yurip!~yuri@94.233.224.35> has joined #illumos[12:46:12] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@5ec0fdb3.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:47:54] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@5ec0fdb3.skybroadband.com> has joined #illumos[13:20:33] <andyf> If we want something to talk about, please have a look at ptribble's comments on https://illumos.org/rb/r/850/ :)[13:21:35] <andyf> I'm unsure at the moment..[13:23:01] <tsoome> I’d say, it does not matter if the current implementation is wrong, as long as the feature is there. if we agree this implementation should be replaced, we can do it later.[13:24:04] <tsoome> we are too stuck into finding “perfect” solutions, it does not have to be perfect as long as we get things there and people can start to poke around.[13:24:39] <andyf> well, it's easy enough to implement it either way - I'm interested in more opinions, I can go with the concensus[13:25:06] <yurip> freebsd's -o is just an alias for -s[13:25:18] <yurip> may be we should change 'SunOS'?![13:25:22] * yurip hides[13:25:25] <tsoome> :P[13:25:43] <igork> change 'SunOS' to FreeBSD? :)[13:26:18] <yurip> :\[13:27:51] <wiedi> for "name of the userland" things like /etc/release might be better and LX is all made up anyway and could return whatever ("Linux") using whatever interface?[13:28:48] <igork> wiedi: i think it depend on lx - it can return base image[13:29:45] <igork> it can be based on distribution line[13:30:07] <andyf> I think the basic question is what -o is supposed to report..[13:30:10] <andyf> GNU says "print the operating system"[13:30:29] <andyf> FreeBSD - kern.ostype[13:30:44] <igork> what is it on bsd/osx/linux?[13:30:55] <andyf> which is why I kept andy_js' original implementation where the userspace utility asks the kernel for the answer[13:31:11] <jperkin> it's an illegal option on bsd/osx[13:31:13] <andyf> but ptribble makes a good point...[13:31:18] <igork> uname -o[13:31:18] <igork> uname: illegal option -- o[13:31:23] <jperkin> I still think it's a crazy idea, but my opinion doesn't really count[13:31:28] <igork> it is on osx[13:31:29] <andyf> in an lx zone, `/native/sbin/uname -o` would print illumos[13:31:34] <andyf> but I suppose that's right[13:31:48] <igork> jperkin: my +1 for crazy idea too[13:32:31] <igork> why we need -o ? and were? what benefit[13:34:03] <igork> for lx zones - they are all just userland apps - not kernel[13:34:55] <tsoome> tsoome@freebsd-2:~ % uname -o[13:34:56] <tsoome> FreeBSD[13:35:40] <jperkin> s,bsd,netbsd,[13:35:45] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@2001:41d0:1:8a82:7670:6e00:7670:6e00> has joined #illumos[13:38:18] *** Asgaroth_ <Asgaroth_!~Asgaroth@212.2.172.228> has joined #illumos[13:38:53] <yurip> jeffpc: did you just change what 'uname -s' returns in your fork?[13:39:12] <jeffpc> yurip: yes[13:39:20] <yurip> and how much broke?[13:39:39] <jeffpc> lots, but I have something like garrett's puname[13:39:59] <jeffpc> to provide legacy uname(2) values[13:40:11] <jeffpc> (that is, sunos 5.11)[13:40:18] <ptribble> Well, for gnu, uname -s gives you the kernel, -o the operating system, which I would interpret as userland, so asking the kernel for -o seems wrong[13:41:05] *** Asgaroth <Asgaroth!~Asgaroth@212.2.172.228> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:41:11] <tsoome> except we have no operating system:P[13:41:12] <tsoome> :D[13:41:25] <yurip> tsoome: why not?[13:41:36] <yurip> what exactly is missing?[13:41:49] <jeffpc> ptribble: -o is a GNU extension[13:42:46] <Woodstock> ptribble: i think you're right[13:43:08] <ptribble> jeffpc: which means we can't refer to a standards doc to tell us what it should mean[13:43:35] *** Asgaroth_ <Asgaroth_!~Asgaroth@212.2.172.228> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:43:41] <jeffpc> ptribble: yes; and the only uname(1) that I know of that implements it is GNU's[13:43:52] <jeffpc> ptribble: all others I've seen just don't accept the arg[13:44:04] <jeffpc> ptribble: it should be a trivial patch to GNU uname to modify -o output[13:44:17] <yurip> freebsd?[13:44:28] <tsoome> I just did paste fbsd.[13:44:39] * jeffpc scrolls back[13:44:39] <tsoome> what does uname -o output on linux?[13:44:45] <jeffpc> ah[13:44:53] <andyf> tsoome: GNU/Linux[13:45:09] <tsoome> is GNU/Linux an OS?[13:45:36] <andyf> jeffpc: it's not even a patch, just set an environment variable before running ./configure[13:45:43] <yurip> tsoome: why illumos is not an OS?[13:46:01] <igork> yurip: you know answer :)[13:46:11] <igork> illumos - it is not OS[13:46:16] <yurip> no, I don't know, and consider it an OS[13:46:18] <tsoome> gief me the media:)[13:46:30] <jeffpc> andyf: that easy? neat[13:46:40] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 6653 dtrace modifies ELF string table causing problems for linker -- Jerry Jelinek <jerry.jelinek at joyent dot com>[13:46:41] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8571 Makefile.master should not trust $PATH -- Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>[13:46:42] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8960 libefi: import efichar.c for ucs2 support -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[13:46:43] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9068 libgen: this statement may fall through -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[13:46:43] <ptribble> So if gnu uname just embeds the OS as a static string in the uname binary, why don't we[13:46:44] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9087 9001 forgot to remove THIRDPARTYLICENSE -- Yuri Pankov <yuri.pankov at nexenta dot com>[13:46:45] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9088 fgrep and egrep don't need to have separate man pages -- Yuri Pankov <yuri.pankov at nexenta dot com>[13:46:46] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9098 loader: ptable_close should check for NULL argument -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[13:47:28] <yurip> tsoome: so it's only about installation media?[13:47:40] <tsoome> nikolam: 9098 is your fix, but you will get busted without vtoc otherwise[13:48:09] <tsoome> well, install media by itself does imply some sort of completeness[13:48:34] <yurip> I'm asking seriously, why you don't consider illumos not an OS[13:49:02] <jeffpc> obivously my opinion doesn't matter that much, but (1) if the kernel returns the -o string, then it makes sense to make sure it can be branded (lx userland *might* get upset if it expected GNU/Linux and got Illumos), and (2) is there a reason this isn't just a hardcoded string in uname(1)?[13:49:10] <tsoome> yep, it is not complete enough because it is unable to provide the installable system.[13:49:16] <yurip> really, I don't want to use "distro" (especially something like dilos :D)[13:49:28] <yurip> I want to install illumos :D[13:49:46] <jeffpc> and FWIW, I'm not going to do anything like this in my fork[13:49:47] <igork> yurip: haha ;)[13:49:53] <jeffpc> my -s is sane ;)[13:49:58] <jeffpc> and that's good enough ;)[13:50:03] <yurip> igork: you just got too far away from vanilla[13:50:24] <yurip> just thath, my remark didn't mean you are doing something bad[13:50:26] <andyf> GNU uname does hardcode the string and determines it at ./configure time[13:50:34] <andyf> jeffpc: lx userland will be using GNU uname, not native illumos one[13:50:42] <igork> yurip: good to hear it :)[13:50:49] <jeffpc> andyf: fair enough[13:51:29] <andyf> since at least ptribble, Woodstock and GNU think it's something to be hardcoded in the uname binary, I will amend the patch.[13:51:45] <andyf> Better than talking about s * u * p * e * r spammers, no?[13:51:54] <tsoome> :D[13:53:57] <andyf> Thanks all[13:55:28] <jeffpc> andyf: GNU probaby does it because the kernel doesn't give them anything like that, but at least for now hardcoding sounds simpler and good enough[13:57:39] *** jollyd <jollyd!~alarcher@2001:700:300:4104:863a:4bff:feae:6226> has joined #illumos[14:02:54] <andy_js> jeffpc: We also changed uname.[14:02:58] <andy_js> Where is your fork?[14:03:15] <yurip> andy_js: same question for you, how much stuff broke?[14:03:22] <jeffpc> andy_js: http://repo.or.cz/unleashed.git[14:03:47] <andy_js> Same answer as jeffpc. We use Garrett’s uname stuff from illumos-core.[14:03:52] <jeffpc> andy_js: "we" == racktop?[14:03:59] <andy_js> Yup.[14:04:10] <yurip> andy_js: is it usable for illumos-gate?[14:04:15] <andyf> the code I put up for review is based on a patch from andy_js[14:04:18] <jeffpc> andy_js: FWIW, we started with garrett's, but ended up simplifying it a ton and moving it all to libc[14:04:48] <jeffpc> and it's driven by an env var[14:05:08] <jeffpc> one of the bsds does a similar thing with uname[14:05:57] <tsoome> nikolam: sorry, it was too early, 9099 will be yours;)[14:06:23] <jeffpc> andy_js: http://repo.or.cz/unleashed.git/blob/HEAD:/usr/src/lib/libc/port/sys/uname.c[14:07:11] <andy_js> That’ll do it.[14:07:29] <jeffpc> it's much simpler than dealing with kernel proc flags[14:07:41] <jeffpc> and setting/unsetting is as easy as export/unset[14:07:55] <yurip> hey, I want it in illumos-gate![14:07:57] <andy_js> Though to be honest I do like having it all done in the kernel.[14:08:21] <jeffpc> andy_js: and here's the new puname(1): http://repo.or.cz/unleashed.git/blob/HEAD:/bin/puname/puname.c[14:08:22] <andy_js> I like the idea that we could change the default and have a tunable for folks that refuse to move with the times.[14:08:31] <jeffpc> yeah[14:08:40] <jeffpc> garrett's is certainly more flexible[14:09:08] <jeffpc> we're only using this to transition, so something simpler makes more sense[14:09:18] <jeffpc> I'm looking forward to ripping it out ;)[14:11:06] *** jollyd <jollyd!~alarcher@2001:700:300:4104:863a:4bff:feae:6226> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[14:14:12] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[14:17:44] <Woodstock> andyf: i'm not so sure about hardcoding it in the uname binary. isn't there some sort of library interface where this could live?[14:18:07] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@104-8-25-179.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[14:23:37] <ptribble> I think the simplest answer - for now - is just to embed it in the binary. Cheap and quick, no external consequences.[14:24:13] <Woodstock> hmm yes[14:24:56] <ptribble> The obvious library interface to put this is utsname.h via uname(2), but I'm not sure you want to modify that until you know whether this is useful and what it should return[14:25:00] <Woodstock> what does gnu uname -o say on illumos?[14:25:39] <ptribble> On recent OmniOS and Tribblix, "illumos", older and other distros, "Solaris"[14:25:47] <Woodstock> ah[14:26:16] <Woodstock> perhaps those other distros should do the same :->[14:37:09] <igork> Woodstock: # guname -o[14:37:09] <igork> Solaris[14:41:20] <alp_> ptribble: the fact that you are using it makes me more happy, at least we'll not have broken xorg ;)[14:42:20] <ptribble> I haven't rebuilt X in quite some time, so I wouldn't read anything into that yet[14:42:29] <alp_> he-he[14:42:57] <andyf> just realised we don't ship /usr/bin/guname.. might be useful[14:43:15] <andyf> (or, it might break things if any software actually looks for that name )[14:51:15] *** _jared_ <_jared_!sid677@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fwhkvsxpgezbhraj> has quit IRC ()[14:51:32] *** _jared_ <_jared_!sid677@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-juevufeqjsktxoxr> has joined #illumos[14:54:16] *** asedeno <asedeno!sid1037@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oobljhmqjyrinmrk> has quit IRC ()[14:54:35] *** asedeno <asedeno!sid1037@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vspovfqcgitjxbuk> has joined #illumos[15:08:50] *** ilovezfs_ <ilovezfs_!sid15973@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mrysfeegkwavfmzf> has quit IRC ()[15:10:01] *** ilovezfs_ <ilovezfs_!sid15973@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qxxkbufbuukrsewg> has joined #illumos[15:13:57] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@98.13.72.207> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:18:36] *** philipcristiano <philipcristiano!sid108146@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sswdhimzoqmrhniy> has quit IRC ()[15:18:53] *** philipcristiano <philipcristiano!sid108146@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ttatfazbtnbhxrxl> has joined #illumos[15:25:12] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[15:28:12] *** yurip <yurip!~yuri@94.233.224.35> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:28:42] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:29:01] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[15:30:16] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:30:23] *** yurip <yurip!~yuri@94.233.224.35> has joined #illumos[15:30:35] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[15:37:01] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :))[15:37:23] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[15:37:33] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:40:04] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[15:42:29] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[15:46:17] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D)[15:47:36] *** ldepandis <ldepandis!~ldepandis@unaffiliated/ldepandis> has joined #illumos[15:48:40] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[15:51:05] *** w8hd <w8hd!~kimc@cpe-65-25-122-137.neo.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:51:12] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC ()[15:51:29] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[15:52:00] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:52:17] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[15:52:47] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:53:03] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[15:53:34] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:54:02] *** yurip <yurip!~yuri@94.233.224.35> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:56:10] <andy_js> jeffpc: You’re using LibreSSL too?[15:57:38] <andy_js> Wait a minute…. what is this sorcery?[15:57:48] <andy_js> You’re using BSD make?[15:59:57] *** jen20 <jen20!sid124227@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qkippeoneqclsvnb> has quit IRC ()[16:00:14] *** jen20 <jen20!sid124227@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mobermajnercpxkn> has joined #illumos[16:01:00] *** tomoyat1 <tomoyat1!~tomoyat1@tomoyat1.com> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - 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I have a script what will generate Makefiles for gmake.[16:10:06] <jeffpc> you have dmake2gmake conversion script?[16:10:18] <andy_js> All the variables (including those ENABLE_WHATEVER_THING ones) behave the same way so you can use it with bldenv.sh.[16:10:28] <andy_js> Yes, essentially.[16:10:30] <xorhash> Questionable if dmake -> gmake is more sane than sticking to BSD make, though[16:10:40] <yurip> bmake++[16:10:40] <jeffpc> andy_js: can you send me a copy? :D[16:11:20] <andy_js> jeffpc: Let me verify it still works first.[16:11:25] <xorhash> And thus, more GNU found its way into a system.[16:11:37] <jeffpc> andy_js: I'd be hacking it up to turn it into dmake2bmake[16:12:15] <andy_js> There are benefits. We have a build system that wraps a bunch of different things that use gmake (like LibreSSL) and it allows us to load balance the lot.[16:12:30] <jeffpc> yep[16:12:47] <jeffpc> you don't have to convince me that converting to any other make is a good idea[16:14:08] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:16:44] <xorhash> You're doing really interesting things in unleashed[16:18:30] <andy_js> Am I right in thinking you don’t care about anything other than x86?[16:20:19] <yurip> as if there's much else[16:21:02] <jeffpc> andy_js: I already nuked sparc, yes[16:21:13] <jeffpc> andy_js: I am *interested* in other archs, but I don't have the time[16:21:18] <andy_js> ARM is what I had in mind.[16:21:20] <jeffpc> xorhash: that's the point of it ;)[16:21:31] <ptribble> The number of sparc users is, ahem, small[16:21:45] <jeffpc> andy_js: yep, if someone really wanted to, I'd happily let them do the work[16:22:18] <xorhash> jeffpc: Am I right in seeing that unleashed has no actual website or release yet or am I just bad at googling?[16:22:39] <jeffpc> xorhash: you are correct.[16:22:46] <jeffpc> I need to throw together a website[16:22:51] <jeffpc> and finally set up the mailing list[16:22:56] <jeffpc> and tag a release[16:23:25] <jeffpc> so much to do! :)[16:23:36] <xorhash> An OS is a lot of work![16:23:41] <jeffpc> indeed[16:24:12] <jeffpc> even if you throw out virtually all binary compatibility[16:24:40] <xorhash> andy_js: ARM is an interesting thought, but do embedded devs actually follow illumos? ARM on the desktop still seems more dream than reality[16:24:52] <jeffpc> xorhash: in case you haven't found it... here's the "short" list of what's different: http://repo.or.cz/unleashed.git/blob/HEAD:/FEATURES.txt[16:25:41] <andy_js> I’m living in the past so I would rather have illumos on IBM Power[16:25:55] <andy_js> Those new Talos boards are extremely tempting.[16:25:59] <jeffpc> andy_js: my favorite arch is s390x, so... yeah :)[16:26:44] <xorhash> jeffpc: I saw, you seem to be aggressively removing things and I'm curious where it'll take you[16:27:02] <andy_js> I’m not sure I could pull off bringing up illumos on a new arch[16:27:07] <jeffpc> xorhash: I'm hoping the answer is "modern times" ;)[16:27:34] <jeffpc> andy_js: it's a full time job given the state of the code[16:27:59] <jeffpc> andy_js: that is, one has to copy & paste / implement waaaay too much, IMO[16:28:04] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:28:48] <andy_js> I’ve never really gone beneath the kernel.[16:28:57] <andy_js> It would definitely be a baptism of fire.[16:31:19] <jeffpc> it's a mix of easy and impossible[16:31:52] <xorhash> jeffpc: While you're plagiarizing from OpenBSD, thoughts on importing timingsafe_{b,mem}cmp into libc or do you want people to link against LibreSSL for it?[16:32:30] <jeffpc> xorhash: it is BSD licensed code, therefore it's not plagarism ;)[16:32:39] <jeffpc> xorhash: I don't have any objections to those being in libc[16:34:44] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #illumos[16:38:22] <xorhash> Note that they'll probably require special build options to avoid the compiler optimizing their timing safety away[16:39:09] <xorhash> I know Monocypher had issues with an algorithm like the one in lib/libcrypto/compat/timingsafe_bcmp.c where the generated assembly was questionable at -O3[16:40:32] <xorhash> See https://github.com/LoupVaillant/Monocypher/issues/38 and the commit that replaced it[16:40:36] <jeffpc> good to know[16:40:54] <xorhash> So there's probably value in a makefile hack to compile that file in particular with -O0[16:41:25] <jeffpc> mhm[16:42:32] <yurip> that's not how you make compiler not optimize away something[16:42:58] <xorhash> Hm?[16:43:39] <xorhash> What would be the proper way?[16:45:57] <yurip> e.g. https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/640/diff/8/download/35190/new/[16:47:38] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@pool-71-244-148-68.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[16:48:14] <xorhash> I'm not sure if I understand you correctly. I'm not talking about a memset call being optimized out, but rather about assembly language output for a function that might not uphold guarantees of constant-time execution that a "naive" translation would.[16:49:08] <xorhash> Unless I misunderstand your example[16:50:42] <yurip> oh, it's me who misunderstood[16:51:54] <xorhash> It happens, no worries[17:00:37] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has joined #illumos[17:00:52] <xorhash> jeffpc: Mind if I PM btw?[17:01:00] <jeffpc> go for it[17:04:29] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[17:08:26] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~IceChat9@pool-108-52-4-148.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[17:12:23] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[17:16:32] *** MilkmanDan <MilkmanDan!~dan@wilug/expat/MilkmanDan> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:16:55] *** pk12 <pk12!~pk12@199.241.146.163> has joined #illumos[17:18:02] *** MilkmanDan <MilkmanDan!~dan@wilug/expat/MilkmanDan> has joined #illumos[17:20:36] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:23:47] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #illumos[17:35:45] *** toasterson_ <toasterson_!~toast@85.195.192.69> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:38:14] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[17:42:29] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@5.3.239.249> has joined #illumos[17:47:52] *** toothe <toothe!~toothe@unaffiliated/toothe> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9)[18:12:04] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #illumos[18:14:48] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:15:26] *** Nerakhon <Nerakhon!~janpaul@2001:4878:8261:10:c904:f6f7:7864:e775> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:26:18] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@pool-71-244-148-68.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:30:34] *** jubal <jubal!~jubal@205-5-237-24.gci.net> has joined #illumos[18:31:02] *** jubal <jubal!~jubal@205-5-237-24.gci.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:38:52] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@104-8-25-179.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Just a bit hard to figure out what without a clue about ips[23:26:53] <richlowe> if you did it right, you should be able to install it.[23:27:05] <richlowe> it will not install on its own unless there's a dependency that brings it in.[23:27:32] <richlowe> pkg install -nv <your package>@latest # should provide info about what's going wrong, if it won't install[23:28:03] <richlowe> a common further problem we at least used to have is people not checking the build actually ad succeeded, so if by some chance you haven't, do that too[23:28:14] <richlowe> like, I'm really not joking, that happened a lot, but I hope I fixed all the cases nightly didn't make it obvious.[23:29:54] <wiedi> mail_msg looked ok[23:30:02] <wiedi> https://gist.github.com/wiedi/d0cb85d5652230560db704ae2000a707 is the error[23:30:49] <richlowe> did you actually onu? that still looks like an OI version of osnet-incorporation, too[23:30:53] <richlowe> unless you set your package versions to match theres?[23:30:56] <richlowe> "theirs"[23:32:56] <wiedi> https://gist.github.com/wiedi/f278215231edbd5b353e16231332b36b it created a new BE and booted into it at least[23:33:16] <richlowe> did you set the package versions in your environment file, such that they were newer than OIs?[23:34:49] <wiedi> aah[23:34:54] <wiedi> export PKGVERS_BRANCH=2017.1.0.0[23:34:57] <wiedi> I should probably bump that[23:35:05] <richlowe> I mean, onu clearly did _something_, but maybe it just updated some surrounding stuff by chance?[23:35:06] <richlowe> I'm at a loss, basically :)[23:36:11] <wiedi> thanks, I think that might have been it[23:36:34] <wiedi> *reboot, rebuild, wait*[23:46:19] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@98.13.72.207> has joined #illumos[23:46:24] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@5ec0fdb3.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js)[23:46:26] *** phyre <phyre!~phyre___@188.208.100.249> has joined #illumos[23:51:19] *** elevated <elevated!~elevated@kite.riseup.net> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[23:53:37] *** _Tenchi_ <_Tenchi_!~phil@207-255-68-080-dhcp.aoo.pa.atlanticbb.net> has joined #illumos[23:56:22] *** amrmesh <amrmesh!~Thunderbi@37.63.136.234> has joined #illumos[23:56:57] *** phyre <phyre!~phyre___@188.208.100.249> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:58:40] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@217.219.15.220> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:58:41] *** amrmesh is now known as amrfrsh