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[00:04:01] <danmcd> FIxed.
[00:06:12] <yurip> richlowe: it doesn't anymore
[00:13:06] <richlowe> I'm so confused.
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[00:25:17] <yurip> richlowe: I think the webrev man page changes were there previously?!
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[00:25:58] <yurip> at least I remember looking at them :D
[00:26:24] <yurip> or is it deja vu
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[08:23:57] <sjorge> At what time does building k open?
[08:23:58] <sjorge> I just arrived
[08:29:10] <sjorge> Ah it’s open, time to move boxes and bags!
[08:38:41] <yurip> alp_: you there?
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[09:09:37] <tsoome> “Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.”
[09:09:55] <tsoome> that sorry is there for over the week now
[09:11:15] <tsoome> so it is impossible to report an bug against qemu…
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[09:42:04] <yurip> there are so many different "launchpads"
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[09:56:46] <tsoome> ye, that one is from canonical
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[10:20:05] <yurip> tsoome: btw, do you have the fix for vmware already? :D
[10:20:16] <tsoome> working with it right now
[10:20:25] <yurip> got it
[10:21:01] <tsoome> thats assuming the map layout is the cause of course.
[10:21:33] <yurip> could you please also enable timestamps in your file listing? :D
[10:23:04] <tsoome> heh
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[20:36:55] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9001 cdm is useless, remove it -- Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>
[20:36:56] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9005 remove .hgignore -- Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>
[20:36:57] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9006 parallel loader builds fail sporadically -- Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>
[20:37:22] <richlowe> if my track record of fucking up continues, feel free to back that out without waiting on me this time.
[20:40:40] <igork> richlowe: how much threads you are using with your builds?
[20:43:46] <richlowe> not sue
[20:43:46] <richlowe>
[20:43:49] <richlowe> 'sure'
[20:44:20] <igork> for example: on sparc i'm using 24 thread, but on intel - 12
[20:44:38] <richlowe> I know what you're asking, I just almost always let it default
[20:45:02] <igork> and mail_msg can let you know about number
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[20:56:02] <richlowe> auto-correcting 'natively' to 'naively' in code comments is making me feel all kinds of judged.
[20:56:37] <igork> :)
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[20:59:13] <copec> I think you've passed muster richlowe - you can just go Honey Badger on what other people think :-P
[21:02:40] <igork> what do you think about picture - https://cl.ly/3I0E0Q3Y3830 - how is iilumos code base available in others forks?
[21:02:54] <igork> illumos
[21:03:27] <igork> i was asking about some explanations :)
[21:03:43] <igork> how as i wrong with this picture?
[21:05:24] <igork> and i have no ideas id part of illumos-joyent available on omnios tree and how often in sync
[21:05:42] <copec> Did everyone that was making opensolaris based distributions before illumos rebase off of illumos after it was forked?
[21:06:10] <igork> i don't know
[21:06:34] <igork> i'm working with illumos tree from 2010 year
[21:06:44] <richlowe> nexenta and Joyent did, several gave up.
[21:07:01] <richlowe> no idea about schilling and bochnig
[21:07:13] <igork> what version was?
[21:07:53] <igork> i remember instruction for illumos tree based on opensolaris build b134
[21:08:04] <igork> for illumos build
[21:08:06] <richlowe> right, that was the last available opensolaris.
[21:08:15] <richlowe> and at the time, literally the only thing that worked.
[21:08:35] <igork> and i remember and used your update to b147 for sparc
[21:09:01] <igork> i used it for bootstrap to illumos build env
[21:09:52] <richlowe> pretty sure you can build stock illumos on oi and omnios, at least.
[21:10:11] <richlowe> I'm not sure whether you _could_ on smartos, but I can't work out why you'd want to either.
[21:10:45] <richlowe> Woodstock made nexenta's adjunct stuff pretty great, so I would expect it could be done arbitrarily there too
[21:11:17] <igork> i know only OI way for stock illumos builds - omnios still support it after some lx zone ports?
[21:11:46] <richlowe> I don't know about _installing_ a stock illumos, that seems silly.
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[21:12:20] <xorhash> richlowe: I've been trying to do that, but I'm fairly new to the whole illumos thing in general, so my success has been fairly limited. It's definitely involved with little documentation.
[21:12:47] <igork> if they have smartos zones updates - it's very hard to setup exclusive ip-type in zones with OI
[21:12:57] <richlowe> it's unfortunately one of those things that's hard to document once you understand it, because it's hard to remember the 'obvious' bits that weren't obvious before
[21:13:15] <xorhash> I know that feeling.
[21:13:18] <igork> and how often it changed - yes
[21:13:51] <xorhash> I'm probably putting the cart way before the horse, trying to get a vanilla illumos going before I actually really understand the system itself, but oh well.
[21:14:26] <igork> i think with some extra work with adjunct hints i can try to just build illumos, but not install it
[21:14:50] <igork> testregex.c:1261:7: error: variable 'nonexec' set but not used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]
[21:14:50] <igork> testregex.c:1223:7: error: variable 'nexec' set but not used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]
[21:14:56] <igork> yurip: ^^^
[21:15:10] <igork> test debug build on dilos by gcc55
[21:15:19] <igork> with new illumos updates
[21:16:47] <yurip> file a bug and fix it?
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[21:16:53] <igork> :)
[21:17:26] <igork> a lot of others tests with kpti builds, sorry
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[21:20:15] <yurip> sure
[21:21:35] <yurip> unless we switch to newer compiler officially, those are going to happen
[21:22:11] <igork> i think tsoome will be happy to found and fix it with his gcc6 tree :)
[21:24:38] <yurip> well, dumping the issues on irc and hoping that "someone else" will fix that isn't going to work
[21:24:54] <igork> yurip: https://paste.dilos.org/?ca0f5d6a9bb20cbe#Rxzvc2rlTXNCa27Yu4ytgQVe8PH6Mjp4xYP4BkdXrf8=
[21:25:03] <igork> it is example how i try to fic it
[21:25:10] <yurip> same with your "I did that in dilos, but I don't have time to integrate to illumos" proposals
[21:25:14] <igork> if it is correct - you can use it
[21:25:35] <yurip> I'm not even opening that link :D
[21:26:09] <igork> up to you - i try to help by reporting of problems :)
[21:27:39] <igork> and again - i can't contribute to original illumos tree now - because i can't build original illumos
[21:27:55] <igork> i can try to propose some fixes - what i try to do
[21:28:09] <igork> and - you can ignore it :)
[21:28:43] <yurip> yeah, setting up a vm with OI/omnios is really hard
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[21:29:06] <igork> yes - zone not working
[21:29:18] <igork> exclusive ip-type broken
[21:29:30] <yurip> whatever.
[21:29:43] <igork> no another resources :)
[21:29:46] <yurip> yes, I'm going to ignore
[21:30:25] <tsoome> btw, if you have uefi capable system, it would be nice if you can test images from http://90.191.113.13 (usb/iso)
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[21:31:15] <yurip> yeah, downloading
[21:31:28] <xorhash> tsoome: Are you interested in old Apple EFI as well or only strictly UEFI?
[21:31:50] <yurip> the usb one did boot on my mbp2017
[21:31:53] <xorhash> I know there are some relevant differences; framebuffer passthrough in particular comes to mind
[21:32:49] <tsoome> if it is really old, its using UGA, that one probably wont work:)
[21:32:58] <xorhash> Yeah, it uses UGA.
[21:33:25] <xorhash> MacBook4,1 from early 2008
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[21:33:41] <tsoome> the screen scroll is definitely broken there (the code is using GOP)
[21:34:26] <xorhash> OpenBSD also only supports GOP, so at least you've got company in being GOP-only
[21:35:17] <tsoome> the only known UGA is from early intel macs, so it is just pointless to go after uga:)
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[21:36:24] <yurip> what's uga? google gives only absolutely irrelevant answers
[21:36:52] <tsoome> uefi has 2 gfx feature support
[21:37:27] <tsoome> early one was uga, now the current is gop
[21:38:55] <xorhash> They both handle graphics. I'm not sure how compatible they are, but I know there's some degree of incompatibility. You may want to grep the FreeBSD tree for "efiuga" case-insensitively if you're interested in the nasty details.
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[21:40:55] <tsoome> yes, we have the same fbsd code to get the linear framebuffer but I have no hw to test it, so nothing really done to make sure it does anything reasonable there.
[21:41:22] <xorhash> So wait, the code for UGA is at least *theoretically* there?
[21:41:29] <xorhash> Let me flash it up, then.
[21:41:31] <tsoome> and frankly, not much point to invest time there unless someone is really willing to do so
[21:42:41] <tsoome> if the screen is really messed, (blind) press esc key, then type: framebuffer off
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[21:48:01] <xorhash> I think I'm not even properly reaching loader
[21:48:35] <tsoome> usb os iso?
[21:48:36] <xorhash> "UFS found 1 partition" is the last message that flashes by, then it appears stuck at a black screen with the cursor being at the top left. I wonder if it's choking on the OpenBSD installed on the HDD.
[21:48:51] <xorhash> OpenIndiana_Text_X86.usb on a MacBook4,1 (early 2008)
[21:48:58] <xorhash> Certain about it being an EFI boot
[21:49:39] <tsoome> its likely just messed up with UGA
[21:50:11] <tsoome> the boot1 is printing the messages with simpletext protocol, but loader there is trying FB
[21:50:38] <xorhash> Possibly. I'm not sure how close your loader is to FreeBSD's. Unless it's a 1:1 carbon copy, it's probably choking on UGA.
[21:51:05] <xorhash> FreeBSD's is known good in my case
[21:51:34] <tsoome> its not entirely 1:1 as fbsd is using simpletext and is only passing FB pointer down to kernel
[21:51:51] <xorhash> Then yes, most likely culprit is UGA.
[21:51:52] <yurip> tsoome: the .iso boots in workstation vm
[21:52:11] <tsoome> ou, not bugging as before?
[21:52:48] <yurip> I didn't test previous one :\ only our iso built with your loader changes
[21:53:02] <yurip> do you have previous to check?
[21:53:26] <yurip> (that's why I asked about timestamps :D)
[21:53:37] <xorhash> It's probably not worth chasing the UGA unicorn. I personally don't feel the drive to try and figure it out, so I guess just put it on the things to inform users about.
[21:54:14] <tsoome> yurip: I think i should have yep
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