November 23, 2017 
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November 23, 2017 [00:02:59] *** khalfell_ <khalfell_!~khalfella@73.95.134.251> has joined #illumos[00:05:45] *** khalfella <khalfella!~khalfella@73.95.135.115> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[00:13:32] *** AndrewG <AndrewG!~andrew@a20.cucumber.me.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:14:49] *** AndrewG <AndrewG!~andrew@a20.cucumber.me.uk> has joined #illumos[00:30:46] <rdenis> yawn[00:30:53] <rdenis> hows illumos life lately[00:44:02] *** because <because!ayy@cpe-76-173-133-37.hawaii.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:51:09] *** because <because!ayy@cpe-76-173-133-37.hawaii.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[01:00:22] *** rzezeski <rzezeski!uid151901@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-taduyixscswfhhkc> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[01:08:26] *** SIN3R6Y <SIN3R6Y!~alexm@rrcs-98-102-210-251.central.biz.rr.com> has joined #illumos[01:10:28] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@98.13.72.207> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:34:50] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@98.13.72.207> has joined #illumos[01:43:27] *** tomww <tomww!~tom@unaffiliated/tomww> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:12:00] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg016-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:12:17] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg016-o.oracle.com> has joined #illumos[02:12:21] *** khalfell_ <khalfell_!~khalfella@73.95.134.251> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:20:06] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[02:37:55] *** v_a_b1 <v_a_b1!~volker@p5DE8FAF0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[02:40:32] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p5DE8F92F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[02:53:17] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@98.13.72.207> has joined #illumos[02:54:57] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@98.13.72.207> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:58:35] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@2600:8800:1b04:8700:6d53:11ea:49c2:16a6> has joined #illumos[03:02:31] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@104-8-25-179.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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:)[10:04:41] <alp_> By default /etc/default/login sets PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/gnu/bin[10:04:48] <alp_> and it seems to be correct[10:05:24] <Woodstock> i don't know, probably some ancient compatibility promise or such. in general i don't care, my .tcshrc sets my path depending on the OS it is used on :)[10:06:09] <alp_> if I remember correctly, they (grep and xpg4 grep) had incompatibilities in templates handling[10:06:23] <alp_> but overall, illumos grep and awk are awful[10:06:36] <alp_> as well as having /usr/xpgSOMEGHING/bin[10:07:22] <alp_> if tool is some historic artefact I'd say remove it or put into /usr/has/bin, where nobody sees it[10:09:02] <Woodstock> its probably simple enough to do just that, put it in a webrev, and see where that goes[10:09:51] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@185.39.197.205> has joined #illumos[10:10:35] <Woodstock> (note: that wasn't sarcasm)[10:33:55] <alp_> Woodstock: I can queue this task, but I don't know where I can get to it :)[10:34:14] <alp_> when[10:42:02] *** snuff-work <snuff-work!~snuff-wor@210.9.148.102> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:04:35] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has joined #illumos[11:10:40] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #illumos[11:20:01] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:20:07] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[11:22:55] *** allan_ <allan_!~allan@host31-51-232-208.range31-51.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[11:33:07] *** tozhu <tozhu!~tozhu@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:36:16] *** allan_ <allan_!~allan@host31-51-232-208.range31-51.btcentralplus.com> has joined #illumos[11:38:37] *** tozhu <tozhu!~tozhu@223.85.203.28> has joined #illumos[11:41:13] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@2600:8800:1b04:8700:dd2:2035:3fee:f45a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:51:44] *** tomww <tomww!~tom@unaffiliated/tomww> has joined #illumos[11:59:10] <tsoome> tomww: https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/782/[12:03:09] *** ldepandis <ldepandis!~ldepandis@unaffiliated/ldepandis> has joined #illumos[12:04:44] <tomww> tsoome: awesome![12:05:08] <Woodstock> do we know that our iconv can replace gnu iconv?[12:06:56] <tsoome> there are few cases when it can not, and thats really about starting to develop this OS, not just having empty talks.[12:10:10] <Woodstock> i'm looking forward to review some code :-P[12:10:13] <tsoome> we do not have iconv_open support for char or wchar_t[12:10:55] <Woodstock> which reminds me, i could probably go and approve a bunch of your RTIs :)[12:11:32] <tsoome> it should not be too hard to add provided that it also is present in fbsd libc, but I just do not have time for every single issue:D[12:14:39] <Woodstock> in any case i would expect that question to come up in review, and it's probably best to have a good answer already. else, more empty talk.[12:16:06] <tsoome> indeed. anyhow, this RB above is just first iteration anyhow and I have already found some issues - like missing iconvctl() which has man but no entry in iconv.h[12:16:22] <tsoome> I did create mapfile based on iconv.h :)[12:17:23] <tsoome> ou, iconvctl is from gnu package anyhow[12:17:39] <tsoome> … stupid mess[12:18:05] <Woodstock> yes, definitely. i remember the pain from the days when i still did pkgsrc bulk builds on OI.[12:20:52] <tomww> I hope that for a number of F/OSS packages the libc provided iconv is good enough. If there are stoppers that really insist on gnu-iconv enhancements, than these may need a separate copy of gnu-iconv in some private directory.[12:21:52] <Woodstock> the question would be, will it break at compile time or at runtime?[12:22:40] *** clickjack <clickjack!~clickjack@kite.riseup.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[12:25:04] <tomww> I don't expect any change for stuff that is already fine with the libc provided iconv.[12:26:56] <tomww> other software (F/OSS) we need to check. #define we 'the group porting software to illumos|openindiana|omnios'[12:28:18] <Woodstock> you probably want to run this by jperkin, too[12:28:47] <jperkin> not fussed, we use gnu iconv, as long as you don't screw stuff up :)[12:30:14] <Woodstock> :)[12:36:14] *** ldepandis <ldepandis!~ldepandis@unaffiliated/ldepandis> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[12:36:16] *** tozhu <tozhu!~tozhu@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Quit: tozhu)[12:40:31] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@25-101-157-37.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:40:52] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@25-101-157-37.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[12:41:25] <tomww> similar situation for SFE, there will still be a SFE-private copy of gnu-iconv, but for packages not badly in need for gnu-iconv I would try to remove that dependency.[12:44:48] <tsoome> it is quite easy to add the filter lib, but the real work obviously is about code updates.[12:45:53] <tsoome> anyhow, time to get to the sire and replace one T5 motherboard:P[13:08:17] *** shyu <shyu!~shyu@106.38.122.4> has joined #illumos[13:40:24] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@ks27448.kimsufi.com> has joined #illumos[14:07:41] *** Hazelesque <Hazelesque!~hazel@lopsa/member/hazelesque> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[14:19:23] *** Hazelesque <Hazelesque!~hazel@lopsa/member/hazelesque> has joined #illumos[14:29:05] *** clickjack <clickjack!~clickjack@kite.riseup.net> has joined #illumos[14:39:53] *** 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but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[17:23:37] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8816 mr_sas: variable set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[17:23:38] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8796 loader.efi: efipart does not recognize partitionless disks -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[17:23:39] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8817 ntxn: parameter 'mode_dont_care' set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[17:23:40] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8818 i86xpv/generic_cpu: variable set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[17:23:41] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8820 pam_modules: variable set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[17:23:42] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8821 smbsrv: error: variable 'dnptrs' set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[17:23:43] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8825 libsldap: variable 'buf' set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[17:23:44] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8826 libnisdb: variable set but not used 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