July 29, 2016 
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The exponentiation operator (**) in Javascript is only becoming a thing in 2016, so yeah, that whole ecosystem has a lot of catching up to do.[04:10:27] *** natkin <natkin!~natkin@cpe-70-117-102-168.austin.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[04:16:09] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[04:16:46] *** shyu <shyu!~Frank@218.241.172.114> has joined #illumos[04:23:01] <freqlabs> does this fix the weird things that happen when I try to use luajit on illumos?[04:23:27] <freqlabs> oh no, just glorious code, I see[04:24:46] <npx> It's probably not that broken, I'd have to look but like strchr() might be thrashing registers or something[04:25:06] <npx> not to hate on strchr it was just a random example[04:26:35] <freqlabs> I don't remember the problem exactly anymore, but I think it was trying to allocate a ridiculous amount of memory or something when I tried to compile things with luarocks[04:29:30] <npx> it's not in pkgsrc, I don't really use luajit but the implementation is inspired[04:31:02] <npx> builds fine here[04:31:06] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has joined #illumos[04:33:00] <npx> (it is in pkgsrc but they aren't shipping binaries, doesn't really matter because it took like 3 seconds to build)[04:34:25] <freqlabs> ah it was a segfault I was getting, I did write that much down[04:35:20] <npx> did you build with LDFLAGS="-lumem" ?[04:35:30] <freqlabs> probably not[04:35:39] <npx> I don't see why that would cause it to segfault but I build everything that way in general[04:36:03] <freqlabs> I will have to remember to try that next time[04:37:58] *** natkin <natkin!~natkin@cpe-70-117-102-168.austin.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:41:47] *** natkin <natkin!~natkin@cpe-70-117-102-168.austin.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[04:44:40] *** natkin <natkin!~natkin@cpe-70-117-102-168.austin.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:54:38] *** natkin 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IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[08:53:42] <MerlinDMC> shyu, did you create a backup?[08:54:02] <shyu> MerlinDMC, I create snapshot for it.[08:54:22] <shyu> MerlinDMC, but seem after I destroy it, the snapshot also disappear[08:54:52] <MerlinDMC> if you didn't send them somewhere for storage possibly they do[08:55:41] <shyu> MerlinDMC, unfortunately, I did't send them to another place[08:55:55] <shyu> MerlinDMC, so that there is no way to recover them?[08:57:00] <konobi> iirc snapshots are considered descendants of the dataset[08:57:25] <MerlinDMC> maybe by digging deep into the zfs structure trying to recover the deleted zvol/filesystem but that is a major undergoing and there is no guarantee that the structure you recover will be complete[08:58:36] <shyu> MerlinDMC, can you show me some details about this trick?[08:58:51] <konobi> huh... i wonder if there's a way to get zfs to do security scrubs in the background for objects that have been removed (but only the actual data on disk)[08:59:41] <MerlinDMC> https://www.joyent.com/blog/zfs-forensics-recovering-files-from-a-destroyed-zpool probably a nice place to start reading[09:01:07] <MerlinDMC> (I wouldn't do it - I would just consider it gone and think about how you do backups in the future to not let it happen again)[09:03:15] *** psychicist__ <psychicist__!~psychicis@89.101.141.193> has joined #illumos[09:03:31] <shyu> MerlinDMC, I'm going to stop the vm, I used to use 'virsh destroy vm' to stop vm under linux, and I must lost my mind when I try to stop vm on open solaris system. ....[09:03:53] <shyu> I mistake 'destroy' as 'stop'[09:04:29] <konobi> libvirt is a complete disaster[09:04:54] <konobi> i wouldn't touch it with a 50ft barge pole[09:05:29] *** catalinbostan <catalinbostan!~textual@mail.prosys.ro> has joined #illumos[09:06:09] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@75-54-22-158.lightspeed.snbuca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[09:06:27] <konobi> and scrub my brain of any of some remnants of knowledge of it, it's api, or anything associated with it.[09:11:28] <shyu> konobi, libvirt is api under linux.[09:13:12] <konobi> shyu: yes, I'm aware[09:13:34] *** sanjay <sanjay!~Adium@184-96-118-123.hlrn.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[09:18:05] <MerlinDMC> konobi, no intentions to port over virsh to illumos then? ... or maybe openstack on illumos? :)[09:20:41] <konobi> absolutely not... it doesn't even work. documentation is totally inadequate and even when there is some, it's usually not correct. The code has so many glaringly obvious bugs that I'm surprised it works at all[09:29:51] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e100:4b00::5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:58:07] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@75-54-22-158.lightspeed.snbuca.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[10:05:43] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@92.60.189.225> has joined #illumos[10:15:25] <konobi> (the api is also completely inappropriate for the task)[10:16:46] *** xsdfdfsa <xsdfdfsa!~x@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg> has joined #illumos[10:25:14] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has joined #illumos[10:27:08] *** chrustler <chrustler!~chrustler@94-137-110-36.customers.ownit.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:27:38] *** gatekeep <gatekeep!~gatekeep@2001:470:8b45:400:7578:bb49:4a1f:bf90> has joined #illumos[10:27:41] *** anniz <anniz!~anniz@c83-250-15-118.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[10:28:57] *** gatekeep 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