July 21, 2016 
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July 21, 2016 [00:00:27] <rmustacc> Okay.[00:00:47] <rmustacc> richlowe: Remind me which branch it's on there?[00:00:50] <rmustacc> uts/aslr?[00:00:52] <richlowe> Yeah.[00:01:08] <rmustacc> Sure, starting that up now.[00:01:17] <rmustacc> I'm sure I'll start complaining about merging at some point.[00:01:31] <richlowe> Well, part of my motive is I figure y'all would appreciate a trial run at that, too.[00:01:41] <rmustacc> I'll have to give Jerry notes then on what I do.[00:01:58] <rmustacc> But if you're willing to help guinea pig that bdha, thanks.[00:02:58] <bdha> Yeah, I can throw it on a few things.[00:05:06] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[00:07:07] *** ira <ira!~ira@samba/team/ira> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:09:16] <richlowe> bdha is heroic, and also good at breaking shit.[00:09:25] <bdha> Mostly the latter.[00:09:38] <tsoome> :)[00:09:38] <bdha> I can't figure out where to find the parent for shared list settings. I will bother H when she gets home.[00:11:18] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@109.121.54.71> has joined #illumos[00:11:23] <richlowe> rmustacc: have you noticed anything weird with mdb and enum printing?[00:11:57] <richlowe> it doesn't seem to realize 0 might have a name[00:11:58] <richlowe> or something.[00:12:04] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #illumos[00:12:14] <richlowe> rh_event = 0x1 (RCE_RELE), rh_event = 0 (0)[00:13:22] *** Kelzier_ <Kelzier_!~duka@109-121-26-185.adsl-a-6.sezampro.rs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:14:29] <rmustacc> Sometimes I've seen that.[00:14:33] <rmustacc> I think.[00:14:52] <rmustacc> But your merge is all kinds of fun.[00:14:57] <richlowe> as long as it's not just me being somewhat crazy.[00:14:59] <bdha> haha[00:15:10] <rmustacc> Did you add an aux vector?[00:15:38] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@109.121.54.71> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:15:41] <richlowe> I did, but then I removed it because I didn't end up using it.[00:16:10] <richlowe> did I screw up and forget to clean it up somewhere?[00:16:38] <rmustacc> No, I think you're probably fine.[00:16:43] <rmustacc> Just that lx has added some.[00:16:50] <rmustacc> So just need to make sure I have the right number.[00:17:08] <richlowe> I' pretty sure the end result should be "the same as it was before" for aux entries.[00:18:04] <rmustacc> Ah, it just is collatoral damage in the hasdy to hasintp change.[00:19:14] <rmustacc> exec/elf/elf.c is a full of me probably going to break things.[00:19:19] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has joined #illumos[00:35:57] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[00:38:09] *** dap_ <dap_!~dap@208.184.5.170> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:39:54] *** chromatin <chromatin!~chromatin@d149-67-249-75.try.wideopenwest.com> has joined #illumos[00:42:20] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[00:43:56] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[00:45:24] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:46:10] <copec> I wish the SMF used VRML instead, so I could fly through it with a Gear VR :-p[00:46:38] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[00:47:31] <rmustacc> richlowe: The strangest thing is git thinking the ctf/ctfdump/Makefile is the os-tests runfile.[00:49:03] <rmustacc> bdha: Well, we'll see if I did that right.[00:49:24] <bdha> The merge?[00:50:10] <nahamu> either that or mailing list manipulation, I'd guess.[00:50:45] <rmustacc> bdha: The merge.[00:50:51] <rmustacc> I don't do any list manipulation.[00:51:08] <rmustacc> I don't have the power to screw it up, except through shoulder surfing LeftWing.[00:51:25] <richlowe> rmustacc: git's idea of sameness for rename detection does poorly when things are mostly license header.[00:51:30] <richlowe> there's some option to tweak that, but I don't remember it.[00:51:32] <richlowe> and bdha probably told me[00:51:35] <richlowe> and rjbs probably told him.[00:51:38] *** Riastradh <Riastradh!~riastradh@netbsd/developer/riastradh> has joined #illumos[00:52:12] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 7098 ::prtconf could filter by attached driver name -- Robert Mustacchi <rm at joyent dot com>[00:53:00] <nahamu> It also may have gotten slightly better in a recent release.[00:54:29] <nahamu> I think I figured out all the changes I'd stashed but not committed...[00:54:35] <nahamu> gah, wrong channel[00:56:04] <bdha> rmustacc: Oh, if you want list power, you can have list power...[00:56:05] *** Gamlor <Gamlor!~Instantbi@222.233.98.91> has joined #illumos[00:57:47] <rmustacc> I think I'm fine for the moment.[00:58:12] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@90.219.225.136> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js)[00:58:17] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 7194 Reservation tests do not properly calculate reservation size -- John Wren Kennedy <john.kennedy at delphix dot com>[00:59:25] <rmustacc> So, not sure what to really do about those usbgem bits.[01:13:43] <npx> https://github.com/hypoalex/mininode/blob/master/src/modules/fs/methods/access.c#L24 - I blame LeftWing for this. I need to wire up proper JS stack traces, but I want this to return JS Error objects with fileName and lineNumber set even for C functions (maybe #ifdef'd). I can also return better errors, Node returns TypeError: callback must be a function with fs.access(nargs < 2).[01:14:56] <npx> Maybe V8 is almost as fast as C, but C is definitely as fast as C :)[01:16:39] <npx> should probably "F_OK | R_OK" and "(nargs < 2 || nargs > 3)" but you get the idea[01:17:48] <LeftWing> bdha: Did we lose the [developer] subject tag from the mailing list configuration?[01:18:31] <richlowe> bdha: It was held for moderator approval because of policy 'sender.admin'. (member richlowe at richlowe dot net is a listowner)[01:18:37] <richlowe> you're moderating me _because_ I'm cool?[01:19:31] <rmustacc> Well, your reply got to me before my mail did Rich.[01:20:25] <richlowe> rmustacc: I think rdseed/avx look fine too[01:20:33] <rmustacc> Mind saying so on there?[01:20:48] <richlowe> the moment bdha fixes it, sure.[01:21:17] <richlowe> rmustacc: now, what's this usb stuff?[01:21:32] <rmustacc> I mentioned the thread to you just now?[01:21:42] <chromatin> Speaking of usb, I need to do some minor work on the usba driver. What’s my best bet for setting up a complete development system with respect to ease of upstreaming a patch? OI ?[01:22:03] <richlowe> rmustacc: missed that, sorry.[01:22:09] <rmustacc> richlowe: No worries.[01:22:18] <rmustacc> chromatin: Omni or OI are pretty smooth these days.[01:22:46] <chromatin> rmustacc: Thanks.[01:23:38] <rmustacc> I unfortunately know far more about usba than when we last talked about that.[01:24:32] <chromatin> *ha* Yes, I think I’ve read about this on the list[01:25:40] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@64.94.31.206> has joined #illumos[01:28:22] *** rmesta <rmesta!~rmesta@cpe-70-114-131-66.austin.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[01:39:59] <rmustacc> richlowe: Do I need to add anything to our brands for secflags?[01:41:46] <bdha> LeftWing: I think I screwed it up with shared settings somehow, but no idea how, yet.[01:42:47] <bdha> It looks like [[LISTNAME]] should still be prefixed.[01:44:40] <rmustacc> Did a whole batch of mail just get approved or was that my end?[01:45:31] <bdha> I released them. I still can't find the damn setting to fix this. :\[01:45:39] <bdha> I need to get the kids to bed, and will screw with it more after.[01:45:45] <richlowe> rmustacc: I don't think so. Did I add anything to native, etc?[01:45:51] <rmustacc> richlowe: Dunno.[01:46:12] <rmustacc> bdha: Ah, gotcha.[01:46:25] <bdha> Part of the problem is rm at joyent dot com isn't subscribed, I think.[01:46:35] <rmustacc> It's an approved alternate sender.[01:46:39] <bdha> But this shared list thing is the bigger problem. (And presumably my fault.)[01:46:42] <richlowe> yeah, and it made me moderate me, too.[01:46:46] <bdha> Gotta go. Kids.[01:47:49] <rmustacc> See ya bdha.[02:02:04] *** pmooney_ <pmooney_!~pmooney@2001:470:1f11:836:48cc:30d:7acd:f707> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[02:17:23] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@117.81.195.176> has joined #illumos[02:30:48] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has joined #illumos[02:32:15] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@64.94.31.206> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[02:35:30] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[02:50:01] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has joined #illumos[02:53:41] <rmustacc> richlowe: Mind looking at the broadwell stuff again, jbk pointed out I forgot the dis bits.[02:54:15] <jbk> you did make sure i didn't miss it, right?[02:54:31] <jbk> i've been going nuts at work, so my brain is half-fried right now[02:55:27] <rmustacc> jbk: I did.[02:55:45] <rmustacc> I did it as two separate things at Joyent.[02:55:50] <rmustacc> Which I hadn't realized.[02:55:57] <rmustacc> So I just kind of assumed it was there already.[02:55:58] <rmustacc> Oops.[02:59:15] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p5B370F99.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[03:02:56] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p5B371139.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[03:04:04] <jbk> ahh ok[03:04:51] <rmustacc> I'll need to remember that as it's probably going to be that way with the AVX512 prototype gear.[03:05:54] <rmustacc> As doubling the size of those registers yet again is going to be fun.[03:06:44] <bdha> I found the problem, I think, with the lists. Don't know how to fix it. Will bug people.[03:06:55] <rmustacc> Thanks for the update bdha.[03:20:01] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:20:07] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[03:43:00] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@208.184.5.170> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[03:48:07] *** snuff-work <snuff-work!~snuff-wor@203.87.61.22> has joined #illumos[03:59:02] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[03:59:12] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[04:00:03] *** Riastradh <Riastradh!~riastradh@netbsd/developer/riastradh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:02:40] *** BugeyeD <BugeyeD!~BugeyeD@unaffiliated/bugeyed> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[04:03:39] *** BugeyeD <BugeyeD!~BugeyeD@unaffiliated/bugeyed> has joined #illumos[04:15:14] *** BugeyeD <BugeyeD!~BugeyeD@unaffiliated/bugeyed> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[04:21:03] *** happy-dude <happy-dude!uid62780@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dpeeyegrflbabykc> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[04:25:08] *** BugeyeD <BugeyeD!~BugeyeD@unaffiliated/bugeyed> has joined #illumos[04:33:59] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@75-54-22-158.lightspeed.snbuca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[04:41:53] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has joined #illumos[04:44:51] *** klynton <klynton!uid20683@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ytqgtanudhfuzmrt> has joined #illumos[05:00:19] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #illumos[05:07:52] *** livelace <livelace!~livelace@46.101.54.207> has joined #illumos[05:09:48] *** BugeyeD <BugeyeD!~BugeyeD@unaffiliated/bugeyed> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[05:16:39] *** livelace <livelace!~livelace@46.101.54.207> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[05:18:02] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:25:36] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has joined #illumos[05:30:11] *** kerberizer <kerberizer!~luchesar@wikipedia/Iliev> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:31:22] *** BugeyeD <BugeyeD!~BugeyeD@unaffiliated/bugeyed> has joined #illumos[05:35:22] *** kerberizer <kerberizer!~luchesar@wikipedia/Iliev> has joined #illumos[05:43:20] *** chromatin <chromatin!~chromatin@d149-67-249-75.try.wideopenwest.com> has quit IRC (Quit: chromatin)[05:55:55] *** Riastradh <Riastradh!~riastradh@netbsd/developer/riastradh> has joined #illumos[06:08:13] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[06:19:03] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[06:30:57] *** Riastradh <Riastradh!~riastradh@netbsd/developer/riastradh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[06:41:04] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@c-65-96-193-9.hsd1.vt.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:41:27] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has joined #illumos[06:44:00] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:45:54] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[06:58:02] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has joined #illumos[07:35:04] *** jfqd <jfqd!~Adium@pD95D6748.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[07:55:09] *** Gamlor <Gamlor!~Instantbi@222.233.98.91> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[07:56:39] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@141.255.254.208> has joined #illumos[08:36:54] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #illumos[08:37:34] *** Hedonisto <Hedonisto!~obey_juan@unaffiliated/hedonisto> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:42:46] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Some of these API calls have really clear intent, like if you're creating an http.Server() instance then we have some idea what's going on and how to make it not suck. 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:)[17:11:04] <rmustacc> What's going wrong?[17:12:05] <leoric> I receive errors like ld: fatal: relocation error: R_386_GOTOFF: file ../../js/src/Unified_cpp_js_src11.o: symbol vtable for JS::CustomAutoRooter: a GOT relative relocation must reference a local symbol[17:12:40] <rmustacc> Hmm, that seems like the kind of thing richlowe loves to see.[17:13:09] <leoric> I know, but I doubt I can create a small reproducer from this[17:14:07] <leoric> so far we were using gnu ld to link libxul.so for half a year for FF, now I see the same error in TB[17:14:24] <rmustacc> Bundle up all the object files and attach them to a bug?[17:14:35] <rmustacc> Well, everything that's part of the link inupt.[17:15:06] <igork> anybody remember - how to say to SMF do not create backup of db in /etc/ and use it as is on live image?[17:15:21] <igork> maybe some additional flag in services?[17:15:29] <igork> or filestamp[17:17:24] *** ntz <ntz!~jdoe@static-84-42-228-122.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[17:25:32] *** Riastradh <Riastradh!~riastradh@netbsd/developer/riastradh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[17:25:37] <richlowe> leoric: github.com/richlowe/bugger-ld[17:25:39] <tsoome> .oO assumption is mother of all…[17:25:46] <richlowe> leoric: "small" reproduction[17:25:56] <richlowe> (it does what rmustacc says, only largely automatically)[17:27:26] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:28:26] <richlowe> also, is he source attempting to use the symbol visibility attributes, and failing to?[17:28:36] <richlowe> iirc that was the common thing.[17:28:42] <leoric> it was[17:29:31] <leoric> I don't exactly understand if this issue is related to visibility=hidden...[17:29:35] <trisk> leoric: alp ran into a possibly related issue linking libxul a while back. http://openindiana.org/pipermail/oi-dev/2013-December/002962.html[17:29:56] <richlowe> and that does indeed involve the visibility attributes.[17:30:48] <leoric> trisk: I know, I encounter it almost every time on major TB/FF update[17:31:05] <igork> trisk: alp=leoric :)[17:31:23] <trisk> oh right, sorry :([17:32:03] <igork> when alp on vacation - leoric is do OI job :)[17:32:16] <richlowe> I would imagine SunC doesn't hit it, because autoconf believes they don't support the attributes.[17:32:17] <richlowe> fwiw.[17:33:05] <richlowe> or because like a bunch of things, they "support" them by ignoring them.[17:33:12] <richlowe> either way would probably get you out of that mess.[17:34:55] <leoric> richlowe: I suppose you don't want to see all libxul binaries ? 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I've heard things got better after 0.4 but did not try that yet[21:04:25] <mayuresh> yeah, it's kind-a theoretically cool, but the implementation sucks big time because of dependencies like "fuse".[21:05:02] <mayuresh> i am still self-training to become a systems programmer with a leaning towards "illumos".[21:06:10] <mayuresh> maybe, once i am ready, and confident, i'll take up the task of developing a from-scratch implementation of "ipfs".[21:06:56] <jbk> did anything ever happen w/ gwr's fuse work?[21:07:17] <richlowe> nope[21:07:19] <richlowe> that I know of.[21:12:37] <mayuresh> does illumos have any roadmap? or are projects initiated as the need crops up or someone has an itch to scratch. :-)[21:12:53] <jbk> it's basically whatever anyone wants to work on[21:13:10] <nahamu> different companies have their own roadmaps.[21:13:18] <nahamu> and there's a bunch of organization around ZFS.[21:13:24] <Toasterson> isnt there a list in the wiki with things that are on a more backburner[21:13:27] <mayuresh> okay[21:14:35] <nahamu> so part of the illumos roadmap is the upstreaming of features from downstream distros...[21:14:41] <mayuresh> just one critical question (personal), is illumos going to stay steady with K&R C?[21:14:58] <mayuresh> or there are already projects moving over to C99 and C11?[21:15:05] <LeftWing> The kernel is all C99.[21:15:14] <mayuresh> okay[21:16:31] <richlowe> we have almost no K&R C[21:16:57] <richlowe> we have code that uses K&R prototypes (and should be updated!), but I'm near certain a K&R compiler would choke on it.[21:17:00] <richlowe> C89 at the oldest[21:17:08] <Toasterson> there it is project ideas and possible mentors http://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/Project+Ideas[21:17:21] <richlowe> updating stuff to C99 is either trivial or _really_ hard.[21:17:32] <richlowe> but in a lot of cases there's no upside, really.[21:17:36] <richlowe> no matter what jeffpc says :)[21:18:38] <mayuresh> :)[21:20:51] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[21:20:54] <mayuresh> richlowe; any suggestions for a book on C99? my learning will be happening with K&R C (2nd edition of the book by them).[21:24:50] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 7201 wscons background and foreground white should agree on shade -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[21:27:00] <tsoome> thanks:)[21:27:02] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has joined #illumos[21:30:07] *** mayuresh <mayuresh!~mayuresh@182.58.211.181> has quit IRC (Quit: mayuresh)[21:32:30] *** potatosalad <potatosalad!~potatosal@69.20.161.247> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[21:32:59] *** catalinbostan <catalinbostan!~textual@81.196.186.56> has joined #illumos[21:33:01] *** catalinbostan <catalinbostan!~textual@81.196.186.56> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:33:16] *** catalinbostan <catalinbostan!~textual@81.196.186.56> has joined #illumos[21:38:06] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@84.52.116.107> has joined #illumos[21:38:14] <leoric> richlowe: http://buildzone.oi-build.r61.net/objects/[21:39:02] <leoric> there are object files[21:46:00] *** beatus_ is now known as beatus[21:46:34] *** psychicist__ <psychicist__!~psychicis@89.101.141.193> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[21:52:12] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@84.52.116.107> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:07:10] *** dap_ <dap_!~dap@208.184.5.170> has joined #illumos[22:09:22] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[22:10:38] *** robinbb <robinbb!~robinbb@fctnnbsc38w-207179184109.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net> has joined #illumos[22:14:11] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has quit IRC (Quit: matejz)[22:15:02] *** jfqd1 <jfqd1!~Adium@pD95D6748.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:20:06] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[22:20:15] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~Thunderbi@2a02:aa10:e100:4b00::2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:24:18] <richlowe> leoric: getting them now, not sure when I'll have time to look[22:24:20] <richlowe> leoric: Thanks[22:29:23] <xenol> will tell him once he awakes[22:35:01] *** catalinbostan <catalinbostan!~textual@81.196.186.56> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[22:36:30] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@109.121.62.251> has joined #illumos[22:45:46] *** klynton <klynton!uid20683@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qgzgnyckfxqkjecw> has joined #illumos[22:51:48] *** stoxx <stoxx!stoxx@kytkin.vipu.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[22:51:55] *** stoxx <stoxx!stoxx@kytkin.vipu.org> has joined #illumos[22:55:02] *** joltman <joltman!~znc@unaffiliated/joltman> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[22:55:22] *** joltman <joltman!~znc@unaffiliated/joltman> has joined #illumos[22:57:10] *** natkin <natkin!~natkin@cpe-70-117-102-168.austin.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[23:01:16] <robinbb> Unable to find a Youtube playlist for the old illumos Day 2012 conference, I made one myself. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFuqGVXaspCxzr-qihn2gw0dDjHu3TWXT[23:03:27] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@c-65-96-193-9.hsd1.vt.comcast.net> has joined #illumos[23:05:14] *** natkin <natkin!~natkin@cpe-70-117-102-168.austin.res.rr.com> has left #illumos[23:05:34] *** natkin <natkin!~natkin@cpe-70-117-102-168.austin.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[23:06:27] *** Kelzier_ <Kelzier_!~duka@109-121-35-82.adsl-a-7.sezampro.rs> has joined #illumos[23:09:21] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@109.121.62.251> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[23:12:51] *** ira <ira!ira@samba/team/ira> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[23:22:03] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[23:34:56] *** robinbb <robinbb!~robinbb@fctnnbsc38w-207179184109.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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