July 11, 2016 
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July 11, 2016 [00:00:02] *** DarkSoul <DarkSoul!~godofnigh@denrei.darkbsd.org> has joined #illumos[00:00:08] <igork> right now i tried upgrade buid with aslr installed[00:00:28] <igork> and i use tools from aslr installed env[00:00:33] <igork> like bootblk[00:02:42] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-178-150.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #illumos[00:03:05] <igork> we are using hsfs bootblk from booted system - not from new snapshot[00:03:10] <igork> for boot_archive[00:03:16] <igork> we need it on sparc[00:06:37] <igork> nope - i'm wrong - we are using bootblk from new system - if="/tmp/876//platform/sun4v/lib/fs/hsfs/bootblk"[00:06:52] <igork> it's mean - we have it with new build[00:07:26] <igork> we do:[00:07:26] <igork> /usr/bin/dd if="/tmp/876//platform/sun4v/lib/fs/hsfs/bootblk" of="/tmp/876//platform/sun4v/archive-new-13952" bs=1b oseek=1 count=15 conv=notrunc conv=sync[00:22:49] *** chromatin <chromatin!~chromatin@d149-67-249-75.try.wideopenwest.com> has quit IRC (Quit: chromatin)[00:23:17] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-178-150.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:27:27] <igork> richlowe: i can provide to you access to build zone and ldom where you can install it[00:28:03] <igork> if you want try to play with it[00:30:04] *** kovert <kovert!~kovert@saidin.omniscient.com> has joined #illumos[00:33:03] <igork> zfs bootblk broken on new my sparc builds now - need re-install it after upgrade from older iso[00:33:51] <igork> well, i'll re-setup build zone with build before aslr and produce new build and check it[00:44:46] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@90.219.225.136> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js)[00:46:30] <igork> richlowe: well, i just updated bootblk from bootable env -> re-create new boot_archive - and it is working[00:46:42] <igork> problem is - build incorrect bootblk[00:46:50] <igork> hsfs & zfs[00:46:57] <igork> probably ufs too[00:46:59] <richlowe> sure you don't have aslr active?[00:47:09] <igork> don't[00:47:14] <igork> all as default[00:47:15] <richlowe> I could see aslr interfering with a build process of stuff like that.[00:47:19] <igork> i didn't touch it[00:47:40] <igork> if you want - i can provide you access[00:48:10] <igork> i do jenkins build, but build env available[00:48:33] <igork> and we can reproduce manual build on env if needed[00:50:02] <igork> it's mean - we are producing good booblk by older ld - without aslr changes[00:50:18] <igork> before aslr i mean[01:02:29] <igork> richlowe: can we disable aslr for components where we are using fcode?[01:02:45] <igork> and how to disable it?[01:02:55] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@2001:470:1f11:836:1537:5044:9c6d:e681> has joined #illumos[01:03:07] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@2001:470:1f11:836:1537:5044:9c6d:e681> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:06:43] <richlowe> all "disabling" aslr does in ld is set a DT[01:06:57] <richlowe> you can do that with the -zaslr options, but I don't see why it'd help[01:07:04] <richlowe> you can turn it off during the builds with psecflags(1)[01:07:25] <igork> can you provide example?[01:07:30] <igork> i'd like to try[01:07:32] <richlowe> but you now have me worrying I broke the whole thing somehow :)[01:07:47] <igork> fcode is closed[01:08:03] <igork> we talked with tsoome[01:08:07] <richlowe> the bootblock stuff isn't.[01:08:11] <richlowe> forthdebug is[01:08:13] <richlowe> (was)[01:08:24] <igork> he recommded to try disable aslr with fcode build[01:08:40] <tsoome> yep[01:08:40] <richlowe> yeah, that makes sense[01:08:42] <richlowe> psecflags(1)[01:09:06] <richlowe> run psecflags $$ in your build env.[01:09:23] <richlowe> psecflags -s current,-aslr $$ will take aslr out of the inheritable flags[01:09:43] <igork> https://paste.ec/paste/NcbnJNt9#OaAi66o8n1G4b1YuxN6fC7+SPKkYAVmkNOZiLKt5+FJ[01:10:03] <richlowe> right, so aslr shouldn't be happening.[01:10:08] <richlowe> unless you have a binary tagged with DT_ASLR I guess.[01:10:17] <igork> huh[01:10:19] <richlowe> in which case it'll happen according to that tag[01:10:22] <igork> it;s mean - it disabled?[01:10:24] <richlowe> and I guess will then be inherited[01:10:29] <richlowe> it means it's disabled at that point[01:10:36] <richlowe> you should probably check by running the same binary twice, and checking with pmap :)[01:10:42] <richlowe> maybe I managed to break everything somehow.[01:10:54] <igork> well[01:11:14] <richlowe> but if you want to see if the fcode compiler has it enabled, catch it running and run psecflags <pid>[01:11:25] <tsoome> so, you can also try to build those fcode bootblk’s manually and see if the binaries differ compared to known good.[01:11:45] <igork> yes, it was my plan[01:12:17] <igork> i can rebuild only psc[01:12:19] <igork> psm[01:12:31] <igork> usr/src/psm/stand/bootblks[01:13:39] <tsoome> yep thats the tree[01:13:58] <richlowe> /usr/bin/cat &; pid=$! pmap $pid > $pid.out; kill $pid[01:14:00] <richlowe> diff -u *.out[01:14:06] <igork> well, will try take a look it tomorrow, i want to sleep[01:14:13] <richlowe> as far as making sure there's no randomization going on erroneously[01:14:19] <igork> ok[01:14:26] <richlowe> note that on sun4v the stack gets randomized anyway, because of the hilarious caching mistakes there[01:14:41] <igork> inzones too?[01:14:46] <richlowe> Yes.[01:15:01] <igork> i have sun4v[01:15:05] <igork> for builds[01:15:07] <richlowe> sun4v's shared cache means that otherwise if every process has the same stack base, the cache is basically useless for the stack.[01:15:16] <richlowe> so it was randomizing that _anyway_, so it actually didn't run like shit.[01:15:24] <richlowe> so that should happen, on 4v, regardless of aslr.[01:15:40] <igork> oh[01:23:38] <igork> richlowe - i think it is my problem with updates - i have moved illumos dd to /system/bin/dd, but we need it for bootblk builds[01:23:46] <igork> more and more dependencies to illumos tool[01:24:08] <igork> i'll try fix it and re-check result[01:24:28] <igork> sorry for disturb - i let you know result tomorrow[01:28:19] <tsoome> btw to use gnu dd, you need to update dd arguments in bootadm, gnu dd has slightly different syntax.[01:28:34] <igork> tsoome: i know about it :)[01:28:41] <igork> i have fixed it today[01:29:02] <igork> and still use illumos dd, but from /system/bin/dd[01:29:44] <igork> and need update some scripts in build to be failed if some tools failed in scripts[01:29:57] <igork> need to check exit level of execution[01:30:24] <igork> and build will be failed if external tool execution will be failed[01:30:35] <igork> but right now we have more hidden fails[01:32:32] <igork> GNU ld don't know oseek=1[01:37:27] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@233-7-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:39:13] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@233-7-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #illumos[01:39:48] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[01:51:46] *** jelmd_ <jelmd_!~jelmd@p548C117C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[01:52:13] *** jelmd <jelmd!~jelmd@p548C0382.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:52:13] *** jelmd_ is now known as jelmd[01:52:32] <dillona> How do you apply the patch file generated by webrev?[01:53:00] <igork> patch -p1 < <patch.file>[01:53:07] <dillona> patch < illumos-gate.patch prompts the user for the path to patch[01:54:02] <dillona> Thank you igork[01:58:42] *** chromatin <chromatin!~chromatin@d149-67-249-75.try.wideopenwest.com> has joined #illumos[01:58:46] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.85.182> has joined #illumos[02:03:13] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.85.182> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[02:10:35] *** Qatz <Qatz!~DB@2601:187:8400:5::427> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[02:18:12] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@117.82.66.96> has joined #illumos[02:32:03] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@2602:304:b361:69e0:44a8:b7e2:de95:a99c> has joined #illumos[02:53:47] 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*** shyu <shyu!~Frank@180.173.41.181> has joined #illumos[04:20:59] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #illumos[04:38:23] *** wacki <wacki!~andreas@p20030045465B7E0042A8F0FFFE63E17C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[04:44:59] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:55:27] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #illumos[05:10:40] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 7156 i40e dmod shouldn't build on SPARC -- Robert Mustacchi <rm at joyent dot com>[05:18:27] *** openzfsslackbot <openzfsslackbot!~nobody@ec2-52-23-198-104.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:19:44] *** openzfsslackbot <openzfsslackbot!~nobody@ec2-52-23-198-104.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #illumos[05:24:17] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #illumos[05:31:07] *** Gamlor <Gamlor!~Instantbi@222.233.98.91> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[05:40:09] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@c-65-96-193-9.hsd1.vt.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[05:53:58] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[05:57:44] *** xenol <xenol!~xenol@2a01:8c00:ff48:56df::8f78> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[06:03:38] *** ericray <ericray!~ejray@c-76-25-145-48.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ericray)[06:20:27] *** shyu_ <shyu_!~Frank@180.173.41.181> has joined #illumos[06:20:40] *** shyu <shyu!~Frank@180.173.41.181> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:20:41] *** Gamlor <Gamlor!~Instantbi@222.233.98.91> has joined #illumos[06:24:43] *** Gamlor <Gamlor!~Instantbi@222.233.98.91> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:32:41] *** Gamlor <Gamlor!~Instantbi@222.233.98.91> has joined #illumos[07:11:17] <npx> I'm taking the speed of built-in module loading to a kinda pathological place with gperf hahah https://github.com/hypoalex/mininode/blob/master/src/mininode.c#L148-#l171 - I'm bizarrely proud of that although I can't take much credit for how awesome gperf is.[07:22:37] <npx> The next Jason Bourne movie is all about using gperf.[07:24:49] *** chromatin <chromatin!~chromatin@d149-67-249-75.try.wideopenwest.com> has quit IRC (Quit: chromatin)[07:24:57] *** jelmd_ <jelmd_!~jelmd@p548C11E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[07:27:02] *** jelmd <jelmd!~jelmd@p548C117C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[07:27:02] *** jelmd_ is now known as jelmd[07:38:24] *** keremet <keremet!~keremet3@91.144.151.204> has joined #illumos[07:55:39] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[07:57:53] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has joined #illumos[07:58:20] *** xenol <xenol!~xenol@2a01:8c00:ff48:56df::8f78> has joined #illumos[08:07:51] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 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handle absolute paths, .json files, or any of that yet. It won't handle .node files at all.)[08:43:13] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@234-10-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[08:46:03] *** KermitTheFragger <KermitTheFragger!~KermitThe@gateway.serviceplanet.nl> has joined #illumos[08:50:10] *** adulteratedjedi <adulteratedjedi!uid95422@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-axtrggvznzkmkhgy> has joined #illumos[09:18:19] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:19:29] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has joined #illumos[09:32:03] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:34:31] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has joined #illumos[09:44:52] *** joltman <joltman!~znc@unaffiliated/joltman> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:52:33] *** joltman <joltman!~znc@unaffiliated/joltman> has joined #illumos[09:53:34] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.242.35> has joined #illumos[09:58:49] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~Thunderbi@83.150.30.68> 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<Toasterson!~Thunderbi@83.150.30.68> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:23:19] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has joined #illumos[11:25:37] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.242.35> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:25:53] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.242.35> has joined #illumos[11:30:09] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.242.35> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:31:39] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.242.35> has joined #illumos[11:37:03] *** Gamlor <Gamlor!~Instantbi@222.233.98.91> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:38:20] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.242.35> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[11:46:28] *** liuzhen_ <liuzhen_!~liuzhen@218.241.172.114> has joined #illumos[11:46:33] *** liuzhen <liuzhen!~liuzhen@218.241.172.114> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:48:16] <estibi> hi[11:48:44] <estibi> "/usr/lib/dtrace/scsi.d", line 46: translator member ic_len definition uses incompatible types: "uint64_t" = "cred_t *"[11:49:18] <estibi> this was already fixed, anyone know when?[11:58:02] *** liuzhen_ <liuzhen_!~liuzhen@218.241.172.114> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[12:08:36] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@92.60.189.225> has joined #illumos[12:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:20:07] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[12:29:04] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@121.238.253.100> has joined #illumos[12:32:43] *** jelmd <jelmd!~jelmd@p548C11E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[12:39:46] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~Thunderbi@83.150.30.68> has joined #illumos[12:40:59] <estibi> hmm, some packages are out of date (this is after some old nightly update)[12:53:35] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has joined #illumos[12:58:22] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:58:42] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC 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has joined #illumos[16:10:16] <tsoome> .oO those tiny bugs… look around a bit, and you see them here and there..[16:10:57] <estibi> tsoome: my system/library package can't be updated :([16:11:20] *** keremet <keremet!~keremet3@91.144.151.204> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:11:27] <tsoome> I was just about to hint — you need to update to /hipster-2015 first[16:11:35] <tsoome> or something like that[16:11:41] <estibi> well[16:11:44] <igork> it is why i like deb packages on dev system - i can update all what i need :)[16:12:07] <tsoome> yea, and how do you know what your *system* needs?[16:12:24] <igork> it say to me every time :)[16:12:25] *** chromatin <chromatin!~chromatin@d149-67-249-75.try.wideopenwest.com> has quit IRC (Quit: chromatin)[16:12:36] <igork> i need - this one, another one, etc ;)[16:12:45] <tsoome> it did say to estibi as well. loud and clear;)[16:12:50] <estibi> Today I created ON build on hipster for an old oi_151a8, but I can't update because it needs libxml in 5.11-2015 version.[16:12:51] <igork> :)[16:12:56] <tsoome> in fact, it was insisting;)[16:14:01] <estibi> so my build host created a deps agains itself[16:14:37] <estibi> but I really need that for oi_151a8 version :/[16:15:23] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #illumos[16:16:52] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-178-150.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #illumos[16:17:11] <tsoome> I think you can specify version with update[16:17:39] <tsoome> altho, with onu it may be a bit complicated…[16:18:26] <estibi> tsoome: something like pkg install -n system/library at 0 dot 5.11,5.11-0.151.1.8:20130904T110927Z[16:19:00] <estibi> yes I did that[16:19:03] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:21:12] *** carlomagno1 <carlomagno1!~cmagno@inet-hqmc07-o.oracle.com> has joined #illumos[16:21:13] *** carlomagno <carlomagno!~cmagno@inet-hqmc06-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:24:22] <tsoome> I guess you need to poke alp or someone who knows ips better[16:28:06] <tsoome> um, build on hipster for old a8.. im not even sure if the build system supports such approach.[16:28:21] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@2001:470:1f11:836:1537:5044:9c6d:e681> has joined #illumos[16:28:55] <Toasterson> You would nned to run pkgdepend on a8 AFAIK[16:29:00] <Toasterson> *need[16:30:14] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.85.182> has joined #illumos[16:30:39] <tsoome> i would suspect something like that..[16:32:04] <tsoome> good old sun did not had code reviews internally?:P[16:32:22] <richlowe> estibi: if you need it for an old version, your choices are bleak[16:32:25] <richlowe> pretty much build on the old version.[16:33:45] <estibi> richlowe: can't I force build to make a packages deps in the same old version as ONNV_BUILDNUM ?[16:34:33] <tsoome> and old versions have hard time to build recent gate, because time has been passing on and things have changed;)[16:35:51] <richlowe> estibi: you can disable dependency generation, but it won't work, because you'll just be making the dependencies lie.[16:35:56] <richlowe> well, you'll be making the absent.[16:36:03] <richlowe> but you'll still have built against things newer than you're trying to run[16:36:08] <richlowe> it'll just probably install, and then not work[16:37:31] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[16:39:29] <tsoome> joys of keeping alive outdated and unsupported os instances:P[16:41:05] <estibi> tsoome: not my toys anymore[16:41:35] <tsoome> :)[16:42:28] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:43:11] <estibi> but the ZFS fragmentation is killing them slowly, and they need to work[16:43:37] <tsoome> too many snapshots?[16:43:43] <estibi> too many data[16:44:10] <tsoome> filled up pool, that is?[16:44:17] <estibi> yes[16:44:21] <tsoome> aye[16:45:03] *** Gamlor <Gamlor!~Instantbi@222.233.98.91> has quit 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failed.”, and then “mptsas_ioc_task_management failed try to reset ioc to recovery”[17:25:40] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@209.141.39.33> has joined #illumos[17:25:40] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@209.141.39.33> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:25:40] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has joined #illumos[17:25:59] <tsoome> are you using cfgadm to release the disk before removal??[17:26:41] <danvatca> tsoome: no, I did try with SAS drives, and this was not needed[17:26:51] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[17:27:02] <danvatca> the SAS drives were attached to the same controller[17:27:28] <danvatca> and if if do the same unplug/plug/unplug with SAS drives, it works properly[17:27:35] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has joined #illumos[17:27:49] <danvatca> when I try to do the same with SATA, I end up in this situation[17:28:39] *** esoel_ <esoel_!~esoel_@194.168.210.162> has joined #illumos[17:28:43] <danvatca> tsoome: you mean something like this: https://blogs.oracle.com/sa/entry/hotplugging_sata_drives ?[17:28:43] <tsoome> well, I don’t know the details from the software stack, and it may be the cfgadm -c unconfigure is NOP there, just thats the “official” procedure to prepare disk for hot removal;)[17:29:02] <tsoome> yes[17:29:18] <tsoome> its also listed somewhere in solaris admin docs.[17:29:53] <danvatca> Will try this now. The thing that I fail to understand is why it works the first time (after reboot)[17:30:16] <tsoome> it may be just luck, it may be some bug biting you.[17:30:51] <danvatca> Luck is not :) otherwise it would have worked evey time :)[17:31:16] <tsoome> that part of the system has been quite quiet afaik, so it can easily be some soft of bug having an bite on you[17:32:32] <danvatca> I have a strong feeling that this is a bug. Will also send an email to the list on this …[17:33:11] <tsoome> have seen fc luns not getting hot removed or hot added on unpatched solaris 10 systems, when it was supposed to be fully supported to be added/removed…[17:34:00] <tsoome> we had some fun with migrating disk arrays;)[17:34:34] <danvatca> tsoome: I can feel the pain ;)[17:34:43] <jbk> heh[17:34:47] <jbk> fc has always been a pain[17:35:01] <tsoome> na, it was not too bad, just as usual, most systems were ok, and then you have those few… :D[17:35:26] *** KermitTheFragger <KermitTheFragger!~KermitThe@gateway.serviceplanet.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:35:33] *** pmooney_ <pmooney_!~pmooney@2001:470:1f11:836:1537:5044:9c6d:e681> has joined #illumos[17:35:50] <danvatca> So why assume SATA is more reliable :D ?[17:35:53] <tsoome> windows guys had more fun with building complete new windows clusters from scratch and migrating services;)[17:36:34] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@92.60.189.225> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:36:35] <jbk> well i disliked the whole notion of 'it's standard, but unlike say ethernet, we (storage vendors) will force you to consult a 200 page 8 point type certification matrix, and often require you not use the OS drivers, but external drives with their own fc stack'[17:37:20] <jbk> i mean imagine if when you bought an ethernet switch, you had to consult a list of 'approved' NICs that could be connected to it (or else the vendor won't even bother to look at your support calls)[17:37:21] <tsoome> jbk thats mostly history now;) but yes, it was quite pain[17:37:27] <nbjoerg> there are lots of bad things to be said about SATA. pain of OS support is not one of them[17:38:15] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@2001:470:1f11:836:1537:5044:9c6d:e681> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:38:34] <tsoome> also if you think actually how much issues are there because of bad ethernet setups…. maybe they should consult like 200 pages of matrixes before being allowed to touch the hardware;)[17:39:22] <nbjoerg> network setup has gone bad in recent years[17:39:33] <nbjoerg> all this crappy auto-config & streaming services[17:39:39] <nbjoerg> we are back in the IPX age[17:40:02] <nbjoerg> what's wrong with network applicances that don't even support simple cross-subnet operation?![17:40:10] * nbjoerg glares at windows scanner support[17:40:21] * nbjoerg glares at streaming servers[17:40:26] <tsoome> converged nets, core switches blacklisting your ports etc etc etc;)[17:41:12] <nbjoerg> yeah, I hate ISPs that enforce outgoing (!) port 25 bans[17:41:13] <nbjoerg> wtf[17:41:26] <tsoome> we had quite fun seeing how vmware was attempting to use “good” path and had no idea the core switch had it blacklisted[17:41:31] <nbjoerg> even parts of the german research network do that :([17:42:04] *** MilkmanDan <MilkmanDan!~dan@wilug/expat/MilkmanDan> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:42:28] *** pmooney_ is now known as pmooney[17:43:16] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[17:43:28] *** MilkmanDan <MilkmanDan!~dan@wilug/expat/MilkmanDan> has joined #illumos[17:43:40] *** anniz <anniz!~anniz@c83-250-15-118.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #illumos[17:44:54] <danvatca> tsoome: unconfiguring the device with cfgadm before unplugging works as expected[17:45:13] <tsoome> here you go:)[17:45:33] <danvatca> it would have been awesome to be able to just unplug the drive and have the system do the thing automatically as it does for SAS :)[17:46:52] <tsoome> in fact it is recommended procedure and thats why I have been suggesting it to use every time — better see cfgadm to fail than your kernel…[17:47:10] <danvatca> thank you tsoome[17:47:24] <tsoome> maybe storage people can tell more whats really behind those scenes...[17:49:03] <danvatca> will also try the list, maybe there are people there that have a better suggestion/option or maybe a patch :)[17:49:08] *** Riastradh 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it's just an /etc/system tunnable change for that behavior.[18:10:09] <tsoome> really? sigh:P[18:10:14] <tsoome> not another one:D[18:11:32] <rmustacc> We set it as the default, IIRc.[18:12:26] <rmustacc> With a classic Keith comment to boot.[18:12:27] <rmustacc> https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/blob/master/overlay/generic/etc/system#L136-L142[18:12:48] <richlowe> is this the SATA thing?[18:12:53] <rmustacc> Yeah[18:13:16] <richlowe> I asked Josh about that at one point, and I think he suggested the it not being the default probably had some basis in sanity in the non-smartos case[18:13:20] <richlowe> or I misunderstood him utterly.[18:13:30] <rmustacc> Could very well be true.[18:13:33] <richlowe> but I never like to let a day pass without slandering an aussie.[18:13:38] <tsoome> ou, well. so just make it default in sata module and have system file tunable for switching it off;)[18:14:30] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #illumos[18:14:58] <tsoome> I have always hated those filled up system files with suggestions from vendors and “somewhere from internet, so it must be true” etc etc:D[18:15:41] <richlowe> tsoome: that's why tunables are almost always a mistake[18:15:52] <richlowe> I think 90% of the smartos settings are things we should do by default[18:15:55] <richlowe> (strong ISS, non-exec stack, etc.)[18:16:05] <richlowe> secflags makes non-exec stack easier, but Dan said I couldn't do the ISS that way :([18:16:18] <xenol> ISS?[18:16:46] <richlowe> TCP initial sequence number generation.[18:16:57] <tsoome> richlowe: +1[18:16:57] <xenol> ah[18:19:38] <xenol> richlowe: well, is there a reason why we shouldn't set those as a default?[18:19:47] <richlowe> the reason long ago was fear it'd break stuff[18:20:27] <richlowe> I think now it'd just be a matter of going through and seeing what needed doing.[18:20:34] <richlowe> in the stack case, I'd probably make that a default soon after secflags landed.[18:20:47] <richlowe> (since then you can turn it off per-process if you really must)[18:22:44] <xenol> looking forward to your secflags commit[18:23:19] *** Riastradh <Riastradh!~riastradh@netbsd/developer/riastradh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:24:17] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto@apn-46-169-125-186.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #illumos[18:24:25] <richlowe> I'm not :)[18:25:51] <xenol> do you expect major breakage?[18:25:51] *** ericray <ericray!~ejray@73.95.138.9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:26:39] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[18:26:45] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.85.182> has quit IRC (Quit: tozhu)[18:27:34] <igork> richlowe: i have found my problem with bootblk - and it was not related to aslr - it related to gnu dd and flags[18:28:17] *** ericray <ericray!~ejray@73.95.139.81> has joined #illumos[18:28:52] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #illumos[18:29:41] <tsoome> hopefully confirmed once you have successful boot;)[18:29:45] <tsoome> hehe[18:36:28] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@2602:304:b361:69e0:44a8:b7e2:de95:a99c> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[18:37:57] *** ericray <ericray!~ejray@73.95.139.81> has quit IRC (Quit: ericray)[18:38:12] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:41:59] *** CME <CME!~CME@ip9234d04d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:43:03] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~Thunderbi@2a02:aa10:e101:3900:d27e:35ff:fe7f:1d72> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:43:40] *** CME <CME!~CME@ip9234d04d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #illumos[18:46:39] <igork> yeah - will see it after couple of hours[18:48:01] *** ira <ira!ira@samba/team/ira> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:49:22] *** Tenhi <Tenhi!~tenhi@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de> has joined #illumos[18:58:12] *** Tenhi <Tenhi!~tenhi@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de> has 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But I guess we can always manually transform it.[19:22:16] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has joined #illumos[19:22:42] <denk> wait, I found a file with prtconf info, just a moment...[19:23:12] *** ira <ira!~ira@samba/team/ira> has joined #illumos[19:23:21] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[19:23:48] <denk> http://witch.tambov.ru/~denis/prtconf.acer.txt - full info[19:24:25] *** izabera is now known as izabored[19:24:27] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@2001:470:1f11:836:1537:5044:9c6d:e681> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[19:24:48] <rmustacc> Okay, I'll see if I can get a look and figure out what driver we'll need to modify in a little bit.[19:25:19] <denk> thanks :)[19:25:55] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #illumos[19:26:12] <richlowe> rmustacc: pciex168c,34[19:26:22] <richlowe> which seems like either a newer arn, or newer _than_ arn[19:27:13] <rmustacc> denk: What driver 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