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[00:15:58] <rzezeski> Love the truss(1) story.
[00:38:27] <pmooney> and the cv_wait_stop anecdote
[00:38:50] <pmooney> The ownership for that comment is lost to Tonic
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[01:11:54] <npx> https://github.com/hypoalex/mininode/blob/master/src/mininode.c#L194 - This gives me faith! That's all really rough but I'm kinda starting to dig the idea. You can pass custom allocator functions to duk_create_heap, portableumem would be kinda neat. Once lib/internal and lib/util work, most of the JS portions of the mainline node stdlib should be easy to bring over.
[01:12:16] <npx> like I wouldn't want to rewrite the repl :(
[01:13:07] <npx> and instead of just including the JS src as a C string, it could maybe include the bytecode instead
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[01:21:11] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 7154 arn(7D) walks out of bounds when byteswapping the 4K eeprom -- Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>
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[02:20:43] <LeftWing> alanc: I love the contrast between Faulkner (noting that strace "is already used for some streams tracing thing") and the Linux people, HA HA LITERATURE REVIEW IS FOR CHUMPS IT'S GOING TO BE "strace"!
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[02:39:42] <jbk> at least strace is mostly usable
[02:40:30] <rzezeski> LeftWing: for real
[02:44:44] <richlowe> LeftWing: I'd imagine the streams tracing stands out more when you're literally at USL
[02:46:28] <jbk> heh.. has anyone actually use streams tracing in the past 20 years?
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[03:31:32] <thurloat> is there a way to get pkg to wipe out partial downloads?
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[03:39:24] * thurloat figured it out by deleting /var/pkg/publisher/*
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[03:57:15] <dillona> Any advice for dealing with *** Error code 2 (ignored) in my nightly.log
[03:57:40] <dillona> It seems to constitute a failure (in that nightly returns non-zero) but I don’t think anything is actually wrong with the source
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[04:10:17] <trisk> dillona: you'll have to hunt down the error earlier in the log (search for "error" or "warning"), since it's parallel dmake output
[04:11:48] <trisk> alternatively, use bldenv and do a serial incremental build
[04:14:00] <trisk> actually, I see "*** Error code 2 (ignored)" in the clean target, but that shouldn't cause nightly to return non-zero
[04:14:30] <trisk> anything in your mail_msg?
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[04:29:32] <dillona> Interesting. Looking at a few cases where it's happened the previous line is "rm: debug32/ is a directory"
[04:33:39] <npx> hahah for the record I do know how to write things other than getopt_long() stanzas but in the case of json(1) that's actually a little hairy
[04:33:57] <npx> I wrote it down on paper and I was like, uh...
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[04:52:50] <trisk> dillona: I see that as well, but in a successful nightly log
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[04:54:40] <trisk> /usr/bin/rm -f debug32/ ../intel/lint-libs/debug32/llib-l.ln /export/ws/illumos-gate/usr/src/uts/common/os/priv_const.c Nothing_to_remove
[04:55:12] <trisk> preceding lines put the subdir after "debug32/", e.g.: /usr/bin/rm -f debug32/ksslf
[04:55:58] <trisk> but this is the parent, usr/src/uts/intel, it appears
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[05:51:31] <trisk> yeah, the "llib-l.ln" is also the result of an substitution expression with an empty string
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[09:33:20] <sjorge> libumem holds the illumos malloc and co functions
[09:33:41] <tsoome> its one implementation.
[09:33:48] <tsoome> there are few others.
[09:34:40] <tsoome> libc, libmapmalloc, libsdmalloc, libmtmalloc
[09:35:04] <sjorge> oh... that's confusing
[09:35:09] <sjorge> (well technically openssl too xD)
[09:35:17] <sjorge> so how do I see which one is used?
[09:36:40] <tsoome> ldd
[09:36:45] <tsoome> or pldd
[09:37:54] <tsoome> but that will give only idea whats linked
[09:38:29] <sjorge> ack, that makes sense, but I guess libc will nearly always be linked
[09:40:04] <tsoome> yes, however, if you link wuth umem, its implementation is used instead. or if you preload umem.
[09:40:26] <sjorge> Oh so that can be changed on a running system?! neat also scary
[09:42:11] <lotheac> it's useful for debugging leaks for example
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[09:47:57] <sjorge> lotheac, how so? does one offer leak detection or something?
[09:48:43] <lotheac> sjorge: yeah, if you preload libumem and set UMEM_DEBUG appropriately, you gain ::findleaks in mdb for cores you take of that process
[09:49:17] <tsoome> https://blogs.oracle.com/dlutz/entry/memory_leak_detection_with_libumem
[09:49:23] <tsoome> as an example
[09:49:50] <sjorge> that awesome!
[09:49:51] <sjorge> *s
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[11:13:46] <modernpa1ifist> @6
[11:13:53] <modernpa1ifist> ^ignore
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[17:54:14] <richlowe> tsoome: I'll hopefully get to that lofi thing later
[17:54:27] <tsoome> thanks:)
[17:54:32] <rmustacc> richlowe: There are two of them there that I didn't touch as I had reviewed.
[17:54:41] <richlowe> rmustacc: which are they are?
[17:55:11] <richlowe> I'll get the other one too, presuming I find it :)
[17:55:31] <tsoome> second one is 7161, I guess:)
[17:55:44] <richlowe> k. I'll look at that too.
[17:56:48] <alp> can we switch illumos-gate python version to 2.7 and what should we do to achieve this? I see issues with consumers of old IPS, but it can be updated...
[17:57:22] <richlowe> same as we did for 2.4 -> 2.6, probably.
[17:57:47] <richlowe> which was support both for a little while
[17:57:57] <richlowe> (at the same time, iirc)
[17:58:34] <richlowe> though I'd imagine anyone sane already had a python2.7 available to them
[17:58:46] <rmustacc> Even my ancient build zones do (I think)
[17:58:47] <richlowe> the question would be whether they had the full set of modules
[17:59:04] <richlowe> I'm pretty sure I have 2.7, and it's /usr/bin/python even.
[17:59:07] <richlowe> and just have 2.6 around for ON
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[18:01:41] <alp> 2.6 is the default on OI, but this will be changed in couple of days. I've tested illumos-gate build with python 2.7 a year ago. The only issue - as we deliver both IPS versions (for 2.6 and 2.7), we have to deliver libbe-26 separately (now we do it for libbe-27)
[18:01:52] <igork> probably oi-dev a9 has no python2.7
[18:01:57] <alp> yes
[18:02:20] <richlowe> that's why I specified "sane people". :)
[18:02:25] <tsoome> hm. if efi_alloc_and_read() is supposed to return VT_EINVAL in case the label is not found, should failed ioctl(DKIOCGETEFI) result in VT_EINVAL as well? in current code it results with VT_ERROR (unknown error).
[18:02:33] <richlowe> though usually I then discover I'm not one, soon afterward.
[18:03:05] <tsoome> failed ioctl() in sense as Err#25 ENOTTY
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[18:04:21] <rmustacc> I would probably translate ENOTTY into VT_EINVAL yourself and not the producer. As there are lots of things you could ioctl that won't know aobut that.
[18:04:32] <rmustacc> As ENOTTY is the standardized I have no idea what you're talking about return value.
[18:05:10] <rmustacc> Unless that ioctl is specifically defined to return one of those codes and is different.
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[18:05:39] <tsoome> ye sorry, not ioctl return value, its errno code to indicate this ioctl() was not supported on this device.
[18:07:52] <tsoome> I guess VT_ERROR is still ok for this condition, I was ust a bit confused what they meant about “An EFI label was not found.”
[18:08:05] <rmustacc> Right, I'd expect errno to usually contain an errno.
[18:08:22] <rmustacc> If you want your own errors, you should generally define something as part of the struct.
[18:09:35] <tsoome> na, im fine with how it is:)
[18:10:38] <rmustacc> Well, it'd be pretty reasonable to have callers of that special case ENOTTY, imho.
[18:11:27] <richlowe> I'm not sure I'm understanding how it is.
[18:11:54] <richlowe> oh, libefi, etc.
[18:11:58] <tsoome> yep
[18:11:59] <richlowe> then I'm not caring how it is :)
[18:12:20] <richlowe> rmustacc: it's doing pretty much what you're suggesting it do, for some reason.
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[18:23:29] <richlowe> tsoome: tried reboot -e lately?
[18:23:37] <richlowe> (totally a loaded question.)
[18:23:46] <tsoome> um, no
[18:24:06] <richlowe> oh, it's just implemented crazily.
[18:24:10] <richlowe> it probably failed to work for the right reason
[18:24:14] <richlowe> I just want to punch people a lot now
[18:25:59] <richlowe> basically, -e only works when fastreboot will happen
[18:26:04] <richlowe> _but_ you reboot either way
[18:26:05] <tsoome> what kind of failure you got?
[18:26:29] <richlowe> so if fastreboot can't happen due to policy/queiesce/whatever, you still reboot, you just boot the active env instead.
[18:26:34] <richlowe> this is annoying.
[18:26:37] <tsoome> yep (void) fprintf(stderr, gettext("%s: -e only valid with -f\n")
[18:26:40] <richlowe> but I could see perhaps how it might have to be that way.
[18:28:34] <tsoome> the problem they have is, for temporary boot options for grub they build transient menu entry (to be removed on next multiuser entry), but to switch BE, you would need transient grub default...
[18:28:50] <richlowe> I don't mind that so much
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[18:29:35] <richlowe> it's the bit where it rebooted anyway that's annoying.
[18:30:00] <richlowe> I'd say that 'sudo reboot -e illumos_1756' should have left the system running and told me it couldn't.
[18:30:05] <richlowe> rather than rebooting but _not_ booting that env.
[18:31:22] <tsoome> thats one of the big “but”’s. the -e -f are checked, but system can refuse to fastboot anyhow when uadmin() was already issued
[18:31:53] <richlowe> right
[18:32:04] <richlowe> having excuses doesn't mean it doesn't suck.
[18:33:18] <tsoome> tbh, I think in such context -e should not be there in first place, admin must be able to switch BE and be sure it will be booted…
[18:36:06] <tsoome> but yea, in my case, since I only use grub for specific tests and loader is loading 2 modules (archive and its hash), I have no fastboot at all;)
[18:36:17] <richlowe> right, the behaviour I want is "do what I say", not allowing me to say things you can't do would work
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[19:39:29] <alanc> "Nobody trusts a well-dressed engineer" - http://www.pedersonfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Roger-Faulkner-4/#!/Obituary
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[19:41:58] <bdha> alanc: <3
[19:43:35] <nikolam> :,
[19:45:33] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 7141 divide by zero when string table entry size is zero -- Dillon Amburgey <dillona at dillona dot com>
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[20:26:59] <igork> alanc: +1 :)
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[21:58:16] <npx> So, I'm thinking about how to write the module loader for this mininode thing. https://github.com/hypoalex/mininode/blob/master/src/mininode.c#L36-#L47 - I'm not sure what data structure to use, I want some kinda O(1) associative array from, e.g., 'v8' -> dukopen_v8. I should use a hash table, yeah? Any preferred implementations? They all look kinda huge.
[22:01:15] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 7161 uefi reboot needs to use acpi_reset_system() if available -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[22:01:16] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 7167 lofi does mismanage size(9P) properties -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[22:02:30] <tsoome> thanks:)
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[23:16:21] <npx> file loading and setting up the JS stack is a bit tricky, like require.main === module needs to work right or there's not much point to the exercise. I think it needs a file loader function setup the stack correctly. Kinda offtopic, but Duktape + Illumos feels kinda right to me.
[23:21:20] <LeftWing> npx: I would start with libavl
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[23:25:09] <richlowe> also the default illumos answer, re: data structures
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