July 5, 2016 
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<baetheus_!~brandon@ns356732.ip-91-121-142.eu> has joined #illumos[06:24:29] *** perniciouscaffei <perniciouscaffei!~Perniciou@71-212-127-104.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[06:25:55] *** snuff-work <snuff-work!~blatus@203.87.61.22> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[06:26:31] *** snuff-work <snuff-work!~blatus@203.87.61.22> has joined #illumos[06:35:21] *** perniciouscaffei <perniciouscaffei!~Perniciou@71-212-127-104.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #illumos[06:37:26] *** aaro <aaro!~aaro@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:38:26] *** aaro <aaro!~aaro@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147> has joined #illumos[06:41:16] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has joined #illumos[06:46:37] <npx> https://github.com/hypoalex/json - I started doing json(1) in C with duktape but then I realized that I don't actually have any use for it[06:47:32] <npx> but this was part of a broader overall vision of using duktape.org in -gate and using it to parse, e.g., SMF config files[06:52:08] <npx> I wanted to do it in terms of fmemopen() and open_memstream() and have 'json -f file1 -f file2' be equivalent to `cat file1 file2 | json`, not sure offhand if it already works like that[06:52:28] <npx> but, like, OSX... y u no open_memstream?[07:01:38] *** jfqd1 <jfqd1!~Adium@pD95DC040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[07:10:36] <LeftWing> npx: I don't think we have that API either.[07:13:01] <LeftWing> Plus, if you just want to store files (e.g. SMF service bundles) in a JSON format, we already have a JSON parser in illumos-joyent that will create an nvlist from a JSON string: https://github.com/joyent/illumos-joyent/blob/master/usr/src/lib/varpd/files/common/libvarpd_files_json.c[07:13:15] <LeftWing> You don't need a Javascript interpreter to parse JSON.[07:14:13] <npx> I didn't realize that there was a json parser already there, I kinda thought it was overkill and a huge attack service to have a full fledged interpreter in pid1[07:14:24] <npx> but I also thought it would be kinda neat hahah[07:14:41] <LeftWing> Well, smf(5) is mostly outside of pid 1 anyway.[07:15:14] <LeftWing> init, in pid 1, svc.startd running. That's where much of the SMF heavy lifting is.[07:15:19] <LeftWing> *keeps svc.startd[07:15:28] <LeftWing> Also in svc.configd[07:15:39] <tsoome> init spawns SMF as part of “normal” inittab sprocessing:)[07:15:43] <LeftWing> Indeed.[07:16:41] *** tim-tang_ <tim-tang_!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has joined #illumos[07:17:31] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:18:50] <tsoome> also the libnvpair has json bits in it btw.[07:19:19] <LeftWing> Yes. I put them there! But that's to _emit_ JSON, not to parse it. Though we would like to eventually get the parser into the library as well, once we can figure out a good generic interface.[07:19:49] <tsoome> ;)[07:20:27] <LeftWing> It would be good to make a sufficiently generic interface that we could emit and parse JSON, and possibly other things (e.g. YAML), in a way that could be made a public interface.[07:22:33] *** bahamat_ <bahamat_!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:23:08] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #illumos[07:23:55] <tsoome> maybe some sort of pluggabple interface, so libnvlist does not have to know every other format.[07:25:49] <LeftWing> Yes, that would be the goal.[07:26:15] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has joined #illumos[07:26:19] <LeftWing> Well, it would be _a_ goal[07:26:58] <LeftWing> I would want the interface to not prevent that from happening, certainly. But my initial scope would be to provide a generic _consumer_ interface. We could add a _provider_ interface later, if the consumer interface was done generically enough.[07:27:03] *** tim-tang_ <tim-tang_!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:27:38] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~Thunderbi@83.150.30.68> has joined #illumos[07:32:29] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.85.182> has joined #illumos[07:42:47] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[07:43:28] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #illumos[07:44:52] *** keremet <keremet!~keremet3@91.144.151.204> has joined #illumos[07:47:23] *** wiedi <wiedi!~wiedi@67-157-255-130.dynamic.t-mont.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: ^C)[07:50:39] *** tim-tang_ <tim-tang_!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has joined #illumos[07:51:48] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[07:53:47] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~Thunderbi@83.150.30.68> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:54:34] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[07:59:33] <npx> http://duktape.org/ is ridiculously cool in any event! Aside from the FILE *stuff most of json(1) would end up looking almost like the JS implementation - http://wiki.duktape.org/HowtoIterateArray.html - and you could get fancier for -ga (streaming)[08:05:01] *** aaro <aaro!~aaro@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:06:11] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@141.255.254.208> has joined #illumos[08:06:43] *** aaro1 <aaro1!~aaro@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147> has joined #illumos[08:11:22] *** tim-tang_ <tim-tang_!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[08:12:07] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has joined #illumos[08:12:07] <LeftWing> If you're going to embed duktape, you could just _use_ the existing json.js code.[08:12:18] *** Agnar <Agnar!~olbohlen@eenfach.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[08:12:19] <LeftWing> You'd need to implement the Node APIs that it uses, but those are also partially JS.[08:12:55] *** tg2 <tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[08:13:23] *** Agnar <Agnar!~olbohlen@eenfach.de> has joined #illumos[08:15:58] *** tg2 <tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35> has joined #illumos[08:20:25] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@223-11-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[08:20:34] <npx> Yeah, there's already https://github.com/creationix/dukluv - if fs and vm were implemented that'd be pretty close to embedded node[08:24:53] *** tg2 <tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[08:30:59] *** tg2 <tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35> has joined #illumos[08:31:01] *** tim-tang_ <tim-tang_!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has joined #illumos[08:31:42] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[08:33:45] *** KermitTheFragger <KermitTheFragger!~KermitThe@gateway.serviceplanet.nl> has joined #illumos[08:47:31] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.85.182> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[08:54:55] *** livelace <livelace!~livelace@46.101.54.207> has joined #illumos[09:01:12] *** aaro1 <aaro1!~aaro@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[09:05:51] *** CVLTCMK0 <CVLTCMK0!~Ident@ool-18b894d6.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:09:19] *** Teknix <Teknix!~teknix@titanium.alloy.net> has joined #illumos[09:10:21] *** xinkeT <xinkeT!~teknix@titanium.alloy.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:14:06] *** CVLTCMK0 <CVLTCMK0!~Ident@ool-18b894d6.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #illumos[09:15:59] *** tsoome_ <tsoome_!~tsoome@223-11-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[09:17:46] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@223-11-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[09:17:46] *** tsoome_ is now known as tsoome[09:22:15] *** gwurr3 <gwurr3!~gwurr3@107.170.251.79> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:22:28] *** gwurr3 <gwurr3!~gwurr3@107.170.251.79> has joined #illumos[09:27:44] *** tim-tang_ <tim-tang_!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:28:17] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has joined #illumos[09:33:03] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@58.208.214.209> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[09:34:43] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.85.182> has joined #illumos[10:12:03] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@183-108-134-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:15:57] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:19:24] *** xsdfdfsa <xsdfdfsa!~x@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg> has joined #illumos[10:46:27] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~Thunderbi@83.150.30.68> has joined #illumos[10:48:48] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has joined #illumos[11:12:26] *** esoel_ <esoel_!~esoel_@194.168.210.162> has joined #illumos[11:15:17] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@58.209.20.118> has joined #illumos[11:23:30] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@90.219.225.136> has joined #illumos[11:37:08] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@user-94-45-58-138-1.skif.com.ua> has joined #illumos[11:50:38] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #illumos[11:54:12] *** jellydonut <jellydonut!~jelly@216.165.251.212.customer.cdi.no> has joined #illumos[11:55:45] *** perniciouscaffei <perniciouscaffei!~Perniciou@71-212-127-104.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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