June 30, 2016 
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June 30, 2016 [00:09:01] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has joined #illumos[00:17:31] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@pool-71-244-148-68.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:18:26] *** noons <noons!~noons@209.160.134.110> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[00:32:04] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@94.9.28.249> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js)[00:41:23] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~chatzilla@pool-108-52-4-99.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has left #illumos[00:54:29] *** cnb_ <cnb_!~cnb@pc-101-219-214-201.cm.vtr.net> has joined #illumos[00:55:36] *** CharlesN <CharlesN!~cnb@pc-101-219-214-201.cm.vtr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[00:57:03] *** cnb_ is now known as CharlesN[01:01:08] *** mmlb <mmlb!~mmlb@2601:589:c401:17e4:82e6:50ff:fe1e:a0fe> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:16:56] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@114.216.26.52> has joined #illumos[01:16:57] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@114.216.26.52> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:21:51] *** dlg_ is now known as dlg[01:25:40] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.85.73> has joined #illumos[01:30:19] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.85.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:33:38] *** rmesta <rmesta!~rmesta@cpe-70-114-131-66.austin.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[01:41:06] *** Gaston|Home <Gaston|Home!~quassel@rosie.office.tw.ly> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[01:42:12] *** Gaston|Home <Gaston|Home!~quassel@rosie.office.tw.ly> has joined #illumos[02:00:17] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.85.73> has joined #illumos[02:00:37] *** dlg_ <dlg_!~dlg@toy.eait.uq.edu.au> has joined #illumos[02:00:38] *** dlg <dlg!~dlg@toy.eait.uq.edu.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:11:02] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@50-93-248-179.fttp.usinternet.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[02:28:42] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@121.236.10.25> has joined #illumos[02:32:14] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[02:34:39] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #illumos[02:59:51] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p5B371055.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[03:00:06] *** jwit <jwit!~jwit@gw.introvert.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[03:01:02] *** happy-dude <happy-dude!uid62780@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jjosjlkvohktgdmy> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[03:02:06] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p5B370F9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[03:03:47] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.85.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[03:05:55] *** danmcd <danmcd!~danmcd@static-71-174-113-16.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: danmcd)[03:08:18] *** CharlesN <CharlesN!~cnb@pc-101-219-214-201.cm.vtr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:11:15] *** jwit <jwit!~jwit@gw.introvert.ca> has joined #illumos[03:11:58] *** mhicks <mhicks!~Adium@ip72-192-178-150.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[03:14:57] *** Guest71116 is now known as konobi[03:17:16] *** CharlesN <CharlesN!~cnb@pc-101-219-214-201.cm.vtr.net> has joined #illumos[03:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:20:07] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[03:23:55] *** Riastradh <Riastradh!~riastradh@jupiter.mumble.net> has joined #illumos[03:27:57] *** dlg_ is now known as dlg[03:38:33] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:40:34] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[03:41:29] *** k0nsl <k0nsl!~k0nsl@unaffiliated/k0nsl> has joined #illumos[03:48:30] *** CharlesN <CharlesN!~cnb@pc-101-219-214-201.cm.vtr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[03:50:47] *** CharlesN <CharlesN!~cnb@pc-101-219-214-201.cm.vtr.net> has joined #illumos[04:21:25] <dillona> Do I need to buy a ticket to Surge if I'm interested in going to Illumos Day[04:28:26] <rmustacc> daleg: Do you know the answer to ^?[04:28:47] <rmustacc> dillona: If you don't end up hearing from someone, damncd is probably the best person to contact.[04:29:12] <dillona> rmustacc: yeah that was kindof my assumption but I wasn't sure[04:29:29] <rmustacc> I don't know the answer, probably need to figure that out myself.[04:29:48] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@208.184.5.170> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[04:32:00] *** baojg <baojg!~baojg@107.170.0.159> has joined #illumos[04:32:20] <dillona> I know the early bird pricing ends tomorrow[04:32:31] <rmustacc> Uh oh.[04:32:39] <rmustacc> Then I guess I'll need to figure that out soon.[04:33:01] <dillona> I know that $500 isn't a lot compared to lots of other conferences. But I'm paying for it instead of my company so it's still important[04:36:06] <daleg_> dillona: typically, no[04:36:16] <dillona> Fascinating[04:36:31] <dillona> (To be honest this is not what I was expecting)[04:36:59] <daleg_> I'm not 100%, but I'll gladly check for you[04:37:11] <daleg_> never had to buy a ticket since I work at omniti[04:37:33] <daleg_> but I'm under the impression that surge isn't a pre-req[04:37:37] <dillona> I'd appreciate it if you could[04:37:49] <daleg_> in fact quite a few people come just for illumos day[04:38:38] *** daleg <daleg!~daleg@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:38:42] *** daleg_ is now known as daleg[04:40:50] <PMT> I believe the intent is "no", but I have not actually attended so far, so I am only going from memory.[04:42:24] <rmustacc> I spoke the year I went, so I don't remember.[04:44:47] <dillona> Seems like it could be a cool opportunity to meet folks[04:54:11] *** baojg <baojg!~baojg@107.170.0.159> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:13:21] *** richlowe <richlowe!~richlowe@2600:8806:2800:d00:e23f:a4ff:fe79:5bc3> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[05:13:50] <bdha> Last year a ticket was required for illumos day, but people grumped.[05:13:56] <bdha> The person you actually want to ask is xzilla.[05:13:59] <bdha> Or robert at omniti dot com.[05:21:15] *** baojg <baojg!~baojg@107.170.0.159> has joined #illumos[05:21:39] *** reqshark <reqshark!~reqshark@c-71-204-141-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Be back later ...)[05:22:47] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@75-54-22-158.lightspeed.snbuca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[05:25:37] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@c-65-96-193-9.hsd1.vt.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:26:46] *** ira <ira!~ira@samba/team/ira> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:35:54] *** kohju <kohju!~kohju@p204.net088.tokai.or.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[05:37:10] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[05:39:19] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #illumos[05:40:58] *** baojg <baojg!~baojg@107.170.0.159> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:46:04] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.157.214> has joined #illumos[05:49:46] *** kohju <kohju!~kohju@p204.net088.tokai.or.jp> has joined #illumos[05:50:29] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.157.214> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:59:37] *** dlg <dlg!~dlg@toy.eait.uq.edu.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:59:38] *** dlg_ <dlg_!~dlg@toy.eait.uq.edu.au> has joined #illumos[06:10:46] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.157.214> has joined #illumos[06:14:45] *** tim-tang_ <tim-tang_!~tim_tang@121.236.10.25> has joined #illumos[06:14:48] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@121.236.10.25> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[06:24:19] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.157.214> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:34:25] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.157.214> has joined #illumos[06:40:33] *** BugeyeD <BugeyeD!~BugeyeD@unaffiliated/bugeyed> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:47:50] *** zhaodx <zhaodx!~Thunderbi@119.39.65.33> has joined #illumos[06:47:57] *** zhaodx <zhaodx!~Thunderbi@119.39.65.33> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:52:32] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.157.214> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[06:54:41] *** mariusp <mariusp!~mariusp@89.136.157.123> has joined #illumos[06:56:26] *** BugeyeD <BugeyeD!~BugeyeD@unaffiliated/bugeyed> has joined #illumos[06:58:19] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.157.214> has joined #illumos[07:09:03] *** tim-tang_ <tim-tang_!~tim_tang@121.236.10.25> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[07:10:41] *** voxadam <voxadam!~adam@unaffiliated/voxadam> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:14:55] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@176.212.42.88> has joined #illumos[07:15:07] *** khalfella <khalfella!~khalfella@2606:a000:4002:f900:2182:eae4:b2a6:cfdd> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[07:16:24] *** khalfella <khalfella!~khalfella@2606:a000:4002:f900:f5fb:730d:1cd4:8b36> has joined #illumos[07:18:30] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@d5152645C.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Changing host)[07:18:30] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has joined #illumos[07:21:27] <sjorge> alanc, aah yeah I remeber that well... I think we been there twice haven't we... changing the uname :)[07:23:19] * sjorge should start pestering his $work to go to the next one once the dates are announced, I doubt they pay though[07:23:29] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.157.214> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[07:24:11] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@121.236.10.25> has joined #illumos[07:24:15] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.157.214> has joined #illumos[07:25:31] *** _Tenchi_ <_Tenchi_!~phil@207-255-68-080-dhcp.aoo.pa.atlanticbb.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[07:30:55] *** mariusp <mariusp!~mariusp@89.136.157.123> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:36:45] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@139.207.157.214> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[07:50:32] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@121.236.10.25> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[07:52:37] *** tim-tang <tim-tang!~tim_tang@121.236.10.25> has joined #illumos[07:59:53] *** jfqd 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<estibi> tsoome: it does not start from sector 0:[12:43:49] <Aram> but ::sysbp does soemthing different[12:43:55] <estibi> * Partition Tag Flags Sector Count Sector Mount Directory 0 2 00 16065 585858420 585874484[12:43:57] *** stiefkind <stiefkind!~ws@www.askr-yggdrasil.org> has joined #illumos[12:44:03] <Aram> or not?[12:45:12] <estibi> tsoome: this disk has a different cylinders number compared to the second drive in rpool[12:45:14] *** MerlinDMC <MerlinDMC!~merlin@irc.l0cal.net> has joined #illumos[12:45:56] <Aram> hmm, -n 80 seems to work[12:46:12] <Aram> but[12:46:12] <Aram> echo "runtime.mallocgc+0x13ac::bp -c '::echo HIT; :c'; :r" | GODEBUG=efence=1 mdb ./64bit.in 2>/dev/null | grep HIT |wc -l[12:46:16] <Aram> print 131[12:46:30] <tsoome> estibi: thats your vtoc, see fdisk -W - /dev/rdsk/c..p0[12:47:18] <Aram> are these breakpoints reliable when it comes to multithreaded programs?[12:47:23] *** ira <ira!~ira@samba/team/ira> has joined #illumos[12:49:01] *** dasjoe 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sun fire v240 - forgot about it :)[16:55:09] <igork> i have no others platforms in my hands ;)[16:55:39] <alanc> those T-series are more like 5-10 years old, but still not recent[16:55:48] <daleg_> dillona: was it you who asked me about Illumos Days at Surge this year?[16:55:58] <rmustacc> daleg_: It was.[16:56:16] <daleg_> ok, latest update is: no decision on holding it (yet)[16:56:40] <daleg_> I think a few options are being deliberated on[17:03:51] <jeffpc> who has any idea how our userspace headers work wrt C++?[17:04:10] <jeffpc> I want to make sure that what I'm seeing is a bug - and not my mistake[17:05:36] <jeffpc> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/386720/14672989/[17:06:47] *** mmlb <mmlb!~mmlb@104-1-4-155.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:07:18] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has quit IRC (Quit: matejz)[17:09:26] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has joined #illumos[17:12:22] *** mmlb 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would you like to port illumos to this platform? :)[18:35:43] *** mmlb <mmlb!~mmlb@104-1-4-155.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[18:38:47] *** mmlb <mmlb!~mmlb@104-1-4-155.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:43:25] *** mmlb <mmlb!~mmlb@104-1-4-155.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[18:46:18] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[18:47:03] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~Thunderbi@83.150.30.68> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:47:49] *** mmlb <mmlb!~mmlb@104-1-4-155.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:48:03] <jbk> jeffpc: could the 'using std::map' be the issue?[18:48:39] <jeffpc> IMO, including a header shouldn't make your compilation fail[18:48:54] <jeffpc> especially if you include something harmless like <map> and <whatever/ip.h>[18:49:38] *** mariusp <mariusp!~mariusp@89.136.157.123> has joined 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When I last tried the efi version it crashed and hung.[22:13:59] <rmustacc> On two different systems.[22:14:14] <rmustacc> At some point I'll need to work out a good plan for illumos support with them.[22:14:26] <rmustacc> Though realistically it'll probably have to be our own thing.[22:14:49] <daleg_> a module for fwflash(1M) perhaps?[22:14:50] <rmustacc> I'll have to track down the shared code updates, but there'll be some other reasons for doing that soonish anyways.[22:14:55] <rmustacc> In an ideal world, sure.[22:15:24] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xupttodvpsjqertk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[22:19:59] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@141-26-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #illumos[22:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:20:07] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[22:21:38] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@141-26-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:22:31] <igork> rmustacc: do you know - can i send to kvm vm nmi - for generate core dump?[22:22:50] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@141-26-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #illumos[22:22:56] *** livelace <livelace!~livelace@46.101.54.207> has joined #illumos[22:22:58] *** backjlack <backjlack!~q@unaffiliated/backjlack> has quit IRC (Quit: -)[22:23:15] <igork> with xen hvm/pv - i can do crash dump with domain[22:23:27] <rmustacc> I don't off hand, read docs?[22:23:34] <igork> tried to goole[22:23:43] <igork> but i have no found info[22:24:00] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has joined #illumos[22:24:02] <igork> i have VM in not response move[22:24:10] <igork> i can see it my vncviewer[22:24:16] <igork> but can't operate with it[22:24:33] <igork> vm stuck on zfs tests circle[22:24:43] <igork> and i wanted try to dump it[22:25:35] <rmustacc> Sorry, I really can't help you with generic KVM.[22:25:39] *** Meths <Meths!~meths@95.151.244.156> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:25:41] <igork> np[22:25:52] <rmustacc> If you were using SmartOS, then you could read the vmadm manual page and it would tell you exactly what to do.[22:25:55] <igork> it was just a question - maybe i had experinece with it[22:25:57] <rmustacc> But I presume you're not.[22:26:31] *** Meths <Meths!~meths@95.151.244.156> has joined #illumos[22:27:12] <igork> right now i use kvm vm on dilos with qemu from smartos - because i have problems with smartos and 3 kvm vms - in one time i could run only 2 and 3rd was failed on creation state[22:27:54] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wquehbmldwgvaurz> has joined #illumos[22:28:12] <rmustacc> Sure, doesn't really matter to me what you run[22:28:26] <igork> it was success from vmadm, but no kvm availabe and it's not started[22:28:32] <igork> ok[22:28:34] *** livelace <livelace!~livelace@46.101.54.207> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:28:49] <rmustacc> But if you look at the manual page it knows how to inject an nmi into qemu.[22:28:51] <rmustacc> So read code.[22:29:04] <rmustacc> Or even the QEMU docs.[22:29:25] <melloc> Haven't looked at the implementation, but here's a starting point: https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/blob/master/src/vm/sbin/vmadmd.js#L1677[22:31:03] <igork> interest[22:31:34] <igork> but - i started qemu in demon mode. well, need start it with access to inject code[22:32:50] <danmcd> Distro folks --> the $ORIGIN bug now has a blog entry from the discoverer: http://backtrace.io/blog/blog/2016/06/29/exploiting-elf-expansion-variables/[22:33:08] <danmcd> I've tweeted about it (distros I know have this patched, even if it's a rare exploit).[22:33:09] *** Meths <Meths!~meths@95.151.244.156> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:33:19] <LeftWing> Oh my god how hard is it to not capitalise the "OS" in illumos.[22:33:33] <danmcd> I'm mentioning this in case anyone makes FUD out of it -- there's no reason for Fear, Uncertainty, OR Doubt.[22:33:37] *** Meths <Meths!~meths@95.151.244.156> has joined #illumos[22:33:41] <danmcd> LeftWing: I dinged him on this already on twitter.[22:35:26] <danmcd> https://twitter.com/kebesays/status/748615745291042816 and more directly: https://twitter.com/kebesays/status/748614272914165760[22:35:38] <igork> danmcd: how you have fixed it?[22:35:46] <danmcd> It's in -gate![22:35:49] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has quit IRC (Quit: matejz)[22:35:50] <igork> ah[22:35:51] <igork> ok[22:35:53] <danmcd> Bug 6987[22:35:53] <rmustacc> This was fixed a while back.[22:35:56] <danmcd> Yep.[22:36:08] <danmcd> The researcher gave us time to get it out. Even asked me which OmniOS versions had the patch.[22:36:47] <danmcd> I figure hipster's spinning quickly enough to cover OI, and the appliance distros can handwave "warranty violation" in the short term if anyone is stupid enough to construct setid binaries like in the blog entry.[22:37:08] <igork> i have weekly updates[22:37:14] <igork> with dilos[22:38:30] <danmcd> So you're covered as well.[22:38:53] <igork> yes, and i try take a look aslr[22:39:05] <anniz> In other words you can fool the kernel into mapping a phony dynamic linker into memory, but only with executables that are using a relative dynamic linker path[22:39:06] <anniz> hahahhahaa[22:44:52] <anniz> some other "vulnerabilities": if a setuid binary calls system()... :p[22:45:32] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #illumos[22:48:29] <danmcd> Yeah... he thought he was going to find more than he did.[22:49:00] <danmcd> I'm not going to ridicule him, though, because someday he may find something actually bad, and we're way too small to be THAT discouraging.[22:49:09] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[22:49:40] <rmustacc> It's more so just that we're lucky enough to not have setuid binaries with $ORIGIN.[22:50:01] <rmustacc> These issues are always serious, it's always fortunate when the blast impact is low.[22:50:12] <anniz> why would you ever link setuid binaries specifying a PT_INTERP with a relative path ?[22:50:12] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@141-26-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:50:21] <anniz> thats essentially like calling system("foo")[22:50:43] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #illumos[22:50:49] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@141-26-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #illumos[22:50:54] <anniz> any non-standard ld.so would be a Bad Idea per se since the whole thing runs setuid[22:51:46] <anniz> well, setuid's in general is a pretty bad idea 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