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[00:03:21] <btQuark> hello everyone
[00:05:56] <mrooney> why hello
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[00:26:57] <btQuark> why not
[00:27:08] <btQuark> it could've been re as well
[00:28:20] <btQuark> i wondered if i could use hudsons infrastructure to automatize our new-project-process
[00:29:13] <btQuark> i'ld need to grab some userinput and then more or less sequentially do some steps
[00:29:35] <btQuark> like create svn, create archetype, check in, create ci job and so far
[00:31:15] <evilchili> you'd probably need to do most of those steps via a script call of some sort
[00:31:44] <evilchili> perhaps it's better to script the entire thing and then use hudson to invoke it with the parmaterized bits?
[00:31:49] <evilchili> parameterized too
[00:32:02] <btQuark> jup, currently i've whipped together some webapp that collects message driven beans with activemq, and have agents somewhere
[00:33:08] <btQuark> and what i am anoyed by is the gui, and i wondered if i could use the nice dynamic gui features of hudson...as i well, hate gui creation
[00:33:52] <btQuark> jup, thought of parametrized jobs too to orchestrate the mdbs..
[00:34:47] <btQuark> although i wonder if ild rather just use a freeform job and do my shellscripting of some sort using the parameters there
[00:35:20] <evilchili> depends on what you need to be able to specify at build time i guess
[00:36:25] <btQuark> mostly maven metadata, name of project and department
[00:36:50] <btQuark> maybe some information about what type of project theyld like
[00:37:20] <btQuark> (ie. multiroot, singleroot vcs, dvcs or svn, that kind of stuff)
[00:38:08] <btQuark> and since i might not act against the repo server directly i need to send an email to the repo servers repsonsible person, he needs to ack that and resume the process
[00:38:45] <btQuark> and that thing with the process needing to be suspended brought up quite some complexity
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[00:39:50] <btQuark> where later ild to be able to get an agent on the repo server that the responsible guy controls&likes so i can do my stuff more automaticall
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[00:41:41] <btQuark> so basically your average enterprise batch processing
[00:42:28] <evilchili> you probably don't want to do the whole thing from hudson, if you're going to have human steps in the middle
[00:42:55] <evilchili> at the very least you'll want multiple jobs
[00:43:38] <btQuark> jup, thought so too - one could send of an email from the first step like "do this and that and if youre done click this"
[00:44:10] <evilchili> of course, if you *did* do a job that blocked on a human, you'd have nice metrics on how long it takes people to respond to requests >:)
[00:44:27] <btQuark> :D
[00:44:43] <btQuark> not sure if i would want to expose such metrics...
[00:45:14] <btQuark> although i'ld wonder how i could block a job until further human input
[00:45:46] <btQuark> maybe do busy waiting at some point waiting for some file to appear of something along those lines
[00:46:22] <btQuark> and how to clean up in case of crap happening
[00:47:11] <btQuark> i wonder if i should just do shell execution to check something in or if hudson could help me there
[00:49:24] <btQuark> i think i'm going to try to solve that using hudson, maybe the functions that i currently use with those mdbs could be implemented as just additional buildsteps
[00:50:07] <btQuark> although i think that i'm going to need to advance my knowledge of java generics quite some steps to be on par with hudson code...
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[02:20:32] <mrooney> haha rtyler you are a crazy dude (re: @hudsonci)
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[03:19:18] <pcc1> is there a mechanism for an SCM plugin to pass information from the parent matrix build to a child
[03:21:24] <pcc1> (specifically, the revision number/identifier. I am finding that the git plugin is building whatever revision was current at the time that the child was started)
[03:24:36] <pcc1> I'm beginning to suspect that the git plugin has never actually been tested in a real environment
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[03:45:50] <mrooney> haha
[03:46:32] <mrooney> pcc1: you are saying the parent triggers a child, and it builds what was current at the time of the PARENT start?
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[04:24:01] <bhuvan> a query on publishing custom html page in hudson
[04:24:18] <bhuvan> i understand we can use userContent/ area to publish custom html page.
[04:24:54] <bhuvan> this is perfect if job is executed by the master. how do we publish the content if the content is generated by slave?
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[05:17:47] <pcc1> mrooney: it builds what is current at the time of the child start (so if the child has been waiting in a queue this may vary between children). this seems completely wrong - for consistency it should build the same thing for each child i.e. what the parent decided on
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[05:29:01] <lifeless> hey
[05:29:06] <lifeless> so, the ec2 plugin
[05:29:15] <lifeless> anyone know of work being done to make it support windows AMI's?
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[05:42:59] <rtyler> lifeless: no IIRC, I think kohsuke stopped working on that to be honest
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[06:04:12] <lifeless> hmm
[06:04:15] <lifeless> I've filed a bug
[06:04:24] <lifeless> shall heckle kohsuke later
[06:07:20] <rtyler> woot
[06:07:20] <rtyler> heckling, i likes
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[08:34:09] <emanuelez> is there a way to access from the code the version in the pom file of the project?
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[10:36:41] <Dr_> Is there a way to authenticate users via ldap and also have some technical local users to access e.g. the cli-Interface?
[10:37:29] <Dr_> We do not have the possibility to add these users to our ADS
[10:37:52] <Dr_> And we need to create jobs etc. using an administrative app
[10:38:54] <Dr_> I'm sure that we are not the only ones with this problem - so how can it be solved/how was it solved elsewhere?
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[15:15:54] <mbertier> hi
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[15:17:12] <mbertier> does anyone know if hudson has native svn:externals support ?
[15:20:40] <mbertier> my project have several svn:externals and when a build is launched, it freezes for 10 minutes during checkout, then proceed with the next steps, but no externals are fetched
[15:21:14] <kohsuke> while it freezes for 10 minutes, please obtain the thread dump by visiting http://yourserver/hudson/threadDump
[15:21:53] <mbertier> the server is behind a proxy, but the hudson user has appropriate configuration in subversion/servers and manual checkout as hudson user works well
[15:22:00] <mbertier> kohsuke: ok
[15:22:22] <kohsuke> We should find out what it's doing for 10 minutes
[15:23:39] <mbertier> kohsuke: should i look for something in particular ?
[15:23:57] <kohsuke> look for the "Executor" thread that's supposed to be doing the build
[15:24:19] <emanuelez> kohsuke: hello! here at my company we needed MatrixBuilder to support one single workarea so we submitted a diff to issue 4960. is there any chance you get some time to review it and submit it in case it is ok?
[15:25:13] <mbertier> kohsuke: here's the threadDump : http://hudson.pastebin.com/m2a96387c
[15:27:44] <kohsuke> emanuelez: I'll try. Any chance you can add the error check in case configurations run on a different machine?
[15:28:46] <kohsuke> mbertier: interesting. there must be another thread that has SVNSocketConnection in its stack trace
[15:28:48] <kohsuke> can you look for that?
[15:29:24] <mbertier> kohsuke: indeed : http://hudson.pastebin.com/m5cf65322
[15:29:53] <emanuelez> kohsuke: nice one. we'll look into that and report back :)
[15:30:04] <pjz> anyone seen a dump like: http://pastebin.ca/1698862 ?
[15:30:11] <pjz> I get that at the end of a successful build
[15:31:00] <kohsuke> mbertier: try getting thread dump with some intervals (10 sec?) and see if Thread-31 continues to be stuck at that point
[15:31:11] <kohsuke> If so, it looks like a socket connection problem
[15:31:47] <mbertier> kohsuke: thread 31 disappeared, but now i have an equivalent thread 34
[15:32:33] <mbertier> kohsuke: subversion repo is accessed through https btw
[15:33:00] <mbertier> kohsuke: thread 34 is now 35
[15:36:11] <mbertier> kohsuke: build is now over
[15:37:04] <mbertier> kohsuke: does hudson use svnkit or the svn cli ?
[15:37:22] <mbertier> using the svn cli may solve my problem, is there a place i can configure this ?
[15:41:06] <pjz> not really - it uses svnkit
[15:41:33] <pjz> the best you can do is to configure a custom tunnel that svnkit will then use
[15:42:39] <mbertier> ok
[15:43:02] <mbertier> any advice on where i can look to find the source of my socket problem ?
[15:50:35] <pjz> I'd check to see if there's some svnkit logging you can turn on
[15:52:45] <pjz> any one seen this master/slave communications bug before?
[15:53:03] <pjz> http://pastebin.ca/1698862
[15:54:17] <kohsuke> mbertier: if you aren't seeing a fatal problem, maybe it's a DNS configuration probelm resulting in a slow name resolution
[15:54:50] <mbertier> kohsuke: i don't have the problem using svn cli, so i guess it's not related to dns
[15:58:13] <kohsuke> Maybe it's related to the proxy selection logic, perhaps?
[16:00:39] <mbertier> kohsuke: could be. is there a way i can try to tweak the svnkit used by hudson ?
[16:00:39] <pjz> kohsuke: any chance you an look at that pastebin of mine and point me at what's going on? It looks like a bug in the remoting communicaionts to me
[16:01:45] <kohsuke> mbertier: hard to say without digging deeper into the source code
[16:01:51] <kohsuke> I didn't write SVNKit :-)
[16:02:08] <kohsuke> I'd encourage you to try that if you can
[16:02:14] <kohsuke> See Wiki for how to set up the source code
[16:02:16] <christophsturm> is there a user group that every logged in user is a member of?
[16:02:53] <kohsuke> Otherwise perhaps talking to SVNKit guys might help.
[16:03:26] <kohsuke> pjz: sorry, one at a time. And I need to help my daughter in between, too
[16:04:14] <kohsuke> pjz: this should be reported as a bug to the warning plugin
[16:05:13] <emanuelez> kohsuke: should I just make sure that isBuildOn() run on MatrixBuild.getRuns() are all equal?
[16:06:29] <mbertier> kohsuke: thanks for your time
[16:17:54] <kohsuke> emanuelez: that's an useful check, but it'd be nice to have another
[16:18:22] <kohsuke> ... like MatrixConfiguration to declare themselves as assgined to the same node as its parent, maybe
[16:18:28] <kohsuke> Do you do distributed builds?
[16:19:01] <kohsuke> (the idea is to make Hudson intelligently schedule configurations, not just failing with an error
[16:19:03] <kohsuke> )
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[16:20:15] <emanuelez> kohsuke: No we don't do distributed builds.... well, we do, but we use our own system for that
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[16:22:56] <kohsuke> I see.
[16:23:23] <kohsuke> Another possibility is to have Hudson bring over the workspace to children in this mode, which is another often requested feature
[16:23:49] <kohsuke> So maybe just checking for the error now is OK, if we claim that that's what we'll do
[16:24:30] <emanuelez> yes, but our workspace is kind of big ( it's measured in Gigabytes :P )
[16:25:21] <kohsuke> well, you wouldn't see that feature anyway, since your Hudson doesn't do distributed builds
[16:26:05] <kohsuke> But it makes another set of users happy
[16:26:54] <emanuelez> yes I see your point
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[16:52:45] <pjz> kohsuke: thanks for the pointer; I found it already logged as a bug there, so I just upvoted it.
[16:53:07] <kohsuke> It should be easy to fix, if you are interested in giving it a shot
[16:53:45] <kohsuke> It just needs to use the right classloader
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[17:07:59] <Dr_> Hi all
[17:08:00] <Dr_> Is there a way to authenticate users via ldap and also have some technical local users to access e.g. the cli-Interface?
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[17:11:24] <Dr_> We do not have the possibility to add these users to our ADS And we need to create jobs etc. using an administrative app.
[17:12:13] <Dr_> (we can not allow jobcreation to anonymous :-( )
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[17:37:27] <Dr_> Hi kohsuke are you there?
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[19:30:01] <wyrdvans> how do you submit an issue in jira?
[19:30:53] <kohsuke> are you experiencing a trouble?
[19:32:15] <wyrdvans> Yes with the clover plugin. When the clover.xml is invalid, the clover post-build action fails fatally not allowing the rest of the post-build actions to execute.
[19:35:05] <wyrdvans> I think if it encounters an invalid clover.xml file it should just fail the build and allow the rest of the post-build actions to execute.
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[19:40:27] <incorrect> i am following the apache ajp setup, i can see hudson listening on the 8102 port, just i get this weird error from apache saying "APR does not understand this error code: proxy: read response failed from"
[19:40:28] <wyrdvans> here's the error I'm receiving: http://hudson.pastebin.com/m6d87009
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[19:43:47] <incorrect> ah hudson log shows me something about ajp
[19:50:58] <kohsuke> wyrdvans: no, I mean for filing an issue
[19:51:14] <kohsuke> You basically login and just navigate through the tool to file an issue
[19:51:23] <kohsuke> I thought JIRA is pretty standard among OSS projects
[19:52:14] <wyrdvans> I can't find anywhere to create a new issue
[19:52:23] <kohsuke> let me see
[19:52:27] <kohsuke> after you login, right?
[19:52:52] <kohsuke> To me there's "Issues" > "Create Issue"
[19:52:59] <kohsuke> on the top tab/menu bar
[19:53:34] <incorrect> i am getting http://hudson.pastebin.com/m7b310ace in my hudson log, i see others have had it before in older versions
[19:53:35] <wyrdvans> nope, don't have that
[19:53:50] <wyrdvans> the only thing I can do is search for issues
[19:54:20] <kohsuke> even after you login?
[19:55:34] <wyrdvans> yep
[19:56:21] <kohsuke> hmm
[19:57:19] <wyrdvans> it's like I only have search permission.
[19:58:08] <kohsuke> I have a suspicion that this is a cache related issue between JIRA and Crowd
[19:58:26] <kohsuke> We'll investigate the root cause, but in the mean time, can you try it again after 2 hours?
[19:58:38] <wyrdvans> will do
[19:58:38] <kohsuke> I believe that's the cache expiration period
[19:58:53] <kohsuke> I assume you've never filed issues in Hudson before and today was the first time you loggined in to our JIRA, right?
[19:59:34] <wyrdvans> yep
[20:00:10] <kohsuke> I have to step aside now. Thank you for reporting the problem about reporting the problem, and my apologies for the inconvenience.
[20:00:22] <wyrdvans> never filed an issue and this is the first time logging into JIRA
[20:00:35] <wyrdvans> hehehe no problem
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[20:01:28] <incorrect> if i want to use ajp, should i get tomcat?
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[20:23:32] <breva> hello
[20:24:44] <breva> I've a question regarding periodic scheduling...is there a way to see when multiple jobs are scheduled?
[20:25:32] <breva> ie. is there a view that provides a summary of all jobs that are scheduled periodically and when they are scheduled? is there a column that can be added to a view?
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[20:29:44] <breva> nm; think I found an answer here: http://n4.nabble.com/Hudson-Build-Schedule-overview-td383640.html#a383640
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[20:49:00] <mindless> does jira have a "duplicate of" when closing as duplicate?
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[20:54:28] <abayer> mindless: first you link the issue to the one it duplicates, then resolve it with "duplicate" as the resolution.
[20:55:06] <abayer> I should try to see if I can write an extension to make that one step...
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[20:55:11] <mindless> oh, I did "resolve" as duplicate, and it didn't ask me anything
[20:55:44] <mindless> ah, I see Link
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[20:57:31] <jsh_> I'm having some installation problems on Ubuntu Karmic.
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[20:58:17] <jsh_> Anyone available to offer advice?
[20:59:29] <rtyler> probably
[21:00:01] <jsh_> The problems are (to some degree, at least) my own fault, of course.
[21:00:22] <jsh_> I installed Hudson with apt-get and it worked. Great.
[21:00:45] <jsh_> I tried to secure it, and then no one had permissions to do anything.
[21:00:58] <jsh_> Including to unsecure it again. :-)
[21:01:17] <jsh_> Okay, so I *uninstalled* it (apt-get remove).
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[21:01:46] <jsh_> Now all my re-installs (apt-get, again) fail.
[21:02:10] <jsh_> I'm at a loss for what to fix.
[21:02:31] <jsh_> Or even where to look.
[21:02:37] <rtyler> jsh_: /var/lib/hudson/config.xml is what you want to tweak
[21:02:46] <rtyler> there's some XML in there you can change to false to disable the security
[21:02:54] <rtyler> apt-get remove doesn't remove /var/lib/hudson
[21:03:01] <rtyler> make a backup before you fux with that file though ;0
[21:03:34] <jsh_> I removed /var/lib/hudson by hand. It also doesn't remove /etc/defaults/hudson or the hudson user. I removed them, too.
[21:03:59] <rtyler> >_<
[21:04:38] <jsh_> The "sudo apt-get install hudson" fails with error messages, including an inability to create a directory.
[21:05:15] <jsh_> It creates /var/lib/hudson, but it's empty.
[21:06:07] <jsh_> Suggestions? Wisdom?
[21:06:21] <rtyler> errors? pastes? :)
[21:06:36] <jsh_> Sure. Hang on.
[21:08:13] <jsh_> Setting up hudson (1.336) ...
[21:08:13] <jsh_> Adding system user `hudson' (UID 121) ...
[21:08:13] <jsh_> Adding new user `hudson' (UID 121) with group `nogroup' ...
[21:08:13] <jsh_> Not creating home directory `/var/lib/hudson'.
[21:08:13] <jsh_> dirname: missing operand
[21:08:14] <jsh_> Try `dirname --help' for more information.
[21:08:16] <jsh_> dirname: missing operand
[21:08:18] <jsh_> Try `dirname --help' for more information.
[21:08:20] <jsh_> chown: missing operand
[21:08:22] <jsh_> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[21:08:24] <jsh_> Invalid --pidfile argument: '' (Must be an absolute file path)
[21:08:26] <jsh_> usage: daemon [options] [cmd arg...]
[21:08:28] <jsh_> options:
[21:08:35] <jsh_> That help? If not, what would?
[21:09:09] <jsh_> (Oh, and despite the advertised group, /var/lib/hudson is created with group "adm"
[21:09:10] * rtyler sighs
[21:09:19] <evilchili> >_<
[21:09:20] <rtyler> | Paste: http://hudson.pastebin.com
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[21:09:49] <jsh_> Okay, sorry. I'm ignorant.
[21:09:53] <rtyler> jsh_: I think in your flailing about you've only half-removed the previous hudson remnants, causing your issues now
[21:10:04] <rtyler> /var/run/hudson.pid should be nuked as well
[21:10:28] <jsh_> Oh, I believe that. I'll remove everything again, cheerfully.
[21:12:18] <jsh_> Okay, first I'm doing a sudo apt-get remove hudson,
[21:12:32] <jsh_> and then a sudo apt-get autoremove to remove "daemon"
[21:13:19] <jsh_> There is no /var/run/hudson.pid, nor does "ps ajax | grep hudson" report any hudson-related process
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[21:15:11] <jsh_> grep hudson /etc/* returns nothing (except in backup versions of files)
[21:16:26] <jsh_> There are references to hudson in the /etc/rc*.d directories, still, as well as in /etc/init.d
[21:18:53] <jsh_> Anything else I should be looking at?
[21:37:14] <jsh_> rtyler: Should go ahead and try another "sudo apt-get install hudson"?
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[22:03:18] <rtyler> jsh_: beats me, I don't use debian :)
[22:07:23] <jsh_> Fair enough. I'll give it a shot.
[22:07:44] <evilchili> jsh_: doublecheck that the UID/GID being assigned to hudson aren't already in use, particularly the GID, if you're seeing bogus ownership
[22:08:01] <jsh_> Ah. Okay.
[22:08:07] <evilchili> you can also use find to scan your entire disk to find files that have changed since a given date/time, and use that to look for things you might have missed
[22:08:39] <rtyler> yikes
[22:08:52] <jsh_> Less useful than I'd like. I have a *very* active machine.
[22:09:11] <evilchili> *shrug* it's your mess
[22:09:11] <evilchili> just offering suggestions :)
[22:09:12] <jsh_> Yes, it is. And thanks.
[22:09:53] <rtyler> heh
[22:11:24] <jsh_> The other thing I'm going to do first is reboot the box. What the heck.
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[22:44:20] <ian_mac> what is the recommended location for the build.xml file? is project root the project root or the workspace root?
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[22:46:35] <jsh_> evilchili,rtyler: thanks. I removed enough that it re-installs successfully.
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[22:46:45] <evilchili> \o/
[22:46:54] <jsh_> Back to the drawing board. :-)
[22:47:20] <evilchili> now just make sure you give someone a full set of permissions when you alter the permissions matrix :)
[22:47:51] <evilchili> and/or back up the config.xml file before you make changes
[22:47:58] <jsh_> Well, I thought I had. I thought wrong.
[22:48:42] <jsh_> It's so surprising. I mean, I've never screwed up anything on my computer before. :-)
[22:49:06] <rtyler> jsh_: next time, don't panic and start deleting and uninstalling things, come ask first :)
[22:49:49] <jsh_> Okay. Hindsight is always 20-20 -- at least, mine is.
[22:50:08] <rtyler> :)
[22:50:14] <rtyler> we're here to help
[22:50:20] <rtyler> please wait on the line for the next available representative
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[22:50:34] <rtyler> doo-dew-dooo-dew-dew-dew-dooooo
[22:50:36] * rtyler hums
[22:50:40] <evilchili> Okay sir, I can help you with that. Let me transfer you to someone who can help you with that.
[22:50:51] <rtyler> (fwiw, that was the first bit of Girl from Ipanema)
[22:50:56] <rtyler> hah
[22:51:24] <jsh_> Tx. Bye ... for now.
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[23:03:21] <justin1> does anyone know if the git plugin supports http auth?
[23:03:30] <justin1> i'm having a hell of a time getting it to work.
[23:03:57] <stigkj> Now I find an answer, and Dr_ is not there…hrmf... :-)
[23:05:14] <stigkj> If anybody else sees him later or whatever, Penrose (penrose.codehaus.org) might be a solution for his problems with authenticating regular users against an ldap, but have some technical users outside it that works on the admin of Hudson
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[23:22:09] <blizzow1> I upgraded my hudson instance from 1.333 to 1.336 and I haven't had a single one of my automated builds fire off. They're supposed to poll SCM, but when I open the console I see the following error: "FATAL: class hudson.scm.SubversionSCM is missing its descriptor" with a bunch of java debug code after.
[23:22:30] <blizzow1> Most of it relating to subversion SCM.
[23:22:37] <blizzow1> Does anyone know what's going on here?
[23:28:25] <stigkj> blizzow1: I have not upgraded Hudson myself, but you might check if there is a new Subversion plugin available? Or is that bundled…don't remember exactly...
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[23:31:55] <evilchili> there's so much yellow in the green balls of the greenballs plugin they kind of look vomitous
[23:31:55] <evilchili> :x
[23:36:42] <blizzow1> Also, Is there a way to remove a view once it's been created?
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[23:44:31] <autojack> hi, I just downloaded the latest hudson and started it running on a Linux system for the first time, on port 8000. it starts up fine, but as soon as I try to access it with a browser it dumps this to the console: http://hudson.pastebin.com/d50b6851b
[23:44:43] <autojack> my browser gets a 'connection reset' error.
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[23:49:41] <autojack> aha, user error. my bad.
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