January 27, 2017 
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seconds)[15:46:34] *** bogwog <bogwog!~alex@c-73-179-222-242.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #haxe[15:56:51] *** xet7_ <xet7_!~xet7@80-186-15-215.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #haxe[16:01:59] *** Uhfgood <Uhfgood!~Captain_J@97-96-80-60.res.bhn.net> has joined #haxe[16:04:08] *** xet7 <xet7!~xet7@80-186-15-215.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:04:16] *** xet7_ <xet7_!~xet7@80-186-15-215.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:08:00] *** cdg <cdg!~cdg@2602:30a:2e2d:b980:f86a:9a23:aafa:6d67> has joined #haxe[16:09:47] *** deltaluca <deltaluca!~deltaluca@81.138.13.219> has joined #haxe[16:10:16] <bogwog> I recently upgraded to the latest Haxe from (iirc) 3.2.1. Doing this broke my project, but it still built. I managed to track the issue down to String initialization behavior. I was appending characters to a class's public member string variable using the "obj.str+='c'" notation WITHOUT first initializing the string. Before I updated Haxe, the behavior was to automatically initialize the string to an empty[16:10:22] <bogwog> string. AFTER updating to the latest version (3.4.0-RC2), the default behavior is to initialize it to "null", and then append the characters. So "str+='Hello'" becomes "nullHello" instead of "Hello". The solution for me is obviously to just manually initialize the string to an empty one, but I'm wondering if this is a bug that was introduced/fixed with the latest version of Haxe.[16:10:30] <bogwog> (target is PHP btw)[16:11:56] <Sim_n> default null sounds correct[16:12:10] <ProPuke> old haxe had no standard regarding uninitialised variables. That used to be undefined behaviour[16:14:02] *** SmilyOrg <SmilyOrg!~SmilzOrg@ip5f5aea67.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #haxe[16:14:34] <bogwog> Makes sense, but is it no longer undefined behavior?[16:14:53] *** slickrockio <slickrockio!~nodebot@ec2-107-21-129-27.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haxe[16:15:00] *** Smily <Smily!~SmilzOrg@ip5f5aea67.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:21:23] *** Skerper <Skerper!Skerper@KD027081086247.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:22:03] *** PSvils <PSvils!~PDevelope@88.135.146.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:24:30] <ProPuke> no. I believe it's defined now. Although there is still variance of nullability between static and dynamic languages - `var test:Int` will be null on dynamic languages and 0 on static[16:24:48] <ProPuke> so best to initialise if the value matters[16:27:13] *** Aduros <Aduros!~bruno@unaffiliated/aduros> has joined #haxe[16:27:53] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:28:22] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #haxe[16:31:35] *** xet7 <xet7!~xet7@80-186-15-215.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #haxe[16:34:17] <bogwog> Ok, thanks. 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