January 19, 2017 
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WeeChat 1.6)[14:14:08] *** kaikoga <kaikoga!~kaikoga@nttkyo224052.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp> has joined #haxe[14:42:09] *** RobDangerousMobi <RobDangerousMobi!~Thunderbi@gatekeeper.kom.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> has joined #haxe[15:27:15] *** cdg <cdg!~cdg@157.166.173.5> has joined #haxe[15:27:20] *** cdg <cdg!~cdg@157.166.173.5> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:27:34] *** cdg <cdg!~cdg@157.166.173.5> has joined #haxe[15:33:38] *** deltaluca <deltaluca!~deltaluca@81.138.13.219> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:42:52] *** hio <hio!~Ted@95.183.53.17> has joined #haxe[15:43:02] <hio> can someone explain haxe to me?[15:44:20] *** deltaluca <deltaluca!~luca@cpc112687-nmal22-2-0-cust234.19-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haxe[15:44:46] <gogoprog1> it is a language[15:45:00] <gogoprog1> which transpiles into different other languages[15:47:32] <ProPuke> The fact it transpiles might not be relavant, depending what you're doing. You can also treat it as a language, that happens to just work with a lot of targets (osx, linux, windows, android, ios the web etc)[15:49:12] <hio> gogoprog1, where are the language externs[15:50:49] <gogoprog1> mostly in haxelib (libraries for haxe), some in haxe itself (g.e haxe.js.JQuery) and others can be implemented yourself quite easily[15:51:04] *** PSvils <PSvils!~PDevelope@212.93.104.62> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:54:48] *** rf314_ <rf314_!~blx@static-176-182-148-133.ncc.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #haxe[15:57:01] <hio> how do i build anything, the commands are super cryptic[15:57:06] <hio> whats up with these weird .hxml files[15:57:09] <hio> what do i need them for[15:57:30] <hio> where are the compilers exactly? haxe has like 5 in a single executable?[15:58:04] *** gogoprog <gogoprog!~gogoprog@2a02:a03f:c06:5b00:4d2:c868:c85a:a43e> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[15:58:08] <hio> does haxe have its own runtime too or just source-to-source compilation?[15:58:09] *** gogoprog1 is now known as gogoprog[15:58:42] <hio> haxe docs are very confusing. i read the docs page about externs and i still dont have a clue what they do, where to put them, etc.[15:58:59] <hio> haxe has to explain a lot more about how it works[15:59:14] *** gogoprog1 <gogoprog1!~gogoprog@2a02:a03f:c06:5b00:4d2:c868:c85a:a43e> has joined #haxe[16:00:27] <gogoprog> hio: http://code.haxe.org/category/beginner/hello-world.html[16:00:48] <ProPuke> hio: https://haxe.org/manual/compiler-usage.html[16:02:46] <ProPuke> There is just a single compiler, yes. hxml files can be used to specify commandline arguments. Commonly you'd have each commandline param on a separate line in the hxml file, and then just call `haxe compile.xml` instead of specifing all arguments[16:03:27] <ProPuke> haxe implements a runtime where neccasary for the language (for example C++ builds include a runtime called hxcpp which provides garbage collection)[16:03:48] <ProPuke> but it's otherwise source-to-source[16:05:09] <hio> what if I use a javascript api and compile to c++?[16:05:24] <gogoprog> it is unsupported ;)[16:05:33] <ibilon> haxe executables don't run in a haxe virtual machine/interpreter like java/python programs do[16:05:33] <ibilon> well unless you compile to java and/or to python, but there's no haxe specific vm/interpreter on top of the native ones[16:05:35] <hio> is it a compiler error?[16:05:43] <gogoprog> hio: yes[16:06:34] <hio> why would anybody use haxe to compile to java or c++, isnt that super cumbersome? I mean the debugging and libraries all wont work as well as if you would just use the language directly[16:06:50] <ibilon> because you can compile to java *and* c++[16:07:04] <hio> ok but realistically how useful is that if i cant even debug my program[16:07:20] <gogoprog> debuggers sourcemaps do exist[16:07:24] <gogoprog> and haxe can generate them[16:07:26] <gogoprog> you still can debug[16:07:26] <hio> and you just said before that a js api cant be used in c++, so i assume i cant use a java api in c++ either[16:07:41] <ibilon> a classic use is to compile to one language for server and another for client[16:08:04] <ProPuke> commonly you'd use crossplatform apis in haxe, instead of target-specific ones[16:08:08] <ibilon> any pure haxe code can be used on all targets, but if you use a target specific class it'll only work on that target[16:08:21] <ProPuke> but js and java apis are available if you wish access to them directly[16:08:51] <hio> how do i make an api that is available to both javascript and c++?[16:08:57] <ibilon> and you can find a lot of crossplatform libraries which gives you an api that works on several targets[16:09:20] *** frumple <frumple!~dylsexic@213.149.61.149> has joined #haxe[16:10:11] <ibilon> hio: would the api do anything target specific, like accessing the dom on javascript or calling a native executable on c++? if not you don't need to do anything[16:10:11] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:10:51] <hio> well lets say that i want to send an http request in both languages[16:11:08] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #haxe[16:11:34] <hio> i mean most of the time anything that i write will need some kind of native api, otherwise what's the point. pure math library in haxe? anytthing else needs native[16:11:48] <ibilon> you can use the haxe.Http class http://api.haxe.org/haxe/Http.html which is "Available on all platforms"[16:12:19] *** Aduros <Aduros!~bruno@unaffiliated/aduros> has joined #haxe[16:12:20] <ibilon> a good part of the haxe standard library will work on all targets[16:13:03] <ibilon> and a subpart (sys.*) which works on all sys target (c++, java, c#, python, lua, neko, php)[16:13:05] <hio> i need to add window.customElements.define() to the javascript api. it doesnt seem to be available in haxe. How do I do that?[16:14:26] <hio> i saw the WebIDL parser for haxe on github but that only contains a .hx file for WebGL for some reason[16:15:01] <ibilon> there is http://api.haxe.org/js/html/Document.html#registerElement, is that it?[16:15:14] <hio> no, thats the old api version. they added a new spec[16:15:31] <ibilon> if that's too recent it may not be in just yet[16:15:41] <gogoprog> you still can do this :[16:15:44] <hio> the standard exists since october[16:16:05] <gogoprog> cast(Browser.window, Dynamic).customElements.define[16:16:20] <ibilon> but you can make an extern for it https://haxe.org/manual/lf-externs.html https://haxe.org/manual/target-javascript-external-libraries.html[16:16:20] <ibilon> which tells the compiler what the native class looks like[16:16:45] *** RobDangerousMobi <RobDangerousMobi!~Thunderbi@gatekeeper.kom.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> has quit IRC (Quit: RobDangerousMobi)[16:17:04] *** RobDangerousMobi <RobDangerousMobi!~Thunderbi@2001:41b8:83f:2008:90a2:5f29:828e:c188> has joined #haxe[16:19:18] <ibilon> the custom element api isn't implemented in firefox, and since haxe externs are made with mozilla webidl maybe that's why it's not there[16:20:11] <hio> hm[16:22:29] *** PSvils <PSvils!~PDevelope@88.135.146.138> has joined #haxe[16:27:27] <hio> this all seems like a lot of work, is haxe really worth it?[16:28:31] <gogoprog> it depends on your project ;)[16:29:07] <ibilon> depends on your needs, if you need your code to work on multiple targets like a nodejs server + unity c# you can share the code and it's really great[16:29:43] <ibilon> if you want a static language instead of writing javascript it's one a multiple alternatives and a good one imo[16:30:10] <gogoprog> I personaly also use it for javascript, to have a compile time[16:30:53] <ibilon> and haxe has some great features like macro, enums, abstracts[16:31:33] <ibilon> and if one day you need to write a desktop program you don't have to change language just do a project which compiles to c++[16:31:35] <hio> yeah but in practice, i just see myself constantly writing library code and then not being able to debug it as well as if i had used the native language. Let's say I compile to java on the server. Uh ok, I still need mongodb libraries, i need to wrap my java server first etc etc.. and after all that i cant even directly debug the haxe code, i still need the entire java toolchain with eclipse and all to debug[16:32:09] <hio> debug generated code, not my actual code[16:32:24] <hio> all that effort just for a little nicer language[16:32:47] <ibilon> well there are a good number of existing library, and debugging is getting better, but yes you may need to write some platform specific code to integrate with native[16:34:26] <ibilon> but if you also do a javascript client you don't need to rewrite a second copy of the majority of your code, all of your data structures are the same[16:34:26] <ibilon> and there's feature like rpc and serialization to bridge the two without issues of type/feature mismatch between the two languages[17:10:28] *** anniz <anniz!~anniz@c83-250-15-118.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #haxe[17:14:39] *** RobDangerousMob1 <RobDangerousMob1!~Thunderbi@2001:41b8:83f:200c:e518:30f0:dc87:6b74> has joined #haxe[17:16:29] *** RobDangerousMobi <RobDangerousMobi!~Thunderbi@2001:41b8:83f:2008:90a2:5f29:828e:c188> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:18:59] *** RobDangerousMob1 <RobDangerousMob1!~Thunderbi@2001:41b8:83f:200c:e518:30f0:dc87:6b74> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:38:15] *** Adib <Adib!~Adib@unaffiliated/adib> has joined #haxe[17:44:21] *** ibilon <ibilon!~lemierev@2001:660:7101:2::18> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:47:30] *** gogoprog <gogoprog!~FC@91.183.39.171> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[18:00:16] *** RobDangerousMobi <RobDangerousMobi!~Thunderbi@p2003007A0975380085F9A015C1BDA023.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haxe[18:02:23] *** RobDangerous <RobDangerous!~Thunderbi@p2003007A09753800C55F362D22879CFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haxe[18:10:43] *** deltaluca <deltaluca!~luca@cpc112687-nmal22-2-0-cust234.19-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:20:58] *** RobDangerousMobi <RobDangerousMobi!~Thunderbi@p2003007A0975380085F9A015C1BDA023.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:23:40] *** gunnbr <gunnbr!~textual@cpe-70-95-79-208.san.res.rr.com> has joined #haxe[18:24:08] *** deltaluca <deltaluca!~luca@cpc112687-nmal22-2-0-cust234.19-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haxe[18:32:07] *** ibilon <ibilon!~ibilon@2a01cb0504d37b006c9f8ca860b1b619.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #haxe[18:35:46] *** hio <hio!~Ted@95.183.53.17> has left #haxe ("Leaving")[18:36:10] *** gunnbr <gunnbr!~textual@cpe-70-95-79-208.san.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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But, I still feel like blind man going through an obstacle course.[21:57:58] <Misiur> So, current step I want to make, is copy a function body to my @:genericBuild macro class[21:58:02] <Misiur> This is code I have: https://gist.github.com/Misiur/f2a8f6e1334120f27e5051248b29f23c[21:58:23] <Misiur> However I'm stuck at "Macro.hx:65: lines 65-70 : Null<haxe.macro.TypedExpr> should be Null<haxe.macro.Expr>"[21:58:31] <Misiur> is there a simple way to go from TypedExpr to Expr?[22:04:43] <Simn> http://api.haxe.org/haxe/macro/Context.html?#getTypedExpr[22:08:20] *** mr_pinc <mr_pinc!~mrpinc@65.90.67.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:12:16] *** cdg <cdg!~cdg@157.166.173.5> has joined #haxe[22:13:00] <Misiur> Perfect, works flawlessly, now I can steal function bodies. Thank yuo[22:20:04] *** freddj <freddj!~Fred@89-93-154-72.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #haxe[22:36:21] *** Naeroon <Naeroon!8e862f5d@gateway/web/flash/unic0rn.github.io/ip.142.134.47.93> has joined #haxe[22:41:38] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:42:40] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #haxe[22:48:48] *** ratiotile_ <ratiotile_!~ratiotile@108-254-162-211.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:07:48] *** ibilon <ibilon!~ibilon@2a01cb0504d37b006c9f8ca860b1b619.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:19:44] *** Naeroon <Naeroon!8e862f5d@gateway/web/flash/unic0rn.github.io/ip.142.134.47.93> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:26:21] *** slickrockio <slickrockio!~nodebot@ec2-54-221-67-113.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haxe[23:32:42] <Misiur> There's an invalid link on https://haxe.org/manual/types-nullability-optional-arguments.html - in trivia box. It points to .md while only .html is available[23:36:45] <Simn> Hmm[23:36:52] <Simn> Please open an issue[23:55:17] *** Misiur <Misiur!531f91ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.31.145.171> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)