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[08:55:57] <Not-3d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 10aa3ec - terminus_ttf: bump version.
[08:55:58] <Not-3d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] korli bb5df61 - libebml: add recipe for version 1.3.7.
[08:56:00] <Not-3d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 0a320b3 - libmatroska: bump version.
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[10:18:37] <Not-3d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys b4037c8 - kdiff: fix secondary arch build
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[10:27:39] <Not-3d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys cbb288e - kdiff: another attempt to fix secondary arch build
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[12:26:26] <devport> I do not know what the problem with this HDA driver...
[12:27:23] <devport> i reading and reading source... and verified with a hdac.c from freebsd ;]
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[12:27:56] <devport> it is not easy :)
[12:28:06] <devport> this problem
[12:30:02] <devport> i found that it does not show me 2 speakers sliders ;]
[12:30:48] <devport> mayby nodes not correct connect ...
[12:32:36] <devport> is there anybody from this driver here ?
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[13:50:02] <Not-3d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes f3aa043 - Krusader: get file icons from Tracker
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[14:59:55] <over7head> hi
[15:00:26] <over7head> im not understand part of offline download for wifi-firmware
[15:00:38] <over7head> what to do with this script?
[15:00:58] <over7head> can i just download zip from somewhere and run it from haiku?
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[15:08:09] <over7head> also, is there a way to setup vesa mode permanently for every boot?
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[18:06:03] <Rajagopalan> Hey pulkomandy was the updated proposal better?
[18:06:12] <Rajagopalan> should i correct something?
[18:09:45] <PulkoMandy> Rajagopalan: you can register on the GSoC website and submit your draft there please?
[18:09:53] <PulkoMandy> it will make it a lot easier for mentors to review it
[18:10:09] <PulkoMandy> no need to search for links in the mailing list archives
[18:10:11] <Rajagopalan> ok sure thank you so much
[18:10:25] <PulkoMandy> don't worry you can still update the draft after doing that
[18:10:58] <Rajagopalan> :) will do it by tommorow
[18:11:04] <Rajagopalan> and im caught up with exams
[18:11:07] <Rajagopalan> my final exams
[18:11:16] <Rajagopalan> so will resume my work after my exams end
[18:11:21] <Rajagopalan> :\
[18:11:44] <PulkoMandy> fine, submit the draft so we can review it meanwhile
[18:12:02] <Rajagopalan> :)
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[18:49:59] <extrowerk> this way going down in the rabbit hole, again, i think.
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[20:10:50] <extrowerk> afaik the USB isosynch transfer still not supported, while the usb audio devices needs it, right? So they are still not working, except the OHCI ones, is it right?
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[20:37:22] <PulkoMandy> extrowerk: yes, to be exact, input isochronous works, so audio input may be ok, but not output
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[21:00:29] <waddlesplash> extrowerk: I have a WIP patch for bidirectional isochronous transfers on XHCI but no way to test it
[21:00:36] <waddlesplash> because the USB audio driver is broken
[21:01:04] <waddlesplash> and I can't find any other software that does audio or webcam in e.g. libusb
[21:01:50] <extrowerk> i have no usb devices, but i noticed reality-warping at the forum.
[21:04:00] <extrowerk> at least i call this phenomenon "reality-warping"
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[21:05:10] <PulkoMandy> isohronous transfers from libusb? why would one do that? you would only get performance issues from doing realtime stuff in userland
[21:05:22] <PulkoMandy> we tried for our webcam drivers, so I know :D
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[21:10:09] <mmu_man> hmm I didn't look at libwebcam but possibly it does
[21:10:15] <mmu_man> sadly it's written in ObjC
[21:11:24] <PulkoMandy> so is The Unarchiver which would be great for Expander
[21:11:31] <PulkoMandy> so maybe we should consider getting that to work...
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[21:34:14] <Oishika> Need some help with BEntry class. "error: variable 'BEntry settingsEntry' has initializer but incomplete type BEntry settingsEntry(path.Path()); "
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[21:52:58] <Vidrep_64> Hi
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[22:39:18] <AlienSoldier> what do we do it the initialize menu is ghosted and stay this way?
[22:39:38] <AlienSoldier> * disk/initialize
[22:41:34] <AlienSoldier> **do if the
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[22:42:46] <Begasus> g'night peeps
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[22:46:08] <AlienSoldier> seem drivesetup is greatly broken in functionality
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[22:48:35] <AlienSoldier> humm and now with another flashdrive it seem to work
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[22:51:36] <AlienSoldier> .. and no it does not :(
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[22:54:06] <AlienSoldier> is it someting that work in 64bit but not in 32? nothing make sense
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[23:02:14] <AlienSoldier> ho, and noooowww it work. See you have to convert the whole key to a clean slate before starting this.
[23:02:33] <AlienSoldier> now to see if i can install on it
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[23:03:21] <over7head> How i can install .ucode package
[23:03:24] <over7head> ??
[23:04:31] <over7head> I extracted wifi-firmware in /boot but install script dont install anything... it fails to download
[23:04:43] <over7head> Thats wrong
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[23:05:08] <over7head> I have my realtek firmare dir there with package.ucode
[23:05:19] <over7head> How i can install it manually?
[23:06:06] <Vidrep_64> over7head, did you get your VESA issue sorted out?
[23:06:32] <over7head> Not.. everytime i boot i choose vesa with shift
[23:06:57] <Vidrep_64> Simple solution...
[23:07:26] <over7head> Yeap... will searc to do it permanently
[23:07:36] <over7head> But first i need wifi up??
[23:07:48] <Vidrep_64> ?boot/home/config/settings/kerner/drivers
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[23:08:36] <Vidrep_64> Uncomment this line: #fail_safe_video_mode true
[23:08:37] <over7head> It extract it in /boot/system/data/firmware
[23:09:28] <Vidrep_64> Your PC will boot into VESA
[23:11:07] <over7head> Thanks
[23:11:15] <over7head> I just did it
[23:11:16] <waddlesplash> over7head: Realtek does not need the firmware install script
[23:11:28] <waddlesplash> in fact only Intel 2100/2200 do
[23:11:39] <over7head> On linux my need
[23:11:52] <Vidrep_64> Hey waddlesplash
[23:11:59] <over7head> It is r8188eu
[23:12:01] <nepugia> good morning, err night :)
[23:12:05] <Vidrep_64> You done with school yet?
[23:12:22] <Vidrep_64> nepugia, good afternoon
[23:12:32] <waddlesplash> over7head: is that a USB chip?
[23:12:39] <over7head> Yes
[23:12:41] <waddlesplash> we don't support Realtek USB chips yet
[23:12:45] <waddlesplash> sorry
[23:12:49] <waddlesplash> Vidrep_64: no
[23:13:00] <over7head> Ahh noooo
[23:13:00] <waddlesplash> actually I should go back to finishing my major project paper
[23:13:10] <over7head> Why
[23:13:15] <Vidrep_64> How many more years?
[23:13:18] <over7head> Just take it from bsd lol
[23:13:21] <waddlesplash> and then go to bed because I've been working on it almost non stop for the past two weeks :p
[23:13:30] <waddlesplash> Vidrep_64: 0.15
[23:14:04] <waddlesplash> over7head: we do. however our compatibility layer doesn't map the USB IO functions
[23:14:30] <waddlesplash> over7head: I was working on that, but, no time, and most users have supported PCIe WiFi so that's what we use
[23:14:59] <waddlesplash> Realtek 8192EE and 8188CE, the PCIe ones, work
[23:15:07] <waddlesplash> fwiw
[23:15:52] <over7head> Does it need supported driver or some parch for kernel?
[23:16:19] <over7head> Patch*
[23:17:05] <waddlesplash> it needs a change to the compatibility layer
[23:17:33] <waddlesplash> we use FreeBSD drivers by wrapping their API calls with our own
[23:17:40] <waddlesplash> the USB APIs are not implemented at all
[23:19:48] <Vidrep_64> waddlesplash, I see you merged some commits from CodeForEvolution (Jacob S)
[23:19:53] <AlienSoldier> why am i not able to see the USB boot key i did? It does not ask to mount it after in re-insert it?
[23:20:01] <Vidrep_64> The reboot after update function
[23:20:05] <nepugia> i wonder if haiku also does webcamd (linux usb drivers in userspace afaik)
[23:20:25] <over7head> Sad.... but i can play with haiku without net fir fun...
[23:20:34] <over7head> I like learning new systems
[23:20:34] <waddlesplash> nepugia: our webcam driver is pretty broken at present, but yes it does work in userspace
[23:20:37] <Vidrep_64> I'm waiting for another commit so I can see if it actually works properly
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[23:20:51] <waddlesplash> over7head: do you not have a PCIe WiFi card or an Ethernet adapter?
[23:21:06] <over7head> No...
[23:21:16] <nepugia> waddlesplash: well, webcamd does not only webcams :), afaik it is a port of severall usb linux drivers to bsd
[23:21:22] <over7head> I have eth but i dont have modem
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[23:21:30] <nepugia> including support for my wacom tablet (which mysteriously broke recently)
[23:21:45] <waddlesplash> no, our input drivers are all in the kernel
[23:21:46] <over7head> Im using neighbor connection
[23:21:51] <waddlesplash> ...
[23:21:58] <waddlesplash> lol
[23:22:56] <AlienSoldier> i see 1.86GiB on the USB partition of the 7.45GiB key but can't seem to be able to mount it anymore
[23:23:54] <AlienSoldier> mounted fine when it was a simply formated BFS volume
[23:24:00] <over7head> Thats what i wanted to ask
[23:24:06] <nepugia> waddlesplash: ah, maybe i can look at what webcamd does :3
[23:24:16] <over7head> Can i mount ntfs from usb disk?
[23:24:49] <waddlesplash> over7head: yes
[23:25:02] <over7head> How?
[23:25:09] <waddlesplash> it should mount automatically
[23:25:25] <waddlesplash> if it does not, check in the Deskbars "Mount" menu
[23:25:26] <AlienSoldier> i wrote the raw image, it there anything different than using the anyboot version if we use drive setup?
[23:25:29] <waddlesplash> it should appear there
[23:25:52] <over7head> Hm....
[23:26:04] <over7head> Usb 3.0 isnt supported?
[23:26:09] <waddlesplash> it is
[23:26:20] <waddlesplash> however the USB3 driver was rather broken on the beta release
[23:26:28] <waddlesplash> it's fixed in the nightlies
[23:27:39] <over7head> I have ntfs disk in usb3.... alo i wasnt be able install haiku until i reconnect live stick to usb2
[23:28:32] <AlienSoldier> computer complain about "no sys loader!"
[23:28:59] <over7head> Now it works ntfs drive when i connect it to usb2
[23:29:04] <AlienSoldier> i guess if it does not mount it is because it does not see a filesystem
[23:29:09] <over7head> Seems my usb3 not work
[23:29:53] <AlienSoldier> will retry again the ordeal with the anyboot image :(
[23:31:56] <AlienSoldier> i don't think installing on a flashdrive require some "makebootable" fiddling anymore?
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[23:33:37] <waddlesplash> AlienSoldier: with raw? yes it does, usually
[23:34:01] <AlienSoldier> usually :)
[23:35:56] <AlienSoldier> waddlesplash still would not tell me why i can't mount it anymore
[23:37:29] <AlienSoldier> humm i also don't see the vilume name i entered
[23:37:33] <AlienSoldier> *volume
[23:37:44] <AlienSoldier> in drivesetup
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[23:46:25] <AlienSoldier> what! and now i can't mount it after deoing it. Seem it did not initially took the volume name, time to go try boot that key again.
[23:46:31] <AlienSoldier> *i can mount
[23:46:42] <AlienSoldier> **redoing
[23:47:48] <over7head> Can i move deskbar to the bottom?
[23:48:32] <over7head> Ah...
[23:48:36] <over7head> I did it
[23:49:00] <AlienSoldier> nope, time to retry all that with the anyboot one
[23:57:10] <over7head> Pretty interesting system
[23:57:40] <over7head> Can i build my kernel?
[23:58:16] <over7head> Gcc is here
[23:58:52] <over7head> Hope all dev tools comes with installation... without network i wont be able to install them all