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[00:49:07] <adamfowleruk> I officially give up on this cross compiling malarkey. Bedtime
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[02:09:44] <izaki> [random] I just came back from visiting the Vintage Computer Festival in Seattle and I crossed my path with someone sporting a BeOS tshirt... I didn't get a chance to ask, but I was wondering if it were someone in the channel :P
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[02:55:28] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/fjJor
[02:55:30] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 2c4a447 - kcontacts: add new recipe
[02:58:04] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/fjJoi
[02:58:06] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes d0dc062 - gpgme: bump version
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[03:22:48] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjJoQ
[03:22:49] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 719c493 - kcontacts: fix build for secondary arch
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[03:55:35] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] leavengood pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjJKf
[03:55:36] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] leavengood f5157a7 - Fix a garbled section of shell example code with an li
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[04:15:50] -HAIKU-Buildbot- Build haiku-release-x86_64 #234 is complete: Success [build successful] - https://build.haiku-os.org/buildbot/#builders/42/builds/234
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[05:36:12] <waddlesplash> ambroff: wow now that is a ticket
[05:36:25] <waddlesplash> ambroff: kudos, you clearly know your way around the system :)
[05:37:36] <ambroff> heh thanks
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[05:40:19] <waddlesplash> ambroff: I replied already :p
[05:40:31] <waddlesplash> I am guessing the IDT issue we fixed was the problem
[05:41:33] <waddlesplash> but ... I also note VirtualBox's APIC implementation is kinda garbage
[05:42:00] <waddlesplash> so if the issue is still not fixed on bare metal on master, try benchmarking in KVM instead
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[05:45:39] <ambroff> Yeah that's a good idea I'll try that.
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[06:00:57] <waddlesplash> geist: you know anything about terrible APIC latency on Threadripper?
[06:01:17] <waddlesplash> ambroff's ticket pegs it at 3ms (!!) in some cases for a single ICI
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[06:19:04] <waddlesplash> hmm, this looks relevant: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/commit/568f89709482fc5c1c8e55c1ecbfe27033d9d85d
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[07:05:29] <Begasus> g'morning peeps
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[07:38:38] <chad7> Hi! I am still getting the error after building from sourcecode as well building jam from source . My error log is https://gist.github.com/Naba7/55e88b31d14f6a2371e0f7a1cf7ae70b . I think it is related to ticket https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/4091
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[07:43:11] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjJ62
[07:43:13] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 3938310 - gpgme: kill all gpg-agent processes after build
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[08:24:38] <PulkoMandy> chad7: it does not look related, but you can try to run jam without -j in case it is
[08:25:05] <PulkoMandy> we will need the exact commands you used to checkout the sources, configure the build, etc, including any changes you may have made
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[08:25:50] <PulkoMandy> you should have solved this kind of problems during your work on the patch to add your name to contributors already, did you change your setup since then?
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[08:39:02] <extrowerk> PulkoMandy: do cross-compilation still using gcc5.4.0?
[08:39:21] <extrowerk> because his log says the package is 404
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[08:50:34] <extrowerk> Begasus: have you tested blis on x86?
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[09:04:09] <PulkoMandy> extrowerk: gcc7, why would we keep using older versions?
[09:04:47] <extrowerk> but his buildlog clearly states: "...failed DownloadLocatedFile1 download/gcc_syslibs_devel-5.4.0_2016_06_04-4-x86.hpkg ..."
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[09:32:45] <PulkoMandy> yes, which is why I asked for the full lists of commands
[09:33:06] <PulkoMandy> otherwise we would be only guessing :)
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[10:06:43] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjJic
[10:06:45] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk ae26d29 - Blis: enable for x86
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[10:09:32] <extrowerk> it seems ggme stucked: https://build.haiku-os.org/buildmaster/master/x86_gcc2/?buildrunDir=&viewMode=expanded
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[11:19:08] <superprower> EDID is really big thing, huh. Voltages and stuff. And on the other hand, I tried parsing EDID from my main laptop and I get really sparse data.
[11:20:36] <superprower> Especially this detailed_monitor structure bothers me. It contains a union, and there is 4 of this structures in original EDID structure, and I don't really know what do I need to put in there and what I don't.
[11:23:33] <superprower> What's more interesting is that for LVDS port, we already use VBT info as preferred, and something similar happens in Linux.
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[11:34:12] <superprower> Is there an easy way to shut package_daemon is syslog without recompiling it?
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[11:41:17] <Diver> superprower: shut?
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[11:51:52] <PulkoMandy> it logs a lot of things
[11:51:59] <PulkoMandy> same for the MTRR mappings and the HDA driver
[11:52:07] <PulkoMandy> we should probably disable some tracing by default...
[11:52:18] <PulkoMandy> no way to do that without recompiling I'm afraid
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[12:02:10] <superprower> Anyways, I... honestly don't understand what is causing black screen. I tried comparing logs of 'working' driver with current one after making slight changes to IsConnected so that LVDS is reported as connected, because plenty of code already can work with lack of EDID. The thing is, after some artifacts, I still get black screen around the time accelerant sets the display mode and gets framebuffer config,
[12:02:12] <superprower> while at the exact same moment old driver just works.
[12:03:51] <PulkoMandy> did you look at register dumps? that's probably the best way to spot a difference at this point
[12:04:57] <superprower> I'll try now
[12:07:18] <PulkoMandy> there is an ie_reg command to read and write registers from KDL
[12:07:29] <PulkoMandy> so this can be used for seeing how the card is configured in either case
[12:07:37] <PulkoMandy> and try to make them match, I guess?
[12:07:45] <superprower> It needs register addresses...
[12:07:52] <PulkoMandy> yes
[12:08:19] <PulkoMandy> you have these in the documentation
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[12:08:52] <superprower> Yeah, but there are a lot of them. It's honestly easier for me to setup SSH server now so that I can retrieve them from black-screen system using function in accelerant
[12:09:18] <PulkoMandy> yes, but the old driver does not have the register dump feature
[12:09:28] <PulkoMandy> well, unless you backport that, I guess
[12:10:00] <superprower> Oh. Right.
[12:10:00] <PulkoMandy> anyway, assuming you have two register dumps, you can compare them, and make the appropriate writes using ie_reg to try to make the blackscreen machine match the old driver dump
[12:10:07] <PulkoMandy> and see if you get a display that way
[12:10:24] <PulkoMandy> if you have the dumps, we can take a closer look at it and try to interpret the differences, too :)
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[12:40:41] <superprower> okay, dump_registers is pretty bad idea. Takes too much time, too much useless info.
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[12:58:47] <PulkoMandy> well, it's handy but you have to target a little what you look for
[12:59:02] <PulkoMandy> mostly pipe and ports registers I guess
[12:59:11] <PulkoMandy> we don't really have tooling to help with that however
[13:19:28] <adamfowleruk> PulkoMandy: Do we have I2C bus support and i2c tools for Haiku? Looks like I'm going to need them. :/
[13:28:15] <adamfowleruk> I found some base code... Going to look in to an i2cdetect for haiku
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[13:52:44] <chad7> Hi! I tried booting the nightly image from source code . Still I get error https://gist.github.com/Naba7/55e88b31d14f6a2371e0f7a1cf7ae70b.I think This is due to https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/4091
[13:53:24] <PulkoMandy> adamfowleruk: not really. We have an I2C implementation in our graphics driver
[13:53:44] <PulkoMandy> chad7: you did not reply to my questions earlier... please give the exact commands you used to clone the repo, configure and build it
[13:54:14] <PulkoMandy> if your problem is with parallel builds, just don't use parallel builds (run jam without the -j option)
[13:56:16] <PulkoMandy> it looks like you have problems downloading dependencies of Haiku, during the build some files are downloaded
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[13:59:24] <chad7> 1.git clone https://chad7 at git dot haiku-os.org/buildtools
[13:59:53] <chad7> 2.git clone https://chad7 at git dot haiku-os.org/haiku
[14:01:07] <chad7> 3.mkdir generated.x86gcc2;cd generated.x86gcc2
[14:01:56] <chad7> ../configure --build-cross-tools x86_gcc2 ../../buildtools/ --build-cross-tools x86
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[14:02:36] <chad7> jam -q -j5 @nightly-raw
[14:02:53] <chad7> still it error if I remove -j as I have tried
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[14:03:02] <chad7> jam -q @nightly-raw
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[14:04:01] <chad7> I don't get any iso image
[14:04:14] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ping
[14:05:19] <PulkoMandy> chad7: then your problem is not related to #4091
[14:05:45] <PulkoMandy> how did you configure your build (you ran the configure script at some point)?
[14:05:48] <PulkoMandy> pranali: yes?
[14:06:07] <chad7> Then for configuring I used./configure --build-cross-tools x86 ../buildtools/ , it worked perfectly fine
[14:06:07] <pranali> PulkoMandy: I finished making the changes to the repository attempted the build, however, I am getting a build failure due to webkit within webpositive.
[14:06:18] <pranali> I'm getting the following error:-
[14:06:28] <pranali> ../src/apps/webpositive/BrowserWindow.cpp: In member function 'void BrowserWindow::CreateNewTab(const BString&, bool, BWebView*)': ../src/apps/webpositive/BrowserWindow.cpp:1364:46: error: no matching function for call to 'BWebView::BWebView(const char [9], BURLContext*&)' webView = new BWebView("web view", fContext); ^ In file included from ../src/apps/webpositive/BrowserWindow.cpp:90
[14:06:46] <pranali> PulkoMandy: is there anyway by which I can make changes in webkit to reflect the updated classname?
[14:07:14] <pranali> PulkoMandy: I'm guessing this would be under the webpositive repository
[14:07:34] <PulkoMandy> you would have to download webkit sources from github.com/haiku/webkit, yes
[14:07:53] <PulkoMandy> it's a large project (several gigabytes) and takes a long time to build
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[14:08:22] <pranali> PulkoMandy: after I do that, and make the canges to the webpositive repository how do i include it within the haiku build?
[14:08:35] <PulkoMandy> maybe you can disable WebPositive in your build (see build/jam/UserBuildConfig.*) to test the other parts first
[14:08:45] <PulkoMandy> mh... not easily
[14:09:33] <PulkoMandy> you need to build a new webkit package (this needs using haikuporter), and then upload that to haiku servers. There is or was a "testing" mode for that (to not upload the package for everyone else) but I don't know if it still works
[14:10:27] <pranali> PulkoMandy: i was however able to build haiku by undoing the changes to the BUrlContext* class, however after the iso was created when i installed haiku and tried to test
[14:10:35] <pranali> everything worked apart from webpositive
[14:11:38] <pranali> everytime i tried to start webpositive, everything kind of started getting stuck. The OS worked fine but after trying to start webpositive no other apps seemed to be able to start
[14:12:15] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/fjJXH
[14:12:17] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 706a0b0 - libksane: bump version
[14:12:35] <pranali> i checked top and ps -a and that showed me that webpositive kept on restarting itself which was causing the issue.
[14:13:06] <chad7> I am not able to create a nightly iso image
[14:13:47] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/fjJXb
[14:13:49] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 615fe7f - KolourPaint: bump version
[14:14:28] <PulkoMandy> chad7: if you do not tell us how you ran configure we cannot help you. This is the 3rd time I ask you this now.
[14:14:51] <PulkoMandy> pranali: this looks strange, I would expect WebPositive to just crash
[14:14:55] <chad7> I have told it
[14:15:05] <pranali> chad7: are you trying to build the x86 version or x86_64?
[14:15:13] <pranali> PulkoMandy: yup. it indeed is.
[14:15:20] <PulkoMandy> chad7: I only saw your invocation of jam, not of configure
[14:15:29] <chad7> i used ./configure --build-cross-tools x86 ../buildtools/
[14:15:35] <PulkoMandy> oh sorry I missed it
[14:15:46] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/fjJXN
[14:15:48] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes d3d28e8 - Kate: bump version
[14:15:59] <PulkoMandy> ok, this won't work, because you are making a 32bit gcc7 only build, this configuration is not supported anymore
[14:16:11] <superprower> PulkoMandy: doesn't chad7's clone url seem strange to you? Isn't it only for people with direct commit access? Whouldn't they clone review.haiku-os.org ?
[14:16:11] <pranali> PulkoMandy: somehow the recurring initialization of webkit is holding up all other processes.
[14:16:21] <PulkoMandy> for 32bit you have to use ./configure --build-cross-tools x86_gcc2 ../buildtools/ --build-cross-tools x86
[14:16:32] <PulkoMandy> and for 64bit: ./configure --build-cross-tools x86_64 ../buildtools/
[14:16:48] <chad7> I have used for 32 bit and it didnt work
[14:17:20] <chad7> Actually I want to see my name in the contributors section as a part of outreachy task I have done
[14:17:20] <PulkoMandy> pranali: no, with Gerrit anyone can clone using ssh as long as they have set up an ssh private key in Gerrit
[14:17:47] <chad7> Otherwise I have already built haiku from review.haiku-os.org
[14:17:48] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/fjJXh
[14:17:50] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes d947382 - KWrite: bump version
[14:18:07] <pranali> PulkoMandy: i guess you meant to reply to superprower ;)
[14:18:10] <superprower> yep
[14:18:17] * PulkoMandy needs more sleep :>
[14:18:31] <superprower> chad7: do you build from Haiku or other system? Have you built Jam from buildtools directory, in second case?
[14:18:40] <chad7> from other os
[14:18:44] <chad7> linux
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[14:18:54] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/fjJXj
[14:18:55] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 8df24c6 - Marble: bump version
[14:19:00] <chad7> ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[14:19:12] <superprower> chad7: Have you done this? https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building/jam#build_jam
[14:19:15] <PulkoMandy> well, the configure line you used this time won't work. So, first, fix that. You need to remove the generated directory and start over
[14:19:22] <PulkoMandy> if you hit more problems, let us know
[14:19:55] <chad7> I have configured it . I need to build iso image
[14:20:06] <PulkoMandy> pranali: so, it's strange that Web+ would "restart itself". There is no code that should do that, and if it is missing symbols, it shouldn't even be able to start at all
[14:20:47] <PulkoMandy> anyway, maybe try to fix webkit then, but it will be difficult to test this all together
[14:20:53] <pranali> PulkoMandy: could it have something to do within the fact that the class names for BUrl* were changed?
[14:21:11] <pranali> PulkoMandy: yup.
[14:21:18] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/fjJ1U
[14:21:19] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 57aa96e - Gwenview: bump version
[14:21:24] <PulkoMandy> what I would expect is a failure to load with "could not find symbol BUrl-something"
[14:21:33] <PulkoMandy> and it should stop there
[14:21:40] <superprower> chad7: again, you need special fork of Jam to be installed, otherwise it won't work, at least it shouldn't. Follow the instructions in the link I gave above.
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[14:22:10] <pranali> PulkoMandy: I thought so too, but that didn't happen, and that's what is puzzling me
[14:23:15] <PulkoMandy> did you try running it from Terminal? What happens then?
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[14:24:23] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ahh, that i forgot to try. give me a couple of minutes, let me check.
[14:24:43] <pranali> PulkoMandy: is there a verbose mode for web+ ?
[14:25:24] <pranali> can i pass an argument like -v or something to get web+ to print out errors or log messages to the terminal?
[14:27:12] <chad7> superprower: After clearing older config files and generating a new one I get collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status *** The command 'gcc -m32 -o conftest -O2 -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE conftest.c' failed. *** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.
[14:28:34] <superprower> chad7: Have you installed required software, as listed here? https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building/pre-reqs
[14:28:44] <pranali> PulkoMandy: got it. there is an error with libWebKitLegacy. It cannot resolve BUrlSynchronous Request
[14:28:47] <chad7> Yes
[14:29:43] <superprower> chad7: Show me once again commands you used to configure build environment (i.e. how and from where you invoked ./configure)
[14:29:49] <chad7> The thing is generated.x86gcc2 folder is created with all the required folders and files
[14:29:57] <chad7> ok
[14:30:17] <PulkoMandy> pranali: yes, that's more what is expected. So we would need to rebuild webkit from the sources and adjust it to the new method names
[14:31:14] <pranali> PulkoMandy: also seems like attempting to run WebPositive from the terminal does not result in the same issue as i was facing a bit back. WebPositive crashes with a graceful error message on the terminal. However, trying to run it from the Applications menu does cause the blocking issue.
[14:32:51] <pranali> PulkoMandy: how do you propose I go about that. Should I send in a patch for the existing changes first and then start working on webkit since it's on a different repo? Or should I send in a patch only once everything is done across all repositories?
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[14:34:10] <chad7> 1.git clone https://chad7 at git dot haiku-os.org/buildtools 2. git clone https://chad7 at git dot haiku-os.org/haiku 3.mkdir generated.x86gcc2 4. ../configure --build-cross-tools x86_gcc2 ../../buildtools/ --build-cross-tools x86 5. jam -q @nightly-raw
[14:34:40] <PulkoMandy> you can submit the patch as is, just add a note that currently it breaks WebKit
[14:36:28] <pranali> PulkoMandy: okk. i have a silly question for you: should the patch have only one commit for all the changes, or should i break the patch into multiple commits, with one commit per classname change?
[14:36:42] <superprower> chad7: Seems correct for me. I'm going to ask one more time if you have built and installed custom Jam from buildtools directory
[14:37:15] <PulkoMandy> pranali: whichever is more convenient
[14:37:27] <chad7> Yes, jam -v shows Jam 2.5-haiku-20111222. OS=LINUX. Copyright 1993-2002 Christopher Seiwald.
[14:38:10] <PulkoMandy> pranali: as I guess multiple classes are sometimes used in the same file? a single commit is simpler
[14:38:18] <PulkoMandy> did you also build the unit tests?
[14:38:46] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ok, then I'll squash all the individual commits into a single commit so that enyone else does not face too many conflicts while rebasing.
[14:39:06] <superprower> chad7: well, I honestly don't know what to say else. Except use @nightly-anyboot instead of @nightly-raw if you want .iso
[14:39:38] <chad7> ok let me try
[14:40:11] <pranali> PulkoMandy: I have updated the affected files under the src/test directory
[14:41:17] <pranali> PulkoMandy: are there any specific steps that i need to follow to update the testcases apart from the code changes?
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[14:43:01] <pranali> PulkoMandy: I went through https://www.haiku-os.org/documents/dev/unit_testing/ to confirm the location of the unittest files
[14:43:54] <PulkoMandy> jam -q unittests and make sure they still build, at least :)
[14:44:57] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ahh! i remember! these needed to be run within the running instance of haiku right?
[14:46:44] <PulkoMandy> yes, but in this case, if they build it should be good enough
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[14:46:48] <PulkoMandy> since you only changed class names
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[14:48:19] <pranali> PulkoMandy: okk. running the unittests now.
[14:48:24] <chad7> superprower: You can check the error in here https://gist.github.com/Naba7/aa2cce1d655c78fd04c349a24d242c87
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[14:50:21] <superprower> Those 404's seems familiar. Let me check something.
[14:50:24] <chad7> @PukoMandy Can you please check this
[14:50:37] <chad7> my bad @PulkoMandy
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[14:51:42] <superprower> chad7: Yep. Try cloning from https://review.haiku-os.org
[14:52:03] <superprower> I had exaaact same 404, but I had really old clone of Haiku.
[14:52:05] <chad7> I have done and build haiku in Oracle VMWare
[14:52:33] <chad7> I want to see if I can clone my repo and build it
[14:53:09] <superprower> Weird.
[14:53:20] <chad7> yes.
[14:53:55] <Tanyi_Tk> Hello. I am getting the following error on trying to push to gerrit; remote: You need 'Create' rights to create new references.
[14:54:01] <Tanyi_Tk> remote: User: mbengtanyi
[14:54:03] <Tanyi_Tk> remote: Contact an administrator to fix the permissions
[14:54:46] <superprower> chad7: I'm not sure how 'your repo' works, so I won't be of big help here. Just telling you it's the sign of really old repository.
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[15:01:37] <pranali> PulkoMandy: the test cases seem to have run correctly. the last line of the unittest output says ...updated 489 target(s)...
[15:01:54] <pranali> PulkoMandy: does this look ok?
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[15:04:11] <pranali> PulkoMandy: also since I would anyways be putting up a note about the changes breaking webkit should I or should I not include the changes to the BUrlContext classes? Without the changes to the BUrlContext* classes, the image builds just fine, however, with the changes the build fails.
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[15:06:46] <PulkoMandy> you can include them, we will need to fix webkit anyways for this to work
[15:08:09] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ok. will do. sending in the patch now.
[15:08:42] <PulkoMandy> Tanyi_Tk: what did you try? You can push changes for review by pushing to the refs/for/master branch, but pushing to master (or other branches, in fact) directly is not allowed except for a few people
[15:08:59] <PulkoMandy> git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master submits new changes for review, for example
[15:09:11] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ok, maybe after another 10mins running the unittests for the x86_64 build as well.
[15:09:31] <pranali> once that passes, i will submit the patch
[15:09:35] <superprower> PulkoMandy: I collected some registers from working driver and driver in master. Found only two differences, second one being related to Pipe A: https://gist.github.com/SuperPrower/8e82c0d7ae8424b7e2d55c7fa9bcf22d . I set them to the same values, but nothing really happened. What do you think?
[15:09:39] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/fjJ12
[15:09:40] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 9925561 - Avidemux: bump version
[15:09:53] <Tanyi_Tk> Pulkomandy: Tried adding my name to the contributors list.
[15:10:23] <PulkoMandy> I mean, which command did you use :)
[15:10:51] <PulkoMandy> superprower: just setting that single register might not work because there is a sequence to do things
[15:10:59] <PulkoMandy> but ok, at least we're getting somewhere
[15:11:03] <PulkoMandy> let's see what is in these registers
[15:11:13] <Tanyi_Tk> git push gerrit origin
[15:11:18] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjJ1w
[15:11:19] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes a64186d - Telegram: fix description
[15:12:15] <PulkoMandy> Tanyi_Tk: git push gerrit HEAD:refs/for/master
[15:12:25] <PulkoMandy> or git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master
[15:12:25] <Tanyi_Tk> okay
[15:12:30] <PulkoMandy> it depends how you named the remote
[15:12:39] <superprower> Nothing special in first one. For some reason write protection is off, but I don't think correlation with anything.
[15:12:58] <superprower> I didn't bother with writing down Display A/B/C registers, think those could be of any use?
[15:13:08] <PulkoMandy> well, it could be that the old driver never unlocked write protection, and as a result anything it tried to write to the protected registers would be ignored
[15:13:43] <PulkoMandy> and the new driver would try to actually write things, and confuse the hardware because the code never worked :)
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[15:15:13] <PulkoMandy> the second one is 640x480 vs 1024x768, so that should not be too much of a problem either
[15:15:30] <superprower> Don't think so... It only protects panel control and timings, which seem to be the same.
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[15:17:05] <PulkoMandy> http://paste.debian.net/1074444/
[15:17:23] <PulkoMandy> yes, panel control and timings
[15:17:52] <PulkoMandy> the thing is, the final value of the registers is not all there is to it
[15:18:04] <PulkoMandy> the sequence and timings can make a difference too
[15:18:27] <PulkoMandy> so even if the driver eventually puts the registers in the same value, if it does so in the wrong sequence, the hardware remains in some confused state
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[15:24:13] <superprower> I still think I need to check more registers...
[15:25:09] <PulkoMandy> yes, have a look at the other regs first in case there are more differences
[15:25:42] <PulkoMandy> but there deffinitely is a timing problem, I had one machine where the backlight would stay off (as far as I could tell, the display would be still working, eg in direct sunlight I could see things)
[15:25:58] <PulkoMandy> but once I plugged a serial port and enabled serial debug, the problem went away
[15:26:14] <PulkoMandy> (and that machine is now at my parents home running windows)
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[15:33:30] <pranali> PulkoMandy: Here's the patch: https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/1310
[15:33:57] <pranali> PulkoMandy: can you please check it once and let me know if I need to update something within it?
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[15:53:25] <PulkoMandy> pranali: looks ok for the class renaming part, I think the original ticket also meant to replace the BHttp* with BHTTP* as well, and there are some methods that needs to be renamed too (CanBeSetFromUrl -> CanBeSetFromURL in the cookie jar, for example)
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[15:54:36] <pranali> PulkoMandy: yes. Should I send those changes within this patch as well? I was thinking about different patches for each to isolate breaking changes to individual patches.
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[15:58:41] <PulkoMandy> well, separate patches are ok, but in the end we will want to merge it all in one go. Because it's better to break things only once
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[16:09:20] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ok, then I'll update this patch itself
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[16:49:31] <superprower> PulkoMandy: difference between and modern mode setting function is too big for me to notice many similarities and exact changes, but I can't help but notice that modern LVDS mode setting function doesn't wait for 150 uS like older function and like manual says somewhere. Could this be worrying?
[16:50:54] <superprower> nevermind, it does, it just uses new function instead of just using spin() and uses different timings
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[17:04:31] <superprower> Does ssh require any additional configuration before I can use it? My linux client just says nothing. No connection refused, no timeout, nothing.
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[17:09:05] <PulkoMandy> yes, you need to useradd sshd
[17:09:22] <superprower> So those https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/netservices/ instructions are up to date?
[17:10:35] <superprower> Networking settings said that ssh server is on so it confused me a bit
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[17:11:46] <PulkoMandy> network settings just enables it in our equivalent of inetd so that it is started on boot
[17:11:54] <PulkoMandy> but if the sshd user is missing, it won't start
[17:12:04] <PulkoMandy> the openssh package should probably autocreate the user...
[17:12:30] <PulkoMandy> but apparently we prefer to keep that broken and have a webpage explaining every user how to fix it manually
[17:13:07] <superprower> Okay... If I create ~/config/settings/ssh/authorized_keys , would I be able to connect using my RSA key, without enabling root password?
[17:13:18] <superprower> (and put my public key there, obviously)
[17:14:27] <superprower> Yeah, I can, nice
[17:14:33] <PulkoMandy> :)
[17:14:47] <superprower> I don't need to carry driver between two machines on USB stick, finally. Took me long enough to think of that.
[17:19:22] <PulkoMandy> interestingly the openssh package does declare the sshd user
[17:19:28] <PulkoMandy> I assume the feature doesn't work then?
[17:20:12] <PulkoMandy> indeed: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/14382
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[17:29:33] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ping
[17:31:05] <PulkoMandy> just ask your questions :)
[17:31:43] <pranali> PulkoMandy: i tried updating the existing patch however, as the changes to the BHttp class were a separate commit it created a separate patch at: https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/1314
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[17:32:19] <pranali> PulkoMandy: can you check it once. Can / Should these patches be merged?
[17:32:53] <PulkoMandy> well, it's fine this way
[17:33:28] <PulkoMandy> as waddlesplash mentionned yesterday, maybe we don't want to change the ABI now that we're in alpha... I don't know, probably more discussion with the devs is needed
[17:34:06] <PulkoMandy> should the .h, .cpp and .dox files be renamed too?
[17:34:32] <pranali> PulkoMandy: I wasn't sure about that so didn't touch them.
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[17:34:48] <pranali> PulkoMandy: should i rename them?
[17:36:04] <superprower> PulkoMandy: I've just noticed something interesting. I replaced accelerant while current one was working, I was dropped into debugger, but I exited from it and got some artifacts, similar to those I have since I made my hacks. So, maybe I don't even need to reboot to apply applicant? Maybe I just can restart it?
[17:36:36] <PulkoMandy> pranali: I think they should match the class names, so yes
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[17:37:09] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ok, I'll do that right away
[17:37:10] <PulkoMandy> superprower: app_server will try to reload the accelerant, but this is very untested. You risk adding more problems to the ones you already have
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[17:37:29] <PulkoMandy> also if you got the card in a confused state, a reboot may be the only way to fix it
[17:38:41] <superprower> Okay... I found some more registers that are different. I updated the gist if you are interested: https://gist.github.com/SuperPrower/8e82c0d7ae8424b7e2d55c7fa9bcf22d
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[17:47:09] <PulkoMandy> ok, panel fitting has been removed from the new driver
[17:47:26] <PulkoMandy> I had added that trying to implement a "preserve aspect ratio" for non-native modes but it didn't work reliably
[17:47:46] <PulkoMandy> (so you could eg run 1024x768 with black vertical borders on a 16:9 laptop)
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[17:49:15] <superprower> I can see that INTEL_DISPLAY_B_PLL and it's _DIVISOR_'s are different...
[17:50:21] <PulkoMandy> it uses a different clock source apparently (spread spectrum clock instead of DREFCLK)
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[17:52:01] <PulkoMandy> it's possible that this has a different frequency, which would explain different divisors to compensate
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[17:52:31] <PulkoMandy> sounds interesting, so maybe try reverting that to use the previous clock source
[17:53:04] <gordonjcp> which chipset?
[17:53:15] * gordonjcp was in about the intel GMA chipset a few years ago in Haiku
[17:54:45] <PulkoMandy> yes, old Intel chipsets :)
[17:55:33] <gordonjcp> I ran into a thing where my 1680x1050 monitor wouldn't lock
[17:55:34] <pranali> PulkoMandy: pushed the filename changes: https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/1316
[17:55:36] <PulkoMandy> I see in the doc that the spread spectrum clock on display B is "mobile devices only" so, I don't know if it will work for you, since your device is actually from a previous generation and maybe didn't support this at all
[17:55:36] <gordonjcp> using VGA
[17:56:11] <PulkoMandy> pranali: ok, thanks :)
[17:56:12] <gordonjcp> it turned out that the code that set the PLLs was entirely correct as per the reference implementation, which was sort of the problem
[17:56:40] <gordonjcp> it actually needed a moment for the PLL to lock before writing the divisor and adding a usleep(1); gave it enough time for the PLL to pull in
[17:58:56] <pranali> PulkoMandy: are there any other issues that I can look into?
[17:59:24] <pranali> PulkoMandy: also Should I post an update to https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/6921 about the patches?
[17:59:48] <PulkoMandy> yes, add a link there
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[18:00:07] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ok.
[18:00:11] <PulkoMandy> and yes, there are many other issues in the bugtracker :o) but I don't know what you feel is doable for you
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[18:00:52] <superprower> It has some checks for INTEL_TYPE_IGD... do you by chance happen to know what was it renamed to? INTEL_GROUP_PIN?
[18:01:15] <PulkoMandy> PIN is for "pine view" I think
[18:01:32] <PulkoMandy> not sure why kallisti5 thought it was cool to make up 3 letter names and further confuse things :)
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[18:01:53] <superprower> Yeah, there is a comment
[18:02:12] <PulkoMandy> yes, in headers/private/graphics/intel_extreme/intel_extreme.h
[18:02:16] <superprower> I just wonder if those are equivalent constants or I need to look deeper
[18:03:08] <PulkoMandy> IGD is "integrated graphics device" so all later generations I think
[18:03:29] <PulkoMandy> when they moved things from northbridge to CPU
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[18:05:10] <superprower> Yeah, it's the same thing. In drive.cpp they are both INTEL_MODEL(TYPE)_G45
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[18:05:44] <superprower> or... no, wait
[18:05:53] <superprower> anyways, not my cpu, can drop this
[18:06:07] <PulkoMandy> yes, your is in the older generations
[18:06:48] <pranali> PulkoMandy: I'm unable to update the 'Has a Patch' flag for https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/6921. Can you please do that?
[18:07:13] <PulkoMandy> you don't need the flag, it was used before we switched to Gerrit
[18:07:22] <PulkoMandy> just link to the changes in Gerrit, that's enough
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[18:09:33] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ok. I have added a comment with the links to the changes in Gerrit.
[18:10:23] <PulkoMandy> you're all set then :)
[18:11:18] <PulkoMandy> superprower: the reference frequency is set in the driver (intel_extreme.cpp), and it uses 96MHz no matter what
[18:11:31] <PulkoMandy> but I don't know if the spread spectrum clock actually runs at the same frequency
[18:12:09] <PulkoMandy> (it sets reference_frequency in the shared info, so the accelerant can get it from thre)
[18:12:30] <superprower> I honestly don't know where this thing is even set. I thought I found removed bit in mode setting, but it just was moved to the Pipe class.
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[18:13:28] <pranali> PulkoMandy: Yaay! :)
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[18:14:18] <devport> waddlesplash: hello
[18:18:16] <devport> i read linux/hda_intel.c and hda_controller.h and i found quirks for my device
[18:19:04] <devport> and I do fully not understand this quirks :)
[18:19:33] <PulkoMandy> superprower: indeed, the DISPLAY_PLL_* constants do not seem to touch these bytes
[18:20:15] <PulkoMandy> could it be that we didn't do anything to display B? And that's the one we should be setting up because it's wired to the LVDS panel?
[18:22:20] <superprower> Nope, Pipe::ConfigureClocks checks for Pipe Index, and if it's Pipe B, which it is for LVDS, it uses Display B constants.
[18:22:28] <superprower> If I understood you correctly
[18:23:41] <PulkoMandy> ok, but then how do we end up with these bits set?
[18:26:02] <superprower> I wonder how I should read those values... 6000 is 00001100 {00000000
[18:26:10] <superprower> oops
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[18:26:43] <superprower> ignore that
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[18:27:08] <PulkoMandy> well, yes, 6000 is bits 13 and 14 set
[18:27:34] <PulkoMandy> so, from the right, 13 x 0, then 2 x 1
[18:27:38] <superprower> Yep, yep
[18:28:01] <superprower> So they aren't really set, they are NOT set in modern driver, and older, working driver was using them.
[18:28:20] <PulkoMandy> yes, indeed
[18:28:35] <PulkoMandy> and that would match the datasheed which says "use this for LVDS on mobile chipsets"
[18:28:37] <devport> waddlesplash: but all device in haiku QUIRKS used for driver types PCH / SCH, not ICH ... mayby this is problem in linus\hda_intel.c my controller is old
[18:29:04] <superprower> I'm going to try and look that up on working driver
[18:29:08] <PulkoMandy> so... let's try setting them? add a pll |= 0x6000 and see what happens?
[18:29:31] <PulkoMandy> (Pipes.c line 324 or thereabout I think)
[18:30:10] <PulkoMandy> but the divisors are different too
[18:30:20] <PulkoMandy> so I think we will need to adjust the reference frequency
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[18:35:05] <PulkoMandy> the old values are divide by 935 (5 * 17 * 11) and 950 (5 * 19 * 10) if I did not mess up
[18:35:22] <PulkoMandy> new one is divide by 192 (4 * 12 * 4)
[18:35:29] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/fjJyx
[18:35:31] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys be7350d - nano: bump version
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[18:37:35] <PulkoMandy> if the new reference clock is at 96MHz, that would mean, assuming the same output frequency, that the spread spectrum clock is at something like 470MHz, which sounds reasonable, but I don't know where it would come from
[18:37:45] <PulkoMandy> probably need to dig that out from the other volumes of the docs...
[18:37:47] <superprower> I'm curious about what used to set this in working driver. Can't find anything like '0x6000' or '<< 12' or '<< 13' in there..
[18:38:28] <PulkoMandy> there were DISPLAY_PLL constants already?
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[18:44:07] <superprower> There were, but nothing that would operate on those bits or named in a way that would hint at that
[18:44:30] <PulkoMandy> so I assume it didn't touch them
[18:44:46] <PulkoMandy> possibly it did read-modify-write on the registers, or it only set things on pipe a, then
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[18:48:59] <superprower> So what do I need to do to set reference frequency and divider?
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[18:51:37] <PulkoMandy> for a test, just hardcode the old register value at Pipes.c line 324 just before actually writing the registers
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[18:54:13] <superprower> Do I need to also update FPB0 and FPB1 ? Or just DPLLB is enough?
[18:55:58] <brj> Although I found documentation on the vnode layer, I couldn't find any documentation for Haiku's filesystem tree operations API (I checked here https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/api/files.html).
[18:56:17] <brj> Does anybody know where I can find it? :/
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[19:01:22] <PulkoMandy> all 3 of them, otherwise you will get wrong timings
[19:01:49] <PulkoMandy> brj: for internals docs, you are more likely to find info in docs/develop
[19:02:13] <PulkoMandy> or just ask one of the developers who knows about filesystems. axeld, korli, mmu_man may be able to help for example
[19:02:26] <PulkoMandy> easiest way is probably asking on the haiku-development mailing list
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[19:08:29] <superprower> Nope, nothing happened... Tried both values, from old FPB0 (because old driver wrote there) and FPB1 (just in case).
[19:10:57] <mmu_man> brj: hmm yeah I don't think it's been well documented
[19:11:02] <mmu_man> and it has changed a bit over time
[19:14:32] <superprower> I dumped registers using tool in linux. It has slightly different FPB{0,1} from both versions. I'll try them, I think
[19:14:34] <brj> Can I do the documentation as part of my GSoC project (ofcourse, along with implementing write supports for btrfs)?
[19:15:00] <PulkoMandy> yes
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[19:19:58] <adamfowleruk> hmmm... Looks like I spoke too soon with the network driver working on my laptop. DHCP_DISCOVER is being sent, but nothing received. Anyone seen this before? Changed network cable and both switch and router, no joy
[19:20:29] <adamfowleruk> Physical layer connects 1000BASE-T
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