March 19, 2019 
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March 19, 2019 [00:00:19] *** HaikuNoob <HaikuNoob!~vision452@ppp-62-216-200-128.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #haiku[00:00:22] *** JoJoDe <JoJoDe!~textual@p200300EB5F2F37621519A946292B60CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[00:00:42] *** JoJoDe <JoJoDe!~Joachim@p200300EB5F2F37621519A946292B60CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[00:01:24] *** bobby <bobby!~Bob@2600:1700:31f0:8180:8df6:fb71:3079:1bbb> has joined #haiku[00:01:44] <HaikuNoob> how can I compile something with SDL2? Does the SDL2 package include the headers or where can I get them?[00:07:32] *** Androo <Androo!~andy-gild@174-086-073-152.dhcp.chtrptr.net> has joined #haiku[00:09:20] *** JoJoDe <JoJoDe!~Joachim@p200300EB5F2F37621519A946292B60CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[00:09:39] *** JoJoDe <JoJoDe!~Joachim@p200300EB5F2F37621519A946292B60CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[00:10:51] *** bobby <bobby!~Bob@2600:1700:31f0:8180:8df6:fb71:3079:1bbb> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:11:13] *** leavengood <leavengood!~leavengoo@c-73-179-57-153.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[00:11:49] <Androo> HaikuNoob: pkgman install libsdl2_devel ?[00:13:37] <jjpx> HaikuNoob, headers are in _devel packages[00:16:02] <waddlesplash> it's leavengood![00:16:59] <leavengood> yay[00:17:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o leavengood[00:17:31] <waddlesplash> there, have some ops :p[00:19:13] <HaikuNoob> why does haikudepot not show that? There's a development section.[00:19:35] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@ec2-13-211-176-54.ap-southeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[00:20:08] <jjpx> you need to enable it from menu[00:20:11] <Androo> HaikuNoob: I would assume the development section is for development *apps* not header packages.[00:20:14] <Androo> ?[00:20:37] <jjpx> there you have show devel and show source packages[00:22:14] <HaikuNoob> Wow thx a lot jjpx.[00:22:53] <waddlesplash> Androo: is your XHCI now fixed?[00:22:58] <Androo> waddlesplash: I think so![00:23:01] <waddlesplash> :D[00:23:31] <Androo> Not sure which commit did it, but haven't seen the problem for a bit.[00:29:01] *** bobby <bobby!~Bob@2600:1700:31f0:8180:85e3:bae1:c5de:c626> has joined #haiku[00:34:54] <Androo> waddlesplash: If you're looking for something new to fix, the crash that occurs when resizing the Terminal window while pkgman is downloading would be nice :D[00:35:14] *** Bob- <Bob-!~Bob@2600:1700:31f0:8180:5163:928f:49dc:b31b> has joined #haiku[00:36:20] *** bobby <bobby!~Bob@2600:1700:31f0:8180:85e3:bae1:c5de:c626> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:36:53] <Androo> waddlesplash: I looked at it but the problem goes far too deep for me.[00:38:05] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~AlienSold@modemcable087.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[00:39:20] <waddlesplash> Androo: PulkoMandy did a similar fix inside wget but I don't know about the HTTP kit[00:41:28] *** Prognoz <Prognoz!~Prognoz@181.231.204.129> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:42:04] *** Bob- <Bob-!~Bob@2600:1700:31f0:8180:5163:928f:49dc:b31b> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:42:41] *** bobby <bobby!~Bob@76.202.115.164> has joined #haiku[00:45:21] *** JoJoDe <JoJoDe!~Joachim@p200300EB5F2F37621519A946292B60CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[00:50:49] *** HaikuNoob <HaikuNoob!~vision452@ppp-62-216-200-128.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[00:52:15] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[01:06:24] *** cmkat <cmkat!~cmkat@181.135.127.10> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:09:16] *** Psud0nym <Psud0nym!~Psud0nym@c-73-207-186-168.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[01:14:54] *** kupi <kupi!uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-whbkpyftvvmdcliq> has joined #haiku[01:15:42] *** Maturion <Maturion!~Maturion@p200300EDE704EF0004DAFE75A5759EA1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:15:55] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~MrHuggy@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:16:22] *** Psud0nym <Psud0nym!~Psud0nym@c-73-207-186-168.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[01:18:07] <Androo> waddlesplash: Thanks for all the XHCI work, it's really making Haiku feel stable on this hardware. So much good work from everyone, giving BeOS new life and providing a real open-source desktop operating system on PC hardware is such a noble goal. Trying to figure out how to contribute myself, I feel improving printing might be a good place for me.[01:18:30] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has joined #haiku[01:19:18] <waddlesplash> Androo: :D[01:21:21] <Androo> mDNS/AirPrint sounds like it might be fun? What's your opinion of the print server?[01:21:54] *** Psud0nym <Psud0nym!~Psud0nym@c-73-207-186-168.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[01:22:52] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:27:41] *** devyl <devyl!devylmatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rcdevjabczhmjraz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:27:50] *** harshjain[m] <harshjain[m]!harshjainm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-gkwpbfrodcwyyhqy> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:27:52] *** cypa[m] <cypa[m]!cypamatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-hqmhvktqlbwpqfjy> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:27:54] *** RasmusRendal[m] <RasmusRendal[m]!rasmusrend@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xughcsarukmtvlwe> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:28:00] *** kudousaurav[m] <kudousaurav[m]!kudousaura@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-sqcyswgcmhipnrmz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:28:01] *** leer10matrixorg[ <leer10matrixorg[!leer10matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rhsobftkscgvzbex> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:28:05] *** dcro[m] <dcro[m]!dcromatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-sgkzwxtaifvwkvtf> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:28:05] <waddlesplash> Androo: print server is OK, the print libraries need some major rework[01:28:12] <waddlesplash> but that will include a lot of refactor of the print server too[01:28:28] *** jwgarber <jwgarber!~jwgarber@70.40.141.177> has joined #haiku[01:31:31] *** nekron <nekron!~nekron@85.214.112.32> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[01:32:21] <AlienSoldier> is the USB joysticks operational now? I was waiting to get some USB one (only have old sound card one yet) and waited to see if progress was made?[01:32:55] *** nekron <nekron!~nekron@noordsee.de> has joined #haiku[01:33:02] <AlienSoldier> i know we don't have joystick/joypad pref panel[01:35:11] *** cypa[m] <cypa[m]!cypamatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-nwmvllooksgvjuav> has joined #haiku[01:36:33] <Androo> waddlesplash: I suppose I will have to dig a bit into libprint then. My goal is to be able to print from WebPositive to an AirPrint printer, would be lovely, I do that a lot on other OSes.[01:39:19] <AlienSoldier> i hope one day printing text protocole go away and we decide to generalize to some kind of CNC protocol.[01:41:05] <Androo> AlienSoldier: Just so we don't re-invent g-code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-code).[01:44:49] <AlienSoldier> well almost like that but it need to be more generalized[01:46:08] *** devyl <devyl!devylmatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xwuhlebygfekrqjn> has joined #haiku[01:46:08] *** dcro[m] <dcro[m]!dcromatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-eqelkrkqxgnvxowf> has joined #haiku[01:46:08] *** leer10matrixorg[ <leer10matrixorg[!leer10matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-yeeyzewgiihsupvw> has joined #haiku[01:46:09] *** kudousaurav[m] <kudousaurav[m]!kudousaura@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-vnpozqdflpcrtrta> has joined #haiku[01:46:15] *** harshjain[m] <harshjain[m]!harshjainm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fapkdozvrrthpcax> has joined #haiku[01:46:15] *** RasmusRendal[m] <RasmusRendal[m]!rasmusrend@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-nnmfddzpqbpxqyhq> has joined #haiku[01:48:12] <waddlesplash> Androo: IPP printing work,. it just is clunky[02:10:06] <yutayu> .[02:10:09] *** Psud0nym <Psud0nym!~Thunderbi@c-73-207-186-168.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[02:14:05] <waddlesplash> yutayu: ?[02:16:00] <yutayu> sorry , type miss waddlesplash[02:16:52] <waddlesplash> k :)[02:18:21] *** Tanyi_Tk <Tanyi_Tk!~valentina@129.0.79.223> has joined #haiku[02:20:31] <yutayu> I use netsurf sometimes. :)[02:22:04] <AlienSoldier> i like netsurf for news site[02:22:20] <AlienSoldier> lot less assle with invasive ads[02:22:32] <yutayu> I see.[02:23:19] <AlienSoldier> would be nice to have settings overall in webpositive and also by bookmark.[02:23:45] <yutayu> AlienSoldier:Do you check on hides adverts checkbox?[02:24:21] <AlienSoldier> on some site i want them[02:24:27] <yutayu> I see.[02:24:34] <AlienSoldier> on other site i only want text[02:24:53] <yutayu> me , too.[02:25:02] <yutayu> mine is 3.6. a little bit old .[02:25:23] <AlienSoldier> i have 3.8[02:25:36] <yutayu> compiled ? okay.[02:25:52] <AlienSoldier> got it srom the haiku depot[02:25:55] <AlienSoldier> *from[02:26:17] <AlienSoldier> 29 august 2018 it say[02:26:38] <yutayu> I see.[02:26:40] <AlienSoldier> but date say 27.01.2019[02:26:41] <yutayu> ah[02:26:52] <yutayu> haiku depo . Mine is for linux raspbian.[02:27:20] <yutayu> Debian depo says 3.6 is new.[02:27:24] <yutayu> ,too[02:28:22] <AlienSoldier> 3.8 is the last one according to the official site[02:28:45] <yutayu> yes i know[02:30:01] <AlienSoldier> you make me think i wanted to see riscOS on raspberry 3, will have to hunt a video :)[02:30:17] <yutayu> hehe :P[02:30:25] *** Psud0nym <Psud0nym!~Thunderbi@c-73-207-186-168.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> has left #haiku[02:30:55] <yutayu> lightweight[02:31:02] <yutayu> risc and haiku[02:31:07] <Tanyi_Tk> Hello. I'm Tanyi. New here. Outreachy applicant and I wish to contribute to documenting the haiku book with @PulkoMandy as mentor. I am a beginner in Python and C++ and would like to expand my knowledge by working on this project. I am not sure if "building haiku" and "installing haiku" mean the same thing as per the instructions. Please I need help.[02:32:57] <LadySerena> mew mew Tanyi_Tk[02:33:41] <krbtgt> building i think means building haiku from the source code[02:33:43] <waddlesplash> Tanyi_Tk: no, they don't mean the same thing[02:33:51] <waddlesplash> yes, building means from source[02:33:54] <krbtgt> installing means installation from install media[02:34:03] <krbtgt> (which can be created as a result of building)[02:35:25] <Tanyi_Tk> Okay. Thank you everyone.[02:36:41] *** eschatologist <eschatologist!~chanson@c-76-126-113-109.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[02:37:09] *** eschatologist <eschatologist!~chanson@2601:646:8181:5bf:1579:f0f3:3efe:55be> has joined #haiku[02:38:26] <Tanyi_Tk> Hi @LadySerena. Please what does "mew mew" mean?[02:38:37] <LadySerena> it's the sound a kitten makes[02:39:03] <Tanyi_Tk> :-D[02:39:03] <nepugia> Interstingly that is different in different cultures[02:39:24] <nepugia> meow, miau, nyaa, are just three variations i can think of of the top of my head[02:40:08] * yutayu tring compile[02:40:47] <LadySerena> I'm a kitty![02:41:05] *** Tanyi_Tk <Tanyi_Tk!~valentina@129.0.79.223> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:41:42] *** Tanyi_Tk <Tanyi_Tk!~valentina@129.0.79.222> has joined #haiku[02:44:22] *** Tanyi_Tk <Tanyi_Tk!~valentina@129.0.79.222> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:45:06] *** Tanyi_Tk <Tanyi_Tk!~valentina@129.0.79.242> has joined #haiku[02:49:55] <Tanyi_Tk> oh I see :-)[03:04:50] *** nepugia_ <nepugia_!~nepugia@200116b864cfae00d25099fffe4e8f9a.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[03:06:35] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:06:56] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[03:07:06] *** nepugia <nepugia!~nepugia@200116b8646b6e00d25099fffe4e8f9a.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[03:08:10] *** brj <brj!~brj@203.109.108.114> has joined #haiku[03:13:07] *** Qatz <Qatz!~DB@2601:187:8400:5::83c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:13:33] *** Qatz <Qatz!~DB@2601:187:8400:5::83c> has joined #haiku[03:15:00] <yutayu> AlienSoldier:successed ty :)[03:19:42] *** jjpx <jjpx!~jjpx@gateway/tor-sasl/jjpx> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:25:38] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@114.252.38.139> has joined #haiku[03:26:53] *** Androo <Androo!~andy-gild@174-086-073-152.dhcp.chtrptr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[03:34:36] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.46.224.35> has joined #haiku[03:38:39] *** mutin-sa <mutin-sa!~s-mutin@85.234.114.134> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:40:08] *** mutin-sa <mutin-sa!~s-mutin@85.234.114.134> has joined #haiku[04:11:29] *** DepositePirate <DepositePirate!~dpirate@gateway/tor-sasl/depositepirate> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[04:12:12] *** DepositePirate <DepositePirate!~dpirate@gateway/tor-sasl/depositepirate> has joined #haiku[04:14:29] <AlienSoldier> 174K view, not bad haiku exposure.[04:14:31] <AlienSoldier> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQyMS5q5H5s[04:22:54] *** pranali <pranali!7bc9c239@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.201.194.57> has joined #haiku[04:24:38] <pranali> PulkoMandy: ping[04:25:10] <waddlesplash> pranali: he's in France[04:25:23] <waddlesplash> so he probably will not be awake until 3-4h from now[04:25:42] <pranali> ahh! thanks waddlesplash[04:26:10] *** elkalamar__ <elkalamar__!elkalamar@unaffiliated/elkalamar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[04:26:42] <pranali> Is there anybody here who can give me a little bit more information about the outreachy project application process for Haiku?[04:27:44] *** elkalamar__ <elkalamar__!elkalamar@unaffiliated/elkalamar> has joined #haiku[04:36:21] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[04:36:49] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.46.224.35> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[04:41:42] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~AlienSold@modemcable087.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[04:43:58] <DHowett> pxe booting is so cool. i know it's old tech, but when it works i can't help but marvel[04:47:16] *** Tanyi_Tk <Tanyi_Tk!~valentina@129.0.79.242> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:47:17] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~matt@pool-108-52-159-210.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:49:16] *** nanashi0000 <nanashi0000!~nanashi04@softbank219193026203.bbtec.net> has joined #haiku[04:50:23] <nanashi0000> こんにちは[04:52:07] <waddlesplash> nanashi0000: English here please; for JP use #haiku-jp[04:56:34] <nanashi0000> sorry[05:04:32] *** kupi <kupi!uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-whbkpyftvvmdcliq> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[05:04:34] *** brj <brj!~brj@203.109.108.114> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[05:19:32] <waddlesplash> nanashi0000: no need to apologize :)[05:19:35] *** nepugia_ <nepugia_!~nepugia@200116b864cfae00d25099fffe4e8f9a.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[05:20:07] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has joined #haiku[05:20:40] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@183.83.48.155> has joined #haiku[05:24:38] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[05:26:02] <jwgarber> hello everyone[05:26:57] <nanashi0000> hello[05:35:33] *** S1mpleBrain <S1mpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[05:35:34] *** SimpleBrain 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hello guys[12:46:39] <Rajagopalan-Gang> i have a class which inherits from BView[12:46:54] <Rajagopalan-Gang> But the constructors are not matching the calls[12:47:24] <dewf> calls from where?[12:48:01] <Rajagopalan-Gang> hmm[12:48:14] <Rajagopalan-Gang> one sec let me frame it properlt[12:48:28] <Rajagopalan-Gang> so i have class X inheriting from BView[12:48:55] <Rajagopalan-Gang> there is one constructor for X with (const char*)[12:49:18] <Rajagopalan-Gang> But the compiler tells me BView::Bview() does not match any definitions[12:49:32] <Rajagopalan-Gang> when i try to use X* temp=new X("Hello")[12:50:06] <dewf> ah right. so in your X class constructor,[12:50:18] <Rajagopalan-Gang> yeah?[12:50:19] <dewf> you need to invoke a BView constructor of your choosing[12:50:25] <Rajagopalan-Gang> oh ok got it[12:50:29] <Rajagopalan-Gang> thank you :)[12:50:48] <dewf> so like MySubClass(const char *whatever) : BView(something something) { <body of MySubClass ctor> }[12:51:55] *** liuyb1 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haiku?[14:03:38] <dewf> Rajagopalan: make sure you're compiling it with debug symbols[14:03:57] <dewf> should be a gcc option I guess, what are you using to compile?[14:04:02] <Rajagopalan> ninja[14:04:06] <Rajagopalan> and cmake[14:04:20] <dewf> k let me see if I can find the switch somewhere[14:04:27] <Rajagopalan> thank you :)[14:05:14] <Rajagopalan> brb[14:05:44] <dewf> rakesh4545: I don't know but the knowledgeable people are probably asleep right now, maybe ask again in a few hours[14:07:57] <jjpx> for gcc the switch is -g[14:09:46] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@183.83.48.191> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[14:15:24] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:15:42] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@smtp.terhuerne.de> has joined #haiku[14:15:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[14:16:45] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@111.193.29.163> has joined #haiku[14:16:46] <axeld> rakesh4545: If you're comfortable with makefiles: https://github.com/axeld/driveencryption/blob/master/makefile#L50 contains a rule to build a package[14:17:30] <axeld> rakesh4545: The only other interesting file is this https://github.com/axeld/driveencryption/blob/master/.PackageInfo[14:18:20] <axeld> rakesh4545: Other than that, this link might be helpful, too: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki[14:22:50] *** rakesh4545 <rakesh4545!~rakesh@2405:204:c182:f778:8873:4084:6fe1:631c> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:31:54] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~AlienSold@modemcable087.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[14:33:27] *** Megaf <Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:45:08] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@smtp.terhuerne.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:47:06] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@smtp.terhuerne.de> has joined #haiku[14:47:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[14:53:18] *** hUMUNGUs 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<mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[15:46:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[15:47:46] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@219.137.63.113> has joined #haiku[15:47:55] <matthewstar> there is be88basic app?[15:50:07] *** Megaf <Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:50:07] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@130.255.123.65> has joined #haiku[15:50:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[15:50:21] <matthewstar> if i remanber it was deved by Shinta ...[15:50:31] *** Megaf <Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf> has joined #haiku[15:51:01] *** S1mpleBrain <S1mpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[15:51:43] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[15:55:42] <Rajagopalan> what is a segmentation violation (will nullptr cause this error)[15:55:50] <Rajagopalan> any help leorize dewf[15:56:20] <dewf> Rajagopalan: I take it this is your first foray into C++ programming ?[15:56:43] <Rajagopalan> actually no[15:56:49] <Rajagopalan> i came across segmentation fault[15:57:12] <Rajagopalan> but those were caused when i access out of bounds memory[15:57:26] <Rajagopalan> im not familiar with haiku programming[15:57:32] <leorize> it's the same everywhere[15:57:33] <dewf> it should be the same thing[15:57:58] <Rajagopalan> ok cool[15:58:07] <leorize> you are not supposed to access memory that's not owned by your process[15:58:10] <Rajagopalan> thank you guys :)[15:58:50] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@219.137.63.113> has quit IRC (Quit: andyhuzhill)[15:58:58] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@ec2-13-55-224-169.ap-southeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)[15:59:42] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:00:00] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[16:03:39] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@2001:ee0:4101:88c9::5f9b> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[16:03:44] <mmu_man> FWIW, Mozilla is about to remove the BEOS ifdefs in NSPR: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1535665[16:03:51] <mmu_man> we might want to upstream our patches first[16:03:54] <mmu_man> or they'll break :p[16:04:06] <mmu_man> or even replace them directly[16:06:44] *** nick8325 <nick8325!~user@h-79-136-64-106.NA.cust.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Quit: ERC (IRC client for Emacs 25.3.1))[16:07:42] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@2001:ee0:4101:88c9:a37f:eec4:5e70:ef8> has joined #haiku[16:09:43] <mmu_man> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/3700[16:11:10] *** k_ <k_!0e62a481@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.98.164.129> has joined #haiku[16:12:04] <k_> what push command should I use for submitting patch in already existing topic?[16:13:46] *** Megaf <Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:20:32] *** matthewstar 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*** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@130.255.123.65> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:48:37] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[16:48:51] *** S1mpleBrain <S1mpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:50:43] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@smtp.terhuerne.de> has joined #haiku[16:50:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[16:52:49] *** nighty- <nighty-!~nighty@b157153.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:58:18] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@smtp.terhuerne.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[17:00:21] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:01:13] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[17:02:08] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:02:28] <k_> I'm getting this error: "HEAD -> refs/for/master/I0bed0f30a00eb985e4295889a10f17782eedce92 (commit 44cb575: missing subject; Change-Id must be in message footer)"[17:03:53] <leavengood> For Gerrit you need to add a special commit hook to Git which adds Change-Id. This lets Gerrit figure out that a commit is modifying the same change when you make improvements based on feedback.[17:04:07] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[17:04:29] <leavengood> https://git.eclipse.org/r/Documentation/user-changeid.html[17:04:45] <leavengood> Replace the URL in that documentation with the Haiku Gerrit URL.[17:06:08] <leavengood> Once you have this, do git commit --amend to add the change-id[17:06:21] <leavengood> Verify with git log -1[17:06:39] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[17:06:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[17:09:39] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[17:09:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[17:11:13] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[17:15:04] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:15:36] <k_> leavengood: thanks, it worked[17:18:24] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@cpe-72-224-177-7.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[17:24:53] *** brj <brj!~brj@219.91.254.91> has joined #haiku[17:26:12] <humdinger> leavengood: Is anything missing from https://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/CodingGuidelines/SubmittingPatches ?[17:27:36] *** Chain^Q is now known as Chain|Q[17:32:56] <jjpx> humdinger, it does not mention the git-hook, only the manual procedure to add the hash[17:40:31] <humdinger> jjpx: I don't remember doing that... it's definitely needed?[17:50:01] <jjpx> humdinger, not required but it definitely helps with amends[17:52:05] <humdinger> jjpx: so that'll add the Commit-Id automatically?[17:52:18] <LadySerena> wakey wakey kitty kitty[17:52:46] <humdinger> kitty stretches[17:52:58] <jjpx> iirc it sets up the first commit-id[17:53:15] <LadySerena> =^_^=[17:53:16] <jjpx> and keeps it when doing amends[17:53:36] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[17:53:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[17:53:58] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!Vision@66-189-149-55.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com> has joined #haiku[17:54:42] <humdinger> jjpx: I'll try that, though I dunno when I'll create the next patch... thanks![17:55:03] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[18:02:03] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@111.193.29.163> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:10:47] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:11:06] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[18:15:02] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:15:29] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[18:15:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[18:16:46] <leavengood> That is only needed for Gerrit. Honestly I am still figuring out the new procedures myself after a long hiatus. But I have used Gerrit at work.[18:17:21] <leavengood> Some of us can also can push commits directly, in which case the Change Id is not needed.[18:19:24] <leavengood> So maybe adding it manually only for Gerrit changes makes sense.[18:26:05] *** k_ <k_!0e62a481@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.98.164.129> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:29:29] *** pranali <pranali!7bc934de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.201.52.222> has joined #haiku[18:30:55] <pranali> PulkoMandy: hey! Are you around?[18:31:53] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@sdi.iut-valence.fr> has joined #haiku[18:31:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[18:32:39] *** dewf <dewf!~dewf@cpe-68-206-152-179.elp.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:34:23] <pranali> PulkoMandy: I am planning to apply for the Complete API documentation (the Haiku Book) project and have completed building Haiku with my name added to the Contributors section and have taken the screenshot for the same as well. Now I am a bit confused about the next steps.[18:36:18] *** johnny_b <johnny_b!~vision@unaffiliated/johnny-b/x-2136417> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:37:01] <pranali> Should I add this screenshot to https://www.outreachy.org/may-2019-august-2019-outreachy-internships/communities/haiku/complete-api-documentation-the-haiku-book/contributions/add/ as a contribution first and then start looking into tickets marked as "easy" in the issue tracker related to API documentation, or should I do something else?[18:37:11] *** nepugia <nepugia!~nepugia@200116b864cfae00d25099fffe4e8f9a.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[18:37:18] <pranali> Am I missing something here?[18:37:48] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0e@host31-54-226-108.range31-54.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:39:15] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@2001:ee0:4101:88c9:a37f:eec4:5e70:ef8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:40:56] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@14.231.193.223> has joined #haiku[18:44:55] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:49:20] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@183.83.48.191> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:52:09] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[18:52:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[18:53:55] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@host31-54-226-108.range31-54.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[19:03:21] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@host31-54-226-108.range31-54.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:08:49] *** nodachi <nodachi!~vision@unaffiliated/johnny-b/x-2136417> has joined #haiku[19:09:59] *** nodachi <nodachi!~vision@unaffiliated/johnny-b/x-2136417> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:10:22] *** nodachi <nodachi!~vision@apn-151-0-90-197.vodafone.hu> has joined #haiku[19:10:23] *** nodachi <nodachi!~vision@apn-151-0-90-197.vodafone.hu> has quit IRC (Changing host)[19:10:23] *** nodachi <nodachi!~vision@unaffiliated/johnny-b/x-2136417> has joined #haiku[19:10:34] *** nodachi is now known as johnny_b[19:11:06] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:12:05] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[19:13:21] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@77.79.212.94> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:13:38] *** tsundoku <tsundoku!~tsundoku@irc.tsundoku.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:15:02] *** tsundoku <tsundoku!~tsundoku@irc.tsundoku.ne.jp> has joined #haiku[19:17:26] *** KapiX <KapiX!~Thunderbi@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has joined #haiku[19:17:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KapiX[19:20:17] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has joined #haiku[19:20:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[19:33:36] *** HAIKU-irker663 <HAIKU-irker663!~irker@walter.haiku-os.org> has joined #haiku[19:33:36] <HAIKU-irker663> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev53001 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7f94422796ec+%5E9fef538b5b28[19:33:36] <HAIKU-irker663> 7f94422796ec: docker/bootstrap: Add vim/nano to assist in bootstrap[19:33:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-irker663[19:36:01] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@sdi.iut-valence.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:36:46] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@sdi.iut-valence.fr> has joined #haiku[19:36:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[19:44:34] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:47:03] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-188-110-161-096.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[19:50:03] *** Androo <Androo!~andy-gild@174-086-073-152.dhcp.chtrptr.net> has joined #haiku[19:52:03] <Androo> Hmm. Google's new game streaming service running on Haiku would be fun.[19:53:23] *** bos20k <bos20k!~bos20k@50-198-103-109-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye.)[19:54:12] *** brj <brj!~brj@219.91.254.91> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[19:54:59] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[19:54:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[20:02:50] *** abhinav__ <abhinav__!uid266159@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bisqciveabofvcjv> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:02:59] <PulkoMandy> pranali: hi, you must send your sourcecode changes to Gerrit, then add the URL to the change review as your contribution[20:03:19] <PulkoMandy> you don't really need the screenshot, we will trust you that you have got haiku to build and run and that you can test your changes[20:05:49] *** pranali <pranali!7bc934de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.201.52.222> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[20:35:06] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:35:23] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@host31-54-226-108.range31-54.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[20:35:31] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[20:40:41] *** brj <brj!~brj@219.91.254.91> has joined #haiku[20:42:57] *** Glider_IRC_ <Glider_IRC_!~Glider_IR@37.170.163.56> has joined #haiku[20:45:28] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:46:27] *** Glider_IRC__ <Glider_IRC__!~Glider_IR@37.164.154.122> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:50:31] *** Maturion <Maturion!~Maturion@p200300EDE7291100F02837BC048CCB69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:54:04] *** pranali <pranali!7bc934de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.201.52.222> has joined #haiku[20:54:44] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[20:54:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[20:56:45] <pranali> PulkoMandy: Thank you! I'll send my changes to gerrit. However, is it ok to send my changes to gerrit to add my name to the contributors list, since I haven't yet made any significant contributions to Haiku?[20:57:13] <PulkoMandy> yes, we will not merge the change yet, but it allows you to try and understand how Gerrit works[20:57:27] <PulkoMandy> then you can focus on making actual code changes and submitting them the same way[20:57:53] <jjpx> please include in your commit message that it is part of outreachy[20:59:41] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has joined #haiku[21:01:21] *** pranali <pranali!7bc934de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.201.52.222> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:01:23] *** pranali_ <pranali_!7bc9367c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.201.54.124> has joined #haiku[21:01:48] *** kupi <kupi!uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uiavkdlfuylgbbgi> has joined #haiku[21:02:19] <pranali_> jjpx: sure! I'll do that! :)[21:02:35] <pranali_> Also, are there any specific issues on trac that I can start looking into to get started with on the contributions end? I checked out the ticket in trac already but I'm not sure about which issue might be a good starting point for me.[21:03:29] <PulkoMandy> it depends on your knowledge and skills[21:03:41] <PulkoMandy> and what motivates you[21:03:47] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:03:49] *** brj <brj!~brj@219.91.254.91> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[21:04:06] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[21:06:39] *** baraquiel <baraquiel!~baraquiel@ip238.ip-178-32-60.eu> has joined #haiku[21:10:03] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: I am interested in technical contributions, however, to get a bit more acquainted with the API documentation project, I went through docs/ directory within the repository. Specifically the HOWTO document within the docs/user directory. Are there any issues specific to the API documentation that I can start looing into? I want to get a bit more familiar with the formats to follow while adding comments to the header and/o[21:10:19] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:10:56] <pranali_> are there any specific header files that I can start working upon which might be a good starting point?[21:11:15] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[21:12:19] *** Glider_IRC_ <Glider_IRC_!~Glider_IR@37.170.163.56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:13:29] <Not-5be1> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+12/-2/±1] https://git.io/fjfmv[21:13:30] <Not-5be1> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 c1ef01d - k8s: Expand k8s helpers, improve docs[21:13:43] *** Glider_IRC <Glider_IRC!~Glider_IR@37.170.163.56> has joined #haiku[21:14:32] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@sdi.iut-valence.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:16:47] <PulkoMandy> pranali_[21:17:01] <PulkoMandy> yes, many header files are not documented at api.haiku-os.org[21:17:25] <PulkoMandy> for example Gradient.h, or Url.h. Both are I think quite simple and not too hard to understand[21:20:32] *** johnny_b <johnny_b!~vision@unaffiliated/johnny-b/x-2136417> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[21:21:15] *** johnny_b <johnny_b!~johnny@unaffiliated/johnny-b/x-2136417> has joined #haiku[21:23:15] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: yup! I was just comparing the docs/user/support/Architechture.dox file with the headers/os/support/Architecture.h and src/kits/support/Architecture.cpp files to understand the work[21:23:25] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: it seems quite simple so far[21:24:00] <PulkoMandy> yes, there is nothing complex about this, the difficult part is finding what each method does exactly (because, of course, there is no documentation)[21:24:39] <pranali_> however, going by the description that is given for each of the methods defined in the header file I am curious to understand how would I know what each method exactly does.[21:25:15] <pranali_> for now I am doing text search throughout the repository to find matches for the method names[21:25:41] <pranali_> however, that does not really seem to be a very efficient method[21:25:50] *** ClaudioM <ClaudioM!~ClaudioM@168.221.158.55> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[21:26:33] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: yes! exactly! Any tips on how I can get a better understanding of what exactly each of the methods does?[21:27:39] *** kwa <kwa!~kyle@104.220.39.175> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:27:45] <PulkoMandy> well, reading the implementation in the C++ file should give you an idea[21:27:58] <PulkoMandy> and indeed, looking in other places where the method is used[21:28:20] <PulkoMandy> (I use "git grep" a lot to locate references to a method, but we have some online reference tools known as opengrok too)[21:28:58] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: ok, I will look into opengrok as well then.[21:28:59] <PulkoMandy> http://xref.plausible.coop/source/search?q=&defs=&refs=MessageReceived&path=&hist=&type=&project=haiku[21:29:23] <PulkoMandy> and if after all that something is still not clear, just ask, here or on the mailing list[21:29:39] <PulkoMandy> and if no one knows, write a small test program to find out[21:29:59] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: ahh! that's helpful! Thank you so much.[21:33:07] <pranali_> I'll dig into the repository a bit more.[21:34:49] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: So far I have found 11 header files missing documentation, including UTF8.h, Url.h, StringList.h, StackOrHeapArray.h, Job.h, etc[21:35:33] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: I'll look into these files a bit more then.[21:35:37] <PulkoMandy> I think there are more than that, but start with one that looks simple enough, we can handle them one at a time[21:37:15] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: Yes, there are quite a lot more than that, these are just the ones that I have found so far. I'm looking for an easy one to get started with.[21:37:59] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has joined #haiku[21:39:39] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[21:39:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[21:42:11] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: I am actually pretty excited about this project. I have always wanted to have some meaningful contributions, and this project seems quite interesting since I'll get to learn the internals of the source code itself. Once I work on the documentation, hopefully I would be able to contribute to actual c++ code.[21:42:55] <PulkoMandy> I hope so :)[21:43:16] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: I am hoping that it would help me get a better grasp at c++ as well.[21:45:03] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: In the meanwhile, please do let me know if there are some easy bugs that I can look into as well. I will try my best to contribute as much as possible! :)[21:45:32] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:45:34] <PulkoMandy> well, if you want to work on that project, starting to work on related problems (documenting some headers) seems the best thing to do[21:46:16] <leavengood> The Haiku style of C++ is pretty simple and easy to work with IMO, so it makes a good place to learn C++.[21:46:29] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: yes! that would be most helpful![21:48:39] *** lilnick <lilnick!~quassel@78.52.214.193.static.cust.telenor.com> has joined #haiku[21:48:41] <pranali_> leavengood: yes! i noticed that while going through some of the c++ code, and that's what got me quite excited! I always had this notion that probably woking on operating system level code would be quite out of my league, but going through some of the functions, I can actually get a sense of what they seem to be doing.[21:48:45] <pranali_> :)[21:49:25] <PulkoMandy> yes, there is not this much magic involved in an operating system[21:49:45] <PulkoMandy> there are a few tricks (I'd say especially in the bootloader and maybe in system calls) but the rest is just plain and boring code[21:50:24] <waddlesplash> Linux makes it look like magic because they have no comments and don't document anything[21:50:35] <leavengood> Haiku always brings me back because I really think it is one of the few operating systems where I can work on almost all levels, and get a pretty good understanding of everything.[21:51:08] <leavengood> Plus BeOS was just cool, and Haiku continues that.[21:52:27] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: actually I recently worked on Bootloaders and writing asm code for Bootloaders as part of my university coursework, which was quite fun. That's what kind of gave me the confidence to look into contributing to Haiku for my outreachy project.[21:54:37] <pranali_> waddlesplash: yes. I tried to look into the linux kernel codebase once, but was kind of overwhelmed by it. So I waited quite a while to sharpen my skills a bit more before attempting to contribute to any major project.[21:55:02] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[21:55:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[21:55:33] * CompanionCube is mostly an observer but for me most of the osdev 'magic' is in the boot process and low-level hardware stuffs[21:56:36] <pranali_> leavengood: I think I am starting to understand why that's the case. It's the first time I am feeling confident that I might be able to do some meaningful contributions.[21:57:24] <PulkoMandy> boot process is just having to be careful about what you are allowed to do at each step, and what you aren't[21:57:38] <PulkoMandy> low level hardware is different than regular application coding, but not more complicated[21:58:07] <PulkoMandy> anyway, time to sleep here, good night :)[21:58:44] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: yes that it is![21:58:46] <Androo> That's a lot of software engineering: Getting over your fear that something is complex, or needs to be complex. The complex stuff is mathematics behind like AI or video codecs -- and even then once you dig it's simpler than it initially looks.[21:59:05] <pranali_> PulkoMandy: ok. Good night! Sweet dreams! :)[22:01:02] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~MrHuggy@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has joined #haiku[22:01:03] <pranali_> Androo: Yes! I am starting to realize that a bit now! I always used to be a bit scared because I felt that things might be a bit too complex, and I might break things if I mess around with them in the wrong way![22:02:20] <PulkoMandy> breaking software is ok. Git revert and it's fixed[22:02:32] <PulkoMandy> it took some time for me to adjust when I started doing electronics however...[22:03:55] <leavengood> no doubt[22:05:58] <pranali_> PulkoMandy, leavengood ok. Still I'll try my best to not break things! :)[22:18:01] * Androo wishes there was a public API for tab fusing.[22:18:15] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-106-028.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[22:21:40] <waddlesplash> Androo: huh? there is[22:21:43] <waddlesplash> BWindowStack[22:22:14] <Androo> hmm ... <googles>[22:27:03] *** lilnick <lilnick!~quassel@78.52.214.193.static.cust.telenor.com> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[22:28:21] <KapiX> That one is undocumented so ... ;)[22:32:41] * pranali_ immediately jumps into WindowStack.h[22:33:18] *** Glider_IRC <Glider_IRC!~Glider_IR@37.170.163.56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:33:37] *** HAIKU-irker663 <HAIKU-irker663!~irker@walter.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (Quit: transmission timeout)[22:34:36] *** Glider_IRC <Glider_IRC!~Glider_IR@37.170.163.56> has joined #haiku[22:42:03] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p200300DF7F4A7C0000DF61EB5657027A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[22:44:15] *** KapiX <KapiX!~Thunderbi@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has quit IRC (Quit: KapiX)[22:49:02] <mmu_man> speaking about this, if anyone wants to implement the Dano0 API for watching window activation… this would make AutoRaise work much better[22:49:38] <mmu_man> currently it checks the window frame, meaning an unselected window might get raised because the mouse is on the decor of another one[22:50:09] *** rgb <rgb!8166fef9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.102.254.249> has joined #haiku[22:50:14] <mmu_man> I could add the decor width but it wouldn't be correct either[23:03:51] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[23:04:46] <Vidrep_64> PulkoMandy[23:05:32] <Vidrep_64> Nice to see a response to my forum post about SCSI....after 10 years lol[23:07:53] <mmu_man> lol[23:11:26] <Vidrep_64> Back then, I did try using the BeOS SCSI driver on Haiku. It didn't work. However, I may try with a current hrev, since I still have my Adaptec card, cables and drives[23:15:46] *** Psud0nym <Psud0nym!~Thunderbi@c-73-207-186-168.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[23:19:39] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[23:21:39] <Vidrep_64> Hi mmu_man[23:23:51] *** bbjimmy1 <bbjimmy1!~vision@66-189-149-55.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com> has joined #haiku[23:30:40] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving http://bbsweb.mozysswamp.org or telnet bbs.mozysswamp.org need app goto http://syncterm.net/)[23:30:57] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[23:31:28] *** Androo <Androo!~andy-gild@174-086-073-152.dhcp.chtrptr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[23:38:20] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:40:46] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p200300DF7F4A7C0000DF61EB5657027A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[23:43:44] *** Androo <Androo!~andy-gild@174-086-073-152.dhcp.chtrptr.net> has joined #haiku[23:48:36] *** bbjimmy1 <bbjimmy1!~vision@66-189-149-55.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[23:59:32] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving http://bbsweb.mozysswamp.org or telnet bbs.mozysswamp.org need app goto http://syncterm.net/)[23:59:51] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku