March 17, 2019 
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March 17, 2019 [00:00:32] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[00:02:15] <marxo> Hey everyone! Is there any practice of application development with a programming language aside from C++ for Haiku? Can anyone share some resources on that?[00:09:40] <extrowerk> If you want GUI: C++ and yab[00:10:03] <extrowerk> for cli many other programming language available[00:11:53] <marxo> @extrowerk: Thanks. GUI is my primary target. Are there any official plans to provide SDKs/API bridges for different runtimes/languages?[00:13:34] <extrowerk> afaik so far no official work was done[00:14:42] <extrowerk> there is some 3rdparty bridges for python/bethon and for other languages[00:15:22] <extrowerk> i fear they are incomplete, unfinished, differently broken.[00:16:25] <marxo> Yes, an official SDK would make more sense in a long run[00:29:35] <extrowerk> if you are interested, feel free to update/fix them.[00:30:26] <extrowerk> maybe a gsoc task or a contract would be also possible. ask waddlesplash or PulkoMandy about that, or use the mailing list.[00:39:32] <marxo> @extrowerk: I'll reach out, thanks for the info.[00:46:09] <jjpx> getting plain C bindings it would be a lot easier to bing extra languages via libffi[01:01:25] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] KapiX pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-2/±0] https://git.io/fjvGz[01:01:27] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] KapiX 2984761 - scintilla: bump version[01:03:07] *** KapiX <KapiX!~vision@89-64-45-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[01:05:00] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[01:09:36] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.77.63> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:11:19] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.105.122> has joined #haiku[01:12:06] *** chad7 <chad7!a4a47a62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.164.122.98> has joined #haiku[01:12:30] <chad7> https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/1195/1 can anyone give a look here[01:13:12] <chad7> @pulkomandy I want to start working on documenting The Haiku book[01:13:20] <chad7> Can anyone give me leads[01:13:27] <hbelusca> documenting the documentation? o_O[01:13:56] <chad7> For now I am looking into the docs and trying to make a .dox file for the classes not present[01:16:50] <chad7> @hbelusca it is a task for Outreachy[01:17:40] <GregCrain> waddlesplash: Hey![01:26:39] <LadySerena> documenting the documentation is okay, you don't start getting into meta-space until you start documenting the documentation that documents the documentation[01:27:34] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~MrHuggy@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:28:52] <hbelusca> lmao[01:32:13] <LadySerena> hbelusca, what's so funny?[01:32:31] <hbelusca> that you invoke the meta-space[01:35:00] <LadySerena> but you know what I say is true[01:36:11] <hbelusca> yes[01:37:14] <jjpx> recursive documentation[01:39:32] <jjpx> chad7, there are some extra spaces on your lines, marked in gerrit[01:47:22] *** tidux <tidux!~tidux@2607:f128:40:2300::1199> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.2+deb1~bpo9+1 - 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QtStylePlugins: add new recipe[04:17:58] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.77.12> has joined #haiku[04:18:41] <Rajagopalan> hey guys[04:19:06] <Rajagopalan> can i use rsync to sync files between windows and haiku?[04:22:44] <jjpx> Rajagopalan, yes, I don't know if rsync package comes preinstalled, but that is all you need[04:23:14] <Rajagopalan> yeah found there is rsync in pkgman ;) thank you[04:24:22] <jjpx> I personally use git over ssh, git can execute things on update via hooks[04:25:47] <jjpx> but sometimes env vars are not set up properly =/[04:27:48] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[04:35:16] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@183.83.48.246> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[04:39:48] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.29> has joined #haiku[04:47:10] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.29> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[04:49:27] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~matt@pool-108-52-159-210.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:03:39] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@ec2-13-210-84-112.ap-southeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[05:08:41] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has quit IRC ()[05:32:18] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.29> has joined #haiku[05:35:39] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.29> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:10:58] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~AlienSold@modemcable087.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[06:12:18] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.29> has joined #haiku[06:15:52] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@183.83.48.246> has joined #haiku[06:20:45] *** jjpx <jjpx!~jjpx@gateway/tor-sasl/jjpx> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:55:57] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:00:19] *** [Beta] <[Beta]!~beta@steamdb/johndrinkwater.name> has joined #haiku[07:00:52] *** johndrinkwater <johndrinkwater!~beta@steamdb/johndrinkwater.name> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[07:11:20] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4qba4eb00mzffd72ez6.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[07:11:30] <Begasus> g'morning peeps[07:14:12] *** nighty- <nighty-!~nighty@b157153.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[07:16:18] *** cull <cull!~yaaic@172.58.40.15> has joined #haiku[07:18:04] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54c05bea.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[07:22:19] <Rajagopalan> hey begasus[07:22:34] <Rajagopalan> how do i get installoptionalpackage?[07:22:42] <Rajagopalan> i need to install paladin[07:23:49] <Rajagopalan> oh it is available through pkgman itself[07:23:55] <Begasus> pkgman yes[07:24:41] <Begasus> that or HaikuDepot (but I mostly use pkgman)[07:26:31] <Rajagopalan> i want little help in creating apps for haiku can i ping u privately begasus?[07:28:10] <Begasus> sure no problem, heading out after a bit though :) (Sunday = Dogschool)[07:32:02] *** S1mpleBrain <S1mpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[07:34:13] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[07:47:56] *** S1mpleBrain <S1mpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:48:23] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[07:56:15] *** cull <cull!~yaaic@172.58.40.15> has quit IRC (Quit: Peace bitches)[07:57:21] *** embden <embden!~embden@185.202.212.202> has joined #haiku[07:57:37] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/fjvcv[07:57:39] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes ef2a6dc - weechat: bump version[08:01:36] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjvcf[08:01:38] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 4090ae5 - QtStylePlugins: fix checksum[08:04:28] *** dewf <dewf!~dewf@cpe-68-206-152-179.elp.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[08:09:50] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@n106-71-211-213.rdl2.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[08:13:12] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.29> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[08:14:01] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@183.83.48.246> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[08:18:06] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@49.206.113.44> has joined #haiku[08:26:53] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.29> has joined #haiku[08:31:42] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.29> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[08:33:46] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[08:39:48] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[08:39:53] *** Rajagopalan-Gang <Rajagopalan-Gang!~Rajagopal@2409:4072:115:34b:adf9:bda8:8b96:4c32> has joined #haiku[08:42:08] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@49.206.113.44> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[08:42:21] <Begas_VBox> extrowerk "-DCMAKE_ROOT=$libDir/cmake" doesn't work for quazip(_x86), it's also not consistant with $prefix/lib which is used by cmake (need to move the libs here from $prefix/lib to $libDir)[08:42:52] *** Glider_IRC__ <Glider_IRC__!~Glider_IR@37.173.229.179> has joined #haiku[08:43:38] <Begas_VBox> building without -DCMAKE_ROOT works, but fails to not finding $libDir/cmake/Modules..., adding it back on the second run works[08:45:07] <Begas_VBox> last thing :) quazip doesn't seem to use cmakedirargs :)[08:45:14] <Begas_VBox> heading out now, cu later[08:46:40] *** Glider_IRC_ <Glider_IRC_!~Glider_IR@37.171.173.55> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[08:47:27] *** Rajagopalan-Gang is now known as Rajagopalan[08:47:51] *** nepugia_ <nepugia_!~nepugia@200116b8640b6b00d25099fffe4e8f9a.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[08:56:33] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has joined #haiku[08:58:56] <Rajagopalan> when i edit my files with paladin it says the document is marked read only[08:59:00] <Rajagopalan> why is it so?[09:00:40] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@n106-71-211-213.rdl2.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #haiku[09:00:52] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:02:49] *** Rajagopalan-Gang <Rajagopalan-Gang!~Rajagopal@49.204.218.1> has joined #haiku[09:07:06] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@2409:4072:115:34b:adf9:bda8:8b96:4c32> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:12:39] <extrowerk> Begas_VBox, i know.[09:12:44] <extrowerk> i just had no time to fix it[09:13:22] *** Rajagopalan-Gang <Rajagopalan-Gang!~Rajagopal@49.204.218.1> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:13:32] <extrowerk> https://0x0.st/z8He.png[09:17:54] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-188-110-167-186.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[09:17:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[09:29:08] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[09:29:12] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±1] https://git.io/fjvc9[09:29:13] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] humdingerb ac39f04 - Fix download of "Programming_with_Haiku_QuickEdit22.zip"[09:37:07] *** Rajagopalan-Gang <Rajagopalan-Gang!~Rajagopal@49.204.218.1> has joined #haiku[09:37:08] *** Rajagopalan-Gang is now known as Rajagopalan[09:52:58] *** elkalamar <elkalamar!elkalamar@unaffiliated/elkalamar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:54:52] *** elkalamar <elkalamar!elkalamar@unaffiliated/elkalamar> has joined #haiku[10:00:17] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~MrHuggy@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has joined #haiku[10:12:46] <extrowerk> Begas_VBox: plop[10:19:14] <dewf> how might I figure out when a DnD drag was silently accepted? the OS sends me messages when it *wasn't* accepted, but for apps that don't adhere to the fancier "negotiated" protocol ... it seems like there's no clear way of knowing that it was accepted[10:20:42] <dewf> hmm I wonder if I could grab the mouse and then just detect if it was released over another window ...[10:23:17] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/fjvCm[10:23:19] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] humdingerb 024b26e - News: GCI2018 wrap up report[10:23:52] <extrowerk> umm.. Blender needs Python 3.7 from now on.[10:23:54] <extrowerk> bleh[10:30:15] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[10:38:52] <mounty> Trying to build Haiku from source on Gentoo Linux, branch master hrev52996, fails at:[10:38:55] <mounty> AddExtractFileToContainerExtractFilesScript <HaikuImage>haiku.image-extract-files-dummy-home/config/settings/WebPositive-../../../../home/mounty/haiku/source/src/apps/webpositive/bookmarks/WebPositiveBookmarks.zip[10:39:03] <mounty> BUILD FAILURE:[10:39:26] <mounty> Any ideas? Is that argument to AddExtractFileToContainerExtractFilesScript supposed to be a filename?[10:42:10] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjvCP[10:42:12] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] humdingerb 7beab6d - GCI2018 report: fix formatting[10:42:50] * humdinger is off cooking[10:42:51] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-188-110-167-186.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[10:45:28] <mounty> Maybe my slightly non-standard configure-and-build:[10:45:35] <mounty> $ /home/mounty/haiku/source/configure --build-cross-tools x86 /home/mounty/haiku/buildtools[10:45:48] <mounty> $ /home/mounty/haiku/buildtools/jam/bin.linuxx86/jam @nightly-disk[10:51:09] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~Bruno@ipservice-092-211-214-241.092.211.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[10:51:24] <BrunoSpr> good morning all[10:55:55] <dewf> morning[10:58:05] *** Amigori 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temperatures and fan speed?[14:32:47] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@219.137.62.65> has quit IRC (Quit: andyhuzhill)[14:41:35] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:58:55] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has joined #haiku[15:02:40] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has joined #haiku[15:03:23] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[15:16:40] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:19:38] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:19:56] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[15:20:05] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@072-186-037-252.res.spectrum.com> has joined #haiku[15:20:29] <Begasus> extrowerk, plop[15:21:23] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@072-186-037-252.res.spectrum.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:25:21] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~matt@pool-108-52-159-210.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[15:29:04] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@14.231.193.223> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)[15:29:06] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[15:29:37] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@2001:ee0:4101:88c9::5f9b> has joined #haiku[15:29:38] <Begas_VBox> extrowerk, Manually-specified variables were not used by the project: so using cmakeDirArgs doesn't work but seems to pickup cmake_install_dir[15:29:43] <Begas_VBox> hi leorize! :)[15:29:46] *** elkalamar <elkalamar!elkalamar@unaffiliated/elkalamar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[15:30:32] *** nepugia <nepugia!~nepugia@200116b8640b6b00d25099fffe4e8f9a.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[15:30:42] <leorize> hi Begas_VBox :)[15:32:17] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] leavengood pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjv81[15:32:19] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] leavengood ccccba4 - Fix some typos in the GCI 2018 news[15:34:20] <Begas_VBox> extrowerk, I think you should use -DINSTALL_PATH=$prefix/lib/cmake instead of -DINSTALL_PATH=$libDir/cmake and then move $prefix/lib to $libDir in the recipe[15:35:11] <Begas_VBox> prepareInstalledDevelLibs .. minus "s" (it's only 1 lib)[15:38:42] <Begas_VBox> https://pastebin.com/hJMqUVve (with -DINSTALL_PATH=$prefix/lib/cmake) so that's working ok (the patch is ok)[15:43:35] <Begas_VBox> this needs to be added to put the lib in the correct place https://pastebin.com/3xz9duvL[15:48:05] <Begas_VBox> ps not checked on x86_64[15:49:43] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54c05bea.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[15:49:52] <tqh> marxo, you can read most sensors through ACPI nowadays.[15:50:37] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:51:27] *** Begasus_ <Begasus_!~Begasus@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[15:54:41] *** S1mpleBrain <S1mpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:54:59] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[15:57:00] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[15:58:07] <Begasus_> quazip build and installed ok also on x86_64 with the local changes :)[16:02:31] <marxo> @tqh Thanks! Is there any documentation on this? Or should I go read through "Devices" code or something?[16:08:39] *** Vrondir <Vrondir!~Vrondir@85.187.40.190> has joined #haiku[16:08:51] *** Vrondir <Vrondir!~Vrondir@85.187.40.190> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:09:39] <tqh> marxo, You should read the ACPI spec 6.2 and ACPICA programming interface: https://acpica.org/documentation[16:10:07] <tqh> We have an ACPICA like API for calling ACPI.[16:10:24] <tqh> The specs are quite wellwritten.[16:10:56] *** Begasus_ <Begasus_!~Begasus@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[16:14:22] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[16:15:06] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:18:25] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.29> has joined #haiku[16:21:04] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:21:43] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[16:27:34] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has joined #haiku[16:28:56] *** B2IT <B2IT!B2IT@www.agmsmith.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[16:29:47] *** B2IT <B2IT!B2IT@www.agmsmith.ca> has joined #haiku[16:29:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v B2IT[16:36:22] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.29> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:37:18] *** KapiX <KapiX!~vision@89-64-45-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #haiku[16:37:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KapiX[16:44:41] *** The_Nozy <The_Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[16:45:48] <marxo> @tqh Thanks, I'll look there[16:46:20] *** KapiX <KapiX!~vision@89-64-45-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[16:49:02] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:51:17] *** GregCrain <GregCrain!~Manboy@c-68-34-68-27.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:52:47] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-188-110-167-186.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[16:52:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:09:27] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:11:49] *** matthewstar <matthewstar!6d7346bd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.115.70.189> has joined #haiku[17:12:00] <matthewstar> hello ...[17:12:20] <matthewstar> problems with virtualbox?[17:12:27] <matthewstar> is ok ?[17:18:48] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@49.204.217.61> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:19:18] <jjpx> matthewstar, network problems?[17:19:39] <jjpx> default network adapter has issues, change it[17:19:58] <matthewstar> jjpx: with haiku in virtualbox?[17:20:12] <matthewstar> ah, ok[17:21:13] <matthewstar> pc net fast III is ok?[17:23:21] <matthewstar> once upon a time : virtualbox has had intel i 100 ...[17:23:30] <matthewstar> and all was ok[17:23:51] <matthewstar> now i 1000 : too much ...[17:24:56] <matthewstar> i 100 is retro compatible ...[17:25:11] <matthewstar> also with beos max[17:27:08] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:27:25] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[17:28:49] <matthewstar> another usefull options is : virtuallize cpu with intel one ...[17:30:44] <matthewstar> but is not here ...[17:30:52] <matthewstar> boh[17:31:06] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:31:20] <matthewstar> so amd user can load all[17:31:45] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[17:38:53] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@49.204.217.61> has joined #haiku[17:39:11] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:39:29] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[17:39:35] *** TWPhoenix1982 <TWPhoenix1982!~TWPhoenix@p200300C5074B7700A9E90CFDBB9868B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[17:40:53] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjvBr[17:40:54] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] hyche 79ba0dc - GSoC19: Add myself as a possible mentor for filesystem projects[17:41:17] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.29> has joined #haiku[17:42:48] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/fjvB6[17:42:49] <Not-5be1> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys 388e472 - LibreOffice: bump version[17:43:56] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-213-52-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has joined #haiku[17:51:42] *** TWPhoenix1982 <TWPhoenix1982!~TWPhoenix@p200300C5074B7700A9E90CFDBB9868B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[17:54:23] <extrowerk> Why does the "Move To" menu in the Traacker gight click menu contains different elements, than the "Copy to" and "Symlink to" menu?[17:55:47] <humdinger> not a feature, I'd say[17:56:39] <matthewstar> boh[17:57:49] <extrowerk> I mean this: http://0x0.st/z8bl.png[17:58:45] <humdinger> extrowerk: ack. I see it too. it's a bug.[18:06:48] <matthewstar> is there AtomoZero?[18:08:54] *** fmccann_ <fmccann_!~fmccann@www.sharpnoodles.com> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in)[18:09:09] *** fmccann <fmccann!~fmccann@www.sharpnoodles.com> has joined #haiku[18:14:50] <extrowerk> i like the command compilation from history in the shells. If i have a new idea to port something, and i start to type "git checkout -b scipy_$currentversion" and it completes it with $currentversion-1[18:14:57] *** Prognoz <Prognoz!~Prognoz@181.231.204.129> has joined #haiku[18:15:02] <extrowerk> So that's about my "new ideas"[18:15:55] *** elkalamar <elkalamar!elkalamar@unaffiliated/elkalamar> has joined #haiku[18:16:04] <matthewstar> extrowerk: a button in shell to make apps?[18:19:15] <matthewstar> also : to port apps is ./configure make ?[18:20:21] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@ec2-13-211-26-103.ap-southeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)[18:21:46] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@111.193.29.163> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:24:02] <jjpx> depends on app, some use configure + make, cmake + make, make, follow compile instructions in respective readme[18:24:18] <matthewstar> ah, ok ...[18:24:37] <matthewstar> and ./configure checks libs?[18:24:58] <jjpx> yes, and it creates a MakeFile[18:25:17] <matthewstar> fine ...[18:25:58] <matthewstar> well ...[18:25:59] *** maetopid <maetopid!~maetopid@2600:1003:b104:52bc:1d38:9a02:3d8f:83a6> has joined #haiku[18:26:36] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:26:59] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[18:27:05] <matthewstar> another issue : if a libs is not there it needs to build from src also the libs ?[18:27:43] <jjpx> if they are not in HaikuDepot yes[18:28:16] <matthewstar> jjpx: thank you very much !!![18:29:10] <jjpx> you are welcome[18:29:38] <matthewstar> ah ...[18:30:04] <matthewstar> we could bring all linux libs ...[18:30:24] <matthewstar> ... and build libs in haiku[18:30:31] <matthewstar> from src[18:32:54] *** maetopid <maetopid!~maetopid@2600:1003:b104:52bc:1d38:9a02:3d8f:83a6> has quit IRC (Quit: quit)[18:33:38] <matthewstar> src is source code ...[18:34:40] *** maetopid 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<marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[21:37:15] *** stas-t <stas-t!~stas-t@2001:985:d7f:1:410b:5a94:50a2:22e> has joined #haiku[21:37:22] *** leemon <leemon!c610422d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.16.66.45> has joined #haiku[21:37:46] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:37:51] *** stas-t <stas-t!~stas-t@2001:985:d7f:1:410b:5a94:50a2:22e> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:38:10] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[21:41:01] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4d03956a.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[21:41:13] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:41:39] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[21:43:25] <leemon> hi, I can see a test in src/tests/kits/midi but how can I run it?[21:44:40] *** 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Wanted to pop on and say hi and let you know I've not in fact died. Will be working on Paladin again soon. First the annoying translation bug, then other open tasks.[21:55:01] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:55:25] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[21:57:16] *** Prognoz <Prognoz!~Prognoz@181.231.204.129> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:58:29] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:58:54] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[22:01:55] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:02:17] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[22:05:22] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:05:47] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[22:06:46] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-166-222.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[22:08:49] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:09:10] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[22:12:16] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:12:40] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[22:13:39] *** disks86 <disks86!sid198788@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zwelnkvbofiggbof> has joined #haiku[22:15:43] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:16:03] <disks86> I have a question has anyone looked at the official AMD open source Vulkan driver? The reason I ask is it has a platform abstraction layer. It seems like it would be more straightforward compared to trying to make or port a Linux driver compatibility layer.[22:16:07] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[22:19:10] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:19:37] *** marxo <marxo!~marxo@cable-188-2-177-241.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[22:26:49] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[22:30:46] -HAIKU-Buildbot- Build haiku-x86_64 #301 is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw (failure)] - https://build.haiku-os.org/buildbot/#builders/50/builds/301[22:39:43] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p200300E90F18EF0021D8BF89646265A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[22:40:22] <leemon> or how can I redirect jam's output to file?[22:41:27] *** elkalamar <elkalamar!elkalamar@unaffiliated/elkalamar> has joined #haiku[22:44:13] *** jwgarber <jwgarber!~jwgarber@70.40.141.177> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:49:02] *** jwgarber <jwgarber!~jwgarber@70.40.141.177> has joined #haiku[22:56:42] <waddlesplash> disks86: it does? where?[22:57:04] <disks86> https://github.com/GPUOpen-Drivers/pal[22:57:45] <disks86> it looks like the PAL sits between the DRM driver and the rest of the driver on linux.[22:58:11] <disks86> my thought was the PAL could talk to the mode setting driver on Haiku but it's possible I'm misunderstanding how this all works.[22:58:31] <disks86> I have vulkan experience but I'm not really a driver developer.[22:59:05] <disks86> It's all MIT also so it's license compatible with Haiku[23:01:54] * LadySerena sheds profusely[23:02:12] <krbtgt> i'm wearing a black shirt, so not good[23:08:53] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@brs60-1-88-125-140-2.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[23:10:53] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@brs60-1-88-125-140-2.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:11:56] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:13:26] <waddlesplash> disks86: that's the userspace component of their Vulkan driver, yes[23:13:37] *** dewf <dewf!~dewf@cpe-68-206-152-179.elp.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[23:13:54] <waddlesplash> disks86: it still needs a substantial kernel component to do memory management and other such operations[23:15:06] <disks86> ah, ok the way I read it the PAL was the thick part of the abstraction. So do you think that is more or less work than the linux driver compatibility layer?[23:16:40] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[23:16:53] <brj> leemon: use `[command] > [fileName]`[23:18:24] <leemon> brj: that doesn't work good, it is better to use command > filename 2>&1. But I was asking about some jam option lie --output-to[23:18:59] <leemon> like*[23:20:41] *** leemon_ <leemon_!c610422d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.16.66.45> has joined #haiku[23:21:54] <leemon_> I more interested in : "I can see a test in src/tests/kits/midi but how can I run it?" Right now, I can't understand where to look for SimpleTests[23:22:32] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@2a02:2168:86c4:e400:6009:b1cc:2d49:c985> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:23:47] *** leemon <leemon!c610422d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.16.66.45> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:26:06] *** The_Nozy <The_Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving http://bbsweb.mozysswamp.org or telnet bbs.mozysswamp.org need app goto http://syncterm.net/)[23:26:23] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[23:30:10] <leemon_> Should I reconfigure haiku if I add a new Jamfile and include it in higher-standing jamfiles?[23:32:36] *** leemon <leemon!c610422d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.16.66.45> has joined #haiku[23:34:30] <waddlesplash> disks86: uh ... I don't know what you mean? the kernel component is necessary either way[23:34:33] *** leemon_ <leemon_!c610422d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.16.66.45> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:34:39] <waddlesplash> specifically "amdgpu" probably[23:38:14] <disks86> Sounds like I misunderstood how this works. I thought that part was thin and the work was pushed up to the PAL.[23:39:12] *** HAIKU-irker396 <HAIKU-irker396!~irker@walter.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (Quit: transmission timeout)[23:43:34] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~MrHuggy@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:46:46] *** leemon <leemon!c610422d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.16.66.45> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[23:51:11] *** jwgarber <jwgarber!~jwgarber@70.40.141.177> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:55:08] *** illwieckz_ <illwieckz_!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[23:58:33] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)