March 16, 2019 
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etc...[04:11:23] <mmu_man> that's quite solid, probably more like caps[04:11:26] <mmu_man> anyway,zz[04:11:36] <cb88> k ttyl man[04:12:07] <mmu_man> btw, you may want to install on a compact flash, it's way less noisy than the SCSI hdd :)[04:12:33] <cb88> indeed... SCSI 2 SD might be an option also... CF is probably way cheaper though[04:12:43] <mmu_man> although the IDE adapters I have around either don't fit in the connector (the PSU cables are in the way), or are hard to fix somewhere[04:12:47] <mmu_man> but it works fine[04:12:48] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@176.255.158.95> has joined #haiku[04:13:30] <cb88> yeah I'm trying to shoehorn a CF adapter into my HP T7510.... its a tiny case and had an IDE disk module in it[04:13:37] <mmu_man> CF-IDE ones are much cheaper, just wiring[04:13:47] <cb88> like a small 512MB IDE ssd... with XP compact on it[04:14:07] <cb88> That uses a laptop IDE connector though...[04:14:37] <cb88> plan is to use a short 3in IDE cable to connect the CF card to the board and close it up .... quite tight though.[04:14:52] <mmu_man> well you can find adaptors or cables with both connectors[04:14:59] <mmu_man> anyway[04:15:00] <mmu_man> n8[04:15:05] <cb88> Oh yes I know dime a dozen[04:15:12] <cb88> cya[04:16:09] *** AD_MOS 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#haiku[08:01:31] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.197> has joined #haiku[08:04:24] *** thang <thang!~thang@118.71.192.193> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)[08:06:26] *** thang <thang!~thang@118.71.192.193> has joined #haiku[08:06:36] *** thang <thang!~thang@118.71.192.193> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:27:20] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@49.207.185.96> has joined #haiku[08:37:28] *** Begas_BM <Begas_BM!~vision@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[08:42:57] *** Glider_IRC__ <Glider_IRC__!~Glider_IR@37.168.157.180> has joined #haiku[08:45:53] <Rajagopalan> hey begasus[08:45:58] <Rajagopalan> hello guys![08:46:33] *** Glider_IRC_ <Glider_IRC_!~Glider_IR@37.168.117.23> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[08:48:05] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-094-216-062-118.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[08:48:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:48:38] *** brj <brj!~brj@27.59.224.101> has joined #haiku[08:51:05] <Begas_VBox> hi Rajagopalan humdinger brj[08:51:19] <humdinger> hullo everyone![08:53:25] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@111.193.29.163> has joined #haiku[08:55:49] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/fjvTG[08:55:51] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] humdingerb da9e7f7 - Build-on-Ubuntu guide is markdown formatted[09:00:10] *** Begas_BM <Begas_BM!~vision@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:06:50] <brj> hello Begas_VBox![09:10:30] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[09:13:09] <Begas_VBox> hi :)[09:17:32] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-094-216-062-118.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[09:18:10] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-094-216-062-118.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[09:18:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[09:18:44] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjvT4[09:18:46] <Not-5be1> [haiku/website] hyche 7f5d1a3 - GSoC 19: Fix wrong year of GSoC for Btrfs[09:30:11] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p200300E90F1F55004C2FABFBF9BBA500.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:30:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:38:34] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~Bruno@ipservice-092-211-214-241.092.211.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[09:38:56] <BrunoSpr> ouch... StreamRadio is still not working...[09:45:51] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~Bruno@ipservice-092-211-214-241.092.211.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[09:48:51] *** brj <brj!~brj@27.59.224.101> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[09:49:05] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:49:29] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[09:51:58] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p200300E90F1F55004C2FABFBF9BBA500.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[10:00:48] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-094-216-062-118.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[10:08:01] *** brj <brj!~brj@27.59.224.101> has joined #haiku[10:09:20] *** Vrondir <Vrondir!~Vrondir@85.187.40.190> has joined #haiku[10:09:55] *** Vrondir <Vrondir!~Vrondir@85.187.40.190> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:14:05] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~MrHuggy@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has joined #haiku[10:14:20] <Begas_VBox> looks like our wxqt is a development release, not supported by filezilla[10:17:19] *** brj <brj!~brj@27.59.224.101> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[10:21:25] *** dewf <dewf!~dewf@cpe-68-206-152-179.elp.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[10:27:32] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has joined #haiku[10:30:07] *** Megaf <Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf> has joined #haiku[10:33:25] <extrowerk> yep[10:36:49] <Begas_VBox> hi extrowerk[10:37:09] <Begas_VBox> was trying to checkout 3.0.4, but getting errors on configure :([10:37:34] <Begas_VBox> needs x11 for instance (that is around) but also pangoxft?[10:52:24] *** thang <thang!~thang@118.71.192.193> has joined #haiku[10:57:22] *** thang <thang!~thang@118.71.192.193> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)[10:59:09] *** thang <thang!~thang@118.71.192.193> has joined #haiku[11:01:58] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!Vision@66-189-149-55.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com> has joined #haiku[11:10:01] *** Megaf_ <Megaf_!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf> has joined #haiku[11:10:18] *** Megaf <Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[11:10:26] *** Megaf_ is now known as Megaf[11:18:22] <Begas_VBox> new libfilezilla crashes on test (previous fails but doesn't crash the test)[11:21:49] <Begas_VBox> only difference in the test-suite.log is this file for the new version: test: ../../haiku/src/system/libroot/posix/malloc/superblock.h:194:void BPrivate::superblock::putBlock(BPrivate::block*): getNumAvailable() < getNumBlocks()[11:24:06] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:24:10] <Diver> Begas_VBox: generally, whenever you see crashes in superblock.h/getNumAvailable you should try running with LD_PRELOAD=/system/lib/libroot_debug.so to get more meaningful stack trace[11:24:51] *** thang <thang!~thang@118.71.192.193> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)[11:25:01] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[11:25:05] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@49.207.185.96> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:28:10] <Begas_VBox> Diver ... https://pastebin.com/AxiAgYWA :)[11:28:36] <Begas_VBox> not sure it's anything usefull though (saved the report on the crash)[11:29:42] <Diver> Begas_VBox: yes, but you didn't use LD_PRELOAD, right?[11:30:13] <Begas_VBox> no, just ran haikuporter --test[11:30:47] <Diver> yep, the report is useless without it[11:30:50] <Begas_VBox> I could use that in Terminal prior to hp?[11:32:28] <Begas_VBox> checking, never used it so far[11:33:08] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[11:33:53] *** Megaf <Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:34:01] *** thang <thang!~thang@118.71.192.193> has joined #haiku[11:34:19] <Begas_VBox> https://pastebin.com/9Q3JjBtV (new paste from the crash) with LD_PRELOAD* used[11:35:42] <Diver> Begas_VBox: it is the same one[11:36:14] <Begas_VBox> just wanted to say that :)[11:36:22] <Diver> "LD_PRELOAD=/system/lib/libroot_debug.so libfilezilla-0.15.1/tests/test"[11:36:46] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.197> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[11:37:18] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@host31-54-226-108.range31-54.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:37:43] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@host31-54-226-108.range31-54.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[11:37:58] *** thang <thang!~thang@118.71.192.193> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:38:56] <Begas_VBox> runtime_loader: /boot/system/develop/tools/x86/lib/gcc/i586-pc-haiku/7.3.0/libstdc++.so.6.0.24: Could not resolve symbol '___tls_get_addr'[11:39:48] <Diver> yeah, i guess you probably need to add a few more libs, or use x86_64 haiku[11:40:58] <Begas_VBox> same thing for the previous version, although it doesn't crash there[11:41:26] *** stas-t <stas-t!~stas-t@2001:985:d7f:1:410b:5a94:50a2:22e> has joined #haiku[11:45:37] <Begasus> looks like there is already a ticket for it :) https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/14641[11:48:21] *** stas-t <stas-t!~stas-t@2001:985:d7f:1:410b:5a94:50a2:22e> has quit IRC (Quit: stas-t)[11:48:50] *** stas-t <stas-t!~stas-t@2001:985:d7f:1:410b:5a94:50a2:22e> has joined #haiku[11:48:52] *** stas-t <stas-t!~stas-t@2001:985:d7f:1:410b:5a94:50a2:22e> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:50:20] <Begas_VBox> switching to x86_64[11:50:24] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[11:51:48] *** Begasus_ <Begasus_!~Begasus@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[11:53:20] *** brj <brj!~brj@27.59.224.101> has joined #haiku[11:55:08] *** illwieckz_ <illwieckz_!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[11:58:08] *** 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My build just finished (my cpu has 2 cores). I ran the iso image on qemu with 2GB ram. The OS is still pretty slow. 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when Haiku latest nightly is running in a VM, other computers see rejected packets that go through too. But Haiku and BeOS don't mind.[20:11:35] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.197> has joined #haiku[20:11:43] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.199.197> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:11:52] <AGMS> ping -c 5 www.google.com[20:11:52] <AGMS> PING www.google.com (172.217.13.100) 56(84) bytes of data.[20:11:53] <AGMS> From yul02s04-in-f4.1e100.net (172.217.13.100) icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable[20:11:54] <AGMS> 64 bytes from yul02s04-in-f4.1e100.net (172.217.13.100): icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=7.61 ms[20:13:01] <AGMS> Get regular pings once the Haiku nightly VM is shut down.[20:16:26] <AGMS> But not a problem with R1B1.[20:42:53] *** Glider_IRC_ <Glider_IRC_!~Glider_IR@37.171.173.55> has joined #haiku[20:46:37] *** Glider_IRC__ <Glider_IRC__!~Glider_IR@37.168.157.180> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[20:48:13] *** B2IT <B2IT!B2IT@www.agmsmith.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[20:50:13] *** B2IT <B2IT!B2IT@www.agmsmith.ca> has joined #haiku[20:50:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v B2IT[20:56:37] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@62.122.207.85> has joined #haiku[21:01:03] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@62.122.207.85> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:03:55] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~AlienSold@modemcable087.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[21:04:58] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p200300DF7F4A7C00841D028B3B6D8F39.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[21:09:20] <Begasus> g'night peeps[21:09:22] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4qba4ebfgw0wkrx76xc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has left #haiku ("Ex-Chat")[21:09:40] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[21:29:13] *** HAIKU-irker131 <HAIKU-irker131!~irker@walter.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (Quit: transmission timeout)[21:34:27] *** jjpx <jjpx!~jjpx@gateway/tor-sasl/jjpx> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:36:15] *** jjpx <jjpx!~jjpx@gateway/tor-sasl/jjpx> has joined #haiku[22:03:20] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@c-67-183-14-247.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[22:04:41] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@c-67-183-14-247.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:13:04] *** leemon <leemon!c610461d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.16.70.29> has joined #haiku[22:23:58] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:24:03] <leemon> hi, can you advice some docs on jam build system[22:24:56] <leemon> in haiku[22:27:00] <jjpx> there is the original jam doc https://www.perforce.com/documentation/jam-documentation[22:27:21] <jjpx> but some of it may not apply as haiku uses a modified version[22:29:22] <jjpx> and Haiku's doc https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building/jam/[22:30:44] <jjpx> leemon, finally there is a nice full guide called Art of Jamming https://www.haiku-os.org/documents/dev/the_art_of_jamming_all_parts/[22:31:51] <leemon> jjpx: thanks. is Jam better than cmake? I don't know much about them to compare but jam doesn't look much better for me[22:32:55] *** AGMS <AGMS!~AGMS@www.agmsmith.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!)[22:34:37] <jjpx> leemon, can't answer that[22:44:36] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:44:54] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[22:47:10] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:54:23] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has joined #haiku[22:56:33] *** KapiX <KapiX!~vision@89-64-45-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #haiku[22:56:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KapiX[22:58:59] <waddlesplash> ...[22:59:08] <waddlesplash> so, ... XHCI is busted in VirtualBox now, apparently[22:59:11] <waddlesplash> does anyone care?[22:59:18] <waddlesplash> GregCrain: ^^[22:59:24] <waddlesplash> I literally just noticed this[23:00:36] <leemon> how can I unmount a device?[23:00:52] <leemon> something similar to umount?[23:00:58] <waddlesplash> unmount[23:01:09] <leemon> ok, thanks[23:06:14] *** leemon <leemon!c610461d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.16.70.29> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[23:08:29] <waddlesplash> well it ain't 187a2c6ce705ef333ff2831b43be5b6047d0b44f[23:08:33] <waddlesplash> I'll have to investigate this later[23:15:49] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@d72-39-126-252.home1.cgocable.net> has joined #haiku[23:15:53] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@d72-39-126-252.home1.cgocable.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:20:07] <axeld> waddlesplash: developing generic hardware drivers is rarely that satisfying :-)[23:21:29] <waddlesplash> axeld: it works on all bare metal I tested![23:21:38] <waddlesplash> and it seems to be ok in VMware too[23:21:55] <waddlesplash> and I presume on KVM, otherwise tqh would have complained very loudly[23:22:21] <waddlesplash> so ... if I can't find the cause easily, I'm willing to bet VBox just has some bug[23:22:56] <waddlesplash> axeld: fwiw transfers do work, they just take 12-15 seconds, and that's longer than our timeouts are[23:26:40] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:29:36] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:30:01] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[23:30:04] <axeld> waddlesplash: That sounds like an easy solve ;-))[23:30:34] <axeld> With drivers like USB or HDA, you really have a hard time if you want to please them all[23:31:03] <axeld> Although it's actually much worse on HDA than USB[23:31:26] <waddlesplash> axeld: HDA also has VirtualBox specific quirks[23:31:44] <waddlesplash> VBox is really nasty when you get down to it :/[23:32:11] <axeld> Not only VBox, KVM/Qemu has enough quirks, too[23:32:38] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x5f744e21.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[23:32:58] <axeld> When I launch KVM with sound support, the system only lasts a couple of days, before KVM locks up. Without sound I have Haiku running for weeks and months without any issues[23:33:04] <axeld> So that's nice[23:33:08] <axeld> Anyway, good night![23:33:08] <waddlesplash> that's a HDA bug[23:33:14] <waddlesplash> happens on bare metal[23:33:35] <axeld> It might be an HDA bug, but it shouldn't bring down the KVM[23:33:38] <axeld> Only Haiku[23:33:48] <waddlesplash> does it really lock up KVM?[23:33:58] <axeld> I cannot connect to it anymore when that happens[23:34:08] <waddlesplash> in my experience it locks up Haiku so badly that you can't even drop to KDL[23:34:10] <waddlesplash> huh ok[23:34:48] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-148-157.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[23:51:49] *** pfoetchen <pfoetchen!~pfoetchen@beiboot1.petschge.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:53:51] *** pfoetchen <pfoetchen!~pfoetchen@beiboot1.petschge.de> has joined #haiku[23:55:08] *** illwieckz_ <illwieckz_!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[23:55:13] *** embden <embden!~embden@185.202.212.202> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:58:23] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)