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[00:11:54] <ScottPuopolo> Hey all, I suspect that R1B1 is 'broken' on my install. I have not seen any updates using SoftwareUpdater in weeks. Is there a way to clear the cache to reset things. Or is there a place in Haiku Land where I can see what the current update should be?
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[00:13:18] <ScottPuopolo> Using AboutSystem, current version is hrev52295+117 on x86_gcc2
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[00:50:30] <ScottPuopolo> anyone...Bueller?
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[01:00:41] <AlienSoldier> am i the only one that can crash the tracker simply by searching for "settings"
[01:01:13] <ScottPuopolo> @AlienSoldier i'll check my setup, one sec.
[01:03:43] <AlienSoldier> it still does it after i did a checkfs
[01:03:57] <AlienSoldier> setting without a s also does it
[01:05:21] <haiku_tester1> you mean going to the tracker and doing a Find... "setting" ?
[01:05:25] <haiku_tester1> (new to haiku)
[01:05:39] <haiku_tester1> if so, that didn't crash for me. showed a little window with search results
[01:06:06] <AlienSoldier> yep
[01:06:30] <AlienSoldier> other search that i do do not cause this, weird
[01:07:07] <haiku_tester1> does the tracker auto restart if it crashes? if not, how do you restart it?
[01:07:27] <AlienSoldier> yes it restart automagically
[01:07:35] <ScottPuopolo> @AlienSoldier: just searched on r1b1 for settings in tracker, no crash
[01:07:57] <AlienSoldier> ok, i will try a reboot, perhaps something in memory got messed, brb
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[01:10:12] <ScottPuopolo> hey, while y'all are here, how can i verify what the current revision should be in r1b1?
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[01:11:10] <AlienSoldier> nope, still crash tracker, hrev52947
[01:12:02] <AlienSoldier> talk about weoird
[01:12:06] <AlienSoldier> *weird
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[01:14:35] <AlienSoldier> ho, it seem something is messed on another haiku partition, if i disable it it now work
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[01:21:21] <AlienSoldier> seem that partition was corrupted, kdl when attempting checkfs, formated it. problem solved
[01:22:32] <AlienSoldier> was thinking this could be related to my soundplay hang when eject track, but no, this problem is still there
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[04:09:34] <speewave> Anyone know anything about the OSS setup in Haiku? it sees my sound card (SB X-Fi Titanium) but shows no mixer available
[04:12:18] <speewave> alternatively, how crazy would it be to port over the linux driver for this card to Haiku? I was looking around at the linux driver code and a Haiku Sound Driver code, and it doesn't seem to terrible at first glance, but i've really never done kernel-level work so (Although my morbid curiosity really wants to give it a shot)
[04:14:38] <speewave> Normally i wouldn't care but my Front pannel connectors are wired to the soundblaster and my main speakers use the optical out (which i can't seem to get working with HDA either)
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[04:27:59] <waddlesplash> speewave: Linux driver APIs are totally different from Haiku
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[04:28:31] <waddlesplash> HDA driver in Haiku is mildly broken, and nobody has taken the time to fix it
[04:32:37] <mmu_man> speewave: does the Media prefs show the card ?
[04:32:44] <mmu_man> did you try osstest at least?
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[04:41:17] <mmu_man> anyway, zz
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[04:55:00] <speewave> osstest says no audio devices are available. ossinfo reports that i have 2 device objects (Core & sbxfi0) but no mixer or audio devices
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[04:56:13] <mmu_man> probably media_addon_server uses it
[04:56:19] <mmu_man> try stopping it
[04:56:34] <mmu_man> you need to use launchroster now
[04:56:49] <mmu_man> need to sleep
[04:56:50] <mmu_man> zz
[04:57:15] <speewave> I'll poke around with it more tomorrow, g'night
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<Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/fhxsm
[07:45:34] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] ivmai 9a11461 - boehm_gc: bump to 7.6.12 (#3669)
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[11:06:20] <superprower> Funny. Intel has a big hardware documentation for almost every graphics chipset... But doens't have for mine (GMA 900). Just one generation away.
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<Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/fhxln
[13:55:57] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys 58e8b01 - libtorrent: apply a workaround
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[17:53:30] <PulkoMandy> there is a twitter chat session at #outreachychat if any of you have questions to ask (both student, mentors, random people interested about it)
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[18:07:53] <jjkola> hi
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[18:21:55] <mmu_man> ugh, then the USB-IF will charge by itself?
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[18:33:55] <waddlesplash> oh no, are they going to deprecate XHCI and write a new controller
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<Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/fhxu6
[18:40:07] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk 5de4218 - FFMPEG: bump (#3672)
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[18:50:02] <HAIKU-irker691> bef99ce5849c: freebsd_network: Fix debug build.
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[18:59:20] <jjpx> the ugliest part is the renaming to gen 1 gen 2
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[19:59:02] <HAIKU-irker691> 251892c136a7: BuildSetup: Remove unused big-endian host detection.
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[20:02:49] <matthewstar> an haiku : 'we need friends ...' 'we are friends' 'i love my friends'
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[20:05:08] <extrowerk> why does the Deskbar gets a yellow border if it is active? Is it also a kind of window?
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[20:05:40] <matthewstar> it is an application ...
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[20:06:45] <matthewstar> an application that start stop lists other applications
[20:09:25] <matthewstar> i say better : an application that starts stops lists other applications ...
[20:10:36] <matthewstar> also : an application that is also or prints a window
[20:18:05]
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[20:19:46] <HAIKU-irker691> 3fe76c19f50d: Terminal: Enable bold text by default.
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<mmu_man> Yeah, JS slows down my CPU… let's have it slow down my GPU as well! https://gpu.rocks/
[20:24:53] <waddlesplash> ok, let's reboot and do more stuff with XHCI
[20:26:04] <matthewstar> i leave to you all : =0) i am old ... too much ... =0)
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[20:42:49] <bbjimmy> how does one build a .hpkg using x86 on a gcc2 system?
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[20:44:22] <bbjimmy> I nees to buils yab_x86 using haikuporter.
[20:44:27] <bbjimmy> *need
[20:44:30] <Pentode> good afternoon fellow Haikuites
[20:44:35] <bbjimmy> *build
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[20:45:27] <waddlesplash> bbjimmy: just build "yab_x86"
[20:45:36] <waddlesplash> HaikuPorter understands that naming
[20:46:49] <PulkoMandy> you need to enable the x86 secondary architecture in haikuports.conf first
[20:48:27] <bbjimmy> Error: yab_x86 not found in repository
[20:50:30] <bbjimmy> PulkoMandy I want to build a yab that uses x86 and runs on gcc2 haiku
[20:51:34] <bbjimmy> yab names its lib libyab_x86 if built with x86 arch
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[21:10:44] <Vidrep_64> Good afternoon
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[21:20:26] <Barrett> hi
[21:24:09] <LadySerena> p13 mew mew
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[21:42:02] <Vidrep_64> Hi Barrett_
[21:42:19] <Vidrep_64> LadySerena (Jessicah???)
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[21:42:52] <Barrett_> hey Vidrep_64
[21:42:57] <waddlesplash> Vidrep_64: nah, someone different
[21:43:09] <Vidrep_64> Same cat calls ;)
[21:43:27] <Vidrep_64> What happened to her anyway?
[21:54:43] <jjkola> night
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[21:56:36] <Begasus> g'night peeps
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[22:12:44] <HAIKU-irker691> 1533bd88b1ba: XHCI: Style cleanup and dead code removal.
[22:12:45] <HAIKU-irker691> 6b4d0adcd0b8: XHCI: Clear the device struct after tearing down its state.
[22:12:46] <HAIKU-irker691> a40a4c0d39da: XHCI: Don't try to submit transfers to non-existent endpoints.
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[22:22:58] <waddlesplash> btw, those commits fix the long standing "LinkDescriptorForPipe" KDL
[22:23:20] <waddlesplash> the underlying bug which caused it is still there, but it now just prints an error to the syslog
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[22:24:42] <waddlesplash> cc Vidrep_64 ^
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[22:30:41] <waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: ^^ you can retest your deadbeef page fault now
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[23:32:04] <Zenja> waddlesplash, a couple of days ago you asked about the XHCI performance on my box. I have a USB3 memory stick and hard disk, and performance is definately better than a couple of weeks ago (less frequent problems), however I will eventually lose USB mouse connection during file transfers on both USB3 stick and external hard disk. It's better, but still not 100%
[23:32:35] <Zenja> With USB2 sticks / hard disk, it just takes longer to reproduce the problem.
[23:33:05] <Zenja> But a very noticable improvement compared to a couple of weeks ago
[23:33:18] <waddlesplash> Zenja, yes, I can still cause stalls, it's intermittent for me
[23:33:40] <Zenja> Sorry for not responding earlier, I just wanted to test it out more.
[23:33:47] <waddlesplash> however ... I finally understand how our transfer submission code works
[23:34:06] <waddlesplash> and I intend to basically rewrite it completely because it's so unbelievably convoluted
[23:34:45] <Zenja> When I boot Haiku from the USB3 external drive, it fails to mount disks (fourth icon). Before it never got that far (failed on atom).
[23:34:54] <Zenja> On the USB2 disk, I can boot fully.
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[23:35:08] <waddlesplash> woah
[23:35:13] <waddlesplash> that is extremely helpful
[23:35:21] <Zenja> Same with flash disks. USB2 stick boots fully, USB3 fails very often.
[23:35:24] <waddlesplash> I asked kallisti5 this and he never replied
[23:35:57] <waddlesplash> and I didn't locate a known USB2 stick to attempt that
[23:36:11] <leemon> kallisti5: hi!
[23:36:17] <waddlesplash> btw, in case you didn't see, I fixed the LinkDescriptorForPipe page fault earlier today
[23:36:34] <waddlesplash> it's now an error in the syslog instead of a KDL
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[23:38:33] <Zenja> waddlesplash - regarding LinkDescriptorForPipe fault, I can try that in a couple of hours, let you know tomorrow how it behaves. I've got both USB2/USB3 flash sticks, and USB2/3 hard disks, so gives me plenty of configurations to test.
[23:40:38] <waddlesplash> oh, I know it's fixed
[23:40:49] <waddlesplash> I had a way to reproduce it 100% of the time, and now I can't
[23:42:09] <waddlesplash> i also found a spec entry about Event Data TRBs which we don't use at all and most certainly should be using
[23:42:21] <waddlesplash> which may explain the weirder stalls
[23:42:43] <waddlesplash> but first I'm going to nuke and rewrite the TD chain code
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