March 3, 2019 
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March 3, 2019 [00:10:16] *** Warg286 <Warg286!~Warg286@50.110.99.221> has joined #haiku[00:12:37] *** Warg286 <Warg286!~Warg286@50.110.99.221> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:15:04] *** Warg286 <Warg286!~Warg286@50.110.99.221> has joined #haiku[00:29:37] <Warg286> long live the 286[00:39:44] <mmu_man> Protected Mode! So nice, nobody will ever want to get out of it![00:40:02] <mmu_man> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0tp-I-iJ1k[00:44:12] *** Warg286 <Warg286!~Warg286@50.110.99.221> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:45:32] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~AlienSold@modemcable087.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[00:47:37] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~root@x4dbf22a0.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Client exiting)[01:09:02] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.95.34> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[01:10:14] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~MrHuggy@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:12:43] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.46.223.127> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[01:27:18] *** GeekShadow <GeekShadow!~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:27:43] *** GeekShadow <GeekShadow!~antoine@nzf.turmel.info> has joined #haiku[01:27:44] *** GeekShadow <GeekShadow!~antoine@nzf.turmel.info> has quit IRC (Changing host)[01:27:44] *** GeekShadow <GeekShadow!~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow> has joined #haiku[01:35:30] *** brobostigon <brobostigon!~ptaylor@taylorworld.me.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:37:33] *** brobostigon <brobostigon!~ptaylor@taylorworld.me.uk> has joined #haiku[01:43:10] *** jjpx <jjpx!~jjpx@gateway/tor-sasl/jjpx> has joined #haiku[01:47:38] *** Scarecrow^2 <Scarecrow^2!~Scarecrow@210-1-218-92-cpe.spintel.net.au> has joined #haiku[01:53:10] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@221.218.36.36> has joined #haiku[01:57:47] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@186.22.120.78> has joined #haiku[02:05:07] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@221.218.36.36> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:10:59] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-211-43-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:13:42] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-211-43-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has joined #haiku[02:27:43] *** Scarecrow^2 <Scarecrow^2!~Scarecrow@210-1-218-92-cpe.spintel.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in)[02:38:39] *** GeekShadow <GeekShadow!~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[02:38:56] *** GeekShadow <GeekShadow!~antoine@nzf.turmel.info> has joined #haiku[02:38:56] *** GeekShadow <GeekShadow!~antoine@nzf.turmel.info> has quit IRC (Changing host)[02:38:56] *** GeekShadow <GeekShadow!~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow> has joined #haiku[02:40:25] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[02:43:37] *** hbelusca <hbelusca!~hbelusca@reactos/developer/hbelusca> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[02:50:10] <Pentode> who would ever need more than 500mb of storage?![03:07:41] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/fhAF9[03:07:43] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 0e83e54 - Otter-Browser: add haiku icons for download manager[03:20:32] <LadySerena> cat fuel melts steel beams[03:27:59] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving http://bbsweb.mozysswamp.org or telnet bbs.mozysswamp.org need app goto http://syncterm.net/)[03:36:47] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[03:43:11] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[03:48:47] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[03:59:46] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@49.207.185.66> has joined #haiku[04:03:27] <Rajagopalan> hey pulkomandy[04:03:59] <Rajagopalan> on one point of the build it says missing binary operator before token ([04:04:11] <Rajagopalan> specifically in file[04:05:24] <Rajagopalan> NetworkProcess/EntryPoint/unix/NetworkProcessmainunix.cpp[04:05:32] <Rajagopalan> it says USE is not defined[04:05:46] <Rajagopalan> but it can be used in different places[04:05:55] <Rajagopalan> is there any configuration i should change/[04:05:56] <Rajagopalan> ?[04:08:15] <Rajagopalan> Ok since -Wundef is enabled when the directory is not defined its throwing error[04:08:25] <Rajagopalan> But i suppose use is defined right[04:15:19] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.77.51> has joined #haiku[04:16:05] <mmu_man> Rajagopalan: it's 4am here btw :-)[04:16:29] <mmu_man> so don't expect an answer rapidly :)[04:16:42] <Rajagopalan> yeah i can understand :)[04:17:13] <Rajagopalan> i just posted so pulkomandy would read my logs and answer me in his free time :)[04:25:52] *** Glider_IRC <Glider_IRC!~Glider_IR@37.164.13.125> has joined #haiku[04:31:47] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[04:34:17] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@221.218.36.36> has joined #haiku[04:37:23] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[04:41:02] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@2001:ee0:4101:1326::f2c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[04:42:41] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@2001:ee0:4101:88c9:a37f:eec4:5e70:ef8> has joined #haiku[04:44:27] <mmu_man> mv: cannot stat '/packages/fltk_x86-1.3~git-1/.self/develop/documentation/fltk_x86': No such file or directory[04:44:30] <mmu_man> bleh[04:44:35] <mmu_man> packageEntries devel \[04:44:35] <mmu_man> $developDir \[04:44:35] <mmu_man> $developDocDir \[04:44:47] <mmu_man> developDocDir is in developDir…[04:44:54] <mmu_man> I should really just go to bed[05:04:23] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@221.218.36.36> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[05:15:36] <mmu_man> WTF /bin/install strips resources?[05:25:27] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] mmuman pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://git.io/fhAbp[05:25:29] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] mmuman 92db0c6 - Add recipe for my FLTK port git branch[05:41:06] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has quit IRC ()[05:47:33] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[05:48:19] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~bbjimmy@host-67-44-193-24.hnremote.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[06:01:15] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~matt@pool-108-52-159-210.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:09:37] *** jjpx <jjpx!~jjpx@gateway/tor-sasl/jjpx> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:09:56] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~AlienSold@modemcable087.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[06:11:51] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~bbjimmy@host-67-44-193-24.hnremote.net> has joined #haiku[06:16:33] *** Glider_IRC_ <Glider_IRC_!~Glider_IR@37.164.13.125> has joined #haiku[06:20:17] *** Glider_IRC <Glider_IRC!~Glider_IR@37.164.13.125> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[06:30:27] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.77.51> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[06:38:07] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[06:40:38] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[06:42:42] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:43:21] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[06:44:15] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:46:20] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.77.51> has joined #haiku[06:47:23] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[06:48:03] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[06:49:44] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:51:42] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4qba4ebfi6pcrxzad5l.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[06:51:51] <Rajagopalan> hey begasus[06:52:53] <Begasus> g'morning Rajagopalan and peeps :)[06:53:06] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[06:58:10] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[07:03:44] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@cpe-74-69-85-116.rochester.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[07:04:39] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@cpe-74-69-85-116.rochester.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:09:25] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[07:21:58] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@221.218.36.36> has joined #haiku[07:22:11] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@61-68-96-205.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)[07:36:02] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[07:41:42] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.77.51> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[07:43:37] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[07:47:57] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[07:54:41] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-211-43-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:54:58] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-211-43-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has joined #haiku[07:57:07] *** e1z0_ <e1z0_!~null@88.216.80.57> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[07:58:21] <PulkoMandy> hi there[07:58:28] * PulkoMandy wakes up and powers up the other machine[07:59:15] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[08:03:27] <Begas_VBox> bonjour PulkoMandy :)[08:05:01] *** Warg286 <Warg286!~Warg286@50.110.99.221> has joined #haiku[08:05:26] <Warg286> go go gadget 12MHz[08:10:29] <LadySerena> I have a $2 controller that can clock 20MHz[08:18:53] <PulkoMandy> but does it have an IRC client?[08:21:11] <Warg286> illegal instruction error ;_;[08:21:35] <Warg286> boo 386+ only[08:23:16] <LadySerena> PulkoMandy, if you have an Arduino ethernet shield and a way to interact with the Arduino over serial (the built-in USB port is fine), then yes, it does have an IRC client[08:25:03] <PulkoMandy> I have AVR chips and an ENC28J60 ethernet to SPI, so I could wire up something like that. But it's not fun if you use a PC as the serial terminal[08:25:38] <PulkoMandy> but I have one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel that would look better already[08:26:08] <LadySerena> if you use the serial pins from AVR, you can wire those directly to a serial terminal (like WYSE or a DEC)[08:26:52] <King_Warg> ;p[08:30:47] * LadySerena needs to get hold of p13[08:31:25] <King_Warg> need a case for my socket 4 pentium :o[08:31:46] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~MrHuggy@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has joined #haiku[08:31:51] <Scarecrow> I'm half inclined to pick up a Minitel terminal but the AZERTY keyboard puts me off somewhat[08:32:31] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[08:35:35] <PulkoMandy> Scarecrow: it seems a qwerty version was built for Ireland, but probably not as easy to get[08:35:51] <PulkoMandy> or, the initial version which had an alphabetical keyboard :p[08:35:53] <Scarecrow> yeah I doubt it, probably easier to find a plain dumb terminal locally[08:35:53] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[08:36:08] <Scarecrow> even though dumb terminals are not common in aus[08:36:22] <PulkoMandy> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Minitel-CnAM_44045-IMG_5396-gradient.jpg[08:36:49] <Scarecrow> either way, if you're gonna do stuff with a dumb terminal you should totally ping me with a video or something when you're done :D[08:38:44] <PulkoMandy> I've built the cable to connect it to my serial port but I don't remember where I stored it :/[08:39:23] <PulkoMandy> also, lots of possibly more useful things to do currently :>[08:39:55] <LadySerena> I need to figure out the legality of porting Haiku's graphics system to my kernel as the new KGS (Kernel Graphics Service), license seems compatible[08:40:21] <PulkoMandy> yes, MIT license is compatible with everything :>[08:40:43] <PulkoMandy> that's why we chose it[08:40:47] <LadySerena> when it comes time to release my kernel, it shall be BSD[08:40:54] <Scarecrow> on a mostly unrelated note, I had a go at putting the haiku aesthetic onto a webpage does anyone wanna see[08:41:14] <LadySerena> but would I need to credit the Haiku project during the kernel's boot screen?[08:47:04] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[08:49:03] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[08:49:24] <LadySerena> Scarecrow, what ya got?[08:49:34] <Scarecrow> https://lain.church[08:49:36] *** HAIKU-irker328 <HAIKU-irker328!~irker@walter.haiku-os.org> has joined #haiku[08:49:36] <HAIKU-irker328> haiku.master: aplgithub * hrev52947 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=17dc34acd6f6+%5Ec91b716e09f9[08:49:36] <HAIKU-irker328> 17dc34acd6f6: HaikuDepot: Build Configure for Python[08:49:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-irker328[08:50:02] <LadySerena> lookin good[08:50:36] <LadySerena> tho I think Haiku has consistent spacing between desktop icons, which is a minor fix to the CSS[08:51:29] *** yatendra1999 <yatendra1999!~mml@14.139.54.194> has joined #haiku[08:52:11] <Scarecrow> they have a max-width, adding a min-width that is the same should fix it[08:53:08] <LadySerena> yep[08:53:25] <LadySerena> https://lain.church/services.html ←- the Tracker window needs some work[08:53:41] <LadySerena> but I can see this is all still a work-in-progress[08:54:52] <PulkoMandy> Rajagopalan: I tried to build your branch, it complains that LayoutRect.h is not found[08:55:55] <Rajagopalan> hello pulkomandy[08:56:13] <Rajagopalan> i just messed up with all old commits[08:56:21] <Rajagopalan> i didnt sync my fork[08:56:22] <Rajagopalan> :([08:56:43] <Rajagopalan> so i had to do forch push into my repo[08:57:05] <Scarecrow> LadySerena: feedback is greatly appreciated :D[08:57:38] <Rajagopalan> but layoutRect was fixed in local include directories right?[08:58:47] *** Vrondir <Vrondir!~Vrondir@85.187.40.245> has joined #haiku[08:58:58] *** Vrondir <Vrondir!~Vrondir@85.187.40.245> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:00:26] <PulkoMandy> it should, yes, unless we forgot one path[09:00:39] <PulkoMandy> did you push the latest version of your commits? So I can try again?[09:02:50] <Rajagopalan> one sec pulkomandy[09:03:02] <Rajagopalan> origin is not in sync with upstream[09:03:06] <Rajagopalan> i need to fix that first[09:08:10] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[09:12:02] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/fhAx8[09:12:04] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 4ddfb72 - HaikuWebkit 1.6.9.[09:13:25] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[09:13:42] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@n106-71-211-213.rdl2.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #haiku[09:23:52] *** embden <embden!~embden@185.202.212.202> has joined #haiku[09:24:44] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:26:05] *** superprower <superprower!~superprow@188.130.155.151> has joined #haiku[09:28:12] *** Warg286 <Warg286!~Warg286@50.110.99.221> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:31:03] <superprower> Hi! What would be the correct directory to put modified video driver in? I put accelerant in /system/non-packaged/add-ons/accelerants and driver itself in /s/n/a/kernel/drivers/bin , are those correct? If so, do I need to do anything else to enable it? Can blacklisting original driver interfere with it, if I listed it's path starting from add-ons, not from /system/packages or something?[09:31:21] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.95.34> has joined #haiku[09:31:43] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@186.22.120.78> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:33:43] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[09:33:56] <PulkoMandy> superprower: hi, you need to blacklist the original accelerant and driver if you want to use replacements[09:34:10] <PulkoMandy> the files should be in the same paths as the originals with non-packaged added[09:34:37] <PulkoMandy> ./accelerants/intel_extreme.accelerant ./kernel/drivers/bin/intel_extreme ./kernel/drivers/dev/graphics/intel_extreme[09:35:07] <PulkoMandy> you probably need the symlink in kernel/drivers/dev/graphics/intel_extreme (pointing to the file in bin/)[09:36:36] <superprower> Just wanted to ask that. Thanks![09:39:32] *** e1z0 <e1z0!~null@88.216.80.57> has joined #haiku[09:41:45] <superprower> PulkoMandy: I don't see anything related to the driver in the syslog after reboot, what could I have done wrong?[09:42:22] <PulkoMandy> I don't know :)[09:43:15] <PulkoMandy> does the driver have tracing enabled? is it built for the same arch as your kernel? does it have device IDs matching your hardware?[09:45:01] <superprower> Yes, TRACE_DRIVER is defined in driver.cpp ; Yes, used same tools ; I think I would have at least seen messages about it trying to initialize, like with every other driver, don't I?[09:45:16] *** pemdp <pemdp!~pedro@a95-94-254-121.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #haiku[09:45:26] <superprower> Is it ok if I put it in /system/non-packaged instead of ~/config/non-packaged?[09:47:08] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[09:47:10] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has joined #haiku[09:47:42] *** yatendra1999 <yatendra1999!~mml@14.139.54.194> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:48:50] <PulkoMandy> ah, yes, drivers should go in /system[09:49:25] <PulkoMandy> I don't think we allow loading them from the user directory, because drivers can't be specific to a particular users, they are always for everyone using the machine[09:49:44] <PulkoMandy> so /system/non-packaged will work better[09:49:47] <superprower> Ok, just wanted to double check that[09:51:51] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[09:54:35] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:56:54] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[10:00:05] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/fhApe[10:00:06] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] ivmai 8a43f61 - libatomic_ops: bump to 7.6.10 (#3668)[10:03:06] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@221.218.36.36> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)[10:03:52] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@221.218.36.36> has joined #haiku[10:05:19] <superprower> sorry, laptop went nuts for a sec. So I investigated a bit and noticed that original driver simlink is not in kernel/drivers/dev, but in /kernel/drivers/dev/graphics. I'll try blacklisting that and putting my driver like that and report back[10:07:37] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[10:08:05] <superprower> Aha, got kernel panic from it.[10:08:11] <superprower> Everything cool now, thanks.[10:24:21] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/fhApC[10:24:23] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb f33cd80 - Tipster: update recipe for v1.1.1[10:29:59] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has joined #haiku[10:39:35] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[10:45:35] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@113.65.127.77> has joined #haiku[10:46:23] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[10:50:35] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[10:53:09] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@61-68-96-205.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[11:06:18] *** pemdp <pemdp!~pedro@a95-94-254-121.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:10:57] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-115-098.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[11:10:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[11:17:21] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[11:26:43] *** preetpal <preetpal!~preetpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:33:39] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~root@x4dbf9285.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[11:37:25] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[11:37:56] *** blassin <blassin!~sardaukar@142.19.249.5.rev.vodafone.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)[11:39:43] *** blassin <blassin!~sardaukar@142.19.249.5.rev.vodafone.pt> has joined #haiku[11:42:59] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.77.112> has joined #haiku[11:49:37] *** HAIKU-irker328 <HAIKU-irker328!~irker@walter.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (Quit: transmission timeout)[11:52:08] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~root@x4dbf9285.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:54:25] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[11:57:57] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@2.236.49.9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:00:09] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!Vision@67.219.239.116> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:00:49] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@2.236.49.9> has joined #haiku[12:08:56] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[12:14:07] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@221.218.36.36> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:18:36] <superprower> How can I (temporarily) disable "treat warnings as errors" behaviour?[12:21:50] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@113.65.127.77> has quit IRC (Quit: andyhuzhill)[12:22:12] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@221.218.36.36> has joined #haiku[12:24:43] <PulkoMandy> comment out the EnableWerror line for the directory in build/jam/ArchitectureRules[12:26:04] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has joined #haiku[12:34:29] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~root@x4dbf9285.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[12:54:13] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[13:00:06] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[13:04:13] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@221.218.36.36> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[13:25:24] <Rajagopalan> pulkomandy my branch is now up to date[13:27:50] <Rajagopalan> the current code will be able to reproduce the error i mentioned before[13:28:13] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~root@x4dbf9285.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: System rebooting)[13:35:18] <superprower> How do I turn hexadecimal offset from Stack Trace to the line (or something) offset? Or maybe there is the way to make use of something like addr2line?[13:39:32] <PulkoMandy> Rajagopalan: ok, let's try[13:39:52] <PulkoMandy> superprower: mh yes, addr2line on the kernel elf file should work I think?[13:43:41] <Diver1> PulkoMandy: looks like both builders stuck at compiling webkit[13:44:04] <Begasus> re[13:44:11] <PulkoMandy> Diver1: I don't manage the builders :)[13:44:34] <Diver1> [1565/2048] Building CXX object Source...sources/UnifiedSource-3a52ce78-1.cpp.o[13:44:47] <PulkoMandy> well it's just slow, no?[13:44:51] <Diver1> [1758/2048] Building CXX object Source...sources/UnifiedSource-4b02f047-1.cpp.o[13:45:20] <Diver1> x86 and x86_64 respectively[13:51:53] <superprower> PulkoMandy: doesn't work for me for some reason, maybe I am typing in the wrong address.... Yet, let's say I have a report on a function name from a stack trace + some offset, let's say 0x262. What do I do with that offset in regards to function beginning?[13:52:19] <PulkoMandy> you add it to the function start address[13:52:44] <PulkoMandy> which you can find from the elf file for example with readelf -aW kernel_x86 | grep someFunction[13:52:47] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[13:53:57] <PulkoMandy> maybe you need to do this from the .o file the function is in, and not the complete kernel, if we didn't include debug info there, not sure[13:54:21] <superprower> PulkoMandy: uh-huh, and after I got the function address and summed it with offset from the stack trace?[13:54:57] <PulkoMandy> addr2line -e kernel_x86 address[13:59:49] <Rajagopalan> yes Pulkomandy :)[14:00:08] *** DepositePirate_ <DepositePirate_!~dpirate@gateway/tor-sasl/depositepirate> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:00:54] *** DepositePirate_ <DepositePirate_!~dpirate@gateway/tor-sasl/depositepirate> has joined #haiku[14:02:20] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@61-68-96-205.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)[14:35:17] *** hbelusca <hbelusca!~hbelusca@reactos/developer/hbelusca> has joined #haiku[14:40:50] <PulkoMandy> Rajagopalan: ok, so it's still the same error I had earlier, "CustomProtocol has not been declared"[14:42:10] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has joined #haiku[14:44:15] <PulkoMandy> the file (LegacyCustomProtocolManager.h) has implementations for Mac/Cocoa and Soup, but not for Haiku yet[14:44:32] <PulkoMandy> so we need to add some #if PLATFORM(HAIKU) inside it with the relevant implementation[14:44:58] <PulkoMandy> or, we can try to avoid using that file[14:45:18] <PulkoMandy> as there is no CURL implementation in it, curl version of the network code must be using something else[14:50:44] *** ClaudioM <ClaudioM!~ClaudioM@c-73-46-231-176.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[14:52:41] <Rajagopalan> i disabled legacycustomprotocolmanager[14:52:46] <Rajagopalan> so we dont need that[14:52:53] <Rajagopalan> even win has it disbled pulkomandy[14:54:36] <Rajagopalan> i think we can disable it too im not sure[14:58:39] *** ClaudioM <ClaudioM!~ClaudioM@c-73-46-231-176.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[15:05:03] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[15:10:44] <superprower> Want to sanity-check myself. Can I really be sure, if `listimage | grep accel` shows me intel_extreme.accelerant, that everything really works and there is no framebuffer/vesa fallback behind my back?[15:19:27] <waddlesplash> superprower: if you are using VESA/fb, then Screen preferences will say so[15:20:05] <Diver1> vesa driver is always loaded[15:22:35] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@cpc139332-aztw33-2-0-cust232.18-1.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haiku[15:22:44] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@cpc139332-aztw33-2-0-cust232.18-1.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:23:56] <waddlesplash> Diver1: but VESA accelerant isn't[15:24:36] <Diver1> ah, ok, didn't know that[15:33:01] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[15:45:32] *** jjpx <jjpx!~jjpx@gateway/tor-sasl/jjpx> has joined #haiku[16:00:17] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[16:00:35] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:06:04] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:06:16] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[16:07:00] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[16:07:57] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:23:00] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has joined #haiku[16:24:15] *** Glider_IRC__ <Glider_IRC__!~Glider_IR@37.169.165.111> has joined #haiku[16:24:21] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://git.io/fhxfR[16:24:22] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] pgrobelniak ba31d34 - 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It's called "Legacy" so if we can do without it, that's great[18:26:16] <Rajagopalan> i disabled it[18:26:26] <Rajagopalan> u can find that in my latest commit pulkomandy[18:26:58] <Rajagopalan> and the next error i get as i said is that it says USE is not defined in if directive[18:27:30] <Rajagopalan> The source which creates that error is NetwrokProcess/Entrypoint/unix/..cpp[18:27:43] <Rajagopalan> isnt use defined?[18:27:53] <Rajagopalan> for debugging purpose i used platform also[18:28:03] <Rajagopalan> it says platform is also not found[18:28:42] <Rajagopalan> is it isolating itself from the main build i dont know i cant possibly think of an explanation[18:28:53] <Rajagopalan> am i missing something small :([18:36:13] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@61-68-96-205.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)[18:36:57] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@61-68-96-205.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[18:39:53] *** HAIKU-irker772 <HAIKU-irker772!~irker@walter.haiku-os.org> has joined #haiku[18:39:53] <HAIKU-irker772> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev52948 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=2e1e3f0d75c2+%5E17dc34acd6f6[18:39:53] <HAIKU-irker772> 2e1e3f0d75c2: runtime_loader: fix failures in the test suite.[18:39:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-irker772[18:39:53] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has joined #haiku[18:40:25] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@61-68-96-205.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:40:49] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@61-68-96-205.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[18:41:53] <HAIKU-irker772> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev52949 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=695f50f6cc55+%5E2e1e3f0d75c2[18:41:54] <HAIKU-irker772> 695f50f6cc55: XHCI: Adjust timeouts in WaitOpBits.[18:43:40] <Rajagopalan> ok pulkomandy its around 1 pm here and i have exam tommorow[18:43:49] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@190.142.254.26> has joined #haiku[18:43:53] <PulkoMandy> sure, back to work :>[18:43:56] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@190.142.254.26> has joined #haiku[18:43:57] <PulkoMandy> I'll look into it[18:44:03] <Rajagopalan> so let me get some sleep[18:44:12] <Rajagopalan> thank you ;)[18:44:17] <Rajagopalan> good night :)[18:44:18] <PulkoMandy> it seems we are less than a hundred files from trying to link, nice progress :)[18:44:23] <PulkoMandy> good night[18:44:29] <Rajagopalan> yay thank you[18:44:32] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@190.142.254.26> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:44:32] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@190.142.254.26> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:44:34] <Rajagopalan> can i celebrate?[18:44:39] <Rajagopalan> hahaha[18:44:49] <mmu_man> Champomy ![18:45:10] <Rajagopalan> mmu_man whats that?[18:45:15] *** Darkrai <Darkrai!~vision@190.142.254.26> has joined #haiku[18:45:21] <mmu_man> 🍾[18:45:30] <mmu_man> Rajagopalan: like Champaign, but without alcool[18:46:08] <mmu_man> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champomy[18:46:29] <Rajagopalan> is it for me[18:46:33] *** Darkrai <Darkrai!~vision@190.142.254.26> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:46:36] <Rajagopalan> to celebrate?[18:46:41] <mmu_man> yeah :)[18:46:48] <Rajagopalan> thank you ;)[18:46:57] <Rajagopalan> alright good night guys :)[18:47:17] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@49.207.185.66> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:47:20] *** DarkraiRMV <DarkraiRMV!~vision@190.142.254.26> has joined #haiku[18:47:45] <Begas_VBox> plop[18:47:51] <Begas_VBox> hi mmu_man :)[18:48:22] <DarkraiRMV> hello[18:49:30] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@49.207.185.66> has joined #haiku[18:50:14] <mmu_man> plop[18:50:56] *** Rajagopalan <Rajagopalan!~Rajagopal@49.207.185.66> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:51:25] <Begas_VBox> made some changes to your commit for fltk, could you check?[18:51:31] <Begas_VBox> hi DarkraiRMV[18:51:51] <DarkraiRMV> this haiku os is cool[18:53:22] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.77.112> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:53:22] <mmu_man> sure[18:54:14] <DarkraiRMV> but i have an issue, i have the recommended system specs and eats all of my ram, leaving only 70 or 100 mb ram free[18:54:50] <hbelusca> Champomy, lol mmu_man xD[18:55:24] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.165.43> has joined #haiku[18:57:38] <Begas_VBox> ok, this is not working (probably obviously) set(ASSETDIR "`finddir B_SYSTEM_DATA_DIRECTORY`/abuse")[18:57:54] <Begas_VBox> can't seem to pin it down to use the correct sentence ;)[18:58:44] *** fredix <fredix!~fredix@51.15.237.206> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.0 - https://znc.in)[18:58:55] *** fredix <fredix!~fredix@51.15.237.206> has joined #haiku[19:00:07] <mmu_man> lol didn't remember I actually created an issue for that on github[19:00:29] <Begas_VBox> :)[19:00:54] <Begas_VBox> I had been looking into that because of the issue, but didn't think it would be ready for a recipe :)[19:02:20] <mmu_man> you're not mixing up fltk?[19:02:23] <Begas_VBox> DarkraiRMV, I think most of us run Haiku with some GB's of RAM these days :)[19:02:25] *** Vidrep_gcc2h <Vidrep_gcc2h!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[19:02:51] <Begas_VBox> mixing up mmu_man?[19:02:54] <Begas_VBox> hi Vidrep_gcc2h![19:03:03] <mmu_man> abuse vs fltk ?[19:03:08] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Hi Begas_VBox![19:03:31] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Looks like we have a regression with a Radeon HD7570[19:03:56] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I saw the new ticket posted and tried mine again - not working now[19:03:59] <Begas_VBox> no :) looking into abuse now mmu_man :)[19:04:28] <Begas_VBox> looks better now for abuse :)[19:04:33] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I'll try and determine where the regression took place[19:04:49] *** Vidrep_gcc2h <Vidrep_gcc2h!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:05:40] *** Amigori_ <Amigori_!~amigori@209-112-211-43-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has joined #haiku[19:05:40] *** Amigori <Amigori!~amigori@209-112-211-43-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:07:30] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.40.198.245> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[19:09:58] <DarkraiRMV> hey how i can download haiku packages directly from internet? haikudepot is soo slow on my crap internet[19:10:13] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:12:11] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[19:12:44] <Begas_VBox> you could try to use "pkgman" DarkraiRMV (in Terminal) not sure if it would speed your connection though :)[19:14:16] <DarkraiRMV> ok i will try, and thanks for the useful tip.[19:22:39] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[19:24:36] <Vidrep_64> hUMUNGUs - is this your post? https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/problem-with-radeon-hd-7570/8329[19:33:14] <Begasus> mmu_man, the libs are required by fluid (that's correct, but not for fluid_devel package I think)[19:35:12] <Begasus> build without them in REQUIRES_devel and fluid still runs the same without them (as they are already declared as required in REQUIRES)[19:37:18] *** DarkraiRMV <DarkraiRMV!~vision@190.142.254.26> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[19:37:52] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:38:12] *** SimpleBrain <SimpleBrain!~simp@34.187.125.91.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[19:45:37] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[19:47:33] <mmu_man> Begasus: ok, fine[19:53:16] *** jjpx <jjpx!~jjpx@gateway/tor-sasl/jjpx> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:55:28] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[19:56:59] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:59:34] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:00:22] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[20:03:05] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[20:04:46] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has joined #haiku[20:09:14] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:09:32] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[20:19:45] *** B2IT <B2IT!B2IT@www.agmsmith.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[20:28:17] *** B2IT <B2IT!B2IT@www.agmsmith.ca> has joined #haiku[20:28:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v B2IT[20:29:44] *** kupi <kupi!uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zydbxhdengfhoqxy> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:31:12] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~root@x4dbf9285.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[20:33:19] *** Vrondir <Vrondir!~Vrondir@85.187.40.245> has joined #haiku[20:33:28] *** Vrondir <Vrondir!~Vrondir@85.187.40.245> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:36:05] <hUMUNGUs> vidrep-64: yes[20:55:01] <superprower> Can you remind me how can I manually invoke KDL from the code?[20:57:00] <waddlesplash> superprower: panic() will trigger a KDL[20:57:15] <waddlesplash> in kernel mode, that is[20:57:46] <waddlesplash> superprower: working on intel_extreme? how's that going?[20:59:53] <PulkoMandy> and if you ever want to do it from userland: https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/bin/debug/kernel_debugger.cpp[21:00:03] <PulkoMandy> (no reason for that, I think :))[21:00:39] <superprower> Got it, thanks! Well, I'm currently trying to find commit that caused current behaviout, but unfotunately I encountered series of commits that cause Page Faults, and one particular commit that caused it makes no sence (same lines are present in master but nothing happening there). And for some reason addr2line doesn't work for me at all, so I can't get exact line where it happens, so I think I could use good[21:00:40] <superprower> old debugging with printing to try and find that.[21:01:03] <waddlesplash> probably either kallisti5's or PulkoMandy's refactor broke it on your hardware[21:01:16] <waddlesplash> likely there is an existing ticket with at least some info; likely the PLL is to blame[21:01:30] <waddlesplash> PulkoMandy can probably help you figure out the PLL, if that is indeed the problem[21:01:49] <superprower> First guy, yeah. By the way, I found a kernel_debugger() function, can I use it? I see it is used for SysRq combination, for example.[21:02:38] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[21:02:55] <PulkoMandy> I didn't refactor much things. I just brought back code for some cards that was lost in kallisti5's work...[21:03:17] <PulkoMandy> superprower: from userland, yes, but why would you do that?[21:03:29] <Begasus> k, abuse seems to be fine now, heading down, g'night peeps[21:03:29] <PulkoMandy> if your problems are in userland, there are better debugging tools. Just call debugger()[21:03:34] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4qba4ebfi6pcrxzad5l.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[21:04:50] <superprower> What's PLL, by the way? Can't seem to find definition anywhere[21:04:55] <PulkoMandy> I rarely needed addr2line. Usually looking at the disassembly allowed me to guess where in the function we are and what we are doing. But I don't do much live debugging anyway on this, it has been mostly tring to guess and fix problems from syslogs...[21:05:09] <PulkoMandy> Phase Locked Loop, it's used to generate an highre frequency from a lower one[21:05:21] <PulkoMandy> in the case of graphics driver, it's used to generate the pixel clock[21:06:15] <superprower> And almost every intel device needs different configuration for it?[21:06:34] <PulkoMandy> essentially it's divide the frequency by some value, multiply by another, then divide again[21:06:49] <PulkoMandy> but there are constraints on the multipliers, dividers, and min/max value at each step[21:07:07] <PulkoMandy> and of course, Intel changed those over the card generations, to handle higher resolutions and refresh rates[21:07:20] <PulkoMandy> so yes, the values are different in each generation[21:07:46] <PulkoMandy> we extracted them from the datasheets, but sometimes the Linux driver uses different values because the hardware doesn't follow the spec[21:08:11] <PulkoMandy> and we also had a bug in the code trying to figure out the best setting, that was basically never using one of the dividers, and ending up with very imprecise frequencies[21:09:20] <PulkoMandy> but I don't think I have seen problems with the PLLs in a while. They are quite low level simple stuff, actually. Unless you're adding a new generation of chipsets and we don't know which constraints to use for it[21:09:54] <PulkoMandy> and even then, we would probably still end up with a frequency that's off, but possibly not far enough from the target, so the display could still work, just at the wrong refresh rate[21:10:28] <PulkoMandy> or in the worst case, the PLL would be left in an unstable state, and you would see the display waving, and the monitor probably eventually complaining about it[21:10:44] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~AlienSold@modemcable087.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[21:14:31] <superprower> What would be the symptom of misconfigured PLL? Is something like a black screen but with ability to call and use KDL could be one?[21:14:56] <waddlesplash> yes, I think so[21:15:57] <PulkoMandy> "black screen" is a symptom for "something is wrong" when you write a graphics driver :D[21:16:55] <PulkoMandy> that's why it's a little annoying to work on[21:17:05] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[21:17:08] <PulkoMandy> there is a lot to setup, and you may be 99% right and still get a black screen[21:17:20] * waddlesplash needs to go back to DRM driver porting[21:19:32] <Vidrep_64> Hi again[21:20:28] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:23:57] <q5sys> waddlesplash: did you get my last email?[21:24:10] <waddlesplash> q5sys: yes, sorry, didn't reply yet because past 3 days were ridiculous[21:24:16] <waddlesplash> and 2 weeks before that was even more so[21:24:39] <q5sys> no problem... just needed to know if I needed to find someone else for this coming Tues or if you were still good.[21:24:57] <q5sys> I dont mind either way, I just need to get ducks in a row for this week. :P[21:25:02] <HAIKU-irker772> haiku.master: aplgithub * hrev52950 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=52a61976d491+%5E695f50f6cc55[21:25:03] <HAIKU-irker772> 52a61976d491: pkgman: fix for syntax (help)[21:25:05] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~AlienSold@modemcable087.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[21:29:12] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~AlienSold@modemcable087.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:29:55] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~AlienSold@modemcable087.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[21:30:19] <superprower> I'll try comparing PLL settings from working revision with master next time. Thanks, everyone.[21:33:07] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep_64 i wonder if the driver is just not compatible with mine or if it is related to your 7570 problem, my HD8400 R3 series always was in VESA.[21:33:38] <superprower> Just curios, have anyone exported Writing Video Card Drivers In BeOS article to something printable? Would like to print for easier reading, but don't want to print each and every webpage.[21:34:55] <superprower> Link on guy's website goes straight to page on haiku-os.org...[21:37:35] <Vidrep_64> AlienSoldier, my card was fixed about 2 years ago. Since then, I pulled the Radeon car for the on-board Intel (VESA)[21:37:41] <Vidrep_64> *card[21:38:07] <Vidrep_64> When I saw the forum post, I thought I'd try it again, and now it is not working[21:39:40] <Vidrep_64> Not sure at all about your HD8400[21:39:56] <PulkoMandy> superprower: at some point in the accelerant there was code to dump all videocard registers to a file after init[21:40:06] <PulkoMandy> you can compare dumps of various revisions to see what changed[21:40:16] <PulkoMandy> I think its still there but disabled by default[21:40:19] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has joined #haiku[21:41:29] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[21:45:00] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[21:49:26] <HAIKU-irker772> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev52951 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d7b8d76a7862+%5E52a61976d491[21:49:27] <HAIKU-irker772> d7b8d76a7862: BSD headers: remove _BSD_SOURCE feature gate for sysexits.h[21:53:43] <Not-8d6a> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fhxLN[21:53:44] <Not-8d6a> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 4ef2c3e - February Activity Report: Date and typo fix.[21:56:28] <HAIKU-irker772> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev52952 [5 commits] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a7c23bb4a928+%5Ed7b8d76a7862[21:56:29] <HAIKU-irker772> 5f49c5585101: m68k: simplify a Jamfile.[21:56:30] <HAIKU-irker772> c5769c4f6b17: Make -Wcast-align only a warning[21:56:31] <HAIKU-irker772> c1566b155554: sparc: more platform headers[21:56:32] <HAIKU-irker772> e6c9be767b06: sparc: interrupt management functions[21:56:33] <HAIKU-irker772> a7c23bb4a928: kernel/arch/sparc: stubs to get the kernel to link[22:01:18] <HAIKU-irker772> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev52953 [2 commits] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6823ced50548+%5Ea7c23bb4a928[22:01:19] <HAIKU-irker772> 8bdd63fe5d3a: Synchronize sysdep.h with current glibc[22:01:20] <HAIKU-irker772> 6823ced50548: Add some notes about the sparc architecture.[22:02:02] <HAIKU-irker772> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev52954 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e573a0cfad31+%5E6823ced50548[22:02:03] <HAIKU-irker772> e573a0cfad31: src/apps/codycam: fixes missing break statement[22:06:18] <hbelusca> mmu_man: ping[22:07:42] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[22:07:48] <HAIKU-irker772> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev52955 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=752ec5c625d8+%5Ee573a0cfad31[22:07:49] <HAIKU-irker772> 752ec5c625d8: Package kit: Fix -Werror=class-memaccess[22:08:16] <HAIKU-irker772> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev52956 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=74d9e19df944+%5E752ec5c625d8[22:08:17] <HAIKU-irker772> 74d9e19df944: apps/tv: Fix -Werror=class-memaccess[22:13:25] *** leemon <leemon!c610428b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.16.66.139> has joined #haiku[22:14:38] <leemon> Hello all, I was trying to build a @nightly-raw image or any image but I have some problems:[22:15:02] <leemon> don't know how to make @image[22:15:15] <leemon> though, I was able to build AboutSystem[22:15:38] <waddlesplash> if you are building a single component, then jam will just error that it doesn't know anything about "@" target[22:15:52] <waddlesplash> I don't think we found a way to "eat" @-profile, so, the error is normal[22:18:15] <PulkoMandy> what is the command line you used? and what is the exact error?[22:19:37] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:19:37] <leemon> $JAM_EXEC -q -sHAIKU_OUTPUT_DIR=./generated.x86_gcc2/ @image[22:19:56] <leemon> JAM_EXEC is a path to jam[22:19:59] <leemon> jam0[22:22:09] <PulkoMandy> ah, you shouldn't use jam0[22:22:17] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] mmuman pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/fhxt0[22:22:19] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] mmuman 310a112 - Add recipe for frei0r[22:22:21] <PulkoMandy> jam0 is a reduced version that you use to build the real jam[22:23:36] <PulkoMandy> and indeed we don't document this anywhere in https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building ... sorry :'([22:23:55] <mmu_man> hbelusca: pong[22:23:59] <PulkoMandy> so, in jam directory, run "make" to get a jam0, then run jam0 to get a jam binary[22:24:05] <mmu_man> oh, m68k[22:24:08] <PulkoMandy> then, jam install if you want it in /usr/local/bin or so[22:24:29] <PulkoMandy> mmu_man: yes, for some reason many jamfiles use MultiArchDirSetup which is useless except on x86[22:24:34] <PulkoMandy> for both m68k and ppc[22:24:49] <leemon> PulkoMandy: ok, I thought that make install just rename and move jam0 to a proper dir[22:24:51] <mmu_man> hmm, sure it's not used for platform instead?[22:24:52] <PulkoMandy> (it might be useful for ARM if we someday attempt ARM/AARCH64 hybrids?)[22:25:12] <hbelusca> mmu_man: hi, I haven't tested haiku yet, so sorry for my ignorance. Does haiku installer sets multiboot configuration in case there are already existing OSes on the machine or on the target-installation disk?[22:25:16] <PulkoMandy> well, TARGET_ARCH is already set, so there is no need to loop over something esle[22:25:31] <waddlesplash> hbelusca: only if you request it, and only supported for BIOS MBR[22:25:49] <waddlesplash> hbelusca: on EFI you must install the loader manually to system EFI partition[22:25:59] <PulkoMandy> the installer does not touch your existing bootloader, but you can install our own bootmanager (BootMan) that will just chainload the partition boot records[22:26:06] -HAIKU-Buildbot- Build haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid #328 is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku (failure)] - https://build.haiku-os.org/buildbot/#builders/4/builds/328[22:26:08] <AlienSoldier> one of new thing i notice with the new soundplay bug is that once something start to play, it take lot of cpu in the "display thread updater"[22:26:23] <PulkoMandy> (on a single disk currently, but that's a limitation of the bootloader installer, not the bootloader itself[22:26:25] <PulkoMandy> )[22:26:57] <waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: cc1plus: Invalid option `-Wno-error=cast-align'[22:27:02] <waddlesplash> lol, gcc2 bites again[22:27:18] <PulkoMandy> yes, right, none of my code is tested on non-sparc of course :>[22:27:38] <hbelusca> ok thanks; so it uses some OS/bootloader-presence recognition code? (in case of requesting multiboot install)[22:27:38] <waddlesplash> are you fixing? or should I?[22:27:53] <PulkoMandy> I was about to go to bed[22:27:58] <waddlesplash> hbelusca: no, it doesn't, but it also does not overwrite anything unless you explicitly request it[22:28:02] <waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: ok, I'll take it[22:28:05] <PulkoMandy> thanks[22:28:25] <hbelusca> thanks for the information waddlesplash / PulkoMandy[22:29:52] <AlaskanEmily> It would be really hand if gcc2 had an option to just ignore all unknown -Werror/-Wno-error options[22:30:00] <AlaskanEmily> handy, even[22:30:01] -HAIKU-Buildbot- Build haiku-x86_gcc2 #261 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw (failure)] - https://build.haiku-os.org/buildbot/#builders/56/builds/261[22:30:21] <waddlesplash> AlaskanEmily: GCC4+ does this, GCC2 just doesn't, and nobody wants to spend the time patching it[22:30:44] <AlaskanEmily> Would it be hard to patch?[22:32:43] <Not-8d6a> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fhxtw[22:32:44] <Not-8d6a> [haiku/website] waddlesplash de0946c - February Activity Report: Fix date again.[22:32:52] <waddlesplash> AlaskanEmily: no idea, never looked[22:33:51] -HAIKU-Buildbot- Build haiku-x86_gcc2_hybrid #244 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw (failure)] - https://build.haiku-os.org/buildbot/#builders/46/builds/244[22:34:17] <AlienSoldier> is it wanted that media player info report "32bit audio stereo"? Should that not be 16 bit?[22:35:29] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has joined #haiku[22:38:03] <AlienSoldier> On some mp3, media extractor thread take too much power and it can make mp3 skip[22:39:37] <AlienSoldier> can't seem to find what make them special other than having a png picture in them, perhaps this mess the seeking as the time on those with picture does not move like mp3 without picture do.[22:40:26] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@90.209.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC ()[22:40:52] <AlienSoldier> and that thread weirdly seem to move across all the cpu core as if the scheduler what passing a lighten dynamite stick around.[22:42:17] <AlienSoldier> humm, even do this when we stop the mp3[22:42:30] <AlienSoldier> media player sure don't like mp3 with pic in them.[22:48:08] <AlienSoldier> don't have that behavior in QMplay2[22:48:42] <AlienSoldier> cpu is normal and it show proper time progress[22:49:00] <AlienSoldier> media player is borked again like in good old time.[22:55:10] <leemon> I successfully built a night image and it asks me about installation. Is it possible to create a working system image not an installation one?[22:55:27] <waddlesplash> yes, the images are the same[22:55:31] <waddlesplash> just boot it from writeable media[22:57:13] <leemon> waddlesplash: oh, I see, thanks[23:00:20] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:00:46] *** geist <geist!~geist@tkgeisel.com> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[23:05:47] <HAIKU-irker772> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev52957 [3 commits] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ee735d1b3384+%5E74d9e19df944[23:05:48] <HAIKU-irker772> 2b20049687ed: configure: Check for python the same way we check for sha256.[23:05:49] <HAIKU-irker772> 3e5726525137: ArchitectureRules: -Wno-error=cast-align is only valid for GCC4+.[23:05:50] <HAIKU-irker772> ee735d1b3384: PackageKit: Fix BPackageInfoAttributeValue::Clear for GCC2.[23:08:53] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.95.34> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[23:10:16] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:14:04] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[23:14:18] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-115-098.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[23:14:27] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:17:01] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~root@x4dbf9285.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Client exiting)[23:22:29] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d75-156-156-137.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[23:32:37] <HAIKU-irker772> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev52958 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=dedf24f75771+%5Eee735d1b3384[23:32:38] <HAIKU-irker772> dedf24f75771: kernel: Don't load modules from non-packaged under "disable user add-ons".[23:35:21] *** geist <geist!~geist@tkgeisel.com> has joined #haiku[23:35:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o geist[23:35:42] *** geist <geist!~geist@tkgeisel.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:36:34] *** geist <geist!~geist@tkgeisel.com> has joined #haiku[23:36:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o geist[23:43:56] -HAIKU-Buildbot- Build haiku-x86_gcc2 #262 is complete: Success [build successful] - https://build.haiku-os.org/buildbot/#builders/56/builds/262[23:50:00] <leemon> I created a very short note on how to build Haiku[23:50:05] <leemon> https://medium.com/@strongleemon/starting-with-haikuos-cb3f547da8ef[23:51:36] -HAIKU-Buildbot- Build haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid #329 is complete: Success [build successful] - https://build.haiku-os.org/buildbot/#builders/4/builds/329[23:54:07] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has joined #haiku