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[04:00:36] <kallisti5> so... we're seeing iSCSI speeds of 6.8MiB/s
[04:00:40] <kallisti5> (on our server)
[04:00:46] <waddlesplash> still?
[04:00:52] <kallisti5> online.net keeps pushing to test on their end in rescue mode
[04:00:57] <kallisti5> yeah... it's off-and-on again
[04:01:35] <kallisti5> I *really* wish we sprung for two servers... then again this is getting a bit crazy
[04:01:59] <kallisti5> We have periods we peak to 100MiB/s which is 100% ok
[04:02:16] <kallisti5> hell.. I'd be happy as a clame at 70 or 60Mib/s
[04:02:25] <kallisti5> *clam MiB*
[04:02:56] <kallisti5> Their email support is a bit slow.. i'm still pushing back on them to troubleshoot without an outage
[04:03:05] <kallisti5> (offering them access, etc)
[04:03:14] <waddlesplash> right
[04:03:16] <kallisti5> worst case, we might have to schedule something
[04:03:23] <kallisti5> btw.. they aren't *that* slow
[04:03:42] <kallisti5> 7 days ago they emailed me pushing for rescue mode.. i just didn't reply due to the holidays
[04:04:08] <waddlesplash> meanwhile I am on day 8 of ipro1000 from FreeBSD 12.x porting
[04:04:15] <kallisti5> :-D
[04:04:23] <kallisti5> easy! :p
[04:04:28] <waddlesplash> status: attaches, publishes, inits
[04:04:35] <waddlesplash> and then NULL deref on first write()
[04:04:38] <kallisti5> good work btw... you're getting a shit-ton done lately
[04:04:49] <waddlesplash> I am up to about 700 lines written on this thing
[04:05:13] <waddlesplash> I've basically nothing else to do over the holidays, so, I've sunk a good 50 hours into it at this point
[04:05:19] <kallisti5> sounds like an ordering issue
[04:05:30] <kallisti5> aka, bsd init's something we're not
[04:05:32] <waddlesplash> all my panics have been NULL dereferences thus far
[04:05:39] <waddlesplash> no, this happens looong after init finishes
[04:05:45] <kallisti5> hm
[04:05:50] <waddlesplash> my first few null deref panics were indeed init problems
[04:05:52] <waddlesplash> this one isn't
[04:06:21] <waddlesplash> tldr: FreeBSD decided to write a 7000 line module called "iflib" which does everything plus the kitchen sink for ethernet drivers
[04:06:23] <kallisti5> I wonder if you could valgrind a kernel add-on :-)
[04:06:42] <waddlesplash> this module does literally everything you could imagine and required a ton of stuff that we didn't have
[04:06:48] <waddlesplash> "oh it'll be easy to port" -- the guy who wrote it
[04:06:54] <waddlesplash> lol no
[04:07:01] <kallisti5> lol.. that's what they always say
[04:07:17] <kallisti5> that's what mesa told me a ~5 years ago
[04:07:19] <waddlesplash> "we don't have gtaskqueue"
[04:07:27] <waddlesplash> "oh yeah, but you can just drop that in"
[04:07:32] <waddlesplash> "it wants cpuset"
[04:07:40] <waddlesplash> "oh yeah, but you can just #if 0 that out"
[04:08:14] <waddlesplash> then it wanted kobj, which is basically FreeBSD reinventing C++ vtables, but in C
[04:08:33] <kallisti5> this works on Haiku: https://github.com/kallisti5/ElectricFence
[04:08:40] <waddlesplash> but you see, it expected our existing device structs were kobjects
[04:08:44] <waddlesplash> which they of course aren't
[04:08:53] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: link libefence.a into the kernel add-on
[04:08:54] <waddlesplash> so I spent 2 days designing and then implementing a replacement system
[04:09:26] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: this is a NULL deref
[04:09:28] <waddlesplash> already panics :p
[04:09:45] <kallisti5> nooo
[04:10:01] <kallisti5> this catches allocation issues and *doesn't* panic
[04:10:06] <waddlesplash> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3SaeGciJ/image.png
[04:10:18] <waddlesplash> the backtrace fills 1.5 screens
[04:10:20] <kallisti5> if I remember correctly... been years since I used it on Haiku
[04:10:32] <waddlesplash> and I've got the dis in there
[04:11:13] <kallisti5> syslog?
[04:12:01] * kallisti5 has always been a fan of stupid levels of trace :-)
[04:13:18] <kallisti5> aka this tear inducing trace output: https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/add-ons/accelerants/radeon_hd/display.cpp#n244
[04:14:19] <waddlesplash> it's this line: http://xref.plausible.coop/source/xref/freebsd-current/sys/net/iflib.c#3696
[04:14:27] <waddlesplash> "m" == 0x1
[04:14:46] <waddlesplash> and that was returned from _ring_peek_one, which is some magic that I don't know
[04:15:17] <kallisti5> heh. interesting
[04:15:23] <kallisti5> 0x1 definitely not a pointer
[04:15:27] <kallisti5> and not NULL
[04:15:57] <kallisti5> jeezes
[04:16:04] <waddlesplash> it's "almost NULL"
[04:16:04] <kallisti5> consumed, reclaimed
[04:16:26] <waddlesplash> like I said, this module is massive, and stupid complex
[04:16:33] <waddlesplash> me: "why u do this?"
[04:17:02] <waddlesplash> them: "well it turns out that when you are on a 256-core server, traditional locking methods and atomics cause TX bottlenecks in problematic places, and so ..."
[04:17:51] <waddlesplash> ok, well, I'm taking a break for the rest of the evening
[04:18:01] <kallisti5> __DEVOLATILE
[04:18:02] <kallisti5> lol
[04:18:25] <waddlesplash> oh, and yes, the panic still happens when you compile with gcc7
[04:18:31] <kallisti5> &r->items[0]
[04:18:49] <kallisti5> remaining...
[04:19:00] * kallisti5 grabs a bible
[04:19:13] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: if you are in a debugging mood I'll push my wip to github :)
[04:19:20] * kallisti5 backs away
[04:19:24] <waddlesplash> LOL
[04:19:43] <waddlesplash> more than likely it's our mbuf code's fault
[04:19:45] <kallisti5> my head hurts and i'm on line 7 of _rink_peek_one
[04:19:48] <waddlesplash> but how it's our mbuf code's fault
[04:19:51] <waddlesplash> I have no idea
[04:20:00] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: now imagine me, having been in this code for 8 days now
[04:20:08] <kallisti5> trace the fuck out of _ring_peek_one
[04:20:08] <waddlesplash> and solved a dozen panics in all different parts of it
[04:20:26] <waddlesplash> all of which thus far were our fault
[04:20:33] <kallisti5> dump remaining counts, dump pointer addresses, etc
[04:20:36] <waddlesplash> (or mine more specifically)
[04:20:38] <kallisti5> then syslog in the kdl
[04:20:50] <kallisti5> that's my only advice. This code needs fire
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[04:21:01] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: ring_peek_one is a hack by iflib authors around this file http://xref.plausible.coop/source/xref/freebsd-current/sys/net/mp_ring.c
[04:21:10] <waddlesplash> I think
[04:21:36] <waddlesplash> yeah, it's reaching into the ifmp_ring and grabbing the next thing
[04:21:43] <waddlesplash> which is somehow 0x1
[04:21:53] <kallisti5> oh
[04:21:55] <kallisti5> duh
[04:21:58] <waddlesplash> so, something goofed bad
[04:22:01] <kallisti5> no
[04:22:03] <kallisti5> simply
[04:22:09] <kallisti5> *0x0
[04:22:13] <kallisti5> +1
[04:22:17] <waddlesplash> yes
[04:22:23] <waddlesplash> but who +1'd?
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[04:22:29] <waddlesplash> this is the mystery
[04:22:36] <kallisti5> either a *++
[04:22:37] <kallisti5> or.
[04:22:42] <kallisti5> some stupid mask operation?
[04:22:50] <waddlesplash> no idea
[04:23:03] <kallisti5> or a bit shift... but that wouldn't make sense in that code
[04:23:14] <kallisti5> my guess is *++
[04:23:17] <waddlesplash> it might
[04:23:27] <waddlesplash> there are bitshifts in mp_ring out the wazoo
[04:23:56] <kallisti5> heh.. i see a bunch of >> 1 's
[04:24:25] <waddlesplash> anyway, signing off for a few hours
[04:24:27] <waddlesplash> back later
[04:24:32] <kallisti5> kk. good luck
[04:24:33] <kallisti5> !
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[06:30:20] <Rajagopalan> Is the webkit engine for haiku coming with a browser
[06:30:32] <Rajagopalan> if so how to run it?
[06:30:33] <waddlesplash> uh, WebPositive uses it?
[06:30:47] <waddlesplash> and HaikuLauncher should be included in WebKit repository
[06:30:52] <Rajagopalan> yeah
[06:30:54] <waddlesplash> this is a much smaller shell than WebPositive and easier to test with
[06:30:55] <Rajagopalan> i tried running it
[06:31:05] <Rajagopalan> but it says libstdc++.r4 not found
[06:31:10] <Rajagopalan> should i do a pkgman
[06:31:48] <waddlesplash> libstdc++.r4 is the GCC2 libstdc++
[06:31:54] <waddlesplash> you may have done something incorrectly
[06:32:17] <waddlesplash> WebPositive and WebKit are GCC7 apps
[06:32:32] <Rajagopalan> but in webkit readme
[06:32:39] <Rajagopalan> they had instructions for gcc2
[06:32:41] <Rajagopalan> right?
[06:32:47] <Rajagopalan> i followed all those only
[06:32:55] <waddlesplash> no
[06:33:04] <waddlesplash> the instructions may be "for a gcc2hybrid Haiku"
[06:33:12] <waddlesplash> but you are always using the secondary compiler (gcc7)
[06:33:19] <waddlesplash> that's why it's called a "hybrid"
[06:33:30] <waddlesplash> WebKit requires GCC7 to build at all
[06:33:48] <Rajagopalan> it did build so
[06:33:54] <waddlesplash> OK, well then you used GCC7 :)
[06:33:57] <Rajagopalan> it used gcc7 only i guess
[06:34:18] <Rajagopalan> so hmm
[06:34:33] <Rajagopalan> am i missing any dependency here?
[06:34:43] <Rajagopalan> how to resolve runtime error
[06:34:59] <waddlesplash> no, you shouldn't be seeing this error, it means you did something incorrectly
[06:35:17] <waddlesplash> are you trying to run Web+ or HaikuLauncher?
[06:35:27] <Rajagopalan> Haikulauncher
[06:35:33] <waddlesplash> and how did you build it?
[06:35:49] <waddlesplash> and then, how are you invoking it?
[06:35:59] <Rajagopalan> i used the command for gcc2hybrid from webkit repo
[06:36:43] <waddlesplash> OK, how are you trying to run it?
[06:36:44] <Rajagopalan> PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/boot/system/develop/lib/x86/pkgconfig
[06:36:44] <Rajagopalan> CC=gcc-x86 CXX=g++-x86 Tools/Scripts/build-webkit --cmakeargs="-DCMAKE_AR=/bin/ar-x86 -DCMAKE_RANLIB=/bin/ranlib-x86" --haiku this command
[06:36:52] <waddlesplash> that's fine
[06:36:58] <Rajagopalan> to run it
[06:37:04] <waddlesplash> this is GCC7
[06:37:21] <Rajagopalan> yeah im using 86 architecture
[06:37:23] <Rajagopalan> and not 64
[06:37:31] <waddlesplash> yes, -x86_gcc2 means GCC2
[06:37:43] <waddlesplash> there are two "x86 not 64" architectures on Haiku
[06:38:04] <Rajagopalan> x86_gcc2
[06:38:11] <Rajagopalan> and x86_gcc7?
[06:38:19] <Rajagopalan> are those the difference?
[06:38:22] <waddlesplash> no, "x86_gcc2" and just "x86"
[06:38:27] <waddlesplash> x86 == x86 (gcc 7)
[06:38:41] <waddlesplash> but yes, that's the difference
[06:39:25] <Rajagopalan> one sec let me see what version i got
[06:41:19] <Rajagopalan> im on 32 bit hybrid architecture
[06:42:05] <Rajagopalan> so it has both gcc2 and gcc7
[06:42:08] <waddlesplash> yes, so "gcc" is gcc2, and "gcc-x86" is gcc7
[06:42:24] <waddlesplash> and if you run "setarch x86", it will start a sub-shell with a different PATH and then "gcc" will be GCC7
[06:43:37] <Rajagopalan> so if i run haiku lanucher from this shell
[06:43:44] <Rajagopalan> it should work right?
[06:44:37] <waddlesplash> depending on how you run it, yes
[06:45:28] <Rajagopalan> any flags i should set to invoke haikulanucher
[06:45:33] <Rajagopalan> i switched to gcc 7
[06:46:20] <Rajagopalan> then ./haikulauncher should work right?
[06:47:04] <waddlesplash> again, it should, but if something was miscompiled then it may not
[06:47:11] <waddlesplash> please paste the full invocation
[06:49:17] <Rajagopalan> i did ./Haikulauncher thats all
[06:49:27] <waddlesplash> ok, well, it sounds like it was mislinked
[06:49:28] <Rajagopalan> same error
[06:49:37] <waddlesplash> something was compiled with gcc2 and something with gcc7
[06:49:41] <Rajagopalan> maybe i compiled using gcc2
[06:49:42] <waddlesplash> that's the issue, probably
[06:49:46] <Rajagopalan> and running with gcc7
[06:50:10] <waddlesplash> WebKit can't compile without GCC7, so, that at least is built with it
[06:50:20] <waddlesplash> but maybe you compiled HaikuLauncher with GCC2?
[06:50:22] <waddlesplash> I don't know
[06:53:00] <Rajagopalan> hmm
[06:53:06] <Rajagopalan> i will remove webkitbuild dir
[06:53:11] <Rajagopalan> and perform clean build again
[06:53:24] <waddlesplash> do that from "setarch x86" this time
[06:53:29] <waddlesplash> so that "gcc" is GCC7
[06:53:34] <Rajagopalan> yeah got it
[06:53:36] <waddlesplash> and you don't accidentally mix up tools
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[06:53:48] <Rajagopalan> lemme try and get back to you waddlesplash
[06:53:53] <waddlesplash> OK
[06:54:06] <waddlesplash> well, it's late here, I'm headed to bed soon; so I probably won't be here when the build finishes :p
[06:55:32] <Rajagopalan> no problem
[06:55:34] <Rajagopalan> sleep well
[06:55:40] <Rajagopalan> will meet u tommorow
[06:55:52] <Rajagopalan> :)
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[07:16:31] <extrowerk> moin
[07:17:38] <johnny_b> morning
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[08:10:38] <Rajagopalan> waddlesplash it does work now
[08:10:53] <Rajagopalan> got a brief understanding about architectures in haiku too
[08:11:00] <Rajagopalan> thank you so much:)
[08:11:26] <Rajagopalan> probably the readme should specify about the switching architectures before performing a build
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[09:01:59] <Begasus> g'morning peeps
[09:03:17] <Rajagopalan> morning begasus
[09:04:12] <Begasus> g'morning Rajagopalan, so you figures out setarch :)
[09:04:20] <Begasus> figured*
[09:04:25] <Rajagopalan> yep!!
[09:04:27] <Rajagopalan> finally
[09:04:29] <Rajagopalan> haha
[09:04:50] <Begasus> it's a neat trick :)
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[09:26:48] <humdinger> morning all
[09:27:31] <Begasus> moin humdinger !
[09:29:40] <Begasus> extrowerk, openal_x86 builds ok :)
[09:29:49] <extrowerk> thanks
[09:31:48] <Begasus> ;)
[09:32:07] <extrowerk> trried to upstream the patches, but they rewrote the whole stuff in cpp and our patches for the older, c version :(
[09:32:11] <extrowerk> eh
[09:33:27] <Begasus> time for some new patches then :)
[09:35:09] <extrowerk> it seems it is way beyond my skills :(
[09:35:18] <Begasus> :(
[09:35:20] <extrowerk> the code not even similar.
[09:35:35] <extrowerk> but do not fear, they don't have any release with the cpp version yet.
[09:35:46] <extrowerk> so we are ok for now with the latest version.
[09:36:00] <extrowerk> they working on the rewrite since oct
[09:36:15] <extrowerk> the haiku support is removed, btw
[09:36:29] <Begasus> it could use some looking into before a next release then (with someone knowlidge in cpp)
[09:36:58] <extrowerk> i create an issue at HP, so at least we won't forget about it, and maybe somebody will do the re-port
[09:38:54] <Begasus> +1
[09:39:36] <Begasus> let's see if algo168g is building ok
[09:43:03] <extrowerk> thanks for your help :)
[09:43:10] <extrowerk> issue created
[09:43:35] <extrowerk> algol uses postgresql from now, that can create problems.
[09:43:57] <Begasus> mearly checking the build :)
[09:43:59] <extrowerk> we have more, incompatible versions already. I built it with 11.x.
[09:44:22] <Begasus> so far the configure checkes passed
[09:44:36] <extrowerk> i sent my patches to the algol author, hope he will upstream it.
[09:44:46] <extrowerk> it checks for a billion things.
[09:45:11] <Begasus> building here with postgresql11 also
[09:46:09] <Begasus> lol, the build was faster then the configure scripts :)
[09:46:16] <Begasus> ok for _x86 :)
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[09:50:33] <extrowerk> i invented a new git command! "git pushll" It pushes your changes and pulls the changes from remote in the same time!
[09:51:01] <extrowerk> innovation!
[09:51:20] <Begasus> ?
[09:51:28] <Begasus> does it actually work? :)
[09:52:02] <extrowerk> nope, i just forgot what i wanted.
[09:52:08] <extrowerk> so i mistyped it
[09:54:49] <extrowerk> Begasus: yeah, algol is pretty compact, it using gsl extensively, thus the plenty checks
[10:01:21] <Begasus> strange they forgot the test-set :P
[10:08:23] <extrowerk> i wanted to ask him about the tests, but forgot :S
[10:08:47] <extrowerk> time to checkfs /Brain
[10:09:13] <extrowerk> 348340 blocks could be freed
[10:09:14] <extrowerk> oh
[10:11:33] <extrowerk> Begasus: have you ever fsck'd your haikuports repo?
[10:13:02] <Begasus> yep :)
[10:13:32] <extrowerk> i meant "git fsck --full"
[10:13:49] <Begasus> hence I useally keep a wip recipe in a seperate place
[10:13:57] <Begasus> ah no :)
[10:14:29] <Begasus> only used checkfs so far to reclaim
[10:14:55] <extrowerk> it checks al lthe commits and files, and if there some unconnected one (missing parents, i suppose) it wil lautomatically back them up
[10:15:28] <extrowerk> doing it on the haiku souce tree right now
[10:15:39] <Begasus> I use a seperate clone for my fork, no work in there
[10:15:50] <Begasus> only pull and push
[10:16:05] <extrowerk> rebase?
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[10:16:24] <Begasus> not used a lot (and not so familiar with it also)
[10:16:54] <Begasus> I've set upstream to haikuports and origin to my fork
[10:17:11] <Begasus> so if I need to update master I just pull upstream
[10:17:25] <Begasus> and push to origin
[10:18:11] <extrowerk> i also used it so, but since i made some unwanted changes upstream, i fixed my remotes.
[10:18:55] <extrowerk> it looks like this now: http://0x0.st/sR8q.txt
[10:19:11] <extrowerk> so my own is miqlas
[10:19:33] <Begasus> guessed that :)
[10:19:34] <extrowerk> i also have origin, but only the fetch is the real one, the push is mine
[10:19:57] <extrowerk> so i won't make disaster if i mistype the target or if i forget to add "miqlas"
[10:20:06] <extrowerk> it will always pushed into mine
[10:20:35] <extrowerk> but if i have to change something directly in the main (small fixes, etc) i can still use the "iamsure"
[10:21:28] <extrowerk> and all the repo added with git@ so i can push even in the pub too
[10:21:34] <extrowerk> (firewall)
[10:21:40] <Begasus> I wouldhave to state "push upstream" to push something to haikuports, but not using that, if I just run git push it's not working so I have to use git push origin (and then file a PR)
[10:22:42] <Begasus> heading out for a bit, cu later
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[10:42:51] <extrowerk> Begasus: i found the algol test-sets
[10:43:05] <extrowerk> but do not start the party yet
[10:43:44] <extrowerk> it is a really big textfile, with al lthe tests, but the src expects them splitted, so it is still not useful
[10:43:50] <extrowerk> no idea how to chop it
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[12:04:47] <Begasus> re
[12:05:35] <Begasus> extrowerk, also got some links about a fairly later test for algol, but didn't reach the point of looking for a source for it :)
[12:13:45] <Begasus> found it :0
[12:14:44] <extrowerk> gimme
[12:15:51] <Begasus> I thought you had it?
[12:16:09] <Begasus> the later should be large
[12:16:38] <extrowerk> i have only this allinone thing
[12:17:04] <Begasus> probably the same
[12:18:12] <extrowerk> www.dickgrune.com/CS/Algol68 ?
[12:18:21] <Begasus> https://dickgrune.com/CS/Algol68/
[12:18:25] <Begasus> yep :)
[12:18:44] <extrowerk> then it is the same
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[13:03:28] <leorize> extrowerk: git remote manpage requires that fetch and push url must refer to the same place :P
[13:03:54] <extrowerk> it is the same server :)
[13:03:56] <Begasus> guess he found a workaround leorize :)
[13:04:33] <leorize> well, it doesn't say what would happen if that's not the case :P
[13:04:57] <leorize> I used to use it like that, but it confuse my git module for the shell so...
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[13:10:18] <Begasus> cleaning some of my branches ...
[13:11:25] <Begasus> I guess mandb can be deleted too (been superseded) :)
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[13:17:08] <leorize> Begasus: actually I might revive it one day :P
[13:17:28] <leorize> mandoc is not really adapted to save it's database elsewhere
[13:17:49] <Begasus> the work I did for it is still around, so you could have a start there :)
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[14:23:08] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://git.io/fhquQ
[14:23:10] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk a6511a2 - Boost: add recipe for version 1.69.0 (#3523)
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[14:43:58] <Begasus> why don't people just use some configure script instead of makefiles (postfix still failing to install)
[14:46:25] <kallisti5> i'm a fan of SCons
[14:46:46] <kallisti5> (even with my python hate, python is better than make syntax :-)
[14:47:20] <Coolgeek> compil.sh :3
[14:47:24] <Begasus> I can understand makefiles pretty good usually, but in this case it gives me a headache :)
[14:48:48] <kallisti5> makefiles work 100% for "take these 3 sources and make a binary"
[14:48:59] <kallisti5> anything beyond that gets to be a pain in the ass
[14:49:14] <Begasus> right
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[15:23:34] <korli> Begasus
[15:24:25] <korli> the icecast PR https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/3479, every arch is disabled for some reason
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[15:26:02] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-1/±0] https://git.io/fhq2S
[15:26:03] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk 001b355 - Armadillo: bump (#3516)
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[15:27:04] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/fhq25
[15:27:05] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk 2210a86 - BLIS: version bump (#3517)
[15:27:49] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/fhq2b
[15:27:50] <Not-8d6a> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk cd6bb2b - Alembic: version bump (#3521)
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[15:30:29] <Begasus> get in line, no pushing ;)
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[15:46:26] <Begasus> can you pass "-y" to make (install)?
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[15:54:46] <leorize> kallisti5: use meson :P
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[16:01:03] <tia> hello ...
[16:01:50] <tia> i don't know : mac mini or tower with haiku ?
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[16:10:11] <Begas_BM> meta_directory: [/packages/postfix_x86-3.2.4-1/.self/settings/etc]
[16:10:12] <Begas_BM> Error: you have no permission to change file ownership.
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[16:10:56] <Begasus> still bumping into this one, I added "mkdir -p $settingsDir/etc" for it but it still complains ...
[16:12:05] <matthewstar> does anybody have seen biffuz?
[16:13:24] <Begasus> nope
[16:16:25] <matthewstar> @begeistert me and biffuz coded a screensaver ...
[16:18:27] <matthewstar> in the wake + color piker ...
[16:18:43] <matthewstar> biffuz has it ...
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[16:19:54] <Begasus> checked haikuports?
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[16:21:50] <extrowerk> Begasus: are you sure the /etc folder PM managed?
[16:22:28] <Begasus> no extrowerk I know it links to $settingsDir/etc
[16:22:45] <extrowerk> just because it isn't managed here, afaik
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[16:31:37] <Begasus> moving them to $settingsDir/postfix
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[16:37:34] <matthewstar> please, please :
[16:37:54] <matthewstar> do not make idea war ...
[16:38:48] <matthewstar> i say : the best config 4 all
[16:40:15] <matthewstar> and you?
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[16:48:23] <Begasus> sometimes I just wonder :)
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[17:07:24] <Begas_BM> ~> sendmail-x86
[17:07:24] <Begas_BM> sendmail-x86: fatal: bad string length 0 < 1: setgid_group =
[17:07:47] <Begasus> ok, not working :) but atleast I got something :)
[17:07:54] <Begasus> heading out, cu later
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[17:23:20] <mmu_man> https://rsms.me/inter/
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[18:33:30] <leorize> github's PR and issues system are down atm :(
[18:36:06] <PulkoMandy> time to contribute to Haiku core code :>
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[18:47:20] <waddlesplash> :D
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[18:54:19] <Pentode> man linux is full of dicks
[18:54:26] <Pentode> +##
[18:55:26] <waddlesplash> mind your language please
[18:55:41] <PulkoMandy> don't be like them ;)
[18:56:13] <Pentode> sorry
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[18:58:03] <Pentode> i just struggle to understand what happens to good people when they accumulate enough knowledge that they feel somewhat superior, and always have the need to incessantly put other users in the channel down in a disdainful, arrogant way..
[18:58:27] <Pentode> honestly, even when a so called "idiot" does show up -- I'm still able to be respectful.
[18:59:46] <waddlesplash> it's part of the culture at this point
[19:00:16] <waddlesplash> having a superiority complex, that is
[19:00:32] * Pentode shrugs
[19:00:33] <Pentode> oh well
[19:00:40] <waddlesplash> so even someone who doesn't have it and spends all their time around linuxers will wind up picking it up
[19:01:13] <Pentode> yeah thats the part that is bothersome
[19:02:11] <Pentode> I've been hanging around here and mostly other networks since I started using Linux back in the 90s.
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[19:02:46] <Pentode> you see some people change -- people that would otherwise never act that way.
[19:02:49] <Pentode> especially in person
[19:03:14] <Pentode> i guess your right. and combined with the faceless aspect of IRC it's all that much easier to act a certain way.
[19:03:44] <extrowerk> oh hi
[19:03:49] <extrowerk> :)
[19:04:12] <Pentode> howdy
[19:05:24] <extrowerk> last day at home, the vacation is over.
[19:05:38] <Pentode> aw
[19:05:47] <Pentode> all good things must end ;)
[19:06:04] <Pentode> and bad things, too. thankfully.. ;p
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[19:34:18] <humdinger> Good evening everyone.
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[19:36:58] <humdinger> Anyone feels like adding another language to my new tiny app "OpenOriginPackage"?
[19:36:58] <humdinger> Project at https://github.com/humdingerb/OpenOriginPackage ** Translation at https://i18n.kacperkasper.pl
[19:37:48] <extrowerk> humdinger: i made a ticket for this at dev.haiku-os.org
[19:37:57] <extrowerk> we can cole that now i think
[19:38:12] <humdinger> cool!
[19:38:57] <extrowerk> humdinger: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13545
[19:40:20] <humdinger> extrowerk: I'll wait until I have the package in the HaikuDepot.
[19:41:35] <extrowerk> cole -7 close
[19:41:38] <extrowerk> eh
[19:41:41] <extrowerk> 7==
[19:42:02] <humdinger> too many end-of-vacation-beers? :)
[19:42:18] <extrowerk> no, just eating
[19:42:26] <humdinger> butter fingers
[19:51:09] <extrowerk> humdinger: übersaetzung fertig.
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[19:51:19] <humdinger> thanks!
[19:51:49] <humdinger> I'll wait a few more days to see if more trickle in until I push the recipe.
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[20:36:22] <extrowerk> should we have this? http://0x0.st/sRNE.png
[20:37:18] <humdinger> yes, please!
[20:38:18] <extrowerk> it seems it works better with dhash: http://0x0.st/sRNI.png
[20:38:29] <romanix> I'm trying to get wifi to work on my netbook. I have a built in Broadcom BCM4313 module and also an RTL8188 dongle. Can't get any of them to work :/ I've run install-wifi-firmwares.sh on Beta/nightly.
[20:39:10] <romanix> I believe FreeBSD has drivers for RTL8188
[20:39:34] <extrowerk> usb donges doesn't working currently
[20:40:11] <romanix> I see
[20:41:30] <extrowerk> 4313 should work, at least the bwi driver list it
[20:41:53] <extrowerk> { PCI_VENDOR_BROADCOM, 0x4313,"Broadcom BCM4312 802.11a Wireless Lan" },
[20:42:02] <extrowerk> ah, that's 4312
[20:42:06] <extrowerk> then nope
[20:42:13] <romanix> extrowerk, yep - different beast
[20:42:35] <extrowerk> romanix: then just swap it :)
[20:43:15] <extrowerk> intel 7260 works ok, and it is available in minipci and ngff (m.2) form too
[20:44:38] <extrowerk> i have a m.2 wlan card somewhere if you need
[20:44:47] <romanix> thanks for the suggestions. Do you know why usb dongles don't work? is this a limitation of the bsd compat. layer?
[20:45:36] <PulkoMandy> yes
[20:45:48] <PulkoMandy> we didn't port or wrap FreeBSD usb stack
[20:46:47] <extrowerk> intel 6235 works also well
[20:46:59] <extrowerk> also available in m2 form factor
[20:49:22] <waddlesplash> I started working on USB compat support and never went back to it
[20:49:32] <waddlesplash> only 13 functions to implement actually
[20:49:46] <waddlesplash> and I already wired up all the structs that the driver wanted
[20:50:06] <waddlesplash> but right now I'm pretty tied up in porting iflib
[20:50:18] <waddlesplash> once I finish that I guess I can take a look at USB again
[20:52:42] <romanix> waddlesplash, is there a WIP version online somewhere to look at? just out of curiosity
[20:53:04] <waddlesplash> romanix: if you know anything about driver porting you can attempt to port bwi driver for your BCM device
[20:53:57] <waddlesplash> there is a branch for USB on my GitHub but it's all stubs and doesn't do anything
[20:54:29] <romanix> waddlesplash, I don't know anything about drivers but perhaps I should learn? :)
[20:54:31] <extrowerk> uh-oh: /boot/system/develop/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-haiku/7.3.0/../../../../x86_64-unknown-haiku/bin/ld: mainwindow.o: no group info for section '.data.DW.ref.__gxx_personality_v0'
[20:54:45] <extrowerk> something went wrong.
[20:55:03] <waddlesplash> romanix: do you know anything about C programming? :p
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[20:56:23] <extrowerk> i think something strange happening.
[20:56:42] <extrowerk> i was able to build this source code some minutes ago, now it doesn't working anymore.
[20:56:54] <extrowerk> i even re-extracted the original zip, still fails.
[20:57:08] <extrowerk> i think something wrong happend.
[20:57:47] <romanix> waddlesplash, a little bit :) I'm a recovering web dev and working close to the metal seems interesting
[21:02:52] <extrowerk> oh no
[21:02:53] <extrowerk> 80a054e10b78c4b5cff9a1e95b77914e4656cf (inode = 5252516), could not be opened
[21:02:57] <extrowerk> and plenty others
[21:03:44] <extrowerk> well, i think that was all
[21:04:01] <extrowerk> i am almost sure it is cathastrophic data-loss then
[21:04:13] <extrowerk> let's see what happens if i reboot
[21:05:24] <extrowerk> running
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[21:06:02] <extrowerk> at least the base system looks ok.
[21:06:21] <extrowerk> btw does the package loader checking for checksums or hashes?
[21:06:32] <extrowerk> i mean the package_daemon
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[21:37:50] <extrowerk> it must have been a coronal mass ejection
[21:37:54] <extrowerk> or aliens
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[21:57:21] <kallisti5> extrowerk: checkfs /boot :-)
[21:57:27] <kallisti5> and cross fingers
[21:57:30] <kallisti5> and have backups
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[22:16:58] <humdinger> Once more before I power down...
[22:17:04] <humdinger> Anyone feels like adding another language to my new tiny app "OpenOriginPackage"?
[22:17:04] <humdinger> Project at https://github.com/humdingerb/OpenOriginPackage ** Translation at https://i18n.kacperkasper.pl
[22:17:28] * humdinger waves
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[22:17:35] <waddlesplash> hey q5sys
[22:17:43] <q5sys> waddlesplash: hey
[22:17:45] <q5sys> sorry for the mixup
[22:17:48] <waddlesplash> np, lol
[22:18:14] <q5sys> FYI... I live in Maryland. :P
[22:18:29] <waddlesplash> I think I knew that?
[22:18:33] <waddlesplash> can't recall exactly
[22:18:43] <q5sys> probably when we talked last... which is probably about a year ago at this point.
[22:18:57] <q5sys> the last year or so has been kinda insane for me, so my time online to chat has definitely dwindled.
[22:19:10] <waddlesplash> over a year, was mid 2017 I think
[22:19:25] <q5sys> sounds about right
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