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[02:01:50] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3960 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw]  Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/3960  blamelist: John Scipione <jscipione at gmail dot com>
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[02:50:03] <King_Warg> \o/
[02:54:11] <Skipp_OSX> ??
[02:58:46] <geist> o/
[02:58:49] <King_Warg> my AIM server emulator is finally stable
[02:59:23] * King_Warg wonders if BeAIM would connect and work
[03:00:05] <krbtgt|> oh neat
[03:00:08] * krbtgt| intrigued
[03:00:43] <King_Warg> or if BeAIM will even run in haiku now
[03:07:23] <King_Warg> screw AOL's december 15 termination regardless ;3
[03:10:18] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1222 of haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/1222
[03:10:46] <krbtgt|> tell me more about this server emulator
[03:12:14] <King_Warg> uh well.. its a server... that works with AOL Instant Messenger and other 3rd party OSCAR capable clients..?
[03:12:34] <krbtgt|> yes i am very interested in this
[03:13:05] <King_Warg> because aint nobody gonna tell me when to stop using what works 3_3
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[03:14:09] <King_Warg> fortunately somebody already did the hard work and documented the OSCAR protocol
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[03:28:53] <King_Warg> if only i had a nice big fat pipe internet connection and a good server with lots and lots of cores i'd just start a server on it and let everybody everywhere in on it
[03:31:23] <krbtgt|> VPSes arent much
[03:31:30] <krbtgt|> and OSCAR is a very slim protocol
[03:31:37] <krbtgt|> it was made for old-ass dialup after all
[03:31:39] <King_Warg> indeed.
[03:31:57] <King_Warg> its greased lightning comprared to MSN
[03:32:03] <krbtgt|> heh
[03:32:09] <krbtgt|> Escargot is neat, if youve seen that
[03:32:15] <krbtgt|> an MSN server emulation
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[03:32:31] <King_Warg> i remember how dreadfully long it took MSN to login
[03:32:33] <krbtgt|> though they want SNI, so no fun using it on old machines
[03:32:50] <krbtgt|> also dont go on their forum unless you want to drop a few IQ points
[03:33:00] <krbtgt|> poor devs having to herd immature kids
[03:33:02] <King_Warg> then saw it did everything with XML
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[03:34:32] <King_Warg> unfortunately still limited to AIM clients prior to 6..  or the third party ones like pidgin and miranda
[03:34:41] <King_Warg> gotta figure out the whole SSL thing
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[03:50:46] * IIsi50MHz {s buddyin}
[03:51:26] <IIsi50MHz> Sound cool, King_Warg.
[03:53:21] <krbtgt|> should put up the sauce somewhere
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[04:32:38] <King_Warg> lol
[04:34:25] <King_Warg> http://iwarg.ddns.net/aim
[04:35:12] <krbtgt|> cool
[04:38:31] <krbtgt|> King_Warg: cool, signed up
[04:41:31] <krbtgt|> King_Warg: i'll sign up for a newsletter or shit about this
[04:42:14] <King_Warg> page isnt much more than a hastily made thing for making usernames currently
[04:42:31] <krbtgt|> this is cool and i want more people to know about this
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[04:42:44] <krbtgt|> King_Warg: let me add you on this, let me see if it works
[04:42:49] <krbtgt|> i'm using pidgin atm
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[04:43:03] <krbtgt|> ofc i can switch to like, AIM 3 or whatever if I dig up clients
[04:46:42] <King_Warg> i should dig up a beos vm just to see if BeAIM will actually connect..
[04:46:53] <krbtgt|> iit doesnt work on haiku?
[04:47:04] <krbtgt|> IIRC R5 binary compat was Good Enough for 99% of crap
[04:47:15] <krbtgt|> maybe BeAIM was that 1% of crap
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[04:47:37] <King_Warg> i just tried on a nightly vm and it was sad.. but that was the BONE compiled version..
[04:48:31] <King_Warg> i was messing with BeAIM in source some time ago.. i dont remember what i accomplished.. c++ isnt something i enjoy messing with
[04:48:36] <krbtgt|> me neither
[04:48:40] <krbtgt|> fwiw, R5 is surprisingly finicky to get working in VMware
[04:49:00] <King_Warg> thats why i have lots and lots of old hardware
[04:49:03] <krbtgt|> mainly because 1. BeOS uses two data tracks and this confuses the shit out of every hypervisor
[04:49:12] <krbtgt|> 2. VESA video is pokey if you can get it working
[04:49:27] <krbtgt|> 3. IIRC, they didn't have a PCNet driver... seriously?
[04:49:39] <krbtgt|> i have phys HW, incl a dual P2 box
[04:49:57] <King_Warg> a dual socket 5 pentium micronics board is just the thing
[04:50:15] <King_Warg> i got it for $1
[04:50:22] <krbtgt|> damn
[04:50:31] <krbtgt|> hot shit for R5
[04:50:33] <King_Warg> gotta love the dayton hamvention..
[04:51:04] <King_Warg> get things like that for $1 because the guy has no idea..
[04:51:16] <krbtgt|> i dont care for ham radio but i gotta get into their sales
[04:51:22] <krbtgt|> lots of cool shit there
[04:51:41] <King_Warg> a guy gave me a huge box of random ISA cards for $11 or something like that
[04:51:47] <krbtgt|> damn
[04:51:51] <King_Warg> it must have been over 20 pounds
[04:52:05] <King_Warg> it was full of interesting things
[04:52:43] <King_Warg> like 8-bit pc-xt compatible SCSI controllers , a bunch of WANG Computer cards..
[04:52:50] <krbtgt|> nice
[04:52:54] <geist> WANG
[04:53:06] <King_Warg> good old wang computer co. 3_3
[04:53:31] <geist> they ahd some strange designs, sound kind of interesting
[04:53:37] <King_Warg> got an entire stack of G4 imacs for $50
[04:53:41] <geist> they had some sort of microcoded basic thing for a while
[04:54:24] <King_Warg> my last great haul was this mac pro for $100
[04:54:49] <King_Warg> which had 32GB of ram in it..
[04:54:57] <krbtgt|> nice
[04:55:14] <krbtgt|> what's your username on your aim server?
[04:56:24] <King_Warg> i have 3 accounts for testing the server
[04:56:47] <krbtgt|> try adding me: calvin
[04:58:47] <King_Warg> i got a nice cheap set of 3GHZ quad core xeons and a geforce GTX 970 and now that $100 mac pro is playing rise of the tomb raider at max settings
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[04:59:42] <krbtgt|> i use a decade old core 2 duo for gaming
[04:59:46] <krbtgt|> with a 750 Ti, ofc
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[04:59:53] <krbtgt|> and 8 GB RAM
[05:00:03] <krbtgt|> it struggles but it plays new games at playable settings
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[05:13:22] <King_Warg> this mac pro is 11 years old
[05:13:42] <King_Warg> it demolishes the newest 3dmark
[05:21:54] <Skipp_OSX> King_Warg, I know it is great :)
[05:22:19] <Skipp_OSX> King_Warg, I got a AMD RX 580 in my cheese grater
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[05:29:50] <King_Warg> :o
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[08:28:15] <JHerig> Heyo all. Any advice on w
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[08:29:03] <JHerig> *smacks keyboard* Try t
[08:29:29] <icee> totally, when you have trouble with w, try t
[08:31:49] <JHerig> Try that again… Any advice on what version to install on Parallels/VMWare? 51484 doesn’t boot for me on eit
[08:32:18] <JHerig> either 64 or 32 bit mode
[08:32:28] <icee> 0u812
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[08:33:41] <JHerig> sorry injured hand makes for clumsy typing
[08:33:51] <icee> i'm sorry for trolling
[08:33:54] <icee> but all of the rest of irc is dead
[08:34:02] <icee> there is literally no one else to troll right now.
[08:34:12] <JHerig> no worries
[08:40:13] <humdinger> JHerig: most people run in VirtualBox, if that is an option for you.
[08:40:15] <humdinger> see https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/virtualizing
[08:43:14] <JHerig> I’m a big fan of Parallels, but I’ll give t
[08:43:36] <JHerig> that a try. Thanks
[08:44:05] <humdinger> maybe you find an answer in the forums... see https://discuss.haiku-os.org/search?q=parallels
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[08:51:11] <JHerig> the alpha4 runs fine. just having a problem with the newer builds
[08:53:29] <swift110> hey all
[08:54:33] <miqlas> hi
[08:55:39] <humdinger> hello
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[09:22:56] <swift110> how are you miqlas and humdinger
[09:23:20] <humdinger> quite alright
[09:23:27] <humdinger> how's your back doing, miqlas?
[09:23:52] <swift110> good to hear humdinger
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[09:55:33] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3880 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw]  Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3880  blamelist: Humdinger <humdingerb at gmail dot com>
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[10:29:19] <Not-fe47> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/b7c81633bec5...21dff7de36a7
[10:29:21] <Not-fe47> [haiku/website] mmuman 21dff7d - Add a Packages activity tab
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[11:07:13] <miqlas> humdinger, still hurts.
[11:07:21] <miqlas> hi swift110 .
[11:07:43] <miqlas> Except my back i'm fine. Just hacking blender and tensorflow.
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[11:21:34] <Not-fe47> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1379f0deb359...f1004811d017
[11:21:36] <Not-fe47> [haikuports/haikuports] miqlas f100481 - Bullet : bump version (#1727)
[11:22:09] <Not-fe47> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f1004811d017...654004adcc39
[11:22:11] <Not-fe47> [haikuports/haikuports] miqlas 654004a - Armadillo: bump version (#1726)
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[12:38:59] <Not-fe47> [haikuports] miqlas created branch qwinff - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports
[12:39:01] <Not-fe47> [haikuports/haikuports] miqlas pushed 2 commits to qwinff [+2/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8a56df3fc964^...3e5b0ad26cb7
[12:39:02] <Not-fe47> [haikuports/haikuports] miqlas 8a56df3 - QWinFF: new recipe
[12:39:04] <Not-fe47> [haikuports/haikuports] miqlas 3e5b0ad - Recipe fix
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[12:47:10] <eike_> hi! ihave a window with a layout (fLayout). Now want to add a BView derived class (myView) to the layout. Do I use (1) fLayout->AddView(1, myView) or (2) fMyView = new MyView("test", flags, fLayout)?
[12:48:57] <eike_> or both?
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[13:08:09] <miqlas> eike_: it seems everybody is way currently. You should try the haiku mailing list. Be careful, haiku-devel is for haiku core dev.
[13:08:53] <eike_> thanks :-)
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[13:14:48] <brunospr> ah hello all
[13:14:58] <brunospr> at least Vision is working again...
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