February 27, 2017 
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February 27, 2017 [00:07:34] *** postmen <postmen!~tonio@p5B151E7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:11:23] *** cosmodanger <cosmodanger!~kody@173-171-163-119.res.bhn.net> has joined #haiku[00:13:19] <cosmodanger> so that install didn't go as intended :D[00:20:14] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-126-120-228.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[00:20:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[00:21:29] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-237-063.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[00:24:10] *** [r4] <[r4]!~r4]@staticline-31-182-192-46.toya.net.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:27:19] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:28:39] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[00:30:00] <circ-userss> Ok, as typical spammer im leaving You remembering one of the best that came out 1998, beside "BeOS for intel x86 deubt", Madonna - Ray Of Light (playlist) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODYMBFKYpFI&index=3&list=PLpsBbCsI57ODvFSXR0F91At4oSjHWn3um this was almost 20 years ago but it's still not obolete... "should i wait for you, my substitute for Be[00:30:01] <circ-userss> OS, my substitute for BeOS?" "Frozen, when you source is not open" "Haiku, faster that speed of light it's flying, try to remember, where it all began.."[00:30:22] <circ-userss> :P[00:30:32] <circ-userss> stupid me :)[00:30:35] *** circ-userss <circ-userss!~IceChat9@ip-62-235-49-9.dsl.scarlet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Easy as 3.14159265358979323846...)[00:31:27] *** cosmodanger <cosmodanger!~kody@173-171-163-119.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:37:59] *** eightbitz <eightbitz!~vision@65.48.36.58> has joined #haiku[00:38:39] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-126-120-228.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[00:38:46] *** eightbitz <eightbitz!~vision@65.48.36.58> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:40:12] <krbtgt|_> i mean, I still associate XP with "Like Humans Do"[00:48:23] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-126-120-228.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[00:48:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[00:50:20] *** Skipp_OSX 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<Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-8-225.moscow.rt.ru> has joined #haiku[04:48:11] *** ohnx| is now known as DevTwo-ohnx[04:55:09] *** DevTwo-ohnx is now known as ohnx|[05:07:52] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-126-120-228.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[05:07:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[05:22:51] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-126-120-228.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[05:32:19] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-126-120-228.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[05:32:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[05:47:27] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-126-120-228.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[06:00:33] *** valerius <valerius!~valerius@2a01:4f8:d16:2052::2> has joined #haiku[06:09:42] <mounty> Is this the best channel to ask about configuring a Haiku build image? I want to build an image such that email, ssh etc. work immediately and don't require setting-up within Haiku.[06:11:18] <mattlacey> it is[06:11:26] <mattlacey> afraid I can't help but someone else might be able to ![06:22:41] <mounty> OK, starter for ten: when you first run ssh user@machine it asks you to confirm that you really do want to connect, but it does not do so subsequently.[06:23:41] <mounty> Now on GNU/Linux it does that by adding a line to $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts. It seems that the mechanism on Haiku is different. Is it possible to create the equivalent of known_hosts on Haiku?[06:24:18] <mounty> Supplementary: create the keyring file .ssh/authorized_keys[06:24:52] <Diver> it's probably in /boot/home/config/settings[06:25:44] <mounty> OK Diver; thanks; I'll check next time I boot.[06:26:10] <Diver> and /system/settings/ssh[06:26:14] <mounty> Third: a menu entry, preferably on the applications menu, that runs a terminal with an ssh command of my choosing.[06:26:45] <mounty> All this is so that I can better integrate Haiku into my normal work-flow and compensate for the lack of most of my userland on it.[06:28:08] <Diver> you can copy your settings to an image using https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building/userbuildconfig[06:31:08] <mounty> Diver: yes, I'm asking for help with those commands. I already have some simple stuff like setting myself (mounty) as a user, and installing my preferred keymap.[06:31:19] <mounty> Oh and adding some packages that I need.[06:32:49] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[06:39:19] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:58:57] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[06:59:02] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has joined #haiku[06:59:02] *** HaikuUser is now known as Dane__[07:08:09] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has joined #haiku[07:10:53] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:13:25] <mounty> Has anyone ever installed Python package PyQt4 on Haiku?[07:23:57] <korli> mounty: nope, only PyQt5[07:25:23] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[07:26:45] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[07:27:34] <mounty> :-([07:38:24] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cjpgxharwjulzvvn> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[07:45:19] <korli> mounty: why would you need PyQt4?[07:47:49] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[08:07:12] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:09:44] <Not-4a11> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e9baf500b798...f0b5b924dc97[08:09:45] <Not-4a11> [haikuports/haikuports] moochris f0b5b92 - Chocolate doom: specify all bins and correct REQUIRES (#1191)[08:16:19] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85b22c.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:16:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:18:29] <humdinger> mounty: Answer to your 3rd question: "What is /boot/home/config/settings/deskbar/menu ?"[08:21:42] <korli> humdinger: hi[08:21:49] <humdinger> morning![08:22:07] <korli> any news about the next begeistert?[08:22:48] <humdinger> nope. the HSA doesn't organize it any more, would only support financially.[08:23:15] <humdinger> i.e. if the devs don't organize, there won't be any.[08:23:30] <humdinger> js once suggested to meet at Google's in Zurich.[08:23:50] <humdinger> and I think PulkoMandy showed some interest to hold it near him.[08:24:05] <humdinger> but it's quite a lot of work to organize from scratch.[08:24:27] <korli> a pity[08:24:31] <humdinger> Düsseldorf had the advantage of that we exactly knew how, where, when...[08:25:14] <humdinger> yes. but attendance kept dwindling and the costs of the location did increase significanly lately.[08:26:00] <humdinger> It came to the conclusion that in the current haiku stage, an even more dev centric event makes more sense[08:26:08] <korli> sure the costs vs attendance wasn't good[08:26:36] <humdinger> and in order to appeal to many devs, thoses devs have to agree on a specific date.[08:26:55] <humdinger> since Düsseldorf had to be booked a year in advance, that's just not possible.[08:27:43] <korli> it's always so when the location is top[08:28:27] <korli> Zürich isn't specifically "billig"[08:28:33] <humdinger> so, if half a dozen devs can find a date and location that everyone agrees on and find someone to organize... there'll be anaother "BeGeistert on the road"[08:28:38] <humdinger> exactly.[08:28:57] <humdinger> the lodging at the Jugendherberge was unmatches there...[08:29:11] <humdinger> and of course the Alt beer of Düsseldorf.[08:35:01] <korli> of course we could plan for 2018[08:36:17] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-etcbbmxsaacueamn> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:37:38] <humdinger> heh. nobody can say today if they have time 12+ months into the future...[08:37:49] <humdinger> on one specific weekend[08:38:44] <humdinger> I guess it'll make more sense for short code sprints when a handful of devs can fix a date and location.[08:39:32] <humdinger> unfortunately, the easy times where 3 or 4 guys could crash on the floor/couch at someones are over. :)[08:39:41] <humdinger> pampered dads... :)[08:46:28] *** [r4] <[r4]!~r4]@staticline-31-182-192-46.toya.net.pl> has joined #haiku[08:47:13] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[08:54:02] <mounty> korli: I was trying to run https://apps.ankiweb.net/ and when it starts it complains: PyQt4.QtCore not found.[08:54:23] <mounty> humdinger: thanks.[08:59:44] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@217.153.177.152> has joined #haiku[09:14:05] <mounty> So one can copy an entire file into a Haiku image, whilst building, but how does one APPEND to a file? In particular, /boot/system/settings/network/hosts ?[09:19:08] <FlyingJester> Do you need the defaults? I'm not sure what an OS's defaults host file woudl even contain...[09:21:18] <mounty> If you can warrant that removing the defaults won't cause any problems ...[09:21:31] <mounty> ... in which case one might ask why the hosts file is generated.[09:32:47] <FlyingJester> I would wonder what is in it.[09:33:25] <FlyingJester> If you have proper DNS available, host files are usually only useful for local networks anyway.[09:34:33] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[09:45:34] <mounty> Thanks for the suggestion FlyingJester but I think it would be a lot more straightforward just to append to hosts. Even if I have to write a one-off self-destruct script to do it.[09:50:55] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74D67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:50:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[10:07:44] *** Blub\0 <Blub\0!~wry@unaffiliated/blubw/x-6625061> has joined #haiku[10:32:28] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50981 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b0d251300c43+%5E598a62e2751b[10:32:29] <HAIKU-irker458> b0d251300c43: WonderBrush version of sticker[10:33:41] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.94.36> has joined #haiku[10:38:48] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85b22c.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[10:51:01] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@217.153.177.152> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:51:52] *** postmen <postmen!~tonio@p5B151E7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[10:53:26] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@217.153.177.152> has joined #haiku[11:15:25] *** cdesai_ is now known as cdesai[11:15:45] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:34:43] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[11:38:14] *** ekr <ekr!~ekr@188.24.108.146> has joined #haiku[11:53:51] <mounty> Where are the colour settings (Preferences/Appearance) saved?[12:03:13] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[12:09:22] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[12:20:54] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@37.160.27.23> has joined #haiku[12:20:55] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@37.160.27.23> has quit IRC (Changing host)[12:20:55] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[12:27:15] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[12:27:33] *** mattlacey 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not the same thing, I guess...[16:59:50] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85b22c.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:59:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:11:48] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[17:14:30] <postmen> _Dario_, probably not, i'd guess 2 ;)[17:14:47] <_Dario_> thanks postmen[17:15:08] <_Dario_> I just wanted to port an app that uses that header[17:15:32] *** vivu <vivu!~vivek@103.24.87.33> has joined #haiku[17:16:15] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has joined #haiku[17:19:04] *** JohnX <JohnX!john@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe50:3ac4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:20:10] *** vivu <vivu!~vivek@103.24.87.33> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:21:09] *** HAIKU-Buildbot <HAIKU-Buildbot!~HAIKU-Bui@baron.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (Quit: buildmaster reconfigured: bot disconnecting)[17:21:23] *** HAIKU-Buildbot <HAIKU-Buildbot!~HAIKU-Bui@baron.haiku-os.org> has joined 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(Changing host)[18:15:33] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[18:26:45] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74D67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[18:26:59] *** jua_ <jua_!~jua@xdsl-89-0-244-210.netcologne.de> has joined #haiku[18:26:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jua_[18:27:53] <tojoko> Hi miqlas-H64 , yes, i'm here. what is it?[18:31:00] <miqlas-H64> i'm on the hugs thing.[18:31:23] <miqlas-H64> it seems the latest version crashing while building the standard libraries.[18:31:36] <miqlas-H64> i have no idea, why, but it is crashing.[18:31:49] <miqlas-H64> so i do the recipe for 2001 right now.[18:32:06] <miqlas-H64> have you ever tested a version between 2001 and 2006?[18:32:48] <tojoko> year, I'm sorry i brought that one up - uhh, ok, that one worked for you!? since it doesn't anymore for me. Year, i think i've tested them all. But my abilities are very limited. I'd call myself smart, but almost have no experience porting applications.[18:33:25] <Barrett> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/6514892937887744/[18:33:53] <miqlas-H64> Barrett: can you tell us, what is it? have no bandwith for web[18:33:55] <tojoko> only thing i can remember i've replaced one of the configure files with an more up to date one from the haiku git.[18:34:05] <Barrett> miqlas-H64, haiku accepted in gsoc[18:34:11] <miqlas-H64> YEEY![18:34:24] <tojoko> congratulations!!! :)[18:34:25] <miqlas-H64> tojoko: configure.sub and configure.guess i think.[18:34:38] <miqlas-H64> You can solve it with : "libtoolize -vfi"[18:34:41] <Barrett> I wonder how many slots though[18:35:27] <tojoko> miqlas-H64, i guess it was configure.guess.[18:35:29] <miqlas-H64> Barrett: last time as i had a drink with the Google CEO, he told me they have a secret plan with Haiku, so i think Haiku will max it out.[18:35:39] <tojoko> wow[18:36:38] <Barrett> miqlas-H64, kidding or true? : p[18:37:20] <miqlas-H64> Barrett: i'm in the pub right now with the microsoft and facebook ceo.[18:37:24] <miqlas-H64> ofc, kidding[18:37:31] <Barrett> : p[18:37:58] <miqlas-H64> just send your CV to me, and i will pass it to the guys right next to me.[18:38:26] <Barrett> sure, tell them I can make really good pizza, true Italian one[18:38:37] <Barrett> and the position is mine : p[18:38:54] <miqlas-H64> FFFFFFFFUUUU... hugs creating a /share at install.... :( not so nice[18:39:33] <miqlas-H64> Barrett: sorry, but they told me they have Assesment Center. So please, do me a favor, and a piza with double pepperoni. Thanks :)[18:39:53] <miqlas-H64> I will test your experience, belive me.[18:41:08] <Barrett> sure :)[18:41:45] *** teenivs <teenivs!67157d4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.103.21.125.77> has joined #haiku[18:46:18] <teenivs> Hello I want to participate in GSOC 2017.Can anyone guide me in the right direction ?[18:50:15] <humdinger> teenivs: Cool. I'm looking for info atm...[18:50:21] <humdinger> this doesn't help much... : https://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas[18:50:55] <tsundoku> trivial cosmetic question: have any of the options that were configurable in the Menu preferences in R5 been implemented in Haiku?[18:51:04] <tsundoku> click to open, always show accelerators, etc.[18:51:41] <humdinger> tsundoku: not that I know of.[18:51:47] <tsundoku> ah okay[18:51:58] <tsundoku> didn't think so because the preference GUI isn't there[18:51:58] <_Dario_> humdinger, teenivs: here are some info too: https://www.haiku-os.org/community/gsoc/2017/students[18:52:00] <humdinger> I haven't missed those setting in the past dozen years...[18:52:17] <tsundoku> I'm one of those classic Mac diehards that likes to disable "click to open" when possible[18:52:27] <humdinger> It was probably decided those are unneeded options. I'd agree.[18:52:58] <miqlas-H64> tsundoku: what kind of configuration do you mean? "show replicants?" it is there.[18:53:07] <tsundoku> no[18:53:10] <humdinger> just wanted to paste: https://www.haiku-os.org/community/gsoc/2017/[18:53:14] <miqlas-H64> what is "accelerator"? shortcuts?[18:53:15] <tsundoku> these are the options that were in Menu preferences in R5[18:53:20] <tsundoku> not related to replicants[18:53:42] <miqlas-H64> click to open is already implemented, if it is, what i think you mean.[18:53:44] <tsundoku> it's where you get to set the appearance and behavior of menus[18:54:00] <tsundoku> miqlas-H64: click to open is the default but I'm interested in turning it off.[18:54:16] <miqlas-H64> tsundoku: it was looong time ago when i've seen BeOs , sorry.[18:54:19] <tsundoku> when I have some spare time I might just have to go write myself a patch or something[18:54:36] <miqlas-H64> tsundoki: feel free to implement it :D[18:54:53] <humdinger> I doubt it'll be added to the default image, but as an optional package in haikuDepot... why not.[18:54:53] <tsundoku> I haven't used R5 much lately but I booted a machine that has it installed this morning to fetch Swis721 BT to use as my system font in Haiku[18:55:07] <tsundoku> well I don't think it would be a package to install[18:55:20] <tsundoku> it would probably have to just be a private patch to the system that can be used when building one's own Haiku[18:55:22] <miqlas-H64> tsundoku: they maybe you was who asked for the standard BeOS font![18:55:31] <tsundoku> krbtgt| was talking about it earlier[18:55:36] <tsundoku> so I decided to try it myself[18:55:46] <miqlas-H64> I answered your question! And i had right, it was swiss721! Yee[18:55:53] <miqlas-H64> (I hope i tld that)[18:56:03] <tsundoku> I think I was the one who gave him the font name at the time[18:56:07] <tsundoku> but it could have come up again[18:56:32] <miqlas-H64> tsundoku: why can be it in mainline? Every new function welcomed.[18:56:49] <tsundoku> it depends on whether the core maintainers believe it is worth having Menu preferences back.[18:57:21] <miqlas-H64> tsundoku: nobody belives it, till they can't see it with their own eyes.[18:57:27] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vsdjuqxurtzdtcaq> has joined #haiku[18:57:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[18:57:30] <tsundoku> true[18:57:30] <humdinger> "Best defaults, options where absolutely necessary."[18:57:53] <tsundoku> R5 provided an absurd number of configurability options for what it was[18:57:57] <tsundoku> I appreciated it though[18:57:58] <miqlas-H64> tsundoku: and if you are in menus, then you can implement ZSnake too but make it optional.[18:58:22] <tsundoku> ZSnake? you mean the line tracing a path down submenus that was under consideration for future releases?[18:58:34] <humdinger> The sroll bar thingy in Appearance is hard on the line IMO.[18:58:43] <tsundoku> ?[18:58:48] <miqlas-H64> I thought just today at the train to home learning a new os is just learning the quirks.[18:59:03] <Barrett> https://github.com/Barrett17/UltraDV/issues/12[18:59:25] <miqlas-H64> Barrett: what is the UltraDV state today?[18:59:34] <tsundoku> speaking of scroll bars, I was a little bit surprised to find that the quad-arrows setting was not default[18:59:42] <vivu> _Dario_: I want to apply for GSoC as well. Is writing an application the first step?[19:00:00] <miqlas-H64> tsundokuyes, that thing from Dano[19:00:09] <Barrett> miqlas-H64, after crowdfunding I didn't commit much[19:00:30] <Barrett> there will be some news in 2 weeks from now or so[19:00:52] <miqlas-H64> tsundoku: But i don't want to force you, make it lov prio on your list, well below the 3D acceleration. Thanks.[19:01:25] <humdinger> vivu: Hello! Please see https://www.haiku-os.org/community/gsoc/2017/students[19:01:33] <miqlas-H64> vivu: i'm not a dev, but i hink the first step is installing Haiku[19:02:29] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has joined #haiku[19:02:35] <Barrett> miqlas-H64, humdinger I'm planning for an alpha2 however, feel free to suggest GUI improvements/redesign[19:02:53] <Barrett> that ticket was created on purpose[19:03:35] <_Dario_> vivu: no need to submit an app[19:03:50] <_Dario_> just some of the tasks named in the following link:[19:03:52] <_Dario_> https://www.haiku-os.org/community/gsoc/2017/students[19:04:07] <_Dario_> Applying students are required to submit a code contribution to our bugtracker. This could either be a task marked easy, TODO commented in code, Code style cleanup, or any other unlisted task[19:04:27] <jua_> By application I guess he didn't mean "computer program"... :-)[19:04:36] * tsundoku has BeBeep.wav back yaaay[19:04:57] <vivu> humdinger: _Dario_: I saw the link. So the first step is to contribute to your bugtracker, right?[19:04:59] <humdinger> tsundoku: was that the media server restart noise?[19:05:04] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:05:06] <tsundoku> it was the general alert sound[19:05:16] <humdinger> gave me a heart attack several times.[19:05:32] *** teenivs <teenivs!67157d4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.103.21.125.77> has left #haiku[19:05:33] <vivu> miqlas-H64: I already have Haiku running under qemu[19:05:57] <miqlas-H64> Cheater![19:06:06] <humdinger> vivu: yes. "Applying students are required to submit a code contribution to our bugtracker."[19:06:09] <vivu> _Dario_: OK, Thank You[19:06:25] <vivu> humdinger: Thank You[19:06:27] <humdinger> to see you have everything set up and are able to find/follow wiki/guides. :)[19:06:40] <_Dario_> your welcome, vivu :-)[19:07:48] <Barrett> easy ticket: https://github.com/Barrett17/UltraDV/issues/10[19:08:31] <miqlas-H64> tojoko: my recipe just downloaded the sources. 1 step is already completed :)[19:08:50] *** pdziepak <pdziepak!~pdziepak@88.98.221.225> has joined #haiku[19:08:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o pdziepak[19:09:03] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:09:06] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has joined #haiku[19:11:13] *** humdinger_ <humdinger_!~humdinger@x5d85b22c.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[19:11:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger_[19:11:13] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85b22c.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:11:47] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@209.181.88.61> has joined #haiku[19:11:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[19:12:07] *** miqlas-H64 is now known as miqlas-PUB[19:12:20] <miqlas-PUB> just to make sure....[19:12:38] <jua_> Are you sitting in a pub now?[19:12:54] <miqlas-PUB> as always. you know..[19:12:59] <jua_> hehe[19:13:03] <miqlas-PUB> hefeweizen, jegermeister, and stuff[19:16:16] <miqlas-PUB> i have an important project right now, i wanted to work on it at weekend, but friday night i got a call from our customer, and he explained we are using too new software version, they just cannot open our data. So i was fcked. No older version installed on my work-laptop. I went in the office today early morning, talked with the IT, they started to install the old version on all the workstations, as i got a call from our customer, the[19:16:16] <miqlas-PUB> version is okay, they will update their software.[19:16:21] <miqlas-PUB> SHIET![19:16:39] <jua_> joy[19:16:56] <miqlas-PUB> enoy.[19:16:58] <miqlas-PUB> enjoy[19:22:42] <tojoko> miqlas-PUB, well, s... happens. ^^ but good to here first step on hugs is successfully completed. ;)[19:22:44] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@186.22.120.157> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:23:31] <tojoko> mikaelj, libtoolize -vfi , was that used as an attribute or as an single command bevore compilin'?[19:24:11] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: but the second one seems a bit strange: http://chunk.io/f/18cbca3b038d4c8dbdc4a12f32554d13[19:24:39] <miqlas-PUB> single command, but i'm miqlas. Are you in the pub too?[19:29:25] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50982 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=94d84091502b+%5Eb0d251300c43[19:29:26] <HAIKU-irker458> 94d84091502b: Added square Haiku logos[19:33:13] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:34:08] <tojoko> miqlas-PUB, nope, i'm not in a pub, i'm at home.[19:34:50] <tojoko> miqlas-PUB, well http://chunk.io/f/18cbca3b038d4c8dbdc4a12f32554d13 does indeed look strange.[19:37:10] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: already fixed it[19:38:20] <tojoko> wow, cool.[19:38:32] <tsundoku> anyone know what people use to develop the bitmap image resources in the source code?[19:38:40] <tsundoku> er, produce, rather[19:40:11] <humdinger_> tsundoku: WonderBrush can save as rdef[19:40:11] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3352 of haiku-master-x86 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86/builds/3352 blamelist: Humdinger <humdingerb at gmail dot com>[19:40:30] <tsundoku> nice, thanks[19:40:48] <humdinger_> and bitmap code too[19:41:01] <miqlas-PUB> tsundoku: BeOS used to have some kind of bitmaps, but Haiku have hvif icons. About other resources i have no idea.[19:41:21] <miqlas-PUB> humdinger, you made weltuntergang![19:41:28] <humdinger_> !notme[19:41:36] <tsundoku> there are still bitmaps in the source code apparently[19:41:39] <tsundoku> for UI items etc.[19:41:41] <miqlas-PUB> !ofc it was you[19:41:57] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@5.224.222.179> has joined #haiku[19:42:00] <humdinger_> buildbots are stupid[19:42:01] <miqlas-PUB> tsundoku: feel free to vectorize them[19:42:17] <miqlas-PUB> and add 3D acceleration, btw[19:42:24] *** vivu <vivu!~vivek@103.24.87.33> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:44:28] <tsundoku> haha[19:45:08] <tsundoku> hm[19:45:14] <tsundoku> wonderbrush only builds with gcc2?[19:45:33] <miqlas-PUB> tsundoku: why haha? you just need #include <topsecret/3dhardwareaccel.h>[19:45:42] <miqlas-PUB> right?[19:45:45] <tsundoku> oh the topsecret directory[19:45:49] <tsundoku> of course![19:45:52] <tsundoku> how could I have missed that[19:46:10] <miqlas-PUB> tsundoku: WB is closed source[19:46:49] <tsundoku> oh[19:47:05] <miqlas-PUB> tsundoku: we got /system/develop/headers/takeovertheworld" too[19:47:05] <tsundoku> well that's unfortunate, then[19:47:07] <tsundoku> I can't use it[19:47:15] <miqlas-PUB> X64?[19:47:17] <tsundoku> yeah[19:47:23] <miqlas-PUB> me too.[19:47:52] <PulkoMandy> tsundoku: wonderbrush is not open source[19:47:55] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: hugs configuring...[19:48:04] <PulkoMandy> so the recipe just downloads binaries and repack them IIRC[19:48:17] <PulkoMandy> I have no idea if a build on another arch is possible, you need to ask stippi[19:48:56] <tsundoku> as far as a package build is concerned, it "works"[19:49:00] <tsundoku> but of course it won't run if installed[19:49:16] *** Dane__ <Dane__!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[19:49:23] <tsundoku> whose software is it anyway?[19:49:46] <tsundoku> yellowbites.[19:49:46] <tsundoku> hm.[19:49:49] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[19:50:00] <PulkoMandy> stippi and bonefish[19:50:01] *** robcsi <robcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has joined #haiku[19:50:18] <PulkoMandy> they have shown prototype of a version 2, with UIs written both in BeAPI and Qt[19:50:20] <tsundoku> I found a webpage for it but it's talking about Zeta and paying with Kagi so I assume it's out of date[19:50:23] <PulkoMandy> but no release yet[19:50:25] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has joined #haiku[19:50:25] *** HaikuUser is now known as Dane__[19:50:25] *** robcsi is now known as Guest18124[19:51:09] <tsundoku> do they intend to sell it or do they just not want to open the source?[19:51:11] <humdinger_> PulkoMandy: really WBv2 also with Qt? Can't remember hearing that.[19:51:27] <PulkoMandy> yes, IIRC Ingo was doing the Qt port[19:51:34] <humdinger_> cool[19:51:44] <miqlas-PUB> szia robcsi![19:52:00] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: hugs built just fine with my recipe[19:52:06] <humdinger_> tsundoku: maybe they'll release and sell the v2 if Haiku get traction and users.[19:52:20] <tsundoku> ah[19:52:30] <miqlas-PUB> robcsi: nem ismerjük mi egymást? ismerek ám egy erdélyi Robit...[19:52:50] <humdinger_> miqlas-PUB fell on the keyboard again...[19:53:07] <miqlas-PUB> bár ő rég lurkolt erre utóljára[19:53:24] <humdinger_> I translate: waitress, ein Weißbier und 3 Jägermeister"[19:53:42] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.47.128.128> has joined #haiku[19:54:44] *** Dane__ <Dane__!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:55:14] <_Dario_> Hi. There is a way to restart the network in Haiku?[19:55:29] <_Dario_> from Terminal?[19:55:47] <humdinger_> probably with ifconfig up/down[19:56:18] <tojoko> miqlas-PUB, great - you think you will contribute it or are u goin' to try the next version?[19:56:39] <_Dario_> for some reason, I have the "Renegotiate" button inactive, in Network preferences[19:57:30] <humdinger_> not sure the renegotiate works...[19:57:37] <_Dario_> humdinger_: ifconfig is only for wireless?[19:57:50] <_Dario_> I'm using a 'wired' connection[19:57:53] <PulkoMandy> no, it's for all network interfaces[19:57:56] <humdinger_> don't think so...[19:59:18] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: http://chunk.io/f/b65dd719615c494d9a72aa2020d37c96[19:59:18] <_Dario_> Thanks! for some reason, since some time ago, my connection hangs suddenly[19:59:35] <_Dario_> later I will submit a bugreport[20:00:08] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: jua * hrev50983 [6 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5d9f944f0a72+%5E94d84091502b[20:00:09] <HAIKU-irker458> 1263be8fc411: FUSE compat: add Haiku extension[20:00:10] <HAIKU-irker458> 6297d6c73b68: FUSE compat: fill in some stat infos for getattr[20:00:11] <HAIKU-irker458> 1b4f5f9b9462: FUSE compat: fall back to truncate if no ftruncate[20:00:12] <HAIKU-irker458> 5adf34b0d591: FUSE compat: add support for attribute reading[20:00:13] <HAIKU-irker458> 6ced92452c27: FUSE compat: add MIME type faking[20:00:14] <HAIKU-irker458> 5d9f944f0a72: Use common MIME table in FAT and NTFS, too[20:00:35] <miqlas-PUB> humdinger_: learn hungarisch, danke[20:00:44] *** Guest18124 <Guest18124!~vision@79.119.112.145> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:00:45] *** vivu <vivu!~vivek@2405:204:4001:af6b:1:56ff:fe01:6263> has joined #haiku[20:01:42] <tsundoku> is there any way to set fonts for specific character encodings?[20:01:42] <_Dario_> Thanks for the information, humdinger_, PulkoMandy ![20:02:14] <tsundoku> I notice that if you specify a font that doesn't have all glyphs, haiku will supplement it with another, but I'm curious as to how it picks the fallback fonts and whether that can be controlled[20:02:23] <humdinger_> miqlas-PUB: Vagyok túl hülye, hogy magyarul tanulni.[20:02:30] *** rrobcsi <rrobcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has joined #haiku[20:03:23] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: http://chunk.io/f/12bea7cf6ac1412f8cf68cca2a39a86d[20:03:25] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:04:38] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[20:07:45] <Anarchos> i just did a «pkgman update» and i got[20:07:56] <Anarchos> /bin/sh: line 1: /packages/gcc-2.95.3_2014_10_14-3/.self/develop/tools/i586-pc-haiku/bin/ld: No such file or directory[20:08:14] <tojoko> miqlas-PUB, looks good.[20:10:44] <tojoko> miqlas-PUB, you might ona try[20:10:52] <tojoko> square :: Int -> Int[20:11:00] <tojoko> square n = n * n[20:11:11] <tojoko> and then, square (5)[20:11:13] <Anarchos> tojoko do you code in SML ?[20:12:35] <tojoko> nope, i'm tryin' scala right now. haven touched haskell in 10 years or so. but it helps a lot for understandin' recursions, i think.[20:13:10] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: ERROR - Undefined variable "square"[20:13:22] <tojoko> ohh, that's the same i got on https://www.haskell.org/[20:14:22] <PulkoMandy> Anarchos: your error is while compiling Haiku?[20:14:31] <PulkoMandy> in that case you need to ./configure --update[20:14:42] <tojoko> miqlas-PUB, ok, try please[20:14:56] <PulkoMandy> In order to understand recursions, you must first understand recursions.[20:15:00] <tojoko> Main> double 32 - square (size - double 3)[20:15:17] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy yes i just tried a 'jam -q -j3 rtwn' rtwn is the wifi driver from freebsd11 i want to port[20:15:31] <miqlas-PUB> ERROR - Undefined variable "double"[20:15:35] <Anarchos> tojoko ok[20:15:41] <PulkoMandy> Anarchos: ok, so just run configure --update and it will notice the new paths to gcc and the tools[20:16:06] *** humdinger_ <humdinger_!~humdinger@x5d85b22c.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[20:16:31] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy thanks[20:16:32] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: maybe we need to tell sudo #define double: take it 2 times!!!![20:16:33] <tojoko> miqlas-PUB, well, sorry for that.[20:17:52] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy it worked, thanks[20:19:27] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-61-127.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[20:20:26] <tojoko> miqlas-PUB, nope, it seems like you need to :load FirstLiterate or FirstScript to operate correctly.[20:21:59] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko:ERROR "FirstLiterate" - Unable to open file "FirstLiterate"[20:22:19] <tojoko> miqlas-PUB, just type 23 * 36 please, if that works, if that works, try reverse "hello"[20:22:29] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: ERROR "FirstScript" - Unable to open file "FirstScript"[20:22:50] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: 828[20:23:24] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko:"olleh"[20:23:53] <miqlas-PUB> but tojoko, you know, i'm 12 years old, and you want me to do thing what i don't understand.[20:24:16] <tojoko> ^^[20:24:53] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.47.128.128> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:25:42] <tojoko> have a look in the archive you downloaded and there into 'lib' - that all should be predefined programs you can load with :load Prelude etc.[20:26:16] <tojoko> or have a look into /demos[20:26:42] <miqlas-PUB> i don't want to load NSA nto my Haiku laptop, sorry.[20:27:07] <miqlas-PUB> Sorry NSA, it is not against you, just you know, kee peace.[20:27:12] <miqlas-PUB> *keep[20:27:13] <tojoko> why don't u have another beer then! ;)[20:27:38] <tojoko> or try foldr (:) [] [1,2,3][20:29:31] <tojoko> miqlas-PUB, in your picture http://chunk.io/f/b65dd719615c494d9a72aa2020d37c96 i can't read anything after libtoolize! ;([20:31:39] <tojoko> and libtoolize doesn't work for me.[20:34:35] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:35:24] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-252-096.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[20:35:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[20:35:37] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@77.79.212.94> has joined #haiku[20:37:25] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.201.135.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[20:37:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[20:39:07] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: it is magic.[20:39:28] <miqlas-PUB> worksforme (TM)[20:40:14] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: [1,2,3][20:44:23] <miqlas-PUB> tojoko: why don't you answer to this picture???? http://chunk.io/f/12bea7cf6ac1412f8cf68cca2a39a86d[20:46:53] <maywork> Anyone here in charge of the mailing list? In the welcome message the link to the etiquette needs to be updated[20:46:56] *** skk123 <skk123!~androirc@103.24.87.199> has joined #haiku[20:47:43] <miqlas-PUB> humdinger: it is UI, you need to do it![20:48:39] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[20:48:51] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[20:50:06] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[20:52:59] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3353 of haiku-master-x86 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86/builds/3353[20:54:43] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has joined #haiku[20:55:16] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[20:56:14] <Anarchos> miqlas-PUB sudo jägermeister, lol[21:06:00] <miqlas-PUB> Anarchos: sudo apt-get hefeweizen[21:06:04] <miqlas-PUB> shiet[21:06:14] <miqlas-PUB> sudo pt-get install hefewezten[21:06:45] <BrunoSpre> hey whats going on here?[21:07:12] <BrunoSpre> Helau?[21:08:55] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!bc68c864@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.104.200.100> has joined #haiku[21:10:16] *** miqlas-PUB is now known as miqlas-JEGERMEIS[21:11:02] <miqlas-JEGERMEIS> BrunoSpre: no, we just trying to install more hefeweizen.[21:12:31] <BrunoSpre> ah ok nice attempt[21:12:45] <Not-4a11> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/ea93bd747e4f...61a3bc2e22c2[21:12:47] <Not-4a11> [haiku/website] pulkomandy 61a3bc2 - Add news entry about GSoC 2017.[21:14:47] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: Bye for now!)[21:19:22] <tojoko> miqlas-JEGERMEIS, i did - i already said, congratulations my old fellow! :)[21:19:36] <tojoko> and my deepest respect - cheers! :)[21:25:41] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:28:02] *** SteveH2013 <SteveH2013!~vision@c-24-129-87-240.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[21:29:32] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #haiku[21:30:58] *** vivu <vivu!~vivek@2405:204:4001:af6b:1:56ff:fe01:6263> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:32:12] *** Carzil <Carzil!~carzil@128-68-48-108.broadband.corbina.ru> has joined #haiku[21:32:52] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!bc68c864@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.104.200.100> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[21:37:16] *** rrobcsi is now known as robcsi[21:37:51] <miqlas-JEGERMEIS> tojoko, t is alreadyy a PR in HaikuPorts[21:37:53] <miqlas-JEGERMEIS> bye[21:38:05] *** miqlas-JEGERMEIS <miqlas-JEGERMEIS!~Haiku@tmo-115-18.customers.d1-online.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[21:40:02] <Not-4a11> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/61a3bc2e22c2...80c1b2a6458e[21:40:03] <Not-4a11> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 80c1b2a - Update GSoC 2017 ideas.[21:40:32] *** robcsi <robcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: Exit, stage left!)[21:42:03] *** Carzil <Carzil!~carzil@128-68-48-108.broadband.corbina.ru> has left #haiku[21:44:38] *** vivu <vivu!~vivek@103.24.87.199> has joined #haiku[21:44:55] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:49:06] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:49:58] <tojoko> miqlas: Thanks a lot, but it doesn't yet show up here! :([21:54:06] <tojoko> can somebody point out to me where to find the sources of the haiku ports?[21:54:12] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[21:55:11] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Quiit...)[21:56:22] <waddlesplash> tojoko: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/[21:56:41] <tojoko> but there is no lately commit from miqlas![21:57:21] <tojoko> waddlesplash, thanks a lot, got it https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/1195[21:58:34] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@37.169.195.224> has joined #haiku[21:58:34] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@37.169.195.224> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:58:34] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[21:58:40] <mounty> Diver : I was hopingy you wouldn't answer config/settings/system/app_server because the files in there are binary. :-([21:59:09] <Diver> so what?) you can still copy them[21:59:15] <waddlesplash> mounty: they are BMessages[21:59:18] <waddlesplash> (I think?)[21:59:27] <waddlesplash> mounty: you can dump their contents by using the "message" command[21:59:58] <Not-4a11> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/80c1b2a6458e...0c8f0e43bf79[22:00:00] <Not-4a11> [haiku/website] pulkomandy 0c8f0e4 - Update GSoC 2017 page to reflect our acceptance.[22:01:14] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-61-127.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[22:02:57] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:04:09] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-vxibclxxaeqqkxsa> has joined #haiku[22:05:44] *** SteveH2013 <SteveH2013!~vision@c-24-129-87-240.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[22:06:23] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:13:26] <Not-4a11> [haikuports/haikuporter] orangejua pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/8a6076e696c0...3bd9a89fa00f[22:13:28] <Not-4a11> [haikuports/haikuporter] orangejua 3bd9a89 - Fix git source fetch[22:16:17] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@AToulon-256-1-160-184.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #haiku[22:16:17] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@AToulon-256-1-160-184.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Changing host)[22:16:17] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[22:18:28] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[22:19:06] <Begas_VBox> Congrats on the acceptions to GSoC 2017![22:19:17] <Begas_VBox> accepting* :)[22:27:57] <mounty> waddlesplash: 'message' dumps their contents but how can I change them?[22:28:10] * waddlesplash can't recall[22:30:13] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:31:38] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[22:40:52] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-vxibclxxaeqqkxsa> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:41:07] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-bohmtsrmkibsjclz> has joined #haiku[22:44:03] <arroyoc> what requisites need students to work on GSoC?[22:45:40] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@77.79.212.94> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:47:03] *** BitPuffin <BitPuffin!~usefulPro@c83-248-115-86.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:47:39] <tojoko> arroyoc, not much, except 40 hours / per week free time.[22:48:28] *** pdziepak <pdziepak!~pdziepak@88.98.221.225> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:48:59] <arroyoc> tojoko, is full summer required or how many weeks?[22:49:18] <tojoko> arroyoc, well, expect full summer, but there was a timeline:[22:49:19] <arroyoc> i suppose full summer is different in different countries[22:50:18] <tojoko> here: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ - well, problem for me is, we do have final exams at the end of july.[22:50:42] <tojoko> arroyoc, where r u from?[22:52:55] <arroyoc> tojoko, Spain[22:53:16] <tojoko> oh, cool, that's europe to[22:53:19] * tojoko is from germany[22:53:59] <arroyoc> tojoko, Valladolid more exactly, exam dates changes between universities[22:55:07] <arroyoc> i've seen it starts in june[22:55:46] <arroyoc> but how many people have june available?[22:56:08] <tojoko> ^^ well, take a year off ;) I'm afraid that's what it will be like.[22:57:30] * Anarchos is from france[22:59:00] *** agneet42 <agneet42!~agneet@113.21.78.166> has joined #haiku[22:59:58] *** agneet42 <agneet42!~agneet@113.21.78.166> has left #haiku ("Quit")[23:00:10] <tojoko> Anarchos, are u planin' on joinin' the google summer of code!?[23:01:55] <Anarchos> tojoko oh no i have no money (thanks to my kids and my exwife debts)[23:02:08] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.201.135.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[23:02:16] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-252-096.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[23:03:01] <tojoko> Anarchos, what? i just found out they would pay me 6000, if succesfully.[23:03:43] <munchausen> w00p GSoC![23:07:35] *** orealis <orealis!~cre8or@178.51-174-179.customer.lyse.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:08:32] *** HAIKU-Buildbot <HAIKU-Buildbot!~HAIKU-Bui@baron.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (Quit: buildmaster reconfigured: bot disconnecting)[23:08:46] *** HAIKU-Buildbot <HAIKU-Buildbot!~HAIKU-Bui@baron.haiku-os.org> has joined #haiku[23:08:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-Buildbot[23:15:40] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:16:09] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:20:14] *** rgb <rgb!58a323de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.163.35.222> has joined #haiku[23:28:05] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[23:40:22] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@5.224.222.179> has quit IRC (Quit: arroyoc)[23:49:26] <Anarchos> tojoko 'if successfully' and i am not a student anmore[23:50:09] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B150E0C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:52:00] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-bohmtsrmkibsjclz> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:59:13] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@209.181.88.61> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)