February 23, 2017 
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February 23, 2017 [00:00:03] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[00:03:41] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[00:06:48] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[00:07:46] <tsundoku> oh[00:08:24] *** cmkatt <cmkatt!~AndChat41@181.141.128.125> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:10:27] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-218-107.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[00:15:13] <Vidrep> waddlesplash, have you tried x86_gcc2 Web+?[00:15:25] <Vidrep> ...or anybody else?[00:15:33] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[00:15:47] <krbtgt|> Vidrep: let me check[00:16:28] <krbtgt|> Vidrep: text renders fine on latest hrev iirc[00:16:47] <krbtgt|> 50970[00:17:15] <Vidrep> https://www.haiku-os.org/[00:17:21] <krbtgt|> yes i see it[00:17:29] <tsundoku> latest is 50971 isn't it?[00:18:05] <krbtgt|> that clump of commits is just BString and pkgman refactoring[00:18:18] <tsundoku> ah[00:18:25] <Vidrep> krbtgt|, what do you see? Or not see? :)[00:18:27] <krbtgt|> http://i.imgur.com/Kv765kG.png[00:19:44] * tsundoku notes that krbtgt|has the tab bar enabled with one tab[00:20:26] <Barrett> not all audio issues are my fault[00:21:32] <krbtgt|> tsundoku: its default[00:21:32] <Barrett> I'd say, very few recently[00:21:39] <krbtgt|> and i dont like my tab bar going up and down[00:22:34] <Vidrep> http://imgur.com/a/EkI63[00:23:06] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: looks like a rendering error, not website problem. idk[00:23:35] <Vidrep> waddlesplash, that's on two different PC's[00:23:46] <waddlesplash> well, idk[00:23:50] <waddlesplash> but it works everywhere else :/[00:23:55] <Vidrep> But only x86_gcc2 is affected.[00:24:35] <waddlesplash> yes, which is why I'd blame rendering error of sorts[00:25:50] <Vidrep> I'll create a ticket for it. Let the Web+ expert figure it out[00:30:29] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[00:32:33] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: I need sleep, or I'm drunk, or both)[00:32:58] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[00:36:49] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-qkevlhmxkoiuodnp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[00:38:10] <tsundoku> re: earlier problems with audio playback, I restarted media_server and it seems fine now[00:38:13] <tsundoku> I'll keep an eye on it[00:41:38] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has joined #haiku[01:10:57] <tsundoku> and re: the problem with MediaPlayer crashing when an item is dragged to the playlist window, it seems to consistently *not* happen if I have Debugger attached[01:11:01] <tsundoku> but if not, it crashes[01:13:38] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-124-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[01:14:06] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[01:24:38] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.46.224.113> has joined #haiku[01:25:02] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[01:29:08] *** cmkatt <cmkatt!~AndChat41@181.141.128.125> has joined #haiku[01:29:22] <tsundoku> unrelated but... did titlebars get fatter somewhere along the line?[01:29:39] <waddlesplash> they did, Noto Sans has different metrics than DejaVu[01:29:43] <tsundoku> ahh[01:29:46] <tsundoku> so it's just a font thing[01:29:51] <waddlesplash> yes[01:34:40] <tsundoku> going to try and submit a bug report about this drag and drop playlist thing...[01:34:47] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[01:37:09] <LaceySnr> any of you guys run Haiku in Virtualbox under windows/[01:37:19] <LaceySnr> for some reason mouse input etc. really isn't smooth[01:37:25] <LaceySnr> much smoother on my Mac but I don't know why[01:37:27] <krbtgt|> do you have the additions?[01:37:40] <krbtgt|> my guess is mouse acceleration differences[01:39:21] <LaceySnr> I didn't think there were additions for Haiku?[01:39:28] <LaceySnr> I don't recall installing any for the Mac at least[01:40:42] <waddlesplash> LaceySnr: switch to Absolute Pointing Device in vm settings[01:40:51] <waddlesplash> LaceySnr: (or "USB Tablet", one or the other)[01:43:56] <LaceySnr> I've got it set to USB tablet[01:44:08] <LaceySnr> it's weird, the cursor actually vanishes as it moves around[01:44:16] <LaceySnr> maybe it's to do with the graphics driver Haiku is using?[01:45:13] <krbtgt|> if its absolute, then I think it's your host OS' mouse settings in charge[01:45:23] <krbtgt|> in which case its mouse accel between mac OS and windows[01:46:11] <LaceySnr> but the cursor shouldn't vanish and generally be slow[01:46:21] <LaceySnr> it's not like that in windows[01:46:25] <LaceySnr> or even in an Atari emulator :)[01:50:48] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6467735d4575...12b96a3a64f6[01:50:49] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash 12b96a3 - wxQt: Switch from 3.1.0 to 3.1.0_git (wxQt WIP Git branch).[01:50:55] <LaceySnr> is there more than one driver option available under virtualbox?[01:51:08] <waddlesplash> nope[01:51:20] <krbtgt|> there are VM additions for haiku[01:51:20] <LaceySnr> didn't think so[01:51:23] <krbtgt|> that include a mouse driver[01:51:27] <LaceySnr> they in haikudepot?[01:51:29] <krbtgt|> yes[01:51:30] <waddlesplash> krbtgt|: only for VMware[01:51:35] <krbtgt|> i saw vbox ones[01:51:42] <waddlesplash> they're only for shared clipboard iirc[01:51:48] <stargate1> have anyone used indent to format the c or c++ code?[01:52:34] <LaceySnr> I think it's a graphics thing... even Chart isn't smooth[01:56:02] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[02:21:36] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wnunvjhmzruobdte> has joined #haiku[02:25:17] *** dograt <dograt!~dograt@unaffiliated/dograt> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[02:26:35] *** dograt <dograt!~dograt@unaffiliated/dograt> has joined #haiku[02:27:31] <AndrewZ> Is there no GTK on Haiku?[02:28:51] <AndrewZ> @stargate1 It looks like vim supports indent[02:30:28] *** postmen <postmen!~tonio@p5B151CBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[02:39:29] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[02:40:04] *** postmen <postmen!~tonio@p5B151CBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:48:32] <stargate1> the orginal beos font are?[03:07:51] <waddlesplash> AndrewZ: nope, because GTK is a nightmare that nobody wants to touch[03:08:00] <waddlesplash> AndrewZ: we just got a mostly-working wxWidgets port tho[03:12:42] *** King_Warg1 <King_Warg1!~Wildman@50.110.119.245> has joined #haiku[03:14:27] *** King_Warg <King_Warg!~Wildman@50.110.118.169> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:18:13] *** phcoder <phcoder!~phcoder@124.23.196.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:18:32] *** phcoder_ <phcoder_!~phcoder@124.23.196.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has joined #haiku[03:18:35] *** phcoder_ is now known as phcoder[03:40:55] *** ciphtise <ciphtise!~Userdom@x4e37d47b.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[03:54:16] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~MattLacey@CPE-120-147-195-43.gdiv2.lon.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:54:37] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~MattLacey@CPE-120-147-195-43.gdiv2.lon.bigpond.net.au> has joined #haiku[04:07:37] *** _Dario_ 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<The_Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[06:41:01] <miqlas> stargate1: i suppose Swiss 721 BT[06:41:20] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:48:51] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:7874:c343:fe0:34f7> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[06:50:27] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~MattLacey@CPE-120-147-195-43.gdiv2.lon.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:51:17] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~MattLacey@CPE-120-147-195-43.gdiv2.lon.bigpond.net.au> has joined #haiku[06:52:53] *** jessicah <jessicah!uid33885@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-twlbsrinxknrqzus> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[06:54:37] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[07:14:57] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[07:37:18] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:39:26] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85a629.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[07:39:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[07:43:17] <humdinger> waddlesplash: any idea why the blurb on the front-page of a blog post ignores html formatting?[07:43:27] <humdinger> no paragraphs, newlines, links[07:44:37] <humdinger> I first commited a perfectly formatted html, after seeing that removed the <p> etc. and now use a similar formatting as mmu_man's FOSDEM blog.[07:44:47] <humdinger> Still no joy on the front page.[07:45:56] <humdinger> I'll reformat to html again, at least the post itself then comes out as expected...[07:48:29] *** jessicah <jessicah!uid33885@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-chdotcrzizjhzhaz> has joined #haiku[07:48:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah[07:48:42] <humdinger> Hi jessicah![07:48:57] <humdinger> haven't heard from you in a long time. everything OK?[07:49:38] <korli> hi humdinger jessicah[07:49:39] <jessicah> yeah[07:49:48] <jessicah> just very tired lately[07:50:20] <jessicah> and my fibre connection is dead tonight :( sucky[07:51:07] <humdinger> got the old analog modem out again? :)[07:51:47] <OmniMancer> the copper line tends to get DCed when you get the fibre hooked up[07:53:07] <humdinger> A mistake, it turned out. :)[07:58:14] <jessicah> copper line is still there[07:58:18] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/12b96a3a64f6...60664ec2596e[07:58:20] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] miqlas 60664ec - libyajl: new recipe (#1163)[07:58:24] <jessicah> I'm using phone tethering[07:59:01] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/60664ec2596e...7364cfdcef19[07:59:03] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] miqlas 7364cfd - libpcre2: bump version (#1164)[08:01:43] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/7364cfdcef19...f9e5fd153478[08:01:45] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] return f9e5fd1 - zeal: new recipe (#1165)[08:03:01] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/c01922fcbc75...068c105527e3[08:03:03] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb 068c105 - Changes to blog "Building packages with haikuporter"[08:08:23] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wnunvjhmzruobdte> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[08:48:31] <korli> humdinger: maybe you can change the filename to 2017-02-22_building_packages_with_haikuporter.md[08:52:07] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-10-123.moscow.rt.ru> has joined #haiku[08:54:23] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[08:55:45] <humdinger> korli: even if it's now html again?[08:56:09] <humdinger> what are the chances this wrecks ahvock with the comments etc.?[08:56:29] <humdinger> I think I rather have a messed up blurb. :)[08:58:32] <korli> i see also html in fosdem report which is with .md[08:58:35] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-btcksblmlmuaocho> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[08:59:27] <humdinger> yes. that one is a mishmash of html and markup. or rather html without paragraphs etc.[08:59:47] <humdinger> maybe it really is just the ending .md that makes the blurb-difference.[09:00:00] <humdinger> I'll try with the next blog post[09:00:11] <humdinger> (if I remember that then...)[09:00:59] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-124-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[09:21:08] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[09:21:14] *** ZMBK <ZMBK!~ZMBKR@60-240-147-254.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[09:21:16] <ZMBK> hi[09:21:31] <humdinger> hullo[09:35:46] *** stargater 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I have PulkoMandy's response to #13336, but not the original ticket creation by Vidrep...[09:39:12] <korli> humdinger: it's a regression since trac update[09:42:31] <humdinger> I see. thanks. hope nielx is on it... or someone...[09:51:08] <humdinger> right. must've missed that ticket https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13334[09:54:30] <korli> it seems pretty clear in the configuration manual: https://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracNotification maybe the settings were lost, idk[09:58:47] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74815.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:58:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[10:06:00] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@apn-37-248-162-234.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:08:08] * King_Warg1 slothfully checks bebytes app submissions[10:08:17] *** King_Warg1 is now known as King_Warg[10:08:56] * King_Warg blows dust bunnies out of app submissions page[10:18:53] *** mutin-s <mutin-s!~s-mutin@mail.ska-irk.ru> has joined #haiku[10:19:12] 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<[JJ]Albert_!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:1517:757b:6afb:afa9> has joined #haiku[15:49:33] *** fritzvd_ <fritzvd_!uid44866@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rijonvmzbfobzafi> has joined #haiku[15:49:37] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-orvbohbpopsnsyvt> has joined #haiku[15:59:57] *** SteveH2013 <SteveH2013!~vision@c-24-129-87-240.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[16:02:23] <SteveH2013> Is there someone who manages the Haiku website here? I think the "forgot password" login facility is not working. I've tried numerous times and no retrieval of my information to my e-mail address. Nothing in the spam folder either.[16:02:53] *** jessicah <jessicah!uid33885@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-chdotcrzizjhzhaz> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[16:09:19] <SteveH2013> library question: if an app returns: "Could not resolve symbol '__tls_get_addr'", then looks like I'm not linking in pthreads, right? What's the appropriate library to link in? Thanks.[16:12:01] *** ZMBK <ZMBK!~ZMBKR@60-240-147-254.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[16:12:29] <korli> SteveH2013: on x86_gcc2 only the gcc5 libroot.so has this symbol[16:13:02] <korli> better to build with haikuporter because it uses a chroot[16:15:55] <SteveH2013> Ah, thanks, I'll try that. It's related to Calvin's port attempt of mono. He's getting stuck at getting Roslyn compiler to run. I'm trying to get the monolite bootstrap to work (mcs compiler from mono project) and the mono runtime app was kicking out with this unresolved symbol. Trying now with configure having -lroot...[16:18:30] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85a629.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:18:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[16:20:56] <fritzvd_> can anyone help me out ? I installed cairo through pkgman but it can't find the header files when including it in a c project[16:21:14] <fritzvd_> i also installed the _devel packages[16:21:31] <korli> SteveH2013: you're with gcc5 on x86_gcc2? the runtime_loader searchs for an ELF symbol or the ELF comment section to find out that it should link as a gcc5 lib or executable[16:21:44] <krbtgt|> SteveH2013: /me is calvin[16:21:55] <humdinger> If you look into the "Contents" tab in HaikUDepot of the _devel package, you'll see where stuff ends up.[16:21:59] <krbtgt|> basically, if you use my branch, everything should just work if you setarch x86; ./configure; make[16:22:15] <krbtgt|> i set up pthreads as the TLS model, as haiku doesn't support __thread even with gcc5 just yet[16:23:18] <korli> fritzvd_: or use "pkgman install cairo_devel"[16:24:08] <krbtgt|> i'm having issues but i think its deeper in the runtime[16:25:31] <SteveH2013> I'll pull yours and try but I think you should skip Roslyn and try the mcs compiler[16:26:30] <krbtgt|> i tried mcs, but i ran into issues with it thinking every binary was corrupt[16:26:47] <SteveH2013> which binary?[16:27:03] <krbtgt|> every binary loaded as a reference[16:29:06] <krbtgt|> ill try mcs again, however[16:29:53] <SteveH2013> your instructions on the build kinda threw me at first because there is no configure, have to generate with ./autogen.sh --prefix=...[16:31:12] <SteveH2013> so you did a "make get-monolite-latest" and then you set your EXTERNAL_MCS =.../mono/mcs/classs/lib/monolite/mcs.exe" ?[16:31:18] <krbtgt|> oh yeah, forget about lovely autotools[16:31:24] <krbtgt|> you dont need to set external MCS[16:31:27] <krbtgt|> use --with-csc=mcs[16:31:58] <humdinger> SteveH2013: I confirm: passwords at the forums aren't reset. ticket filed: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13339[16:35:21] * krbtgt| waits for mono to rebuild and get to the part where managed code runs[16:38:28] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zoflrvopuwkgiert> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:47:03] <fritzvd_> i can only install cairo_x86_devel and I already have the development packages[16:47:55] <humdinger> fritzvd_: didn't the "Contents" help?[16:53:47] <fritzvd_> humdinger:[16:54:23] <fritzvd_> humdinger: well it shows me the contents of the installed package, but cairo won't show up in pkg-config[16:57:01] <humdinger> I have almost no idea about porting... maybe you need to specify the headers/libs and point that to where things from the _devel package get installed?[16:57:41] <krbtgt|> SteveH2013: compiling still?[16:59:32] <fritzvd_> humdinger: ok. i'll try to set the links manually .. still kind of defines the purpose of a pkgmanager that can install devel pkges ;)[16:59:40] <fritzvd_> humdinger: *defies[16:59:56] <humdinger> I'm pretty sure you're doing something wrong... :)[17:00:48] <fritzvd_> that's what I think.. let me have one more go at it[17:01:27] <SteveH2013> krbtgt, I'm missing something here. Where are your changes? Are they in your master from your pull? I'm a noob git user. Even if I go to your repository on the web, for example, I don't see changes in ...support/sys-time.c that you had to make[17:02:14] <krbtgt|> you need to switch to that branch[17:02:44] <krbtgt|> so if you've pulled my repository for example, you'd need to switch to my branch where i've done work, as otherwise you get the unmodified one[17:03:39] <SteveH2013> and the name of the branch is...[17:04:39] <SteveH2013> haiku...duh![17:06:07] <krbtgt|> git's a bit hard the first time[17:06:14] <krbtgt|> once you know the ceremony its actually pretty simple[17:07:38] <korli> fritzvd_: did you try /bin/x86/pkg-config ?[17:08:22] *** jessicah <jessicah!uid33885@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hydynryeysyivqog> has joined #haiku[17:08:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah[17:09:41] <krbtgt|> after that, run ./configure --with-csc=mcs[17:09:44] <fritzvd_> korli: not yet. also what's the difference?[17:09:47] <SteveH2013> If I'm just a dummy following directions, how would I know that your branch name was "haiku"? It could have been "calvin". Did I miss something in everything I read before I started or was I supposed to know?[17:10:05] <fritzvd_> SteveH2013: git branch -a shows all branches[17:10:09] <krbtgt|> i submitted the PR to upstream and that had the branch info https://github.com/mono/mono/pull/4373[17:10:12] <korli> fritzvd_: or export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/system/devel/lib/x86/pkgconfig[17:10:37] <korli> fritzvd_: /bin/x86/pkg-config should look for .pc files in /system/devel/lib/x86/pkgconfig instead of /system/devel/lib/pkgconfig[17:10:37] <fritzvd_> that actually works! cool[17:12:13] <fritzvd_> what is the difference with the x86 appendage though? is it 32-bit vs 64-bit packages?[17:12:28] <krbtgt|> hybrid stuff i bet[17:12:37] <krbtgt|> because x86 hybrids default to gcc2 because be[17:14:14] <krbtgt|> yup, i get a CS0009 error from the compiler for mscorlib and System, making it unable to parse types[17:14:18] <krbtgt|> and make it bomb out[17:14:56] *** HeTo <HeTo!henkka@battery.modeemi.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:15:22] <humdinger> Hey, I expected to get another lame "badge" at the forums to be the first one using a poll... :)[17:15:23] <humdinger> https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/quicklaunch-launch-with-single-click/5425/1[17:15:38] <humdinger> no badge for me...[17:15:40] *** HeTo <HeTo!henkka@battery.modeemi.fi> has joined #haiku[17:16:58] <korli> humdinger: community manager? :)[17:17:36] <humdinger> or community pollster[17:17:55] <humdinger> totally rigged. rigged![17:17:56] *** Begas_VM <Begas_VM!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[17:18:47] <humdinger> Hey Begas_VM (Scumm)[17:19:02] <Begas_VM> hi humdinger[17:19:06] <Begas_VM> Scumm? ;)[17:19:20] <humdinger> you're mr ScummVM[17:19:32] <Begas_VM> anything to report?[17:19:38] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:19:49] <humdinger> not me...[17:19:59] <Begas_VM> ScummVM looks better then Scumm ;)[17:20:15] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@AToulon-256-1-157-53.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #haiku[17:20:15] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@AToulon-256-1-157-53.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:20:15] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[17:20:17] <Begas_VM> any problems reported?[17:20:54] <humdinger> no. I just saw your _VM suffix and thought... Scumm*[17:21:02] <Begas_VM> lol[17:21:21] <humdinger> alwas nice having to explain my warped mind[17:21:29] *** Begas_VM is now known as Begas_VB[17:21:35] <Begas_VB> (VirtualBox) :)[17:21:56] <Begas_VB> yeah, maybe it's time for your medication? :P[17:22:00] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:22:03] <humdinger> going virtual?[17:22:12] <Begas_VB> been doing for a while[17:22:20] <humdinger> too early for my hops infusion[17:22:34] *** HeTo <HeTo!henkka@battery.modeemi.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:22:40] <Begas_VB> noticed the compiler is more stable in virtualenv* then on bare metal :/[17:22:57] <Begas_VB> (that and I can check x86 and x86_64 also) :)[17:24:13] <Begas_VB> building wxQt would probably send me into crashes tons of time (before being able to build it)[17:24:15] <humdinger> yes. that's convenient. I can reboot into 64bit and x86, but I try not to.[17:24:23] *** HeTo <HeTo!henkka@battery.modeemi.fi> has joined #haiku[17:26:27] <Begas_VB> for testing Edgar is was nice to see it building and running there :)[17:32:33] * humdinger is idle: rowing[17:34:36] <Begas_VB> rowing?[17:36:29] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[17:36:30] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: I need sleep, or I'm drunk, or both)[17:37:01] *** HeTo <HeTo!henkka@battery.modeemi.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:39:45] *** HeTo <HeTo!henkka@battery.modeemi.fi> has joined #haiku[17:49:16] * humdinger has a rowing machine[17:49:31] <humdinger> and before you ask: no, it's actually me that's rowing[17:52:32] * krbtgt| brb[17:52:46] * humdinger has returned[18:19:14] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iidjdahudvddzpjs> has joined #haiku[18:20:13] <SteveH2013> Calvin, might be a problem with your repo. Copy it to another directory and do a "make clean" and see if you get a "seperator" error[18:21:58] *** ZMBK <ZMBK!~ZMBKR@60-240-147-254.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:29:14] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[18:31:57] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD7594A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[18:31:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[18:32:18] *** yosafbridge <yosafbridge!~yosafbrid@68.ip-149-56-14.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:35:03] <owenca> hi humdinger PulkoMandy! i got it to work: https://github.com/HaikuArchives/ArtPaint/pull/52[18:36:03] <tsundoku> idle question but there aren't any BeOS utilities that either read mbox files or convert them to Be-style mail files, is there?[18:36:18] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:36:19] <tsundoku> trying to find a way to get around a mailer_daemon bug[18:36:40] *** yosafbridge <yosafbridge!~yosafbrid@68.ip-149-56-14.net> has joined #haiku[18:36:43] <tsundoku> s/mail_daemon[18:39:02] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@209.181.88.61> has joined #haiku[18:39:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[18:42:24] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-srksohwvfnzkthpx> has joined #haiku[18:42:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[18:42:29] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f9e5fd153478...0a53269d8b14[18:42:31] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash 0a53269 - Rename wxqt-3.1.0_git.recipe to wxqt-3.1.1~git.recipe[18:43:26] *** TwoFx <TwoFx!~TwoFx@2001:7c0:409:8f01:7e05:7ff:fe75:6985> has joined #haiku[18:44:12] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/068c105527e3...ed5203a9906a[18:44:14] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] kainjow ed5203a - Place sidebar at the bottom for mobile so content is at the top (#36)[18:44:45] *** mikedld <mikedld!~mikedld@mikedld.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:45:54] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±78] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/ed5203a9906a...2ff6d7e3079a[18:45:56] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] kainjow 2ff6d7e - Add missing conference (Upcoming Events) index page (#34)[18:48:27] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD7594A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[18:48:41] *** mikedld <mikedld!~mikedld@mikedld.com> has joined #haiku[18:52:58] *** TwoFx <TwoFx!~TwoFx@2001:7c0:409:8f01:7e05:7ff:fe75:6985> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:54:14] <humdinger> tsundoku: MboxToBeMail.txt sounds like it could work for you. See http://pulkomandy.tk/~beosarchive/index.pl?search=mbox[18:54:49] <krbtgt|> wasnt tsundoku's issue with too much mail?[18:55:06] <tsundoku> basically[18:55:16] <humdinger> owenca: I leave it to PulkoMandy, as he's le codeur extraordinaire[18:55:17] <tsundoku> although I haven't been able to test it thoroughly[18:55:37] <tsundoku> because the IMAP folder options in the settings don't show me everything and it doesn't seem to even get to the inbox[18:58:09] <tsundoku> I found mboxify somewhere but not MboxtoBeMail, which should be what I need[18:58:29] <tsundoku> I wonder if the mail client will accept me doing this manually, setting up the directory, and turning it over to it[18:58:40] <tsundoku> or if it will still try to download everything over IMAP and run itself out of memory[18:58:48] <tsundoku> one way to find out[18:59:08] <krbtgt|> only 4 GB per process. sad![19:00:11] <tsundoku> SICK![19:00:32] <tsundoku> I wonder if recompiling mail_daemon as 64-bit would actually fix the problem[19:00:42] <tsundoku> or if it would just allow it to run the whole system out of momory instead of just itself[19:00:47] <krbtgt|> SteveH2013: its a clean repo?[19:00:58] <krbtgt|> make sure you're onm the right arch[19:01:04] <tsundoku> I haven't dug deeply enough to determine whether it's actually working but needs more addressable space, or if it's spun out of control and just leaking memory[19:01:46] <waddlesplash> tsundoku: ... mail_daemon is 64bit on 64bit systems?[19:02:24] <SteveH2013> Calvin, I did a "make clean" at the top level of your mono tree and got a separator error (i.e. Makefile error) and I haven't touched any low level makefiles[19:02:52] <SteveH2013> So I just wanted you to try the same but copy everything over to a temp directory so you don't mess up your build tree[19:02:58] <krbtgt|> probably because theres nothing to clean?[19:03:05] <krbtgt|> im aware from my computer atm[19:03:15] <krbtgt|> somehow my ssh session is lagging by seconds[19:03:22] <krbtgt|> with full bars of LTE[19:03:25] <tsundoku> waddlesplash: then maybe my suspicions are misplaced[19:03:40] <waddlesplash> tsundoku: yeah, 64bit Haiku doesn't even support 32bit apps[19:03:46] <tsundoku> good to know[19:03:48] <SteveH2013> okay, but clean goes through the subdirectory makefile tree just the same[19:03:53] <tsundoku> so that means webpositive is 634-bit too[19:03:55] <tsundoku> excellent[19:03:57] <waddlesplash> yep[19:03:57] <tsundoku> *64[19:03:59] <krbtgt|> yeah clean has nothing to clean iirc[19:04:04] <tsundoku> my web browsing needs just don't fit in 4GB[19:04:08] <krbtgt|> i dont think i added that problem[19:04:22] <tsundoku> in any case, the behavior I observe with mail_daemon is that when it tries to download the mailbox contents, it rapidly runs up memory usage and crashes when it hits 4GB[19:04:38] <tsundoku> then restarts and repeats the same thing[19:04:51] <krbtgt|> and isps want to replace wireline with everyone using LTE[19:04:59] <tsundoku> it succeeds at downloading a fair number of messages but it crashes before it gets anywhere near all of them[19:04:59] <Skipp_OSX> waddlesplash, hi[19:05:08] <waddlesplash> hi Skipp_OSX[19:05:20] <krbtgt|> fucking have fun with that[19:05:29] <waddlesplash> krbtgt|: keep it PG. :)[19:05:35] <SteveH2013> I did a manual path of your changes to the latest greatest mono master branch and I'm still getting this pesky __tls_get_addr error and I know it's related to pthreads and I have those 2 lines about pthreads in the top configure.ac so that's frustrating[19:05:36] <Skipp_OSX> waddlesplash, I must admit that I haven't actually tested my latest change to test .pdb extension and I hope I haven't broken PackageInstaller[19:05:48] <waddlesplash> Skipp_OSX: it looked OK to me, but it seems rather pointless[19:05:59] <waddlesplash> Skipp_OSX: seeing as .pdb files are created by and only by PackageInstaller itself[19:06:07] <Skipp_OSX> waddlesplash, yeah, it mostly is[19:06:10] <waddlesplash> so the case-insensitivity makes no difference[19:06:23] <waddlesplash> a plain StartsWith would have worked fine[19:06:28] <waddlesplash> but it looked ok, yeah[19:06:34] <krbtgt|> SteveH2013: configure will set pthreads[19:06:36] <waddlesplash> tsundoku: that sounds like a memory leak, yeah[19:06:45] <SteveH2013> Calvin, I think the mono people might have messed up the permissions on the monolite files. They may have to be 755 (the DLLs and mcs.exe).[19:06:47] <Skipp_OSX> waddlesplash, of course the user or another process could have renamed the files in the meantime[19:06:51] <waddlesplash> Skipp_OSX: __tls_* is thread-local-storage[19:07:00] <Skipp_OSX> waddlesplash, it is unlikely though I admit[19:07:04] <waddlesplash> Skipp_OSX: what exactly would do that? they're system files[19:07:08] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #haiku[19:07:09] <waddlesplash> yeah[19:07:15] <krbtgt|> SteveH2013: have you run setarch x86[19:07:21] <krbtgt|> mono will NOT work with gcc2[19:07:31] <krbtgt|> also warning i havent tried amd64 yet[19:07:43] <krbtgt|> so if youre using that i have no idea[19:07:48] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@tmo-102-77.customers.d1-online.com> has joined #haiku[19:07:58] <miqlas-H64> Hi[19:08:23] <SteveH2013> yes, of course Calvin. I originally started porting a couple of years ago and stopped, got too busy. I got ALL the .net csharp code to compile, build the DLLs and was onto the testing phase[19:09:11] <Skipp_OSX> I did test IStartsWith and IEndsWith though using the unit tests, although I never actually got the unit test framework to work[19:09:38] <Skipp_OSX> If somebody can provide directions on how to get that working I would love to actually run the unit tests the way they are intended to be run[19:09:50] <krbtgt|> is that a newish hrev[19:10:02] <SteveH2013> They were at mono 3.2 then I believe. I looked back into an old backup and I noticed that the working set I had shows 755 permissions on the monolite files for the mcs.exe (was called basic.exe back then) and the .net runtime dlls were also 755 permissions[19:10:09] <krbtgt|> i know they did fix a pthread bug in newer hrevs[19:10:21] <krbtgt|> oh interesting, the .net ones ned to be executable?[19:10:48] <krbtgt|> i wouldnt think theyd need to be because haiku isnt executing, rather mono[19:10:57] <SteveH2013> Look at the error you got trying to run mcs. Sounds like it[19:11:14] <SteveH2013> I know, but give it a try[19:12:37] <SteveH2013> I'm on hrev50970[19:13:02] <SteveH2013> what hrev are you at with your mono building?[19:13:12] <krbtgt|> ill check permissions on monolite once i get home[19:13:35] <waddlesplash> Skipp_OSX: jam -q UnitTester or something like that, idk[19:16:30] <owenca> humdinger ok[19:16:53] <humdinger> owenca: and he already commented.[19:17:58] <SteveH2013> I may be getting stuck then because I'm at a higher hrev than you and that messed up the mono pthread config because I'm at x86 on the setarch and configure.ac has the matching 2 lines referencing pthreads[19:19:23] <krbtgt|> .congure should say TLS is pthreads[19:19:31] <krbtgt|> argh this wireless lag[19:24:31] <tsundoku> anyone know how to mount nfs3 or nfs4 in Haiku? all I can find in web searches are outdated mailing list threads from when it was broken[19:24:31] <owenca> humdinger done[19:25:38] <humdinger> owenca: cool. let's have PulkoMandy merge it. he did all the reviewing work :)[19:25:58] <humdinger> tsundoku: I do that with: mount -t nfs4 -p "192.168.178.3:volume1" /DiskStation[19:26:00] <krbtgt|> tsundoku: mount_nfs[19:26:03] <krbtgt|> it worked for my nfsv4 server[19:26:08] <tsundoku> doesn't work for me[19:26:11] <tsundoku> it mounts but it shows empty[19:26:15] <owenca> humdinger sure[19:26:27] <SteveH2013> Calvin, here's a snapshot of my settings: https://www.sendspace.com/file/dtptk5[19:26:39] <tsundoku> tried the way mentioned above by humdinger but I get "Permission denied"[19:27:00] <humdinger> owenca: that was good work! never gave up. :)[19:27:14] <krbtgt|> my mobile ssh client doesnt have tappable links[19:27:19] <krbtgt|> so yeah, gotta wait[19:27:23] <owenca> humdinger thx[19:27:39] <humdinger> tsundoku: my NAS may be be insecurely set up. But I have it isolated from the internet, so I don't care too much...[19:27:48] <SteveH2013> Calvin, you have hands, right? ;-)[19:28:01] <owenca> humdinger that's why i am not a fan of gci. too much time pressure[19:28:36] <tsundoku> define "insecurely set up"[19:28:42] <tsundoku> I'm dealing with something very basic too[19:28:42] <owenca> is there a radio group control? i only found BRadioButton[19:28:45] <humdinger> owenca: right. it's too much of a race. for a t-shirt for almost everyone, no less... :)[19:29:03] <tsundoku> just system-level security with access allowed to an IP range of which my Haiku box is a part[19:29:38] <humdinger> owenca: what else is a radio control?[19:29:43] <krbtgt|> teim almost home at this point[19:29:59] <SteveH2013> gotta go. I'm going to look back at the hrevs and see where any pthread changes occurred (unless some kind soul here knows already)[19:30:28] <owenca> humdinger i meant a control that i can use to program a group of radio buttons[19:30:54] <owenca> with BRadioButton, i have to program them individually[19:31:20] <tsundoku> how do you specify the uid and gid for mount -t nfs4?[19:31:59] <owenca> can you point me to a good sample code that uses BRadioButton? that is, if there is no radio button group control[19:32:27] <tsundoku> trying to find a manpage or something for mount in Haiku but IO've got nothing so far[19:32:50] <owenca> humdinger this is for Filer btw[19:34:53] <miqlas-H64> owenca: why to use any radio_control thing? just use some strange (likely binary) configuration file, like /usr/share/somestrangeguywhatnobodycandecipher/itisnttheconfigurationfile.txt" Be careful: if it is a binary file, you need to use ".txt" as extension, and if it is an ascii text file, you should use ".dat" to make it clear for everybody that your swag level is over 9000.[19:35:12] *** SteveH2013 <SteveH2013!~vision@c-24-129-87-240.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[19:36:20] <owenca> because of https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Filer/issues/15[19:37:52] <humdinger> owenca: all I can think of ATM is Tracker's settings.[19:37:54] <humdinger> see http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/kits/tracker/SettingsViews.cpp[19:37:55] <miqlas-H64> owenca: do not forget to make it sure to use penty different whitespaces, and let your program die silently if it cannot parse your configure file.[19:39:53] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B150A3F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[19:40:02] <owenca> miqlas-H64i am sorry but i don't understand[19:40:49] <tojoko> hi owenca what was the question, pl.?[19:41:34] <owenca> is there a group control for a group of BRadioButtons?[19:42:26] <owenca> humdinger so i guess the answer is no[19:43:00] <humdinger> looks like it. from the code of the Tracker settings and the Time prefs timezone view...[19:43:42] <owenca> i am surprised because BRadioButton objects always come in 2 or more in a group[19:43:46] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@209.181.88.61> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:43:58] <owenca> unlike a checkbox[19:44:12] <tojoko> owenca, can't u build one your own? isn'T that a standard design pattern?[19:44:52] <owenca> i believe Java and other gui system have it[19:44:58] <owenca> it seems so basic[19:45:51] <humdinger> https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/api/classBRadioButton.html#details[19:46:01] <humdinger> It reads like they are grouped...[19:46:42] <humdinger> grouped by a BView apparently[19:47:02] <owenca> i saw it but you have to write code to accomplish it[19:47:17] <humdinger> yes. "it's up to you to determine what action takes place when each radio button is selected, if any. The message is sent only when a radio button is turned on, not when it is turned off."[19:48:12] <owenca> i read that too. i guess there is no simpler way[19:49:08] <owenca> i asked because Skipp_OSX pointed me to StripeView.h, which is hidden in private[19:49:47] <tojoko> well, life is gettin' thougher n thougher.[19:50:15] <owenca> anyway i will take a look at SettingsViews.cpp and go from there[19:51:21] <owenca> i need to study for a big physics test for tomorrow. taking the rest day off school to just do that but ended up doing haiku for the last couple of hours[19:51:47] <owenca> cu[19:52:09] <tojoko> owenca, congratulations! :)[19:52:16] <humdinger> good luck with that owenca![19:52:22] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has left #haiku[19:52:23] <tojoko> that's my girl! :)[19:53:40] <miqlas-H64> owenca: do not care, i hacked haiku instead of learning for my colloquium at the university[19:54:13] <tojoko> hej miqlas-H64, great idea - could be one of mine! - but how did it turn out?[19:54:26] <miqlas-H64> humdinger: how would you translate abitur to english?[19:54:56] <humdinger> dunno. I go to http://leo.org :)[19:54:57] <miqlas-H64> tojoko:i got 4. 5 is the best in Hungary.[19:55:14] <miqlas-H64> then i was drunk.[19:55:21] <humdinger> owenca: handling radio buttons manually isn't that terrible, I think.[19:55:23] <miqlas-H64> i cannot remember too much.[19:55:59] <miqlas-H64> humdinger: thx[19:56:10] <humdinger> owenca: every radio button sends a different message and in MessageReceived() you always set the other buttons to "off" and set the new setting.[19:56:28] <miqlas-H64> for my university-entrance diploma i just went to the pub. I was still drunk at the exam.[19:57:04] <miqlas-H64> tojoko: i do not wish that experience for anybody. I got 4.[19:57:38] <miqlas-H64> but i woked up at 3'o clock to clean up the mess at that day.[20:01:08] <miqlas-H64> and it happend because my classmate told me, oh, just drink a beer, everything will be allright. And there was 5l wine[20:01:37] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[20:02:53] *** jessicah <jessicah!uid33885@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hydynryeysyivqog> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:05:50] <humdinger> owenca: even better, the other radio buttons are turned of for you. Say the BeBook: "However, when the user turns a button on, the BRadioButton object turns off all sibling BRadioButtons—that is, all BRadioButtons that have the same parent as the one that was turned on."[20:08:21] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85a629.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[20:09:11] <tsundoku> > The code is biased towards English. International character sets are not handled gracefully here.[20:09:15] <tsundoku> should havek nown[20:09:20] <tsundoku> re: MboxToBeMail[20:09:48] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@2001:470:1f07:238:1e6f:65ff:fed3:eba8> has joined #haiku[20:10:28] *** jua_ <jua_!~jua@xdsl-89-0-250-124.netcologne.de> has joined #haiku[20:10:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jua_[20:12:10] <waddlesplash> tsundoku: patches accepted. :)[20:13:38] <tsundoku> yeah, I'm trying to make it work[20:13:56] <tsundoku> I don't really use perl so it might take a while[20:14:13] <tsundoku> as it stands I don't get any output at all even if I set the locale to C[20:15:15] <miqlas-H64> waddlesplash: fixed the recipe[20:16:42] <miqlas-H64> waddlesplash: you? on IRC? what happend?[20:16:53] <waddlesplash> miqlas-H64: k[20:17:07] <miqlas-H64> waddlesplash: j[20:18:21] *** King_Warg <King_Warg!~Wildman@50.110.119.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[20:18:49] *** King_Warg <King_Warg!~Wildman@50.110.102.38> has joined #haiku[20:22:06] <tsundoku> I think it just didn't like something about this specific mailbox[20:22:13] <tsundoku> it's working on others[20:22:26] <tsundoku> the real test, though, will be seeing if BeMail detects these message files and doesn't try to download them from the IMAP server[20:26:27] *** moochris <moochris!~vision@cpc83559-brig19-2-0-cust1937.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haiku[20:28:47] <miqlas-H64> tsundoku: does it called as "beMail" somewhere?[20:28:58] <tsundoku> ?[20:29:39] <miqlas-H64> i mean it is Mail or HaikuMail, but not BeMail anymore.[20:30:07] <tsundoku> the script was written in 1998.[20:30:19] <tsundoku> and they're supposed to be interchangeable.[20:30:44] <miqlas-H64> ok, clear[20:32:37] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@tmo-102-77.customers.d1-online.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:43:39] *** _moochris <_moochris!~vision@cpc83559-brig19-2-0-cust1937.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haiku[20:43:39] *** moochris <moochris!~vision@cpc83559-brig19-2-0-cust1937.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:43:39] *** _moochris is now known as moochris[20:47:43] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0a53269d8b14...d2b067612aed[20:47:44] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli d2b0676 - nano: bump version.[20:48:15] <AndrewZ> hi miqlas[20:50:54] *** jessicah <jessicah!uid33885@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gnbwivrxtrkghrjh> has joined #haiku[20:50:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah[20:51:55] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-184-029.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[20:51:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[21:01:07] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!b207929e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.7.146.158> has joined #haiku[21:08:23] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iidjdahudvddzpjs> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[21:08:59] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[21:18:29] *** moochris <moochris!~vision@cpc83559-brig19-2-0-cust1937.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[21:21:31] *** cmkatt <cmkatt!~AndChat41@181.141.128.125> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:07:37] *** cdesai <cdesai!~cd@cyanogenmod/maintainer/cdesai> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:08:23] *** developerhdf <developerhdf!~developer@41.223.119.45> has joined #haiku[22:09:01] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p2003005B443F3D00022314FFFEAF6410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)[22:10:17] *** cdesai <cdesai!~cd@cyanogenmod/maintainer/cdesai> has joined #haiku[22:10:45] *** The_Noz <The_Noz!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving http://bbsweb.mozysswamp.org)[22:11:04] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[22:15:44] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!b207929e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.7.146.158> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:16:54] <Begas_VB> waddlesplash ... ./src/common/sizer.cpp(2091): assert "!(flags & (wxALIGN_RIGHT | wxALIGN_CENTRE_HORIZONTAL))" failed in DoInsert(): Horizontal alignment flags are ignored with wxEXPAND[22:17:19] <Begas_VB> builds (scummvm-tools) and doesn't really crash, but no gui yet :)[22:17:33] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:17:40] <Begas_VB> bbl :)[22:17:51] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[22:17:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[22:24:03] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@bfh21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[22:24:13] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@bfh21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:31:56] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d2b067612aed...673dbcad171f[22:31:57] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 673dbca - libpcap: fix crash on interface listing.[22:34:25] *** developerhdf <developerhdf!~developer@41.223.119.45> has left #haiku[23:01:07] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:01:22] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[23:01:27] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:01:47] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[23:01:59] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:05:06] <stargater> haiku developers around? have the problem too? https://github.com/evalEmpire/y2038/wiki[23:05:09] <stargater> ?[23:05:34] <stargater> when yes, then need we fix it befor r1 release[23:06:18] <krbtgt|> be API compat fucks with it on x86 but iirc amd64 is 64-bit?[23:06:22] * krbtgt| talks oout of ass[23:13:25] <stargater> i found a test perl script http://pastebin.com/VSixbcvs[23:13:40] <stargater> uha my linux have this bug :-)[23:15:40] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-184-029.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[23:16:44] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:17:13] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:22:41] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[23:25:30] <stargater> here a c app http://pastebin.com/d6ehgQGH[23:27:27] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:36:24] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:36:40] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[23:49:52] *** Begas_VB <Begas_VB!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:53:09] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[23:54:59] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.46.225.143> has joined #haiku[23:55:22] <BrunoSpr> hi all... just tried the SoftwareUpdater and updated to hrev50970... anyone knows how to use it?[23:57:29] <BrunoSpr> Does it belong to the lauch folder? Or do you use it like a common app only? Will it be able to go back to older installs?