February 22, 2017 
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February 22, 2017 [00:21:16] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:27:14] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[00:28:11] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@79.119.112.145> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[00:28:19] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[00:38:23] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cappxkqvsdwoykzi> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:42:02] *** Alam_Lenny <Alam_Lenny!quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has joined #haiku[00:44:55] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@2001:470:1f07:238:1e6f:65ff:fed3:eba8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:57:16] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:58:42] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-052-218.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[00:58:51] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@bcdf1df9.skybroadband.com> has joined #haiku[01:02:28] *** AD_MOS <AD_MOS!~JohnN@bcdf1df9.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:03:07] *** AD_MOS <AD_MOS!~JohnN@bcdf1df9.skybroadband.com> has joined #haiku[01:05:58] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@bcdf1df9.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:06:29] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-adwivmxnmorliohh> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:21:28] <stargater> uh is this deco in haiku too? http://akiba-pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/ah/docs/1036/348/tbeos6.jpg[01:22:42] <krbtgt|> just the Haiku default and an R5 imitation[01:23:29] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-124-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:25:06] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-124-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[01:30:05] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-124-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[01:34:29] <stargater> hmm, ok thx[01:46:35] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:46:51] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[01:51:33] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[01:52:03] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:54:56] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[02:02:09] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[02:04:30] *** ADS_Sr <ADS_Sr!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:04:52] *** ADS_Sr <ADS_Sr!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[02:07:12] *** xcor <xcor!~xcor@2a02:c7d:c23:f700:999d:73e8:71af:f5d1> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[02:09:39] *** xcor <xcor!~xcor@2a02:c7d:c23:f700:999d:73e8:71af:f5d1> has joined #haiku[02:11:02] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@190.55.158.86> has joined #haiku[02:55:02] *** pebble` <pebble`!~pebble@unaffiliated/espiral> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:57:08] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9ffdc.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[03:04:07] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-126-120-228.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[03:04:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[03:36:09] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[03:41:02] * King_Warg1 blinks[03:41:12] *** King_Warg1 is now known as King_Warg[03:57:29] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-istpeooviwidsryq> has joined #haiku[03:57:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[04:01:32] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cwquptsfgxplbpwj> has joined #haiku[04:06:55] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@190.55.158.86> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[04:27:10] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev50971 [6 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e4e6315ff434+%5E85566e032db4[04:27:11] <HAIKU-irker458> 388ac82baa14: BString: Add IStartsWith() and IEndsWith() methods[04:27:12] <HAIKU-irker458> 1eed6ef172aa: BString docs: document IStartsWith() and IEndsWith()[04:27:13] <HAIKU-irker458> 17a413473334: StringSearchTest: automatic whitespace cleanup[04:27:14] <HAIKU-irker458> dc0b0016ada1: StringSearchTest: Add unit tests for new methods[04:27:16] <HAIKU-irker458> cc04d41c8718: BString: Use safestr() to prevent strlen(NULL)[04:27:16] <HAIKU-irker458> e4e6315ff434: PackageInstaller: Use newly created BString::IEndsWith()[04:33:16] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-126-120-228.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[04:38:40] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@cpe-70-117-73-112.austin.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[04:38:49] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@cpe-70-117-73-112.austin.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:52:34] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3336 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3336 blamelist: John Scipione <jscipione at gmail dot com>[04:56:37] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3476 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/3476 blamelist: John Scipione <jscipione at gmail dot com>[05:03:43] *** Barrett__ <Barrett__!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Quit: Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?)[05:09:33] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B1511B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[05:18:57] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-126-120-228.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[05:18:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[05:32:36] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B1511B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:49:02] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-126-120-228.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[06:24:04] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[06:25:10] <owenca> is there a library function that checks if a file exists in a directory?[06:26:38] <owenca> something like this: bool FileExistsInDirectory(const BEntry& file, const BEntry& dir);[06:30:22] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[06:37:49] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[06:45:25] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[07:12:43] <PulkoMandy> owenca: BEntry.Exists()[07:15:10] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[07:21:08] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@dsl-208-102-76-90.fuse.net> has joined #haiku[07:21:33] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@dsl-208-102-76-90.fuse.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:24:34] <owenca> PulkoMandy sorry i wasn't clear. i meant checking if the leaf name of "file" exists in "dir"[07:25:12] <PulkoMandy> BEntry(directory, name).Exists() ?[07:25:40] <owenca> basically if a file in one directory exists in another directory[07:26:17] <PulkoMandy> mh, that makes no sense, do you mean a file with the same name? same contents? both?[07:27:39] <owenca> it's for a Filer/AutoFiler enhancement requested by humdinger[07:27:42] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[07:28:19] <owenca> when copying/moving a file to another directory, we need to check if the same file name exists[07:29:37] <owenca> hence the prototype: bool FileExistsInDirectory(const BEntry& file, const BEntry& dir)[07:29:59] <PulkoMandy> ok, in that case: BEntry(DestinationDir, SourceFile.Name()).Exists() or something like that[07:30:24] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:30:33] <PulkoMandy> and it's time for me to go to work[07:30:40] <owenca> thx[07:31:15] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[07:36:14] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:49:42] <stargate1> moin[07:51:24] <stargate1> PulkoMandy: a question, why is gnuplot only for x86_64? and why add the nice GUI App for gnuplot (haikuplot) to pkg list?[07:52:01] <stargate1> https://github.com/HaikuArchives/HaikuPlot[07:52:27] <stargate1> https://depot.haiku-os.org/#/?bcguid=bc1-GSUN&repos=besly,fatelk,haikuports,clasqm&arch=x86_64&viewcrttyp=FEATURED&srchexpr=gnuplot[07:55:33] *** stargate1 is now known as stargater[08:02:56] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/00ee0cb83a6d...e46e5d1c63d2[08:02:57] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus e46e5d1 - edgar: bump version (#1161)[08:08:19] <korli> stargater: to answer your question, x86_64 was updated with the master state of Haikuports (snapshot 01.01.2017), and gnuplot was added a little before[08:08:23] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cwquptsfgxplbpwj> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[08:08:31] <korli> stargater: http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/build/jam/repositories/HaikuPorts/x86_64?id=534a5376408728ae93c6d6f976e961c5bf066dfe[08:08:38] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85711b.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:08:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:10:05] <korli> I mean, added for x86_64[08:11:37] <stargater> korli: yes i see not for x86_gcc2 and x86[08:12:11] <stargater> and haikuport are a recipe i found https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/haiku-apps/haikuplot/haikuplot-1.0.1.recipe[08:12:20] <stargater> its missing[08:13:15] <stargater> can you or other this fix als add to repro for comming releases? gnuplot is a nice tool for educations[08:13:16] <korli> yeah x86_gcc2 is updated following the release branch, which is opt-in[08:14:36] <korli> about haikuplot, x86_64 isn't enabled on the recipe, so it won't get in the depot[08:15:23] <korli> stargater: you can send a PR against the release branch if you wish[08:22:05] <stargater> i think gnupolt need qt for the plot view and need gcc5[08:22:47] <stargater> its better when haiku have one compiler and one arch[08:23:43] <stargater> i like openbsd os version/arch -> port[08:24:20] <stargater> and a good defaults in the base[08:26:10] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e46e5d1c63d2...5834fff76a64[08:26:12] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 5834fff - sdl_net: bump revision.[08:29:20] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5834fff76a64...5469d04f36b7[08:29:21] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 5469d04 - unknown_horizons: bump revision.[08:30:45] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5469d04f36b7...d258a311c68f[08:30:46] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli d258a31 - texinfo: bump revision.[08:32:24] <stargater> https://upspin.io/[08:45:55] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/8a55b869dd1e...4e1db7f51759[08:45:57] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb 4e1db7f - New blog post "Building packages with haikuporter"[08:55:55] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74936.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[08:55:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:00:58] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-124-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[09:01:03] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-218-107.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[09:01:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[09:02:07] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85711b.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[09:11:01] <korli> weird, can't see humdinger's blog post on the website[09:23:17] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[09:41:53] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B1511B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:53:14] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B1511B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:08:34] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-istpeooviwidsryq> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[10:09:09] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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Corrections to blog post[14:26:58] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~MattLacey@CPE-120-147-195-43.gdiv2.lon.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:30:48] *** ClaudioM <ClaudioM!~ClaudioM@168.221.158.55> has joined #haiku[14:35:58] *** maywork <maywork!~meiryo@131.94.186.143> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:36:42] *** maywork <maywork!~meiryo@131.94.186.143> has joined #haiku[14:37:24] *** maywork <maywork!~meiryo@131.94.186.143> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:37:42] *** maywork <maywork!~meiryo@131.94.186.143> has joined #haiku[14:37:53] *** aleonard <aleonard!~aleonard@2607:fad8:4:6:bb40:5ef0:ddf0:30fa> has joined #haiku[14:51:59] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-10-123.moscow.rt.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[14:54:08] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-10-123.moscow.rt.ru> has joined #haiku[15:00:45] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85711b.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[15:11:54] <Dane__> Guten morgen[15:13:22] *** [JJ]Albert__ <[JJ]Albert__!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has joined #haiku[15:13:29] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-218-107.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:16:20] *** [JJ]Albert_ <[JJ]Albert_!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:21:32] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-qkevlhmxkoiuodnp> has joined #haiku[15:22:49] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[15:22:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[15:49:24] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@79.119.112.145> has joined #haiku[15:58:06] <HaikuUser> hi. is there a way to install bootman on the latest development build? i can't find it in the depos[15:58:10] *** HaikuUser is now known as robcsi[16:00:10] <tojoko> robcsi, yes, of course. But it ain't called bootman anymore, that is what it makes confusin'.[16:00:21] <tojoko> just type bootmanager in the bash.[16:00:57] <robcsi> tojoko, command not found[16:01:23] *** [JJ]Albert__ <[JJ]Albert__!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:01:26] <tojoko> robcsi, boot + <tab> - how old are u? :)[16:01:44] *** [JJ]Albert__ <[JJ]Albert__!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has joined #haiku[16:01:54] <tojoko> maybe its bootManager or Bootmanager, i don't know.[16:03:13] <robcsi> tojoko, BootManager is the name. boot+<tab> didn't find it, tried that already[16:03:34] <robcsi> tojoko, and how old are you?[16:04:21] <tojoko> robcsi, well, nice to hear that i'm not the only one who get's confused. I'm 27 years old by now and for already several years. I think i will stick with that. :)[16:06:52] <robcsi> tojoko, yes, you're not alone, and it's good to have a responsive community, who helps ;). 34, here. thanks[16:11:48] <tojoko> robcsi, and where u from? europe or america?[16:13:09] <stargate1> https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/applications/bootmanager.html[16:13:25] <stargate1> BootManager[16:15:39] <tojoko> stargate1, thanks a lot, but the only thing there is left to tell for me is, why ain't it called bootman anymore!? or why isn't there at least an link from bootman to bootmanger. or an error message, did you mean BootManger!?[16:16:26] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A2930E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[16:16:50] <robcsi> tojoko, Europe[16:18:59] <tojoko> robcsi, nice to hear.[16:19:04] <robcsi> stargate1, that's exactly what led me to my question, too[16:20:27] <stargate1> robcsi: i dont know, i like the name bootman too[16:20:55] <stargate1> 150% IQ developer have renamed? i think[16:21:36] <stargate1> robcsi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootmanager[16:22:16] <tojoko> stargate1, well, i actually did think of copy right issues.[16:23:16] <tojoko> but either way a qualified error message for bootman shouldn't be a problem.[16:23:31] <robcsi> stargate1, cool, thanks. I was reading the discuss forums about dual booting, and that's how bootman came up, in an older question[16:23:46] <stargate1> tojoko: and of NameStyle for GUI Nativ APP'S[16:23:57] <stargate1> CamelCase[16:24:23] <stargate1> WebPositiv etc[16:24:35] <stargate1> PoorMan[16:25:32] *** robcsi <robcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[16:28:18] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@79.119.112.145> has joined #haiku[16:28:30] *** HaikuUser is now known as robcsi[16:28:40] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpin8gdpm7138bsy.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[16:31:21] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[16:37:53] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85711b.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:37:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[16:38:23] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zyagjtiobthlfmvg> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[16:44:35] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has joined #haiku[16:45:19] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-218-107.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[16:45:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[16:46:40] *** Alam_Lenny <Alam_Lenny!quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:47:16] *** fujisan <fujisan!~fujisan@unaffiliated/fujisan> has joined #haiku[16:48:23] *** [JJ]Albert__ <[JJ]Albert__!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:48:44] *** [JJ]Albert__ <[JJ]Albert__!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has joined #haiku[16:51:51] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Quit: Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?)[16:52:16] <tojoko> sorry, stargater, aber den Einwand hab ich jetzt net verstanden. Sind das alles Beispiele für Dinge, wo's falsch gemacht wurde!?[16:54:14] <Begasus> tojoko ... edgar ist jetzt im haikuporters tree, also kannst ein build machen mit haikuporter :)[16:56:02] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@static-89-1-31-30.netcologne.de> has joined #haiku[16:56:12] <Begasus> biab[16:56:20] *** Begasus is now known as Begas_afk[16:56:36] <tojoko> Begasus, danke für den hinweis, nur weiss ich leider weder wer edgar ist noch was ich damit soll ...[16:57:13] <tojoko> ... ach ja, ich wollte eigentlich nur wissen, wie man so builds erstellt, weil ich gerne einen für scala und hugs erstellen wollte, was glaube ich out of the box gehen muesste.[16:57:21] <humdinger> 100% a game. Begas_afk always does games... :)[16:57:23] <Begas_afk> dem link steht im recipe ;) (ist ein spiel) :)[16:57:37] <Begas_afk> right humdinger (and sometimes some libs) :)[16:57:48] <humdinger> that are used for games[16:58:00] <Begas_afk> right again ;)[16:58:04] <Begas_afk> off now ;)[16:58:12] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[16:58:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[16:58:18] <humdinger> tojoko: you're in luck wrt to building with haikuporter: https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/humdinger/2017-02-22_building_packages_with_haikuporter/[16:58:19] <humdinger> :)[17:00:16] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[17:02:12] *** pebble` <pebble`!~pebble@unaffiliated/espiral> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[17:02:20] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@static-89-1-31-30.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[17:04:04] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:05:16] *** pebble` <pebble`!~pebble@unaffiliated/espiral> has joined #haiku[17:07:16] <tojoko> humdinger, danke, ich habe mir das mal gespeichert. Aber ich checks net ganz. ich will eigentlich nur so ein rezept erstellen, dass ich einreichen kann, damit das HaikuDepot weiss, wie es scala und hugs beziehen kann / muss und kompilieren muss.[17:08:08] <humdinger> Recipes schreiben ist etwas schwieriger. Das wiki auf haikuports hat alle info. musste mal alles durchlesen... :)[17:08:51] <tojoko> ok, danke, dann aber nicht heute - wobei meine sehr einfach sind. ich dachte eine ev. kommentierte Vorlage von einem _einfachen_ Beispiel würde am meisten Sinn machen.[17:09:39] <humdinger> im haikuports tree sind wahrscheinlich 1000 rezepte als beispiele.[17:11:21] <tojoko> Die Frage ist, welches so simpel ist, wie meins.[17:12:47] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[17:13:00] <Vidrep> Hi[17:13:21] <humdinger> Hey Vidrep[17:13:39] <Vidrep> Good tutorial on HaikuPorter[17:13:53] <Vidrep> Clear and to the point[17:14:19] <humdinger> good. that was the intent :)[17:15:37] <Vidrep> There was some discussion about people wanting to build packages for upload to Depot, until the buildbots are ready[17:15:57] <humdinger> hmm... maybe I should add a point on how to update the haikuports tree and haikuporter itself.[17:16:33] <humdinger> Vidrep: that's not possible unless everyone gets write permissions to Haiku's repo.[17:16:43] <Vidrep> I'd gladly volunteer to do it gor gcc5h, but as it is now I do not have permissions to upload built packages[17:16:49] <humdinger> people could create a seperate repo though.[17:17:32] <Vidrep> Howwould a review process work?[17:18:03] <humdinger> a review of what package to upload?[17:18:14] <Vidrep> Or is it even needed? Either the package builds or it doesn't.[17:18:36] <humdinger> That was the idea of using HaikuDepot to rate packages.[17:18:47] *** pebble` <pebble`!~pebble@unaffiliated/espiral> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[17:19:05] <humdinger> things that build but don't work get downvoted and can be removed until fixed.[17:19:35] <Vidrep> We're talking about different things.[17:19:37] *** pebble` <pebble`!~pebble@unaffiliated/espiral> has joined #haiku[17:20:04] <Vidrep> However, since you brough that up...there are a few I know of that build but don't work :)[17:20:34] <humdinger> rate and comment :)[17:21:30] <Vidrep> What I was referring to was getting gcc5h package repository up to date[17:22:11] <Vidrep> There are a lot of packages that are not available in Depot yet, even though they build and work[17:22:12] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[17:22:43] <humdinger> I'm not even sure if the Haiku project plans to build x86 packages.[17:22:43] <Vidrep> I'm willing to spend the time to build them, but need a way to get them into Depot[17:22:53] <Vidrep> OK[17:22:54] <humdinger> official are only gcc2hybrid and 64 bits.[17:22:59] <Vidrep> Yes, I know[17:23:33] <humdinger> all you need is a server to host your HPKG. intoHaikuDepot it gets by adding your repo with the Repositories prefs[17:23:47] <Vidrep> If that's the case, then why make them available if no one is going to keep them current?[17:24:41] <Vidrep> I'm sure here's a logical explanation? PulkoMandy???[17:24:46] <Vidrep> there's[17:25:12] <humdinger> the one offering the repo has the honour of keeping things uptodate.[17:26:08] <humdinger> that's where buildbots come in.[17:26:39] <humdinger> would be nice if we could "outsource" the building of the haikuports repo.[17:26:56] <Vidrep> It's obvious that keeping four different x86 builds updated is too much for this project. That doesn't include ARM and PPC.[17:27:53] <humdinger> once someone deploys buildbots, the number of builds only depends on the number of bots and server space.[17:28:29] <Vidrep> I guess that's the last big hurdle[17:29:04] <humdinger> looks like with the migration of the website, we are nearing this goal.[17:29:19] <humdinger> aat least kallisti's latest efforst suggest progress.[17:29:34] <Vidrep> Yes, I was reading that[17:29:52] *** ClaudioM <ClaudioM!~ClaudioM@168.221.158.55> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:30:58] <Vidrep> Anyway, my thought was that I could do for gcc5h what korli is doing for x86_64, build and upload packages[17:31:52] <Vidrep> ...keep me off the street and out of trouble :D[17:33:37] <humdinger> Michel has a 64bit repo already. Maybe ou can ask him to create a gcc5 repo for you.[17:36:10] *** ClaudioM <ClaudioM!~ClaudioM@168.221.158.55> has joined #haiku[17:37:24] <Vidrep> I think Dario uploads ports to him too[17:41:23] *** [JJ]Albert__ <[JJ]Albert__!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:41:50] *** [JJ]Albert__ <[JJ]Albert__!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has joined #haiku[17:48:59] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@92.62.199.162> has joined #haiku[17:56:15] *** postmen <postmen!~tonio@p5B151CBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[18:00:18] <Begas_afk> tutorial on haikuporter .. looks I missed something ;)[18:00:18] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B1511B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[18:00:21] <Begas_afk> re[18:00:24] *** Begas_afk is now known as Begasus[18:01:06] <humdinger> wb Begasus[18:01:30] <Begasus> thanks humdinger .. is there a new tutorial online?[18:02:07] <humdinger> blogpost. but it only explains how to build a package with haikuporter.[18:02:13] <humdinger> you're apro ther alredy. :)[18:02:20] <Begasus> hehe :)[18:02:46] <humdinger> it's getting dark here. I should turn on the light to find my keys...[18:04:00] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@92.62.199.162> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[18:04:20] <Begasus> In the haikuports tree, you search the recipe of the software you’d like to build. You can also use, e.g. "haikuporter -o artpaint" to have haikuporter look for a specific recipe, here for “ArtPaint”.[18:04:36] <Begasus> I'm using hp -s here ;)[18:05:44] <humdinger> so you can ALT-click it to open.[18:06:05] <humdinger> or SHFT-ALT click on the parent folder to open the folder containing the recipe[18:06:44] <humdinger> (personally, I use a function "findrecipe", but that would've complicated the blog post)[18:06:58] <humdinger> hp -s artpaint[18:06:59] <humdinger> haiku-apps::artpaint[18:06:59] <humdinger> haiku-apps::artpaint_x86[18:07:10] <humdinger> not as convenient[18:07:57] <Begasus> haikuporter artpaint -c .. in this case I use hp -c artpaint (not sure if it makes a diff) otherwise a good writing! (y)[18:08:15] *** robcsi <robcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:08:41] <humdinger> doesn't make a diff, but I can't expect people actually added the "hp" alias.[18:09:05] <Begasus> ah k :)[18:09:39] <humdinger> I do wonder why on the front page the HTML of the post is ignored. (newlines etc.)[18:10:49] <Vidrep> I never created an alias. I just copy paste the whole command from a StyledEdit doc where I save common CLI commands[18:11:19] <humdinger> you should try it. aliases are nice.[18:11:24] <Vidrep> humdinger will suggest that I use Clipdinger for that :)[18:11:37] <humdinger> I also have a "yt" alias that makes youtube-dl convenient to use.[18:11:44] <humdinger> that too :)[18:12:46] <Begasus> lol![18:15:10] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[18:15:59] <mmu_man> yt is for yellowTAB :P[18:16:42] *** [JJ]Albert__ is now known as [JJ]Albert[18:16:53] <humdinger> and then mmu_man comes along and excavates a long supressed memory...[18:17:53] <mmu_man> :)[18:18:03] <humdinger> It's a shame that brilliant BeOS/Haiku related word is so tainted.[18:19:48] <Vidrep> bbl[18:19:50] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[18:20:52] * humdinger is idle: dinner[18:25:35] <Begasus> well ... we are still around (through all versions that passed along the way) :)[18:38:58] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:40:56] <Begasus> k .. pups pictures posted on FB (now 4 weeks) ... time for Haiku again :)[18:42:38] *** Begas_VM <Begas_VM!~Begasus@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[18:45:18] *** Begas_VM <Begas_VM!~Begasus@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:45:27] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has joined #haiku[18:46:49] <Begasus> 'lo bbjimmy[18:47:18] <bbjimmy> Good morning[18:49:03] <Begasus> good evening :)[18:49:16] <Begasus> almost 7PM here*[18:49:54] *** Begas_VM <Begas_VM!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[18:50:20] *** PulkoMandy <PulkoMandy!~pulkomand@aus31-1-78-207-239-160.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:50:48] *** PulkoMandy <PulkoMandy!~pulkomand@aus31-1-78-207-239-160.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[18:51:34] <bbjimmy> Wednesday, the Twenty-second of February, 2017, Ten to ten AM.[18:52:38] <bbjimmy> Time is always a relative concept.[18:52:53] <Begasus> in terms of Internet it is[18:53:19] <Begasus> where do you live bbjimmy?[18:53:33] <bbjimmy> Oregon USA[18:54:18] <Begasus> west coast? not to familiar with the USA time zones*[18:54:56] <bbjimmy> Pacific time ... the same time as Los Angeles and Seatle[18:55:11] <Begasus> ah k ... :)[18:55:16] <DHowett> woo seattle woo[18:56:23] <bbjimmy> I'm on the Southern Oregon coast about 80 miles from the California boarder.[18:57:59] <humdinger> grunge... man![18:58:00] <stargate1> oh california ....californiacation[18:58:02] * humdinger has returned[18:58:30] <bbjimmy> I was born there.[18:59:03] <Begas_VM> you've lived it, we only seen it in movies ;)[18:59:30] <humdinger> PulkoMandy (or anone): You think it's OK to add a "addAppletDeskbarSymlink" to haikuporter, see: http://sprunge.us/McAG[18:59:47] <bbjimmy> I escaped from the traffic and rat-race about 25 years ago.[19:01:47] <stargate1> why have the blog post on the last line -> Error Embedding[19:01:58] <stargate1> on haiku-os.org[19:03:03] <humdinger> looks OK over here...[19:04:53] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: sounds ok (the symlink thing) but if we are going to add more I would maybe switch to "addDeskbarSymlink App ..." rather than "addAppDeskbarSymlink"[19:05:10] <PulkoMandy> (possibly because I can't remember and always try to use addDeskbarAppSymlink or some variant)[19:06:53] <humdinger> Let's see if there pop up other candidates (I doubt it). Otherwise people may link all kinds of locations into the Deskbar...[19:09:49] *** aleonard <aleonard!~aleonard@2607:fad8:4:6:bb40:5ef0:ddf0:30fa> has left #haiku ("Leaving")[19:12:02] *** jua_ <jua_!~jua@xdsl-213-168-64-227.netcologne.de> has joined #haiku[19:12:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jua_[19:12:07] <stargate1> humdinger: https://www.pic-upload.de/view-32729879/page.png.html[19:12:51] *** cebulon <cebulon!~vision@pD957BBC6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[19:12:53] *** [JJ]Albert <[JJ]Albert!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:12:57] *** PulkoMandy <PulkoMandy!~pulkomand@aus31-1-78-207-239-160.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:13:14] *** [JJ]Albert <[JJ]Albert!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has joined #haiku[19:14:06] *** PulkoMandy <PulkoMandy!~pulkomand@aus31-1-78-207-239-160.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:14:47] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@92.62.199.162> has joined #haiku[19:16:51] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/b864a691a1cd...8a6076e696c0[19:16:53] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] humdingerb 8a6076e - Add a addAppletDeskbarSymlink function[19:18:19] *** pdziepak <pdziepak!~pdziepak@88.98.221.225> has joined #haiku[19:18:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o pdziepak[19:20:53] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: I think there were plans for an option to show categories in DeskBar, but that was never completed[19:21:22] <humdinger> yeah. maybe with R2... :)[19:24:12] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74936.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:24:16] *** fujisan <fujisan!~fujisan@unaffiliated/fujisan> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[19:25:21] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@92.62.199.162> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[19:26:06] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d258a311c68f...4eb323b21df4[19:26:08] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb 4eb323b - WebWatch: Link to "Desktop applets"[19:29:15] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:29:20] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:33:08] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p2003005B443F3D00022314FFFEAF6410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)[19:33:56] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@37.250.29.153.bredband.tre.se> has joined #haiku[19:33:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[19:39:46] <Begas_VM> humdinger ... some things for haikuporter I find interesting too :) "haikuporter -F" and "haikuporter -b" :)[19:40:49] <humdinger> never used -F myself...[19:41:48] <Begas_VM> it could be handy if the build itself is ok, but you need some final changes in the recipe that don't effect the build itself[19:42:26] *** maywork <maywork!~meiryo@131.94.186.143> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:43:34] <humdinger> Ah. so that repackages but doesn't rebuild the app?[19:45:10] <Begas_VM> yep, for instance if you want to add the mime types to it it could be handy[19:45:14] <Begas_VM> ps ...[19:45:20] <Begas_VM> problem 1: nothing provides lib:libsdl_net_x86 needed by rocksndiamonds_x86-4.0.0.1-1[19:45:20] <Begas_VM> solution 1:[19:45:21] <Begas_VM> - do not install "pkg:rocksndiamonds_x86-4.0.0.1-1-x86_gcc2"[19:45:38] <Begas_VM> what's up with sdl_net?[19:46:39] <PulkoMandy> probably I fixed some provides[19:47:29] <PulkoMandy> yes[19:47:40] <PulkoMandy> package contents: libSDL_net-1.2.so.0.8.0[19:47:51] <PulkoMandy> hence the correct provide is: provides: lib:libsdl_net_1.2_x86 = 0.8.0 (compatible >= 1.2)[19:48:06] <PulkoMandy> and the bogus provides: lib:libsdl_net_x86 = 1.2_0.8.0 (compatible >= 1.2_0) is removed[19:48:12] <PulkoMandy> because the package does not actually provide that file[19:50:02] <Begas_VM> checking ...[20:00:41] *** [JJ]Albert_ <[JJ]Albert_!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has joined #haiku[20:03:07] *** cdesai <cdesai!~cd@cyanogenmod/maintainer/cdesai> has joined #haiku[20:03:40] *** [JJ]Albert <[JJ]Albert!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:04:09] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[20:07:39] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:08:11] *** [JJ]Albert__ <[JJ]Albert__!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has joined #haiku[20:11:20] *** [JJ]Albert_ <[JJ]Albert_!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:13:57] *** cdesai <cdesai!~cd@cyanogenmod/maintainer/cdesai> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:14:17] *** cdesai <cdesai!~cd@cyanogenmod/maintainer/cdesai> has joined #haiku[20:14:48] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@79.119.112.145> has joined #haiku[20:15:07] *** HaikuUser is now known as robcsi[20:15:35] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A2930E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[20:18:06] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@5.224.222.179> has joined #haiku[20:22:22] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-194-178.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[20:22:23] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/21cb3e31f3a5...1755e4229020[20:22:25] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb 1755e42 - Changes to blog post[20:23:02] *** ajh <ajh!~manjaro-i@2602:304:cc61:200:97f8:a57b:e3fa:4706> has joined #haiku[20:23:05] *** [JJ]Albert_ <[JJ]Albert_!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:1517:757b:6afb:afa9> has joined #haiku[20:24:52] *** js <js!~js@84-75-253-224.dclient.hispeed.ch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:26:19] <ajh> how are broadcom drivers in Haiku? I had a hell of a time getting wifi set up on linux[20:26:20] *** [JJ]Albert__ <[JJ]Albert__!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:d431:6b3e:99cf:6852> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:30:32] <humdinger> ajh: depends on the exact chipset.[20:30:34] <humdinger> see https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/wireless[20:34:03] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[20:34:17] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:34:37] <ajh> looks like it's not. thanks anyway[20:36:50] <robcsi> if Devices says that my video card is "Not implemented" on the Detailed page, it means it doesn't have a driver for it? (NVidia GT218M [NVS 3100M] is the type)[20:37:55] <Begas_VM> ok .. rocksndiamonds build and install again ..[20:38:24] <Begas_VM> but still the settings files are stored into ~/[20:41:46] *** ajh <ajh!~manjaro-i@2602:304:cc61:200:97f8:a57b:e3fa:4706> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[20:52:15] *** robcsi <robcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:55:40] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-194-178.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:56:37] *** cebulon <cebulon!~vision@pD957BBC6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[21:02:41] <miqlas> What happened with "pthread_attr_setinheritsched"? Haiku cannot resolve the symbol.[21:02:52] <miqlas> Where should it be? Isn't in libroot?[21:03:41] *** robcsi <robcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has joined #haiku[21:04:35] <miqlas> libshout cannot find the symbol: pthread_attr_setinheritsched. Tryed to rebuild it, but doesn't helps.[21:06:37] <krbtgt|> if you look in pthread.h, its probs in the #if 0 block[21:06:43] <krbtgt|> i.e: needs implementation[21:08:22] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #haiku[21:10:04] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-btcksblmlmuaocho> has joined #haiku[21:10:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[21:10:53] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/1755e4229020...a7ba7cab098a[21:10:55] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] waddlesplash a7ba7ca - _redirects: Attempt to canonicalize URLs.[21:16:55] *** robcsi <robcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[21:20:18] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kacper@89-65-138-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #haiku[21:21:52] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85711b.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[21:22:22] *** robcsi <robcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has joined #haiku[21:25:50] <robcsi> was there any answer regarding the NVidia driver, please? I had to close Vision, and lost previous conversations...[21:26:23] <waddlesplash> robcsi: there are chat logs, see channel topic[21:27:40] <Begas_VM> no answer on that one robcsi[21:28:07] <Begas_VM> 'lo waddlesplash[21:28:42] <waddlesplash> lo[21:29:19] <robcsi> waddlesplash, got it, thanks.[21:29:35] <robcsi> I'm having the same issue with the sound drivers, NVidia also...[21:31:56] <miqlas> robcsi: csekk dö ecselog.[21:32:30] <miqlas> https://echelog.com/logs/browse/haiku/1487718000[21:32:52] <Begas_VM> this looks ok to me ...[21:32:55] <miqlas> Begas_VM: looks really ugly[21:33:22] <robcsi> miqlas, checked[21:33:39] <miqlas> robcsi: kúl.[21:35:28] <Begas_VM> sorry miqlas ;)[21:35:39] *** Begas_VM is now known as Begas_VB[21:35:41] <Begas_VB> ;)[21:36:05] <Begas_VB> that didn't work also :/[21:36:19] *** rgb <rgb!8166fef9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.102.254.249> has joined #haiku[21:37:08] <miqlas> Begas_VB: : there is some kind of relativeLibDir and soem other predefined path. Check the hp wiki, you will find the list easily.[21:37:16] <miqlas> MAybe you can use one of them.[21:37:48] <Begas_VB> there used to be a patch that worked on the previous version, but that doesn't aply anymore miqlas[21:38:19] <Begas_VB> for one -lm and -lnetwork are no dealbreaker anymore also[21:38:37] <Begas_VB> make sdl RO_GAME_DIR=$appsDir/"Rocks"n"Diamonds" RW_GAME_DIR=$settingsDir/rocksndiamonds[21:38:46] <Begas_VB> using that one to check out atm ...[21:46:16] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/a7ba7cab098a...c01922fcbc75[21:46:17] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] waddlesplash c01922f - _redirects: Fix canonicalization.[21:57:55] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:01:10] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kacper@89-65-138-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: KapiX)[22:02:09] *** robcsi <robcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[22:07:33] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[22:10:33] <waddlesplash> oh hey[22:10:41] <waddlesplash> there's a wxQt branch with more fixes to it ...[22:10:43] <waddlesplash> I should use that[22:14:44] <Begas_VB> no luck here (yet) with wxQt (and scummvm-tools) waddlesplash .. it builds but crashes when trying to launch it[22:14:56] <waddlesplash> Begas_VB: yep, I found a new branch that might fix thei ssue[22:15:04] <waddlesplash> I probably shouldn't use it[22:15:06] <waddlesplash> but, screw that[22:16:26] <Begas_VB> let me know if you have something new to try out (the build for wxqt takes about +2 hours here in virtualbox ... so needs some time) :)[22:17:38] <waddlesplash> yeah same[22:18:14] *** ClaudioM <ClaudioM!~ClaudioM@168.221.158.55> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:19:51] *** tsundoku is now known as tsun|w[22:23:24] *** postmen <postmen!~tonio@p5B151CBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:25:13] *** robcsi <robcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has joined #haiku[22:25:13] *** tsundoku <tsundoku!~tsundoku@irc.tsundoku.ne.jp> has joined #haiku[22:28:16] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 3 commits to master [+5/-3/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4eb323b21df4...6467735d4575[22:28:18] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 17dc7cb - curl: bump version.[22:28:19] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 50973bf - imagemagick: bump version.[22:28:21] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 6467735 - lz5: new recipe.[22:29:09] *** Begas_VB <Begas_VB!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[22:31:43] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:38:54] *** js <js!~js@webkeks.org> has joined #haiku[22:38:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o js[22:50:51] *** robcsi <robcsi!~vision@79.119.112.145> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[22:51:44] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:51:57] <miqlas-H64> E! I pretty like mpd on Haiku: http://chunk.io/f/79907a51730244b2a2a05cb91905ab59[22:52:29] <miqlas> now with soundcloud support.[22:53:01] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@37.250.29.153.bredband.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[22:53:43] <jua_> But why would you want that if you could use SoundPlay instead :>[22:57:10] <miqlas> jua_: it have a database.[22:57:25] <jua_> so does BFS ;)[22:57:54] <miqlas> I like to have all my music at my hand. So i don't need to open new windows to dnd my files onto the music player[22:59:43] <miqlas> jua_: ofc, i could use Haiku's MusicCollection (or what the name of that thing), and just let BFS do the dirty work, but does it got smb, upnp and convert support?[23:00:25] <jua_> with SMB, you won't get adequate support for attributes and queries, no[23:00:32] <miqlas> and btw it doesn't have an entry in deskbar, it can work without window, and i already have some shortcuts to control it.[23:01:53] <miqlas-H64> jua_: i got these features with mpd: http://termbin.com/9wcx[23:02:55] <jua_> I know what mpd is :)[23:02:58] <miqlas-H64> And some features not enabled yet (no recipe for the supporting libs)[23:03:11] <jua_> but yeah, I just love SoundPlay too much to consider anything else ;)[23:04:00] <miqlas-H64> No, i mean, this is the features, what i enabled already in the mpd Haiku port. Ofc, you know, what it is. But i have some strange music format, what not supported yet in MediaPlayer.[23:05:04] <miqlas> but jua_ why should i use SoundPlay? It is old, closed source, looks ugly in Haiku, and actually it doesn't have BFS support afaik.[23:06:04] <jua_> Software doesn't rust, so it being old is no downside. It works as well as ever. And ugly in Haiku? From all I can tell, it looks just how it remember it from BeOS, how it should look.[23:06:26] <tsundoku> MediaPlayer should be good enough for me, but it crashes too much to be usable in its current state[23:06:41] <waddlesplash> that's mostly codecs fault I think[23:06:49] <waddlesplash> x64 MediaPlayer is better (newer FFmpeg)[23:07:16] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@77.79.212.94> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:07:18] <tsundoku> x64?[23:07:46] <miqlas> jua_: right, but it will not get any patches, any updates, support for any new formats. I have no idea, if it statically linked, or using the system media libs.[23:08:06] <miqlas> But my main point is: Not available on x86_64, so no Soundplay for me.[23:08:22] <jua_> Yeah, and for me that's one of the main reasons why I don't use x64 Haiku ;)[23:08:29] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@5.224.222.179> has quit IRC (Quit: arroyoc)[23:09:22] <miqlas> jua_: you can make an x86_64/x86 Haiku version, you know.[23:10:08] <miqlas> Hmmm... MediaPlayer cannot play my flac-s[23:10:47] * tsundoku uses 64-bit Haiku because it's the future and almost anything not available for it can simply be recompiled[23:11:00] <miqlas> tsundoku: me to[23:11:03] <tsundoku> MediaPlayer will play FLACs for me but it crashes on some of them[23:11:16] <tsundoku> it also crashes if I try to drag audio files into the playlist window[23:11:17] <miqlas> and i don't want to fight with lib and lib/x86 folders[23:11:33] <waddlesplash> tsundoku: second crash sounds like a trivial fix. submit bug report[23:11:55] <tsundoku> ok[23:12:01] <tsundoku> I need to begin sorting out that process[23:16:01] <tsundoku> well now I have a differnet problem. interesting[23:16:13] <tsundoku> it's not crashing when I add things to the playlist but I get silence during playback[23:16:25] <tsundoku> with "AudioProducer::_FillNextBuffer() - supplier error -> silence" showing up in the debugger[23:16:32] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:16:40] <tsundoku> that doesn't show up in the debug report I saved, though[23:17:01] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:19:14] <waddlesplash> Barrett: ^^ heard of this one?[23:22:49] <tsundoku> actually it appears I've completely lost sound on hrev50971. I had it in 50967 and before[23:24:30] <waddlesplash> only change in there that could even possibly affect it is an ACPI fix[23:24:35] <waddlesplash> but that looks pretty harmless[23:25:17] <tsundoku> hmm[23:25:25] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[23:25:37] <tsundoku> I'll try another machine just to be sure[23:28:03] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@apn-37-248-162-234.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #haiku[23:28:53] <Vidrep> I just got back home, booted Haiku, and went to Haiku-os.org. There's some kind of problem...[23:29:02] <Vidrep> Is it known?[23:30:03] <krbtgt|> webwatch was responsible for sound you dinguses![23:30:31] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: looks ok here[23:30:43] <tsundoku> krbtgt| haaaaha[23:30:45] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: there's a new font stack, so that changed[23:30:50] <waddlesplash> krbtgt|: LOL[23:33:15] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@67.219.230.145> has joined #haiku[23:33:37] <Vidrep> waddlesplash, it was OK 4 hours ago. Now all I get is the logo without any content[23:33:46] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: hit reload? works here.[23:33:58] <Vidrep> No updates or anything done. Just a reboot[23:34:38] <Vidrep> waddlesplash, where can i post a screenshot?[23:34:50] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: idk[23:34:55] <waddlesplash> imgur?[23:35:17] <tsundoku> on second thought, the other machine is a laptop, I can't get it to connect to wireless networks, and hooking it up to ethernet would require moving too much stuff[23:35:17] <Vidrep> First, I'll boot 64 bit to see if it's the same[23:35:21] <tsundoku> so I'll try that later[23:35:33] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:37:38] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[23:38:15] <Vidrep> waddlesplash, x86_64 is working using hrev50962. x86_gcc2 not working, using hrev50970. What changed?[23:38:39] <Vidrep> This is Web+ browser.[23:38:40] <tsundoku> what would be the best way to generate debug information for the audio issue? the specific error I get isn't saved in the debugreports[23:39:17] <Vidrep> I'll reboot back to x86_gcc2 and go to an earlier state to see if that makes a difference[23:39:23] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:39:26] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: it works for me here on x64 web+ and win10 firefox. So, not my problem, idk[23:39:50] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~MattLacey@CPE-120-147-195-43.gdiv2.lon.bigpond.net.au> has joined #haiku[23:41:48] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:42:03] <miqlas> need go to sleep.[23:42:05] <miqlas> bye[23:43:15] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpin8gdpm7138bsy.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[23:44:21] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[23:44:32] <Vidrep> Something is haywire[23:44:57] <Vidrep> Earlier state hrev50967 not working either, but only on x86_gcc2[23:45:03] *** pdziepak <pdziepak!~pdziepak@88.98.221.225> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:46:14] <Vidrep> I'll try another Haiku PC...[23:46:18] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:48:23] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[23:49:02] <Vidrep> Using another PC, with x86_gcc2 hrev50967, it doesn't display the haiku-os.org page eaither[23:49:24] <Vidrep> either[23:52:44] *** jua_ <jua_!~jua@xdsl-213-168-64-227.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[23:56:04] <tsundoku> I'm on x86_64 hrev50971 and see no issues with the website[23:56:05] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[23:57:06] <Vidrep> x86_64 works OK. It's x86_gcc2 that's not working