February 19, 2017 
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There are a way to restart the network services?[02:00:32] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[02:02:07] <Vidrep> _Dario_, yes, look here: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/11938[02:02:20] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[02:03:05] <Vidrep> comment 3 details how to reestablish your network connection[02:03:31] <Vidrep> You may add a comment, if you like[02:06:20] <bbjimmy> My Deskbar... http://coquillemartialarts.com/jim/Deskbar.png[02:10:50] <_Dario_> thank you Vidrep![02:11:14] <_Dario_> nice, bbjimmy[02:11:18] *** AmixAros <AmixAros!~Amix4@140.65.45.31.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:15:11] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has joined #haiku[02:28:34] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qomhyrtuqezdigbw> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:29:28] *** return0e 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<Begas_VM> moin johnny_b[08:30:32] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-194-178.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[08:39:15] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has joined #haiku[08:39:29] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85b5e6.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:39:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:53:21] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-194-178.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:01:07] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-124-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[09:06:33] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[09:07:27] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50960 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d54cb434e0c6+%5E2423ba84701f[09:07:28] <HAIKU-irker458> d54cb434e0c6: Layout fixes to Tracker's Get Info window[09:17:45] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3451 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/3451 blamelist: Humdinger <humdingerb at gmail dot com>[09:25:41] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85b5e6.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[09:36:17] *** Dane__ <Dane__!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[09:37:23] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has joined #haiku[09:37:23] *** HaikuUser is now known as Dane__[09:47:13] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[09:48:47] *** vegardw <vegardw!~vegardw@38.81-167-10.customer.lyse.net> has joined #haiku[09:49:00] *** vegardw <vegardw!~vegardw@38.81-167-10.customer.lyse.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:56:11] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3420 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/3420[10:31:49] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85b5e6.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[10:31:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[10:35:43] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9e2ee.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[10:36:35] <stargater> uhh no nato font more! bad[10:37:20] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has joined #haiku[10:44:42] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-197-111-122.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:44:57] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-198-234-216.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[10:44:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[10:45:44] <owenca> hi humdinger[10:45:59] <humdinger> hi owenca[10:46:30] *** Maylay]eee <Maylay]eee!~gren@24.50.233.135> has joined #haiku[10:46:32] <owenca> cannot find -lsqlite3[10:46:48] <humdinger> did you instll the _devel package?[10:46:49] <owenca> when building filer[10:46:59] <owenca> no. how?[10:47:34] <owenca> i just ran make in Filer/sources[10:47:34] <humdinger> If you use HaikuDepot enable the "Development packages" fromt he menu.[10:47:48] <humdinger> otherwise, pkgman install sqlite_devel[10:47:49] <owenca> i did[10:47:50] <humdinger> should do it[10:48:31] <humdinger> Do a "pkgman search sqlite"[10:48:40] <humdinger> is there a "S" in front of it?[10:49:19] <owenca> found it in HaikuDepot[10:49:32] <owenca> how would i know i would need it?[10:49:43] <owenca> i was searching for sqlite3[10:50:06] <humdinger> whenever you need not the runtime, but try to build something, you need the _devel package.[10:51:17] <owenca> i would be looking for sqlite3_devel?[10:52:31] <owenca> and how can i tell if i need to install _x86_devel instead?[10:52:53] <humdinger> just searching for "sqlite" should list all its packages if you've turned on the setting in the "Show" menu in HaikuDepot.[10:53:14] <humdinger> _source, too, if you activated the "Source packages" there.[10:53:38] <humdinger> the _x86 is needed if you need the gcc5 version.[10:53:41] <owenca> i see them all, except i didn't know i should be looking for sqlite... rather than sqlite3...[10:53:48] <humdinger> Say, if Filer were only woring with gcc5[10:54:21] <owenca> sorry for the dumb question: what is gcc2, gcc5, etc?[10:54:24] <humdinger> I think the "3" is just the version.[10:54:45] <humdinger> Haiku's primary compiler is gcc2, for BeOS compaitbility.[10:54:56] <humdinger> if you need a newer compiler, there's gcc5[10:55:02] <humdinger> as 2ndary compiler.[10:55:12] <humdinger> you can switch to it with "setarch x86"[10:55:22] <owenca> i see. so gcc2 means gcc 2.x?[10:55:35] <humdinger> then the buildsystem tries to grab the x86 ( == gcc5) version of all libs etc.[10:55:40] <humdinger> yes.[10:56:17] <owenca> confusing. x86 is architecture but compiler is not[10:56:53] <humdinger> a bit, yes :)[10:57:18] <owenca> x86_gcc2 means gcc 2.x compiler[10:57:25] <humdinger> but gcc2 isn't going anywhere. and "x86" is just the current modern compiler[10:57:43] <owenca> x86 for gcc 5.x[10:57:51] <humdinger> we had gcc4 in the past and now gcc5.4 (i think) and soon gcc6[10:58:13] <humdinger> they'll all be the stuff with _x86 suffix[10:58:45] <humdinger> see also https://www.haiku-os.org/about/faq#i-heard-haiku-still-uses-gcc2-is-that-true[10:59:38] <owenca> thx for the url[11:00:03] <humdinger> np[11:00:53] <owenca> https://github.com/HaikuArchives/WheresMyMouse/pull/12[11:01:26] <owenca> cleaned up nicely using layout aware c'tors[11:01:36] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD75323.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[11:01:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[11:02:07] <humdinger> owenca: great. Let's merge. :)[11:04:24] <owenca> Would you do it or waddlesplash or PulkoMandy?[11:04:38] <humdinger> the merge? already done.[11:04:43] <owenca> oh[11:05:02] <owenca> thx[11:05:13] <humdinger> the changes were just small enough for me to be confident to merge it :)[11:06:00] <owenca> i will look at Filer next. Did you write the app?[11:06:17] <humdinger> no that was DarkWyrm.[11:06:20] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD75323.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:06:24] <humdinger> I just improved the GUI a bit[11:06:50] <humdinger> The whole sqlite thing appears to be overkill to me.[11:06:55] <humdinger> but what do I know...[11:07:19] <owenca> is sqlite from python?[11:07:49] <humdinger> I have no idea...[11:08:18] <owenca> i found sqlite3 in /boot/system/lib/python2.7/[11:10:09] <humdinger> apparently python uses sqlite for database stuff.[11:10:31] <owenca> do you know how to code conditional .add in layout builder?[11:11:32] <owenca> e.g. if (x) .add(menu)[11:11:33] <humdinger> I don't think you can. You can only hide/show things after they were added.[11:11:59] <humdinger> I think I'm doing that in clipdinger.[11:12:59] <owenca> it seems ArtPaint does it in a few places[11:13:03] <humdinger> so, if you have added a BCheckBox theCheckBox, you can do a theCheckBox->Hide()[11:13:34] <owenca> good idea![11:13:57] <owenca> but i am not sure if ArtPaint is doing it this way[11:13:57] <humdinger> You may have to do a InvalidateLayout() after that.[11:14:28] <humdinger> probably not. ArtPaint is a decade older than Haiku's layout management[11:16:02] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:16:16] <owenca> to show the hidden view, call Show()?[11:16:25] <humdinger> yes.[11:16:30] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[11:17:09] <humdinger> always followed by a InvalidateLayout();[11:20:52] <owenca> shouldn't it be InvalidateLayout() followed by Show()?[11:21:14] <humdinger> no, after hiding or showing.[11:22:06] <owenca> ok. it's counter intuitive for me but i will remember that[11:22:40] <OmniMancer> the Show() is what will change the layout, the invalidate call then forces it to recalculate[11:24:15] <humdinger> right. but I can see the confusion. By Invalidate()ing it you tell the system that here is something that needs redrawing.[11:24:52] <owenca> got it![11:24:57] <owenca> thx[11:26:23] <humdinger> I'll have to prepare lunch. 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Are you from Windows right now?[15:38:10] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B1504E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:40:24] *** sdr_ <sdr_!57a742df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.167.66.223> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:43:04] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[15:45:07] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:46:06] *** Maylay]eee <Maylay]eee!~gren@24.50.233.135> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:49:06] *** Maylay]eee <Maylay]eee!~gren@24.50.233.135> has joined #haiku[15:51:12] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29FAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[15:57:26] <Begas_VM> me and windows ... nah miqlas ;)[15:57:38] <Begas_VM> in VM (under ubuntu) :)[15:58:21] <Begas_VM> looking into the latest release for "Edgar"[15:59:09] <Begas_VM> ps miqlas ... was looking to see if I could get scummvm_tools build with wxqt, it builds but crashes when trying to launch it :/[15:59:52] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has joined #haiku[16:00:30] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@250.187.80.204.in-addr.arpa> has joined #haiku[16:00:46] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@250.187.80.204.in-addr.arpa> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:08:19] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29FAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[16:11:28] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:17:51] *** nepykti <nepykti!~nepykti@78.157.76.33> has joined #haiku[16:18:38] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.46.224.34> has joined #haiku[16:22:37] *** nepykti <nepykti!~nepykti@78.157.76.33> has left #haiku ("Leaving")[16:31:31] <mmu_man> https://www.ossblog.org/master-c-programming-with-open-source-books/[16:31:35] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[16:31:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[16:36:49] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[16:39:27] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:40:25] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #haiku[16:41:06] *** Maylay]eee <Maylay]eee!~gren@24.50.233.135> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:41:44] <_Dario_> thanks mmu_man ![16:46:10] <BrunoSpre> hey hello... i cannot see any text in the description box if I try to write a bugreport... any idea?[16:50:38] <BrunoSpre> just try to file a bug report at dev.haiku-os.org[16:52:37] *** knarfy <knarfy!~knarf@143.252.82.79.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:56:12] <_Dario_> BrunoSpre, what hrev are you using?[16:57:15] <_Dario_> I'm using hrev50957 x86_gcc2 and the bugtracker works well, at least, using WebPositive[16:58:15] <BrunoSpre> I use hrev50960 x86_gcc2[16:58:26] <BrunoSpre> strange[16:58:38] <BrunoSpre> just did a update with pkgman...[16:59:18] <BrunoSpre> so you have no problems writing text in the bugtracker then?[16:59:26] <_Dario_> no[16:59:40] <_Dario_> If you want, I will try to update[16:59:55] <BrunoSpre> I see nothing while typing.. only the preview is shown... the text inside some buttons are missing too?![17:00:22] <BrunoSpre> no we need someone who can solve the problem there...[17:00:22] <_Dario_> if you use Qupzilla?[17:00:35] <BrunoSpre> I use Webpositive only[17:01:00] <BrunoSpre> I try to restart Haiku... maybe it works![17:01:07] <BrunoSpre> one mom...[17:01:09] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: Bye for now!)[17:02:15] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85b5e6.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[17:02:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:03:58] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD75323.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[17:03:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[17:08:18] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD75323.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:12:17] <Begas_VM> hi humdinger :)[17:12:45] <humdinger> hu Begas_VM[17:13:04] <Begas_VM> bugger ... still no go ...[17:19:31] <Begas_VM> and working now ;)[17:19:55] <humdinger> scummvm still?[17:20:02] <Begas_VM> no patch needed anymore for latest Edgar ;)[17:20:20] <humdinger> noice :)[17:20:28] <Begas_VM> nah (saw they released a new version for Edgar this year) ...[17:21:03] <Begas_VM> scummvm_tools build with wxqt, but terminates on start .. so probably not there yet :)[17:25:56] <Begas_VM> only thing I'm still pondering about with edgar is the versioning ... they anounce it as 1.26 but the download tgz is 1.26-1[17:26:16] <Begas_VM> couldn't use the minor version for setting the mime type ..[17:32:14] <mmu_man> https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/the-ultimate-question-of-programming-refactoring-and-everything[17:51:17] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[17:53:23] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[17:54:22] <_Dario_> that was a long reboot, BrunoSpre :-)[17:54:42] <BrunoSpre> yes could not connect to wireless...[17:54:49] <BrunoSpre> restarted some times too[17:55:12] <_Dario_> still with the issue with Web+ ?[17:56:54] <BrunoSpre> yes I just tried...[17:58:33] <BrunoSpre> No idea... someone else having this problem?[17:58:37] <_Dario_> wait, I will update to the last build[17:58:42] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has joined #haiku[17:58:45] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.46.224.34> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[18:01:22] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #haiku[18:03:25] <humdinger> BrunoSpre: I do see text and icons in Trac...[18:03:47] <humdinger> The popup menus disappear though, as soon as I touch them with the mouse.[18:04:38] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.46.224.34> has joined #haiku[18:04:44] *** stargate1 <stargate1!~stargater@x4db9c31b.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[18:05:34] <BrunoSpre> ah ok maybe I have something missing here in my install?[18:06:20] <BrunoSpre> strange behavior...[18:06:30] <humdinger> I dunno... I did see those missing icons in the past. but now it works here...[18:06:53] <humdinger> I also am sure I've seen a ticket about it, but can't find it any more.[18:07:07] <_Dario_> Hi[18:07:14] <humdinger> hullo[18:07:20] <_Dario_> tested in 56960[18:07:25] <_Dario_> can't reproduce it[18:07:52] <humdinger> oh I wish we were 6000 hrevs further :)[18:08:05] <_Dario_> sorry, 50960 ;-)[18:08:32] <_Dario_> Yes, I did the pkgman full-sync inside the DeLoerean :-P[18:08:40] <_Dario_> *DeLorean[18:08:52] <_Dario_> BrunoSpre, what font are using?[18:09:16] <_Dario_> the "DejaVu" standar?[18:10:22] <BrunoSpre> no I dont have DejaVu[18:11:50] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50961 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7abafe9f3ff2+%5Ed54cb434e0c6[18:11:51] <HAIKU-irker458> 7abafe9f3ff2: Revert "Revert "Switch from DejaVu to Noto font""[18:12:24] <_Dario_> try to switch to another font. Maybe is related to that.[18:12:40] <BrunoSpre> how to?[18:12:58] <humdinger> waddlespash is MC.Eschering it. :)[18:13:08] <BrunoSpre> because it is a system font user should not be able to switch it?![18:13:15] *** jua_ <jua_!~jua@xdsl-89-0-251-31.netcologne.de> has joined #haiku[18:13:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jua_[18:13:28] <humdinger> Depending on your hrev, Noto is the system font.[18:13:34] <_Dario_> Preference --> Appareance --> Fonts[18:13:49] <humdinger> I too have Noto as system and in Web+'s settings[18:13:58] <BrunoSpre> standard is now Bitstream[18:14:08] <humdinger> I do have the DejaVu package installed as well though[18:14:09] <BrunoSpre> i have to download deja vu[18:14:18] <humdinger> nono. noto[18:15:22] <_Dario_> with the DejaVu font, at least, Web+ works well[18:16:41] <BrunoSpre> ok ticket can be closed then... if I use bitstream font it works again.[18:16:59] <BrunoSpre> I have to download the DejaVu font...[18:17:11] <BrunoSpre> is it in HaikuDepot?[18:17:19] <humdinger> it is[18:17:20] <_Dario_> yes[18:17:44] <BrunoSpre> ok[18:17:49] <BrunoSpre> one problem less[18:18:08] <humdinger> where did you set the Bitstream Charter font?[18:18:32] <humdinger> or was it just not in the system before?[18:18:59] <BrunoSpre> is DejaVu system font again?[18:19:24] <humdinger> only for a few hrevs until waddlesplash just now reverted the revert...[18:19:36] <BrunoSpre> DejaVu was not in the system[18:19:43] <BrunoSpre> Bitstream was...[18:19:59] <humdinger> How did Bitsream enter the picture?[18:20:15] <humdinger> and now you set Bitstream as system font?[18:21:52] <_Dario_> Bitstream is always included, I think[18:22:07] <_Dario_> but never was the default font[18:22:31] <BrunoSpre> maybe with Scribus Install?[18:22:43] <_Dario_> I use DejaVu because it was de "default font" some time ago[18:22:50] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: axeld * hrev50962 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a90df70af5e2+%5E7abafe9f3ff2[18:22:51] <HAIKU-irker458> a90df70af5e2: bfs: Fixed leaking cookie regression.[18:22:55] <BrunoSpre> no I think it was included ever[18:23:38] <BrunoSpre> no but if Haiku dont find the default font it will choose the first available in the list[18:23:57] <BrunoSpre> it is the Type1 font Bitstream.[18:24:31] <BrunoSpre> It is in the psfonts folder[18:24:36] <BrunoSpre> the first one[18:25:00] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: Bye for now!)[18:26:59] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[18:28:34] <BrunoSpre> ok restarted and choose the standard font in the apperance preferences...[18:28:53] <BrunoSpre> now DejaVu is found and used by default (standard font)[18:29:50] <_Dario_> no issues with Web+ now?[18:30:03] <humdinger> keep the Noto font around, because that's the default font again from now on...[18:30:06] * humdinger is idle: dinner[18:30:10] <BrunoSpre> no issues anymore[18:30:17] <BrunoSpre> is working now[18:30:18] <_Dario_> high five! :-)[18:30:46] *** qptain_Nemo <qptain_Nemo!~qN@37.204.228.163> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:31:04] <_Dario_> what font did you were using when have the problem with Web+ ? the Noto font?[18:32:08] <BrunoSpre> yes I was using the Noto font[18:32:15] <BrunoSpre> noto sans[18:32:27] *** qptain_Nemo <qptain_Nemo!~qN@37.204.228.163> has joined #haiku[18:36:00] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3452 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/3452[18:36:23] <BrunoSpre> there is no printing problem with showImage...[18:36:43] <BrunoSpre> If i print to file with ShowImage it is working without problems...[18:36:55] <BrunoSpre> there are some font problems[18:37:30] <BrunoSpre> if I try to print to file with StyleEdit I get lots of no font metrics fond errors...[18:38:45] <_Dario_> I dont have printer :-/[18:38:52] <BrunoSpre> but DejaVu is a TrueType font and so does not need font metrics! font metrics is for Type1 (psfont, postscript fonts ) only... the font metrics were necesarry for Windows only![18:39:07] <BrunoSpre> you do not need a printer[18:39:22] <_Dario_> you mean print to PDF..[18:39:25] <_Dario_> ?[18:39:36] <BrunoSpre> you use print but you print the output to file only... as PDF![18:39:48] <BrunoSpre> yes[18:40:09] <BrunoSpre> just try to install the PDFWirter as printer and print to file[18:40:14] <_Dario_> yes, I found the same issues... the fonts are overlapped in the PDF[18:40:21] <BrunoSpre> yes[18:41:06] <BrunoSpre> if everything is black... you have to deselect the text first[18:41:51] <BrunoSpre> after not finding the fontmetrics ... Haiku uses the default font for output... I think at least... have to try now...[18:44:51] <BrunoSpre> Haiku cannot find the fontmetrics for DejaVu because DejaVu is a TrueType font and so dont need a fontmetric file...[19:19:09] <_Dario_> there are a working build of 'Torrentor' ?[19:20:26] <miqlas> mmu_man: any chance for looking into mpd? I wasn't able to bump the version, it errors out in some Haiku supporting code[19:20:54] <miqlas> and the rdef doesn't got upstreamed.[19:21:45] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: Bye for now!)[19:32:52] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[19:37:11] *** AmixAros <AmixAros!~Amix4@140.65.45.31.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[19:38:36] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: Bye for now!)[19:39:56] *** neko68k <neko68k!~neko68k@2601:8c3:c101:3212:7401:dc07:d3aa:9d82> has left #haiku ("Leaving")[19:43:55] <mmu_man> miqlas: let's see[19:44:05] <miqlas> Great![19:46:00] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.46.224.34> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[19:48:42] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29FAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[19:55:22] *** AmixAros <AmixAros!~Amix4@140.65.45.31.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:56:06] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: I need sleep, or I'm drunk, or both)[19:56:29] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #haiku[19:59:42] *** lelldorin <lelldorin!~chatzilla@x4e368e46.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[20:04:03] *** lelldorin <lelldorin!~chatzilla@x4e368e46.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:06:05] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e741c397137b...eb57d540b4b2[20:06:07] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb eb57d54 - Updated Torrentor recipe[20:06:52] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.132.254.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[20:06:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[20:07:43] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29FAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[20:10:04] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-099-013.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[20:10:27] *** stargate1 <stargate1!~stargater@x4db9c31b.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[20:16:21] *** jua_ <jua_!~jua@xdsl-89-0-251-31.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[20:16:47] *** jua_ <jua_!~jua@xdsl-89-0-251-31.netcologne.de> has joined #haiku[20:16:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jua_[20:21:24] <Paradoxon> Wovon könnte der Fehler kommen? https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7iwf1BjZXznU01SZXo4b2lSMk55QkNtZ1ZwTm9YNXVKZG5R/view?usp=sharing[20:23:47] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-10-123.moscow.rt.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[20:25:15] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-10-123.moscow.rt.ru> has joined #haiku[20:26:14] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: I need sleep, or I'm drunk, or both)[20:28:12] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85b5e6.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[20:32:15] *** DrNick42 <DrNick42!~DrNick42@w-250.cust-u527.ip.static.uno.uk.net> has joined #haiku[20:35:43] <DrNick42> hi all. wondering if anyone’s about to help with a wifi query. Its an Intel Centreno Advanced-N 6200 (shows up in listdev as that), but listed as iprowifi4965 in network settings. I’ve ran the firmware download script, but it still won’t associate under Haiku. would I be correct to assume its not supported?[20:36:54] <DrNick42> running hrev50953 btw sory[20:38:36] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[20:41:34] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[20:42:15] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[20:43:17] <Vidrep> Hi[20:43:35] <DrNick42> hi Vidrep[20:44:59] <BrunoSpre> i have a iprowifi3945 no need for afirmware[20:45:44] <BrunoSpre> sometimes it works sometimes not[20:45:51] <BrunoSpre> very unstable here...[20:46:00] <Vidrep> BrunoSpre, did you ever get your printer working over a network?[20:46:27] <BrunoSpre> at least I got lots of empty paper out! ;-)[20:46:47] <BrunoSpre> gave up yesterday...[20:47:02] <Vidrep> I get that too. Usually if it is set up incorrectly[20:47:11] <BrunoSpre> at least the adress should be ok...[20:47:32] <Vidrep> What driver did you use? Gutenprint?[20:48:18] <BrunoSpre> i had to use the adress 192:168.1.111 and in the field LPT i had to fill in my printers name "usbPrinter"[20:48:34] <BrunoSpre> yes I used Gutenprint[20:48:47] <DrNick42> well how about that. just tried to re-join the wlan and now it works. thanks though! btw, fairly new user here (since yesterday)… really loving the OS so far[20:49:07] <Vidrep> You have a supported driver, so it should work[20:49:44] <BrunoSpre> yes I dont know why... I will try it again maybe tomorrow[20:50:01] <BrunoSpre> since the printer is in my daughters room![20:50:13] <DrNick42> it just wasn’t associating earlier. would either not accept WPA2 key, or would accept it but not get an IP and end up with a zeroconf address[20:50:27] <BrunoSpre> yes I told you sometime it works sometimes not[20:50:56] <DrNick42> BrunoSpre: yeah was just replying to Vidrep’s comment[20:51:19] <Vidrep> BrunoSpre, any time you want to go through the steps again, open a private channel to discuss. That we we don't spam the IRC channel too much[20:52:07] *** rgb <rgb!58a323de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.163.35.222> has joined #haiku[20:53:37] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-099-013.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:57:21] *** fujisan <fujisan!~fujisan@unaffiliated/fujisan> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[21:05:10] *** cmkat <cmkat!~AndChat20@181.141.128.125> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:05:34] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD75323.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[21:05:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[21:08:21] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has joined #haiku[21:08:51] *** stargate1 <stargate1!~stargater@x4db9c31b.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[21:10:12] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD75323.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:20:52] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:25:08] *** 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IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:37:39] *** DrNick42 <DrNick42!~3verythin@w-250.cust-u527.ip.static.uno.uk.net> has joined #haiku[22:37:52] *** DrNick42 <DrNick42!~3verythin@w-250.cust-u527.ip.static.uno.uk.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:38:19] *** DrNick42 <DrNick42!~3verythin@w-250.cust-u527.ip.static.uno.uk.net> has joined #haiku[22:39:13] *** DrNick42 <DrNick42!~3verythin@w-250.cust-u527.ip.static.uno.uk.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:39:35] *** DrNick42 <DrNick42!~DrNick42@w-250.cust-u527.ip.static.uno.uk.net> has joined #haiku[22:40:23] <PulkoMandy> for unstable / not working iprowifi problems, try the "ifconfig -n" trick to disable Wifi-N and use only A/B/G (slower but a lot more stable with our current drivers)[22:40:43] *** DrNick42 <DrNick42!~DrNick42@w-250.cust-u527.ip.static.uno.uk.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:40:51] <mmu_man> miqlas: src/mixer/plugins/HaikuMixerPlugin.cxx:38:31: error: 'Error' has not been declared[22:40:54] <mmu_man> indeed[22:40:59] *** DrNick42 <DrNick42!~DrNick42@w-250.cust-u527.ip.static.uno.uk.net> has joined #haiku[22:41:12] <mmu_man> they probably moved it to a new header[22:41:39] *** Styrbjorn <Styrbjorn!~tommy@c83-251-150-0.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #haiku[22:44:09] *** Styrbjorn <Styrbjorn!~tommy@c83-251-150-0.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:45:18] *** DrNick42 <DrNick42!~DrNick42@w-250.cust-u527.ip.static.uno.uk.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:45:57] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:51:18] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:53:03] *** Styrbjorn <Styrbjorn!~tommy@c83-251-150-0.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #haiku[22:53:03] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:53:32] <BrunoSpre> hi... there is a swap file in my system folder... can I delete it?[22:54:57] <mmu_man> e7d327226a6383ae93970ff20c878d6a873c735f mixer: migrate to C++ exceptions[22:55:01] <mmu_man> ah that's it[22:55:28] <mmu_man> BrunoSpre: in /system/var ? yes but it will be recreated on next boot[22:55:49] <mmu_man> see the virtual memory prefs to change the size[22:55:50] <PulkoMandy> BrunoSpre: you can disable swap in preferences/virtualmemory[22:55:56] <PulkoMandy> or move it to another drive[22:56:40] *** Muzer <Muzer!~muzer@tim32.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:57:47] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.47.128.147> has joined #haiku[22:59:11] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.132.254.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[23:00:18] <BrunoSpre> ah yes ok thx btw. how to use the ifconfig -n trick what do I have to type?[23:02:21] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, when attempting to install PDFTranslator from Depot I get the following error: "nothing provides lib:libpng>=16.17.0 needed by openjpeg-2.1.1-2"[23:02:29] *** axeld 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