February 18, 2017 
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February 18, 2017 [00:00:51] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:27:24] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[00:34:09] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[00:36:54] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[00:37:03] <BrunoSpr> hi again...[00:38:06] <BrunoSpr> What happened to the PDF Writer? Does not seem to work... print to file![00:38:08] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/8b40a88ce72d...4252f69e5ba7[00:38:09] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 4252f69 - buildmaster: New easier to use createbuilder tool[00:41:38] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/4252f69e5ba7...24c0803cd413[00:41:39] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 24c0803 - buildmaster/createbuilder: Fix typo in help[00:45:43] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[00:48:12] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD753A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[00:48:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[00:48:34] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-okgrahigqaoanmjf> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:48:59] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/24c0803cd413...dec35cc95a95[00:49:01] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 dec35cc - buildmaster/createbuilder: Fix home path[00:53:00] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD753A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:59:16] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has joined #haiku[01:01:10] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:01:51] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[01:02:40] <BrunoSpr> hi all.. cannot print anything to file?! PDF Writer does not work... how to print to file?[01:02:57] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.8.2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:03:37] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-099-035.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[01:05:21] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:06:57] *** Gareth422 <Gareth422!~Gareth@2607:fea8:a69f:ff98:d843:1758:1a21:9b2b> has joined #haiku[01:17:46] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[01:23:18] *** jua_ <jua_!~vision@xdsl-85-197-26-242.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[01:23:32] <Skipp_OSX> :([01:23:46] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@209.181.88.61> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:25:31] *** AD_MOS <AD_MOS!~JohnN@bcdf1df9.skybroadband.com> has joined #haiku[01:55:08] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[01:56:19] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:03:11] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-124-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - 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A hand crafted IRC client)[05:52:20] *** kazenoreiki <kazenoreiki!~kaze@2604:2000:a186:b00::a> has joined #haiku[05:57:56] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[05:58:30] *** kazenoreiki <kazenoreiki!~kaze@2604:2000:a186:b00::a> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:58:49] *** kazenoreiki <kazenoreiki!~kaze@2604:2000:a186:b00:ebf:b807:da7:1762> has joined #haiku[05:59:40] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@31.155.93.90> has joined #haiku[05:59:40] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@31.155.93.90> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:08:33] *** rdad <rdad!~rdad@c-98-206-31-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[06:11:26] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[06:13:34] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-veyhehkwcdzcuxnj> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:22:50] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/dec35cc95a95...8af09fc6a756[06:22:52] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 5cbca1b - buildmaster/createbuilder: Fix key path to be relative[06:22:53] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 b745db9 - README: Update docs for new createbuilder[06:22:55] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 147ca69 - buildmaster/createbuilder: Cleanup language[06:22:56] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 8af09fc - buildmaster/createbuilder: Allow setting remote portstree location[06:36:27] *** rdad <rdad!~rdad@c-98-206-31-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:57:36] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: nielx * hrev50958 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=fc4167a80128+%5Edeb1a3197202[06:57:37] <HAIKU-irker458> fc4167a80128: Update translations from Pootle[07:50:53] *** kazenoreiki <kazenoreiki!~kaze@2604:2000:a186:b00:ebf:b807:da7:1762> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:06:42] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[08:08:22] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vymtmyuoobecpsom> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[08:16:16] *** siel <siel!~siel@unaffiliated/motley> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[08:16:31] *** siel <siel!~siel@unaffiliated/motley> has joined #haiku[08:21:37] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[08:37:01] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d854b17.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:37:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:38:37] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:38:53] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD75345.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[08:38:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[08:40:47] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has joined #haiku[08:45:37] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-124-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[08:45:45] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD75345.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[08:52:09] <PulkoMandy> BrunoSpr: you need to ask Vidrep, our printing expert[08:59:07] <humdinger> Hi PulkoMandy[08:59:15] <PulkoMandy> hi[08:59:20] <humdinger> Depends on the app you want to print from.[08:59:33] <humdinger> Here StyledEdit works, Pe doesn't, fo example[09:20:08] <owenca> hi humdinger PulkoMany[09:20:17] <humdinger> hullo owenca[09:20:18] <owenca> hi PulkoMandy[09:20:27] <tidux> that reminds me[09:20:32] <tidux> what format does StyledEdit use?[09:20:35] <tidux> RTF?[09:20:43] <owenca> where can i find wonder brush source code?[09:20:58] <humdinger> owenca: it's closed source[09:21:16] <owenca> what does it mean?[09:21:16] <humdinger> tidux: it's plain text with the formatting in attributes.[09:21:28] <humdinger> owenca: stippi has the source[09:21:35] <tidux> oh, that's both ingenious and frustratingly non-portable[09:22:04] <owenca> humdinger so not open source yet?[09:22:32] <humdinger> owenca: yep. closed, unfortunately.[09:22:58] <humdinger> stippi has plans to release a WB v2.0, but doesn't have the time.[09:23:10] <owenca> i see[09:23:54] <owenca> i saw that it has the same Swatches as Icon-O-Matic[09:24:12] <humdinger> stippi also coded the original IOM[09:24:26] <owenca> i wonder[09:24:59] <humdinger> I think much of IOMs code and behind the scenes workings are inspired by WB[09:25:00] <owenca> is there a color palette class?[09:25:21] <humdinger> there's a colour picker if you mean that[09:25:40] <owenca> yeah. i guess.[09:26:04] <owenca> i am thinking adding it to WhereIsMyMouse[09:26:29] <owenca> don't want to reinvent the wheel if i don't have to[09:26:59] <owenca> where can i read about this color picker?[09:27:05] <humdinger> What's used often, is to just accept colour drops and have the user use any app she wants.[09:27:15] <humdinger> I did that with Clipdinger e.g.[09:27:31] <humdinger> the BeBook and HaikuBook[09:27:46] <humdinger> https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/api/classBColorControl.html[09:27:48] <owenca> color drop is already supported by WIMM[09:28:18] <owenca> but the issue is not closed so i thought you still wanted a color picker[09:29:33] <owenca> i don't recall seeing a BColorPicker or something like that in Haiku Book[09:29:56] <humdinger> Ah. I'd say we close that issue.[09:30:07] <owenca> ok thx[09:30:14] <humdinger> owenca: I pasted the URL... :)[09:30:27] <owenca> oh it's called BColorControl[09:30:48] <owenca> yeah the delay effect[09:30:52] <owenca> thx[09:31:06] <humdinger> seem my comments on artpaint?[09:31:20] <owenca> not yet but will now[09:32:39] <owenca> just read them[09:32:58] <owenca> i will try with the layout aware contructors[09:33:22] <owenca> didn't know if they'd work[09:34:05] <humdinger> whenever you use layouting, those are the c'tor to use. otherwise you may see unexpected sizing behaviour.[09:34:36] <owenca> thx! will give it a try[09:35:47] <owenca> by the way, Skipp_OSX asked me to write a Layout It All Out Part 2 based on my experience converting WIMM to layout API[09:36:19] <owenca> but i don't think i can add much because the layout part is not very much comparing to other stuff i did[09:36:40] <owenca> *Laying It[09:38:04] <owenca> Maybe an informal blog would be more suitable?[09:38:50] <humdinger> Reading about such a converting experience might be interesting to read, but I suspect writing a kinda How-To guide on layouting demands more experience and understanding of the layouting system.[09:39:12] <humdinger> An informal blog post is better, i agree.[09:39:51] <humdinger> Or maybe wait with that too a bit, after you've finished with ArtPaint etc.[09:40:16] <humdinger> whatever you feel comfortable with.[09:40:20] <owenca> i agree[09:40:52] <owenca> i was such a struggle for me even with the first step for ArtPaint[09:41:03] <humdinger> Of course, all our hope is that you'll quickly gain enough experience to do that HowTo guide. :)[09:41:08] <owenca> i am not sure if i will ever be able to really convert all of it[09:41:18] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:41:29] <owenca> *it was[09:41:37] <humdinger> I can understand that. I tried with "Filer" but could do it for everything...[09:41:46] <humdinger> *could not[09:42:38] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has joined #haiku[09:43:23] <humdinger> If you're interested in non layouting work, this would be a nice issue to get fixed: https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Filer/issues/15[09:43:40] <humdinger> There's even code for that in Filer.[09:44:22] <humdinger> I did look into it some time ago, but I'm not much of a coder, so I shied away...[09:44:25] <owenca> sure[09:44:56] <humdinger> there are issues for all kinds of things all over the Haiku sphere... :)[09:45:01] <owenca> will give it a shot after fixing ArtPaint[09:45:07] <humdinger> cool![09:46:22] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpinmg8l44wo5k2x.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[09:46:40] <owenca> https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/api/classBScrollBar.html[09:47:10] <owenca> so you meant the 2nd c'tor is layout aware?[09:47:23] <humdinger> yep[09:47:52] <owenca> oh sounds easy[09:48:16] <humdinger> yep. normally it's just removing the first BRect() parameter[09:48:55] <Begasus> humdinger! :)[09:49:00] <Begasus> good morning all :)[09:49:15] <humdinger> hullo Begasus![09:49:23] <owenca> morning Begasus[09:49:31] <Begasus> hi owenca[09:49:36] <Begasus> how's it going here?[09:49:59] <owenca> making progress[09:50:35] <Begasus> yeah, seen the action on the mailinglist[09:54:48] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9e9a7.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:56:06] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-099-035.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[09:56:48] *** Begas_VM <Begas_VM!~Begasus@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[10:05:05] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-242-133-87.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:05:21] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-197-111-122.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[10:05:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[10:21:04] *** [r4] <[r4]!~r4]@staticline-31-182-192-46.toya.net.pl> has joined #haiku[10:24:12] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC ()[10:27:24] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[10:28:09] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B15018E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[10:37:35] *** jua_ <jua_!~jua@xdsl-89-0-244-212.netcologne.de> has joined #haiku[10:37:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jua_[10:42:41] <BrunoSpr>[10:43:10] <BrunoSpr> morning all... using StyleEdit, I tried to print to file with PDFPrinter choosen... I can chose the paper format (here:A4) after I have to choose wheater print all pages or Print pages... If you select Print pages ... by default PDF Writer insert the values: From: 1 to 2147483647!!! Sure I have only 1 (one) page to print![10:43:25] <humdinger> owenca: I have elaborated a bit more on that Filer enhancement ticket. I expect the solution is quite challenging... :}[10:43:27] <humdinger> https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Filer/issues/15[10:44:02] <humdinger> BrunoSpr: I think Vidrep reported that already.[10:44:28] <BrunoSpr> Ok I will read the log first thx...[10:44:45] <humdinger> I think it's a ticket...[10:44:46] <owenca> humdinger thx for making my life easier[10:45:05] <humdinger> that was sarcasm, right? :)[10:45:17] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (K-Lined)[10:45:26] <humdinger> I do pick that up more and more when people talk to me... :)[10:46:46] <humdinger> BrunoSpr: or maybe it's not a ticket yet. can't find it. maybe ask Vidrep.[10:48:00] <humdinger> Q: I saw that printing to pdf from StyledEdit prints the background colour I have set for "Document background".[10:48:15] <humdinger> normally that's white, but I have set a slight beige.[10:48:43] <humdinger> The printout should be white in any case, right? 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Only if you know what preferences to avoid...[11:52:37] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9e9a7.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[12:03:44] <mmu_man> please make a bug report ;-)[12:03:54] <stargater> the new poddle catfiles are not coreckt, eg:[12:03:57] <stargater> +Copyright © 1994-1997 Mark Kilgard. All rights reserved. AboutView Всі права застережені © 2003 Peter Hanappe і інші.[12:05:00] <BrunoSpr> I create a ticket... about print to file not working[12:06:05] *** Shearer <Shearer!~shearer@net-93-144-146-186.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[12:15:40] *** phcoder <phcoder!~phcoder@2a02:120b:2c41:77c0:208:9bff:fec0:435e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[12:29:40] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:30:01] *** auronandace <auronandace!~auronanda@2a02:c7d:4427:e200:61ec:2826:e242:c91e> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[12:32:03] <Begas_VM> bugger now this ... nothing provides wxqt_x86==3.1.0 needed by wxqt_x86_devel-3.1.0-2[12:32:35] *** auronandace <auronandace!~auronanda@2a02:c7d:4427:e200:7929:96c7:6f0c:8a0b> has joined #haiku[12:36:35] <mmu_man> looks like a dependency bug[12:36:42] <mmu_man> tried to install it manually?[12:37:07] <Begas_VM> first did with double clicking it ... 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<Shearer!~shearer@net-93-144-146-186.cust.dsl.teletu.it> has joined #haiku[16:24:10] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:24:41] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d854b17.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:24:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[16:27:54] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-138.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[16:32:57] *** fujisan <fujisan!~fujisan@unaffiliated/fujisan> has joined #haiku[16:35:57] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@94.119.128.61> has joined #haiku[16:38:55] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[16:39:45] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, "printing expert"?? LOL[16:40:46] <Vidrep> Oh, by the way "Good morning!"[16:43:43] <humdinger> Hi Vidrep![16:45:41] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@94.119.128.61> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:47:27] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.47.128.117> has joined #haiku[16:47:44] <Paradoxon> wow haiku depot is so anyoing slow...[16:47:57] <Paradoxon> the gui is freezing all the time.. :/[16:49:13] <humdinger> for me only sometimes...[16:49:29] <humdinger> I deactivated 3rd party repos and the freezes are fewer[16:49:42] <Paradoxon> hmm but there must be something wrong..[16:49:59] <Paradoxon> fetching and search happens in the window thread...[16:50:04] <Paradoxon> i guess..[16:50:16] <Paradoxon> thats what renders it unresponsive..[16:50:30] <humdinger> yes. that's the issue. ticket exists.[16:50:32] <Paradoxon> i alaways start haiku depot and type in a search string...[16:50:35] <Paradoxon> ohh :-D[16:50:37] <humdinger> dev to fix it doesn't :)[16:50:43] <Paradoxon> :-D[16:50:55] <Paradoxon> i lost all my motivation again over my clucene..[16:51:08] <Paradoxon> but i dont want anyone else to fix it ..[16:51:15] <Paradoxon> know i want to learn this :-D[16:52:21] <humdinger> ask innnocent little questions and paste your recipe when our porter pros are watching.[16:52:58] <Paradoxon> pulko already helped me.. now its to me to learn crapy cmake stuff[16:53:03] * Paradoxon loves gui[16:54:26] <humdinger> all buildsystems besides a nice makefile stumps me most of the time.[16:54:28] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD75345.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[16:54:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[16:54:49] <Paradoxon> anyway i have a new toy.. also it is tempting to port software for this.. but first i need to get it running... usb2dmx..[16:54:51] <Paradoxon> :-D[16:55:32] <Paradoxon> controlling light system over laptop usb :-D[16:55:36] <Paradoxon> thats cool :-D[16:56:13] <humdinger> ah. what was the name of that BeOS software way back?[16:56:26] <humdinger> also brought us beshare, IIRC.[16:57:32] *** _arjen_ <_arjen_!~arjen@a212-238-166-106.adsl.xs4all.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:57:55] <humdinger> ah yes. Level Control Systems LCS[16:58:08] <humdinger> http://testou.free.fr/www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/developers/developer_news/spotlight/lcs.html[16:58:38] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD75345.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:03:26] <Paradoxon> ohh sound intreseting[17:04:14] <Paradoxon> does anyone has contact to the dev?[17:04:28] <Paradoxon> could the recompile it for haiku or release the source?[17:07:18] <Vidrep> I just tried to replicate Bruno's PDF Writer issue[17:07:28] <Vidrep> Yeah, there's a problem[17:07:57] <Vidrep> The print_add-on _server hangs and pegs one CPU core[17:08:02] <humdinger> Paradoxon: no idea. LCS seems to be gone... but this kind of niche software is usually sold before a company folds, I think...[17:08:21] <humdinger> Vidrep: I saw that when tring to print from terminal.[17:08:34] <Vidrep> However, the PDF file is successfully created and is readable with BePDF[17:08:37] <humdinger> Vidrep: from StyledEdit, BePDF and Showimage it works.[17:09:03] <Vidrep> I used StyledEdit[17:09:34] <Vidrep> We have a handful of printing releted tickets, which need to be fixed[17:09:59] <Vidrep> If we wait for an office suite before fixing them, it may take 10 more years[17:10:17] <humdinger> yes. but I won't hold my breath. printing has been on the backburner for many years[17:10:49] <Vidrep> We should at least have a reliable way to print from our text editor9s)[17:12:08] <Vidrep> Just fixing those 3 or 4 tickets would go along way[17:12:37] <Vidrep> I;'m not holding my breath either[17:13:15] <Vidrep> In one respect I feel better today - I'm not the only one with a printer :)[17:13:46] <Vidrep> ...lone voice crying out in the Haiku wilderness...[17:15:44] *** humdinger_ <humdinger_!~humdinger@x5d854b17.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[17:15:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger_[17:15:44] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d854b17.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:15:55] <humdinger_> app_server died on me...[17:20:24] <humdinger_> Vidrep: now you just need to find someone else using DVD burners and you can open a "90s club". :D[17:20:45] <_Dario_> hey.. I still burn DVDs.. :-)[17:21:06] <humdinger_> great! who will be treasurer? :P[17:21:06] <_Dario_> however, recently switched to burn Blu-ray[17:21:14] <_Dario_> lol[17:21:28] <Vidrep> Archiving on a DVD is still more practical than a USB stick for a lot of things[17:22:28] <humdinger_> "it's da cloud, man..."[17:23:17] <Vidrep> I still play vinyl LP's on a stereo, not on a computer[17:23:45] <Vidrep> When I say stereo, I mean 2 speakers, not 15[17:24:02] <humdinger_> 2!? 2???!! Luxery![17:24:21] <Vidrep> B&W 802[17:25:06] <humdinger_> Is that the model of your black and white 18" tube TV? :)[17:25:34] <Vidrep> LOL. No I use a plasma[17:26:14] <_Dario_> just searched for B&W 802... WOW! that are a nice pair of speakers![17:27:09] <_Dario_> not the kind of shitty speakers that came with the "multimedia kit" in the 90s... :-)[17:28:23] <Vidrep> They're thirsty suckers too. I drive them with a pair of Bryston 750Watt mono-blocks[17:28:49] <humdinger_> I still use the first pair of speakers I bought as a teen: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sony%20g3%20speakers[17:28:55] <humdinger_> see the images. :)[17:30:00] <_Dario_> great![17:31:22] <_Dario_> that kind of hardware last an entire life[17:31:58] <Vidrep> Being an audiophile is an expensive hobby. I stopped upgrading back in the 80's, and I'm still enjoying that same 30 year old system[17:33:19] <humdinger_> Can't say I'm an audiophile, but I only buy new stuff to replace broken stuff, normally.[17:34:32] <Vidrep> I bought my Oracle turntable when I was 18 years old, and still use it. I've never had a single problem aside from belt replacement.[17:37:22] <Vidrep> http://www.tonepublications.com/old-school/oracle-alexandria-turntable/[17:37:32] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[17:38:25] <humdinger_> whoa... that doesn't look like it was that expensive![17:38:48] <humdinger_> For $2k I expected some 50kg monster...[17:39:21] <Vidrep> Believe me, it's not a lightweight[17:39:27] <BrunoSpr> hi all... I was not interessted in printing so long because I thought for sure this works... at least printing to a file... because it is the most important part for getting productive...[17:39:40] <Vidrep> Hi BrunoSpr[17:39:53] <humdinger_> BrunoSpr: might it be related to the file you try to print?[17:39:58] <humdinger_> because it works for me...[17:41:05] <Vidrep> I tried printing to file using the PDF writer, from a StyledEdit text document. I worked, but the print-add-on_server freezes and pegs a cpu core[17:41:05] <humdinger_> BrunoSpr: have created that printer anew? maybe some things have changed and an old settings file is the trouble.[17:41:51] <Vidrep> There is a problem with the preview on 64 bit too[17:42:10] <Vidrep> The problem? No preview - just a blank page[17:42:48] <humdinger_> maybe the print spooler has writer's block...[17:44:00] <Vidrep> humdinger_, most of our printing issues are within Haiku itself. Printing from GoBe, or BeatWare Writer works perfectly[17:44:56] <Vidrep> Printing from StyledEdit or Pe, the margins are wrong, and sometimes there is an overlap of text[17:46:46] <BrunoSpr> I use a 32Bit system and I get a blank preview page[17:47:18] <Vidrep> Blank preview on print to file, or to paper?[17:47:41] <BrunoSpr> yes exactly the margins are wrong and there is overlapping some times[17:47:50] <BrunoSpr> print to file[17:48:04] <BrunoSpr> and blank preview too[17:48:11] <Vidrep> Yes, I saw that as well. Preview works fine for printing to paper[17:49:04] <Vidrep> I am not aware of an existing ticket for Print to file. Maybe you could create one[17:49:44] <Vidrep> BrunoSpr, do you have a hardware printer?[17:51:22] <Vidrep> BrunoSpr, my advice would be use GoBe to create documents that you wish to print[17:51:43] <BrunoSpr> ok I tried with GoBe...[17:51:50] <Vidrep> The printer test page is bung as well[17:52:00] <BrunoSpr> the output was there... pdf...[17:52:24] <BrunoSpr> but not italic as should...[17:53:00] <BrunoSpr> I have a hardware printer but I think it is not supported HP HL1430[17:53:26] <Vidrep> Please try it with GutenPrint drivers[17:53:49] <BrunoSpr> If I have some more time I will...[17:54:02] <BrunoSpr> Printer is on network now...[17:54:19] <BrunoSpr> have to use cable to get it connected to my Haiku Computers[17:54:23] <Vidrep> I have 2 HP printers myself (neither supported by GutenPrint), but they do work with certain other print drivers in the list[17:54:50] <Vidrep> I have mine on a network, and it's oK[17:55:24] <Vidrep> All you need is the network address to print[17:55:57] <BrunoSpr> Most work I do is saving my files to an USB and get the jobs printed at a copyshop... Is is much cheaper and better quality there...[17:56:49] <Vidrep> Yes, but at the same time, we could use more testers for Haiku[17:57:03] <BrunoSpr> I will test it no problem...[17:57:50] <Vidrep> IPP does not work, just so you know[17:58:06] <BrunoSpr> but print to file is most important for me! for Posters brochures, books, and other big layout jobs...[17:58:59] <Vidrep> HP printers do not work with Haiku UPnP for whatever reason. Epson is OK[17:59:59] <BrunoSpr> yes I know... my printer is not supported...[18:00:19] <BrunoSpr> but thats not a problem... if print to file would work...[18:01:46] <Vidrep> I don't have the ability to fix any of this. I just report the problems (like you), hoping that one day somebody actually looks at it[18:01:51] <BrunoSpr> never tried to use the network adress to print...[18:02:17] <BrunoSpr> yes same here... at least I try and I report problems...[18:03:11] <BrunoSpr> I am very disapointed... about this particular problem... It is so important to get this to work..[18:03:22] <Vidrep> Use the network address format 192.168.1.xx, NOT the network name for HP printers[18:03:33] <BrunoSpr> no need to have a office suite then...[18:04:55] <BrunoSpr> ah ok and then it works... my adress is 192.168.3.109 I think... how to print there?[18:05:38] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/1d92ab133850...8c9f68eb10a7[18:05:40] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb 8c9f68e - "Emulating" -> "Virtualizing"[18:05:41] <Vidrep> Set up you printer from Preferences[18:06:11] <BrunoSpr> ok I have to kill PDFWriter proccess first...[18:06:48] <Vidrep> Connected to: HP JetDirect or LPR[18:07:17] <BrunoSpr> ok wait I am not ready...[18:08:29] <Vidrep> Did you say HL-1430? That's a Brother printer, not a HP[18:09:51] <BrunoSpr> oh yes sorry it is a Brother printer ups sorry...[18:10:04] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/8af09fc6a756...6c4cfe15ced3[18:10:06] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 6c4cfe1 - buildmaster/checkbuilders: New tool to check the configured builders[18:10:10] <BrunoSpr> I am confused now...[18:10:45] <Vidrep> I just looked, your printer is supported by the GutenPrint drivers (lucky!)[18:11:12] <BrunoSpr> but not with USB!?[18:11:30] <Vidrep> It "should" work[18:11:41] <BrunoSpr> with network?[18:11:49] <Vidrep> Let's try network printing first[18:11:57] <BrunoSpr> ok how?[18:12:07] <BrunoSpr> never tried it[18:12:26] <Vidrep> Open Print Preferences->add printer[18:12:33] <BrunoSpr> ok[18:12:50] <Vidrep> Give it a name - Brother[18:13:04] <BrunoSpr> ok[18:13:05] <Vidrep> Printer Type: GutenPrint[18:13:14] <BrunoSpr> ok[18:13:29] <Vidrep> Connected to: LPR[18:13:58] <BrunoSpr> ok[18:14:17] <Vidrep> Select Printer: Brother->model[18:14:30] <BrunoSpr> k[18:15:18] <Vidrep> OK[18:15:39] <Vidrep> Print test page[18:18:22] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dryhvjjxytnxhwpj> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[18:18:52] <Vidrep> LPR Setup ->Server name 192.168.1.xxx Leave the queue name at default (LPT1_PASSTHRU)[18:18:54] <BrunoSpr> where to choose the network adress? Haiku wont find the printer[18:19:33] <Vidrep> Print test page should bring up the LPR Setup dialog[18:19:42] <BrunoSpr> nothing[18:19:50] <BrunoSpr> only processing[18:19:58] <BrunoSpr> in process...[18:20:16] <BrunoSpr> ah ok wait it was behind this window...[18:20:31] <Vidrep> :)[18:20:45] <BrunoSpr> server error[18:21:09] <BrunoSpr> I have to use the diskstation its adress...[18:21:42] <Vidrep> Do you have the LPR Setup dialog?[18:21:59] <BrunoSpr> yes I had...[18:22:27] <Vidrep> For "Server name:" you need to have the correct address or printer name[18:22:31] <BrunoSpr> maybe I did not have the correct address...[18:23:13] <Vidrep> You can get the right name or address from the printer setup menu on the printer (network menu)[18:23:16] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/6c4cfe15ced3...282b96933ade[18:23:18] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 282b969 - buildmaster/checkbuilders: Tweak column lengths[18:25:30] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A28C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[18:26:44] <BrunoSpr> ohje how to find the network adress?[18:27:37] <Vidrep> It should display it somewhere in the printer menu (on the printer)[18:28:27] <Vidrep> Probably in the setup menu[18:28:50] <BrunoSpr> yes I try...[18:28:58] <BrunoSpr> have to kill the print server...[18:29:46] <Vidrep> There should be settings for ink level, maintenance,network etc[18:29:50] <BrunoSpr> I get the printer menu only if i use Gobe...[18:30:24] <Vidrep> On the printer itself, not in Haiku[18:32:35] <Vidrep> The digital touch display on the printer[18:33:14] <BrunoSpr> the printer is too old there is no display at all! only lamps... ;_?[18:33:39] <BrunoSpr> I have to find the correct adress first... give me some time...[18:34:06] <krbtgt|a> what printer is this again?[18:34:18] <krbtgt|a> oh a brother[18:34:25] <krbtgt|a> doesnt oit had some LCDs?[18:34:56] <BrunoSpr> not at all...[18:34:57] <krbtgt|a> if it has tcp/ip but not even a display id be a bit confused[18:34:59] <BrunoSpr> to old...[18:35:06] <BrunoSpr> hl1430[18:35:14] <krbtgt|a> not even a strip to say PC LOAD LETTER?[18:35:21] <BrunoSpr> Brother HL1430 Laser A4...[18:35:27] <BrunoSpr> no[18:35:42] <krbtgt|a> so they intended you to use networking blind[18:35:47] <Vidrep> Looking at your printer on the internet[18:35:47] <krbtgt|a> thats a wtf[18:35:55] <BrunoSpr> only lamps. GREEN=on[18:35:59] <BrunoSpr> yes[18:36:08] <BrunoSpr> red=off[18:36:16] <Vidrep> It looks like your stuck with USB only (at leat with haiku)[18:36:20] <BrunoSpr> wtf, wth...[18:36:29] <Vidrep> least[18:36:35] <BrunoSpr> yes that might be...[18:36:46] <Vidrep> Buy an Epson :)[18:36:47] <BrunoSpr> but I can reach my diskstation there...[18:37:21] <BrunoSpr> normally I am happy to get a PDF![18:37:55] <Vidrep> I also have a Brother printer for testing. It does not work with haiku whatsoever[18:38:03] <krbtgt|a> does HPLIP work?[18:38:28] <Vidrep> However, yours is a supported model, but probably only using a USB connevtion[18:38:47] <krbtgt|a> ive had good experiences with HP printers albeit on linux over usb[18:38:56] <BrunoSpr> I have to start my notebook with Haiku... there i will find the adress ...[18:39:07] <BrunoSpr> ok wait...[18:39:17] <Vidrep> HP is fairly well supported by GutenPrint[18:39:37] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2a83b948571f...e741c397137b[18:39:38] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] miqlas e741c39 - wxQt: enable positional printf argument support for FileZilla (#1154)[18:39:47] <BrunoSpr> yes it is... my daughter lilke to go out for jogging....[18:40:10] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qomhyrtuqezdigbw> has joined #haiku[18:40:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[18:40:35] <Vidrep> BrunoSpr, once you get the correct address, it should work[18:42:08] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:53:26] *** s-mutin <s-mutin!~s-mutin@mail.ska-irk.ru> has joined #haiku[18:53:48] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A28C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[18:55:40] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-138.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:56:37] *** mutin-s <mutin-s!~s-mutin@mail.ska-irk.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:09:04] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@143.16.90.92.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[19:15:57] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-skmuztiarvkoipwk> has joined #haiku[19:21:20] *** Shearer <Shearer!~shearer@net-93-144-146-186.cust.dsl.teletu.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:26:51] <Vidrep> Gotta go[19:27:25] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[19:33:14] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-047-087.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[19:33:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[19:38:10] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has joined #haiku[19:41:07] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@143.16.90.92.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:45:27] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.47.128.117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:51:37] <DKnoto> Hi[19:52:10] <DKnoto> Where to add a ticket for Pe? Which group/subgroup?[19:52:33] <waddlesplash> DKnoto: not on the main Haiku tracker. Pe issues go here: https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Pe/issues[19:53:10] <DKnoto> Thanks waddlesplash[19:53:49] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.46.225.97> has joined #haiku[19:57:33] *** Begas_VM <Begas_VM!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[19:59:33] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:03:26] *** fujisan <fujisan!~fujisan@unaffiliated/fujisan> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[20:05:20] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:07:10] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has joined #haiku[20:13:56] *** humdinger_ <humdinger_!~humdinger@x5d854b17.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[20:26:40] *** cmkat <cmkat!~AndChat20@181.141.128.125> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:30:47] *** tidux <tidux!~jon@50.31.112.231> has left #haiku[20:31:07] *** rgb <rgb!58a323de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.163.35.222> has joined #haiku[20:33:56] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:35:08] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has joined #haiku[20:43:21] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:45:52] *** hydraz <hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz> has quit IRC (Quit: Bai.)[20:47:17] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has joined #haiku[20:48:42] *** Barrett__ is now known as Barrett[20:54:34] *** rgb <rgb!58a323de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.163.35.222> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:58:27] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:59:12] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-099-125.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[21:00:17] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50959 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=2423ba84701f+%5Efc4167a80128[21:00:18] <HAIKU-irker458> 2423ba84701f: Revert "Switch from DejaVu to Noto font"[21:05:25] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has joined #haiku[21:06:02] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[21:06:11] <Vidrep> Hi[21:07:20] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-099-125.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[21:10:27] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:11:20] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3419 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/3419 blamelist: Augustin Cavalier <waddlesplash at gmail dot com>[21:15:43] <_Dario_> hi Vidrep[21:18:03] <Vidrep> Hi _Dario_[21:18:03] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpinmg8l44wo5k2x.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[21:19:00] <Vidrep> axeld, these two tickets looks like they can be batched together https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/11938 and https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12300[21:19:02] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@143.16.90.92.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[21:23:45] <Vidrep> waddlesplash, I prefer the DejaVu font as well[21:25:30] <_Dario_> how're you?[21:25:42] <Vidrep> Good[21:26:14] <Vidrep> Not as much time, or motivation for Haiku lately[21:29:20] <Vidrep> I wish that I knew how to do the bug fixing or coding myself, instead of relying on others[21:29:40] <Vidrep> I think I would be productive[21:30:14] <Vidrep> I know... "read DarkWyrms tutorials!" :)[21:31:11] <_Dario_> don't feel bad... I didn't know enough to fix bugs too[21:31:36] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has joined #haiku[21:31:44] <_Dario_> you are interested in the printing bugs, isn't ?[21:32:08] <Vidrep> Whichever bugs present themselves on any given task[21:32:47] <Vidrep> Last month it was CD/DVD burning, this month printing :)[21:33:49] <_Dario_> I buyed a pair of blank CDs to test it[21:34:23] <_Dario_> I remember that you tell me that the burning app was updated recently, if I remember well...[21:34:23] <Vidrep> I have over 80 open bug reports on trac (82 to be exact)[21:35:30] <Vidrep> I try to review each one, every so often, too see if any can be closed[21:35:58] <Vidrep> _D[21:37:06] <Vidrep> _Dario_, try out our rewrite of BurnItNow and give us some feedback. I'm sure there are things we missed, bugs, or needed enhancements[21:37:48] <_Dario_> I will do it, I promess :-)[21:37:58] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:38:38] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@2.123.38.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:38:46] <_Dario_> sorry, I wanted to say "I promise"[21:39:09] <Vidrep> If your burner gives you a "'ADAPTEC ' 'ACB-5500 ' 'FAKE' " once in a while, it's not a Haiku bug[21:39:28] <Vidrep> That's a known bug with CDRTools[21:40:11] <Vidrep> Just so you know ahead of time...:)[21:40:36] <_Dario_> :-D[21:41:42] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[21:42:26] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:46:35] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #haiku[21:58:08] *** cmkat <cmkat!~AndChat20@181.141.128.125> has joined #haiku[21:59:14] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:03:48] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!bc68d95e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.104.217.94> has joined #haiku[22:05:36] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has joined #haiku[22:09:20] <BrunoSpr> hi all... there should be an PDF Translator... The only working one to get a print to file PDF I found is within Scribus! In Scribus you can export your Document (Text and Images) to PDF .[22:09:57] <BrunoSpr> Even in Wonderbrush there is no PDF export...[22:10:59] <BrunoSpr> Because printing in Haiku is a problem... there should be at least a PDF export abailable...[22:11:54] <_Dario_> there isn't a PDFPrinter available?[22:12:45] <BrunoSpr> No not at all thats the strange thing I just realized...[22:13:02] <BrunoSpr> the one in the printer preferences is not working![22:13:18] <_Dario_> oh, I didn't know it[22:13:27] <BrunoSpr> unfortunatelly.... the one in Scribus is written in Python and works great...[22:14:05] <BrunoSpr> there is a print to file option and an PDF -Writer in the printer prefs... but it doesnt work[22:14:28] <BrunoSpr> I tried it almost the whole day...[22:14:53] <BrunoSpr> Without a proper PDF export you cannot work productive...[22:17:55] <_Dario_> you are right: I tried it but make a mess with the fonts[22:19:08] <BrunoSpr> and no colour[22:19:33] <BrunoSpr> yes the fonts are not printed correct[22:19:42] <_Dario_> in the test I did, the works apparently works, but the rest looks bad[22:19:51] <BrunoSpr> you get only the standard font...[22:20:43] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@82-132-224-129.dab.02.net> has joined #haiku[22:20:46] <BrunoSpr> yes thats not good ... I just find out... some coder should fix it...[22:21:22] <BrunoSpr> try Scribus its export to PDF... it should work like this...[22:32:55] <bbjimmy> With DejaVu now back in the default install does this break packages that require DejaVu?[22:34:16] <Vidrep> There's a PDFTranslator in HaikuDepot. However, there is a problem with one of its dependencies[22:35:24] <BrunoSpr> should be important to get this PDF Translator to work...[22:35:43] <Vidrep> "nothing provide lib:libpng>=16.17.0 needed by openjpeg-2.1.1-2"[22:35:56] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.46.225.97> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:35:57] <Vidrep> I bet it's a typo in the build recipe[22:36:00] <BrunoSpr> Even Wonderbrush has so no PDF export at the moment[22:36:09] <krbtgt|a> printtopdf on latest hrevs makes some fucky looking PDFs[22:36:10] <BrunoSpr> hopefully...[22:36:28] <BrunoSpr> yes its horrible...[22:37:15] <Vidrep> Maybe if enough of us speak out, maybe one of the devs will look into fixing it[22:37:40] <Vidrep> They're probably unaware that there is a problem[22:37:43] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!bc68d95e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.104.217.94> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[22:37:50] <krbtgt|a> they're swamped a bit already; might be worth checking trac[22:37:57] <krbtgt|a> and filing a new ticket if there isn't an applicable one[22:38:09] <BrunoSpr> What to do with an OS not printing at all even without PDF export?![22:38:19] <Vidrep> Bug reports welcome[22:38:23] <krbtgt|a> http://i.imgur.com/PWGiR2A.png[22:38:29] <Vidrep> Patches more welcome :)[22:38:30] <BrunoSpr> I am really shocked at the moment[22:40:49] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BS@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:41:33] <Vidrep> "nothing provide lib:libpng>=16.17.0 needed by openjpeg-2.1.1-2"" -> That should probably be libpng 1.6.17, NOT 16.17.0[22:56:53] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD75345.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[22:56:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[23:01:10] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FD75345.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:05:49] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/282b96933ade...11b9e1a76cb0[23:05:50] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 11b9e1a - buildmaster/checkbuilders: Fix output on successful connection[23:08:52] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:14:07] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[23:14:47] <Vidrep> I just tried creating a PDF document on 64 bit. Nothing but a blank document.[23:14:59] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-047-087.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[23:15:27] <Vidrep> x86_gcc2 does works, but hangs.[23:15:58] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:16:26] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:23:01] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[23:38:16] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:45:25] *** AmixAros <AmixAros!~Amix4@140.65.45.31.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[23:45:33] <AmixAros> hello there[23:54:46] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/11b9e1a76cb0...852b748f06c1[23:54:47] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 852b748 - buildmaster: Fix remote builders. #117