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[00:00:18] <krbtgt|a> http://minisoc.xyz/HaikuMono/ <-- what I did the past few days
[00:14:23] <Begasus> nice that you put it down somewhere krbtgt|a
[00:14:41] <Begasus> maybe someone could point out what's missing :)
[00:16:18] <ohnx|> krbtgt|a: nice :p
[00:16:32] <krbtgt|a> i've submitted patches to mono upstream
[00:16:43] <krbtgt|a> hopefully i can work with them on the reflection bug and get mono shippable in ports
[00:24:23] <tidux> krbtgt|a: nice
[00:24:38] <tidux> so does your port include the winforms library or is it just shell stuff?
[00:36:28] <Begasus> going down here ... g'night peeps
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[00:50:44] <krbtgt|a> tidux: winforms will need a driver
[00:53:25] <tsundoku> I'm taking a look at haiku for the first time in a while and I'd like some advice on video cards.
[00:54:01] <tsundoku> currently looking into multiple monitor support and it's hard to get a clear answer on what can be done because some people count the imperfect support in things like the old radeon driver and other people don't
[00:54:27] <krbtgt|a> as the person who recommended the radeon hd series, i recommend the radeon hd series
[00:54:30] <tsundoku> I have two 2560x1600 displays that I'd like to be able to use, even if the driver cheats and windows aren't centered perfectly, etc.
[00:54:51] <tsundoku> my doubt about radeon HD is that people online are saying it only supports one monitor and that you need to use the old radeon driver if you want two
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[01:03:14] <gmw> o/
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[01:20:50] <tidux> tsundoku: I haven't tried Haiku on AMD in years, but I will say it works well with Intel and vmware
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[02:37:59] <tsundoku> tidux: multiple monitors? that is the specific question
[02:38:28] <tsundoku> if there's a card/driver combination that works, I can just buy one. I'm not hung up on radeon
[02:39:08] <tsundoku> and again i'm not asking about "proper" multi-monitor support. any method that can extend the display across two screens is fine.
[02:40:06] <krbtgt|a> i presume xinerama has immunized a generation of hackers to multimonitor raindances
[02:42:00] <tsundoku> I'd use intel, but the machine only has one digital output onboard, so that doesn't solve the issue
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[06:17:59] <owenca> hello
[06:19:15] <owenca> can anyone help me with deleting an empty commit on a fork?
[06:20:00] <owenca> https://github.com/owenca/WheresMyMouse/commit/a19ac31cc35aa866af848bce08bbe111e404e58f
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[06:48:53] <owenca> nvm took care of it
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[07:06:57] <stargater> moin
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[07:08:26] <PulkoMandy> tsundoku: hi, multi monitor is only possible with the old drivers (radeon but not radeon-hd, I think also matrox and S3 trio drivers). None of the modern drivers support it in any way, yet
[07:08:42] <PulkoMandy> we have a Google Summer of Code idea to improve the situation, we'll see if a student is interested in it
[07:09:48] <PulkoMandy> and I don't know if the old Radeons 7000 to 9250 or so can drive two 2560x1600 displays
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[07:33:03] <johnny_b> PulkoMandy: not very likely
[07:35:53] <PulkoMandy> yes I think the framebuffer size was limited to 2048x2048 total under Linux back when I used this setup
[07:36:07] <PulkoMandy> not sure about the Haiku drivers, I'd have to try but my displays are too low res :)
[07:37:10] <johnny_b> those cards support 4:3 resolutions iirc
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[15:28:21] <Begasus> 'lo peeps
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[15:41:50] <Begas_VM> would setting LDFLAGS work to set the path to the Qt libs from scummvm_tools?
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[15:51:26] <Begas_VM> bugger ... fatal error: wx/generic/filepickerg.h: No such file or directory
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[15:59:53] <Begasus> Dane__, ! ;-)
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[16:01:17] <HaikuUser> Hi Begas_VM sorry, computer had to be rebooted
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[16:01:34] <Dane__> Hi Begasus
[16:02:06] <Begasus> how's it going?
[16:03:52] <Dane__> Good, though I'm dealing with the flu right now, so don't get too close. :-)
[16:04:41] <leszek> hmm... video export on haiku with clockwerk does not export audio tried various codecs. Running on a nightly. Is there a way? Do I need to download some libs? Running the latest nightly
[16:05:24] <leszek> or is the broken ffmpeg here also the cause ? "General System error" warning popping up telling me not able to write the audio stuff
[16:06:04] <Begasus> ;) hope you feel better in a few days Dane__ :)
[16:10:02] <Begas_VM> is there a command "compile" available for Haiku?
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[17:01:18] <Dane__> Begas_VM thanks
[17:01:25] <Dane__> Begasus thanks
[17:01:31] <Dane__> (dang auto-complete)
[17:05:09] <Begasus> np, we are one :D
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[18:49:13] <Begasus> 'lo waddlesplash!
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[18:49:53] <waddlesplash> yo
[18:50:18] <waddlesplash> as you saw, we finally have wxWidgets :)
[18:51:10] <Begasus> yeah ;)
[18:51:25] <Begasus> would be good if I could get it to work with scummvm_tools ;)
[18:51:58] <Begasus> ps, great work so far, I presume some effords still need to be made to have a full functioning version of it :)
[18:52:46] <Begasus> I'm still missing some headers for it ...
[18:53:17] <waddlesplash> dunno about those tbh
[18:53:25] <waddlesplash> oh
[18:53:58] <Begasus> they are in the source, but seems they don't get installed ...
[18:54:00] <waddlesplash> Begasus: this is wxw 3.1, if scummvm is still aiming at 2.8 or even 3.0 that might be the cause of the breakage
[18:54:30] <Begasus> ah ... sec (although scummvm_tools didn't complain about a version)
[18:57:43] <Begasus> but even then ... the headers (for instance "filepickerg.h" is in the wx/generic folder) are there :)
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[19:02:16] <PulkoMandy> johnny_b: resolutions aspect ratio is not hardcoded in video cards, timings can be set freely. I run a Radeon 7000 on BeOS with a 16:10 display without any problems (had to backport our screenmode tool to BeOS so I could set it with a modeline however)
[19:02:35] <waddlesplash> Begasus: add command output of wx-config --cxxflags to cxxflags?
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[19:03:40] <Begas_VM> waddlesplash? do you want me to check the output?
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[19:04:27] <Begas_VM> wx-config --cppflags
[19:04:28] <Begas_VM> -I/packages/wxwidgets_x86-3.1.0-1/.self/lib/x86/wx/include/qt-unicode-3.1 -I/packages/wxwidgets_x86-3.1.0-1/.self/develop/headers/x86/wx-3.1 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DWXUSINGDLL -D__WXQT__
[19:05:03] <Begas_VM> wx-config --cxxflags
[19:05:04] <Begas_VM> -I/packages/wxwidgets_x86-3.1.0-1/.self/lib/x86/wx/include/qt-unicode-3.1 -I/packages/wxwidgets_x86-3.1.0-1/.self/develop/headers/x86/wx-3.1 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DWXUSINGDLL -D__WXQT__ -fPIC -I/packages/qt5_x86-5.6.1-1/.self/develop/headers/x86/QtOpenGL -I/packages/qt5_x86-5.6.1-1/.self/develop/headers/x86 -I/packages/qt5_x86-5.6.1-1/.self/develop/headers/x86/QtWidgets -I/packages/qt5_x86-5.6.1-1/.self/develop/headers/x86
[19:05:04] <Begas_VM> -I/packages/qt5_x86-5.6.1-1/.self/develop/headers/x86/QtGui -I/packages/qt5_x86-5.6.1-1/.self/develop/headers/x86 -I/packages/qt5_x86-5.6.1-1/.self/develop/headers/x86/QtTest -I/packages/qt5_x86-5.6.1-1/.self/develop/headers/x86 -I/packages/qt5_x86-5.6.1-1/.self/develop/headers/x86/QtCore -I/packages/qt5_x86-5.6.1-1/.self/develop/headers/x86
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[19:07:38] <Begas_VM> for scummvm_tools I used " CPPFLAGS="-I /boot/system/develop/headers/x86/QtCore/" ./configure" earlier to check it out
[19:08:28] <johnny_b> PulkoMandy: okie, thanks
[19:08:48] <Begas_VM> it picked up the Qt stuff, but then stroked at the missing headers for wxwidgets
[19:12:39] <Begas_VM> [x86] ~/Desktop/scummvm-tools-1.9.0> make
[19:12:40] <Begas_VM> C++ gui/pages.o
[19:12:40] <Begas_VM> In file included from gui/pages.cpp:34:0:
[19:12:41] <Begas_VM> /packages/wxwidgets_x86-3.1.0-1/.self/develop/headers/x86/wx-3.1/wx/filepicker.h:136:40: fatal error: wx/generic/filepickerg.h: No such file or directory
[19:12:41] <Begas_VM> compilation terminated.
[19:12:42] <Begas_VM> Makefile.common:363: recipe for target 'gui/pages.o' failed
[19:12:43] <Begas_VM> make: *** [gui/pages.o] Error 1
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[19:32:14] <gmw> Hi all! Anyone alive?
[19:32:54] <krbtgt|a> no, we're all ghosts
[19:32:57] <krbtgt|a> :)
[19:33:07] <gmw> Oh shoot :-)
[19:33:24] <gmw> One Kerberos ticket, please :-)
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[19:49:17] <waddlesplash> gmw: we're alive. :p
[19:50:58] <gmw> Cool. I'm looking for someone with experience of IPv6 on Haiku. I've been googling a bit and grepping around the source, but haven't been able to figure out if IPv6 is supposed to work out of the (Be)box or not. Anyone know?
[19:56:17] <gmw> to clarify: other machines (FreeBSD/macOS) on my network autoconfigure using SLAAC no problem
[19:57:01] <tidux> iirc v6 is disabled for now
[19:57:41] <tidux> which doesn't bother me too much since I run Haiku in a NAT'd VM until the hardware support for GPUs, powersave, etc. gets a bit better :P
[20:09:25] <tsundoku> PulkoMandy: thanks, that's what I suspected
[20:09:38] <tsundoku> and I don't see any older cards that will support my displays
[20:09:49] <tsundoku> re: dual monitor support
[20:10:27] <gmw> tidux: Ok, thanks for the heads up
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[20:11:40] <waddlesplash> gmw: IPv6 support should work in theory but is broken for a variety of reasons I think
[20:11:56] <waddlesplash> gmw: not at my PC ATM so I can't find you the relevant tickets
[20:12:12] <waddlesplash> feel free to work on it if you have the know how and time :)
[20:15:57] <gmw> waddlesplash: thanks. I'll take a look at it, but I won't hold my breath :-) It's been so long since I did anything in C/C++...
[20:51:18] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: korli * hrev50954 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=90acbbfecb02+%5Eab4bd5d3ce2c
[20:51:19] <HAIKU-irker458> 90acbbfecb02: pthread: have pthread_setschedparam return 0 on success.
[20:55:39] <krbtgt|a> now, this is interesting
[20:55:43] <krbtgt|a> ^ that commit, that is
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[21:14:52] <circ-user> Today is leading-underscore day, FT_Init_Freetype undefinied -fno-leading-underscore, for both, now problem gone but memcpy undefinied etc.stupid me, stupid gcc..nobody loves me even compiler :/
[21:25:53] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/72d277c84a58...9301a9ce8044
[21:25:54] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash 9301a9c - wxwidgets: rename to wxQt, move to dev-qt directory.
[21:26:31] <circ-user> wxwidgets depends on Qt what the hell?
[21:26:50] <tidux> wxqt does anyway
[21:26:53] <waddlesplash> circ-user: yes, our wx port uses the Qt backend
[21:26:55] <krbtgt|a> unfortunate, but no one has written a Be API replacement
[21:27:04] <waddlesplash> instead of the GTK backend as Linux uses
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[21:36:48] <Begasus> messing with wxqt enough for today ;)
[21:37:45] <Begasus> g'night peeps
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[21:39:24] <circ-user> BeATLES :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsxtImDVMig
[21:39:58] <circ-user> BeGE's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JoZS6LgqYI
[21:41:50] <circ-user> and some polish music, about today, just watch, sometimes loveing is very difficult. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEiRPInizgQ
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[22:00:04] <PulkoMandy> gmw: hi, if you look at our GSoC ideas, there is one about IPv6, with links to various tickets
[22:00:22] <PulkoMandy> the implementation is not complete, probably some not too hard to fix things there
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[22:21:10] <tsundoku> well that didn't work well
[22:21:39] <tsundoku> I tried a Radeon 5450 with Haiku today and when it claims to be doing 2560x1600, it's actually doing 1280x1600
[22:21:52] <tsundoku> what information should I gather for a bug report before I take out the card?
[22:22:05] <tsundoku> or is "here is what happens" sufficient?
[22:22:24] <krbtgt|a> screeninfo?
[22:22:27] <tsundoku> ok
[22:22:35] <DHowett> what on earth
[22:22:36] <krbtgt|a> screenmode too, just in case
[22:22:43] <DHowett> krbtgt|a: I learned about the krbtgt user just the other day, and now here you are
[22:23:31] <krbtgt|a> i've hacked into all your remote authentication systems
[22:23:39] <krbtgt|a> thats how you know me
[22:23:45] <tsundoku> I really want to spend some time living in haiku so I can make notes of what works and what doesn't, but if I can't get a working video solution that's probably not going to happen
[22:25:37] <tsundoku> krbtgt|a: screeninfo and screenmode don't report anything interesting
[22:25:49] <tsundoku> just the name of the card and the resolution it believes it is putting out
[22:25:54] <gmw> PulkoMandy: re: IPv6: Thanks, I'll take a look at it
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[23:01:24] <tidux> is PTY_ITERATION or FIRST_PTY_LETTER defined in the headerfiles anywhere near bsd/pty.h ?
[23:02:44] <tidux> I'm working on a port of Emacs 25 and the compile is getting stuck on pty-related code
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[23:45:34] <Vidrep> Hi
[23:45:44] <waddlesplash> tidux: you can grep through headers to check I suppose
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[23:50:00] <Vidrep> waddlesplash, just wanted to say I enjoyed the interview you did. You represented haiku well
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[23:51:21] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: :)
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