February 9, 2017 
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has joined #haiku[03:38:41] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50942 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=aae431375e18+%5E551b87cb9cbd[03:38:42] <HAIKU-irker458> aae431375e18: BJson: Fixes, tweaks, and behavioral changes based on the JSON Minefield Tests.[03:40:34] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-thvtagrqerqvifhz> has joined #haiku[03:40:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[03:41:19] *** tresh <tresh!~tresh@92.188.19.156> has joined #haiku[03:50:58] *** tresh <tresh!~tresh@92.188.19.156> has quit IRC (Quit: Got Terminated!)[03:59:23] *** Slor <Slor!~slor@unaffiliated/slor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[03:59:23] *** drawkula <drawkula!~username@p4FC125B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[03:59:36] *** Slor <Slor!~slor@unaffiliated/slor> has joined #haiku[03:59:57] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[04:00:11] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #haiku[04:11:36] *** drawkula <drawkula!~username@p4FC125B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[04:17:06] <tidux> how do I force haikuporter to build a _x86 package on gcc2h?[04:22:50] <waddlesplash> just add _x86 to package name[04:22:54] <waddlesplash> e.g. bepdf_x86[04:26:27] <tidux> ~> haikuporter bepdf_x86[04:26:27] <tidux> Checking if any package-infos need to be updated ...[04:26:27] <tidux> Looking for stale dependency-infos ...[04:26:27] <tidux> Error: bepdf_x86 not found in repository[04:27:26] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[04:30:48] <tidux> f/redraw[04:32:01] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9c782.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[05:04:31] *** [JJ]Albert <[JJ]Albert!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:1cb8:f2a1:aab8:4f74> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:07:31] <waddlesplash> tidux: BePDF was just an example[05:07:42] <waddlesplash> I don't think it's configured for _x86 secondary arch[05:08:36] <tidux> so when specifying a version string is it foo-1.2.3_x86 or foo_x86-1.2.3 ?[05:10:01] <waddlesplash> the latter[05:10:05] <waddlesplash> iirc[05:13:08] <tidux> hmm, just using _x86 with no version string didn't work either[05:13:21] <tidux> which is odd because I have the _x86 version of that package installed[05:15:58] <waddlesplash> when's the last time you updated your haikuports an haikuporter?[05:16:29] <tidux> this is a fresh clone from today[05:18:13] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/180b2367fbad...b0ad3b25bbea[05:18:15] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] waddlesplash b0ad3b2 - Tweak some commands.[05:20:27] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: autocommitter * hrev50943 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=56c500389f2c+%5Eaae431375e18[05:20:28] <HAIKU-irker458> 56c500389f2c: Update pci.ids from pciids.sourceforge.net[05:24:55] *** solidair <solidair!~lsitongia@c-73-14-172-37.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[05:25:16] *** solidair <solidair!~lsitongia@c-73-14-172-37.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[05:26:45] *** solidair <solidair!~lsitongia@c-73-14-172-37.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:29:54] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~chatzilla@pool-173-49-14-128.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[05:34:07] *** DHowett <DHowett!~dustin@velocitylimitless/awesome/ultraviolet/DHowett> has quit IRC (Quit: It's just a font? 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I wear black on the outside because black is how I feel on the inside... Uso negro por fuera porque negro me siento por dentro... http://youtu.be/xldmXca0kvg ...The Smiths - "Unloveable")[11:37:10] <Wizard> leszek: hi[11:41:03] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has joined #haiku[11:43:56] <munchaus1n> Morning[11:45:02] <munchaus1n> Can anyone point me at PulkoMandy's buildbot status page?[11:45:10] <munchaus1n> Having trouble finding it[11:46:24] <munchaus1n> Ah, found, but something seems broken http://pulkomandy.tk/~pulkomandy/[11:46:45] *** munchaus1n is now known as munchausen[11:48:19] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qlxmbmtznsqrdzdk> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[11:49:16] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[11:50:15] <munchausen> Ah just took a while loading. No openjdk there. Anyone tried building it lately by any chance?[11:57:16] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@77.79.212.94> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:59:28] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[11:59:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[12:03:12] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@77.79.212.94> has joined #haiku[12:13:18] *** liquid <liquid!~liquid@79.115.24.95> has joined #haiku[12:17:57] <liquid> hi people. A new Haiku release planned soon ? the last one is from 2912. And,btw, the Intel HD 4600 driver support has improved ? If I remember well, it was still shaky. Arigatou[12:18:10] <liquid> 2012* I meant[12:19:01] <liquid> (and no,i dont want nightlies..they're ..flighties )[12:19:43] <leszek> liquid: a beta is in the making. Though I don't expect it to come so soon[12:19:50] <leszek> some showstopper bugs atm[12:21:17] <liquid> leszek, I see. I would love to ditch my linux for Haiku,on this haswell . I tried it time ago, on an old dual core,man,the GUI was snappy[12:24:21] <leszek> yeah I just a few days ago turned my old laptop on which I thought was broken down and almost took everything apart from it so only 1 GiB RAM left in it and a crappy hdd. It still had the alpha 4.1 on it. I upgraded that to the latest nightly and it keeps flying. I am just wowed again by how fluid it runs.[12:24:48] <leszek> liquid: why not trying installing a nightly. Now that packagemanager is available you can easily upgrade it without reinstalling[12:24:56] <leszek> *try[12:25:15] <leszek> did that already 2 days in a row and it works fine[12:25:48] <leszek> only thing that bugs me currently is the mp3 ffmpeg bug. Most of my mp3s don't play in the default mediaplayer. Gladly vlc exists and even SoundPlay still works fine :)[12:28:37] <liquid> I hear you. Wish I still had that old PC. I might even try a nightly, IF, it should be update-able to the Beta,when it comes up[12:28:39] <Wizard> :)[12:28:48] <Wizard> What about BeAMP? :P[12:31:34] *** stippi1 <stippi1!~Thunderbi@p5DC22B81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[12:31:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi1[12:32:26] <liquid> what about skype ? ! yeah,micro$oft will make a haiku/beos port. . I know its spyware, but theres no good alternative,to my knowledge[12:33:14] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p5DC22B81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:33:14] *** stippi1 is now known as stippi[12:41:59] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[12:43:12] *** stargate1 <stargate1!~stargater@x4db9f375.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[12:45:04] *** liquid <liquid!~liquid@79.115.24.95> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:46:30] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9c782.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:46:51] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a776fca98248...077ae2288a75[12:46:52] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson 077ae22 - mpv: improve BUILD, bump REVISION due to libass update.[13:03:49] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[13:22:35] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:23:22] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[13:23:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[13:40:30] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@77.79.212.94> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:42:46] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: I need sleep, or I'm drunk, or both)[13:51:16] *** knarfy <knarfy!~knarf@143.252.82.79.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[13:53:02] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@2a00:f41:18ef:1aed:2677:3ff:fe43:9358> has joined #haiku[14:12:11] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[14:16:32] *** Hugen_ <Hugen_!~chatzilla@cpc90748-finc18-2-0-cust471.4-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haiku[14:16:43] <Hugen_> jessicah hey[14:30:04] *** stippi1 <stippi1!~Thunderbi@p5DC22B81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[14:30:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi1[14:33:14] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p5DC22B81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[14:33:14] *** stippi1 is now known as stippi[14:48:30] *** aleonard <aleonard!~aleonard@2607:fad8:4:6:bb40:5ef0:ddf0:30fa> has joined #haiku[14:54:09] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qssxvgcvfzmtfnph> has joined #haiku[15:00:24] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!~xemdetia@pool-173-76-168-129.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[15:03:22] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC ()[15:06:57] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[15:18:59] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+9/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/02854eef93c3...c2aa24254769[15:19:01] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] mmuman c2aa242 - blog/mmu_man: Add FOSDEM report (#29)[15:30:08] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p5DC22B81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[15:32:02] *** flos <flos!~flos@121.32.71.169> has joined #haiku[15:37:22] *** Hugen_ <Hugen_!~chatzilla@cpc90748-finc18-2-0-cust471.4-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:41:02] <stargate1> huu https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2017-02-07_the_lunduke_hour_had_me_as_a_guest_to_talk_about_haiku/ one singel git repro? thats not true, since package and pm the most stuff outside (bash, libs, etc) in haiku porter tree![15:42:50] <stargate1> huu2 = fast? haiku not faster , eg linux are faster or chromeos boot faster[15:43:30] <stargate1> this video are one of dream, thats not realistics[15:45:41] *** tsundoku_ is now known as tsundoku[15:46:34] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@2a00:f41:18ef:1aed:2677:3ff:fe43:9358> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[15:48:55] <Barrett> I want the VLC beret[15:58:00] <leszek> stargate1: listen carefully. It mentions faster on older machines. (10 year old machines)[15:58:25] <stargate1> haha[15:59:00] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@apn-31-0-66-157.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #haiku[15:59:50] <leszek> at least on my crappy old laptop with 1 GiB RAM and an old HDD it is faster to boot and faster when it comes to files management. At least when I compare it to something like a full blown plasma or gnome desktop. Even XFCE runs slower on this machine. LXDEs pcmanfm is also not as fast as tracker[16:00:15] <leszek> though the efm (from e19) is appr. as fast as tracker (not scientifically tested though)[16:02:09] <leszek> stargate1: do you have haiku running on real hardware ?[16:27:40] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!~xemdetia@pool-173-76-168-129.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:28:07] *** gbl08ma[m] <gbl08ma[m]!gbl08mamat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-kiihrkemwkdbxxyv> has joined #haiku[16:29:52] *** auronandace <auronandace!~auronanda@2a02:c7d:4427:e200:c9a1:caba:1dce:8bb9> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[16:34:20] *** auronandace <auronandace!~auronanda@2a02:c7d:4427:e200:6d41:937d:2507:c3c9> has joined #haiku[16:34:40] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:46:00] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-10-123.moscow.rt.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:53:31] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-10-123.moscow.rt.ru> has joined #haiku[16:54:36] *** flos <flos!~flos@121.32.71.169> has quit IRC (Quit: Those who know don't tell.)[17:04:06] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d8592fd.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[17:04:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:05:17] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!~xemdetia@129.42.208.167> has joined #haiku[17:05:27] *** Dane__ <Dane__!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[17:06:33] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has joined #haiku[17:06:33] *** HaikuUser is now known as Dane__[17:06:42] <Dane__> hello campers[17:07:08] <humdinger> hello Mr. Radio[17:07:11] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@235-43-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #haiku[17:07:18] <Dane__> wb mmu_man[17:07:25] <Dane__> howdy humdinger[17:07:39] <mmu_man> re[17:07:45] <Dane__> Did everybody see waddlesplash's big interview the other day?[17:08:33] <humdinger> I did, and liked it![17:09:25] <Dane__> He did a nice job, didn't he?[17:09:34] <Dane__> Seems like a likeable guy. :-)[17:10:37] <Dane__> One thing he mentioned is something we're seeing a lot here. When Haiku is left running for a few days, the kernel accumulates resources and eventually it KDLs. Very consistent across builds and on multiple computers here.[17:10:52] <humdinger> yep. still young and fresh... :)[17:10:56] <Dane__> humdinger :-)[17:13:00] <Dane__> who's the kernel guru I can talk to about that?[17:14:25] <humdinger> I guess ingo and axel, mostly. but they aren't as active as they used to, as you know...[17:14:41] <humdinger> best file ticket's with all the info you can get.[17:15:52] <humdinger> ticket's? ... tickets...[17:16:18] <Dane__> No tickie, no washie.[17:18:33] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~chatzilla@pool-173-49-14-128.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[17:22:11] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[17:34:15] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #haiku[17:35:44] *** humdinger_ <humdinger_!~humdinger@x5d8592fd.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[17:35:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger_[17:38:00] *** humdinger 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has joined #haiku[19:31:32] <lelldorin> Where do I place encoders and decoder: /boot/home/config/non-packaged/add-ons/encoders and /boot/home/config/non-packaged/add-ons/decoders (out of HaikuDepot installed files)?[19:34:31] <humdinger_> lelldorin: no sure. can't you see where the package would've put them?[19:34:47] <humdinger_> with "package list -package-name-"[19:35:05] <lelldorin> no package install[19:35:08] <lelldorin> manual[19:35:28] <humdinger_> but you got the hpkg from HakUDepot?[19:35:40] <lelldorin> no hpkg[19:35:45] <lelldorin> install without package[19:36:04] <humdinger_> I misunderstood your mentioning of HaikuDepot then.. :)[19:36:13] <Barrett> lelldorin, just as an advice isn't it better to look where the system installs it?[19:36:21] <humdinger_> I suspect it's /boot/system/non-packaged/add-ons/media/plugins[19:36:22] <Barrett> the package layout is identical for non-packaged[19:36:29] <Barrett> humdinger_, yes I was saying the same[19:36:47] <Barrett> unfortunately my vboxdrv is broken from last update so I can't check[19:36:54] <Barrett> but I'd have done exactly that..[19:37:23] <Barrett> since a lot of people seems confused by that, maybe it deserves an article[19:37:43] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:37:45] <humdinger_> at least in the packaged hierarchy there's a raw_decoder already there.[19:37:53] * Barrett try to recall how vboxdrv is supposed to be recompiled[19:38:19] <lelldorin> humdinger_: : i am working on a tutorial to install files by hand if they does not available over haikudepot, so i need the right places for the examples. thanks[19:40:56] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[19:45:12] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50944 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6c9415e3caa9+%5E56c500389f2c[19:45:13] 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*** Chatoune <Chatoune!~eddy@LFbn-1-4282-143.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #haiku[20:29:33] <Chatoune> Hi, I need some help. I would like to use the 3440x1440 screen resolution running Haiku in VMWare. I have calculated all the timings but do not know what to modify and how.[20:30:18] *** lorglas <lorglas!5cc4656a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.196.101.106> has joined #haiku[20:30:39] <lorglas> Hello[20:31:53] <johnny_b> ahoy[20:34:40] <lorglas> @bbjimmy: yab doesn't function on Hrev50916. Draw active tab Problem. I have installed the lastest Version from our repo -> yab (build 1.7.5.3.3). When i go to the src folder and run make, i get an error: recipe for target yab faild[20:34:57] <lorglas> make error 4[20:36:21] <PulkoMandy> Chatoune: the "screenmode" command can set custom screen modes using modelines[20:36:49] <bbjimmy> hmm sounds like there is an old libyab.so being used.[20:37:47] <bbjimmy> did you have an earlier version installed in a non-packaged folder?[20:39:02] <Chatoune> Thanks PulkoMandy, I am trying right now to use it.[20:39:52] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:40:15] <bbjimmy> lorglas what repo did you install from?[20:41:36] *** jua_ <jua_!~jua@xdsl-89-0-254-199.netcologne.de> has joined #haiku[20:41:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jua_[20:41:37] <jua_> o[20:41:41] <jua_> hey[20:44:30] <PulkoMandy> hi![20:44:48] <jua_> hi PulkoMandy[20:48:45] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has joined #haiku[20:48:45] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:48:45] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has joined #haiku[20:49:32] <Chatoune> PulkoMandy: I have done it using the example I found on discuss. It is working fine.[20:52:17] <lorglas> bbjimmy: from fatelk[20:52:30] <Chatoune> Where should I post a request for a package modification?[20:53:38] <bbjimmy> when was it installed? I had 1.7.5.3-3 up for 1.5 days before I updated haiku and found the change in the tab stuff.[20:53:41] <PulkoMandy> github.com/haikuports/haikuports I think[20:54:03] <bbjimmy> then I re-compiled and re-uploaded.[20:54:14] <Chatoune> Thanks PulkoMandy.[20:54:17] *** Sir_Designer__ <Sir_Designer__!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Quit: 15 minutes with you / oh, I wouldn't say no)[20:54:19] <bbjimmy> might try to un-install abd re-install yab.[20:54:28] <lorglas> bbjimmy: today[20:55:16] <bbjimmy> no linyab in a non-packaged/lib directory?[20:55:26] <bbjimmy> *libayb.so[20:58:49] <lorglas> i installed it and deinstalled it and so on. it doesn't work. When i use the sourcecode from the package and let run the make script. i get errors. it not working, why[21:01:33] <bbjimmy> works fine for me on hrev50937[21:02:22] *** Chatoune <Chatoune!~eddy@LFbn-1-4282-143.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[21:03:57] <lorglas> ok, i update haiku and test it[21:04:36] <bbjimmy> I am building from the source included in the .hpkg[21:05:27] <bbjimmy> It built just fine.[21:06:43] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[21:13:14] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/b0ad3b25bbea...a2a800093d92[21:13:15] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] waddlesplash a2a8000 - Permanently disable downloading from unsafe sources.[21:16:37] <PulkoMandy> waddlesplash: plans to fix the remaining recipes which needed it?[21:16:45] <waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: do we have any?[21:16:48] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:16:50] <PulkoMandy> yes[21:16:51] <waddlesplash> last I checked, only ones using are old recipes[21:17:02] <PulkoMandy> getconf, qemacs, some mpd or mpd client stuff[21:17:30] <PulkoMandy> mmu_man uses it a lot, he upstreams patches, and keeps a recipe up to date against upstream git until the next release[21:17:41] <PulkoMandy> which is the point of having that option[21:17:59] <PulkoMandy> disabling it by default in haikuports.conf sample is ok, but not sure about this way[21:18:50] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/a2a800093d92...9eded64eae8e[21:18:52] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] waddlesplash 9eded64 - Revert "Permanently disable downloading from unsafe sources."[21:19:25] <mmu_man> yeah QEmacs still uses CVS...[21:19:40] <mmu_man> they discussed moving to git but they are like 1.5 active devs :)[21:20:16] <waddlesplash> mmu_man: don't they distribute tarballs?[21:20:19] <waddlesplash> tarballs == safe[21:20:28] <PulkoMandy> not yet for a release with haiku support[21:20:34] <jua_> CVS *shudder*[21:20:36] <PulkoMandy> and they are not in a hurry to do that it seems[21:20:50] <PulkoMandy> jua_: dcraw is still using RCS! but that guy is crazy :>[21:20:55] <jua_> :O[21:21:08] <jessicah> has openbsd finally moved from CVS?[21:21:15] <mmu_man> waddlesplash: still waiting for next release[21:21:19] <jessicah> they were another CVS holdout, as I understood it[21:21:23] <PulkoMandy> (and still, we should update our fork against the latest versions to support more devices in the raw translator...)[21:22:11] <mmu_man> in theory we could still make a checksum of all checkedout files and checksum the list itself...[21:22:14] <mmu_man> but well[21:22:27] <mmu_man> cvs supports passing a date (although that's not exactly a precise commit)[21:22:47] <mmu_man> anyway, got some work to do...[21:22:51] <mmu_man> PHP...[21:22:57] <jua_> :S[21:24:26] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/9eded64eae8e...a7c8774e6fb3[21:24:28] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuporter] waddlesplash a7c8774 - 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fifechan: secondary arch support[22:07:12] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 5b61eca - fife: prepare for secondary arch support[22:07:13] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy da23b45 - libbluray: fix libpng dependency[22:07:15] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy de5b15f - pango: link against libiconv.[22:15:51] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50945 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b33ee35d3f86+%5E6c9415e3caa9[22:15:52] <HAIKU-irker458> b33ee35d3f86: various package updates and additions.[22:33:58] *** aleonard <aleonard!~aleonard@2607:fad8:4:6:bb40:5ef0:ddf0:30fa> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:35:01] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/c2aa24254769...1d92ab133850[22:35:02] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] pulkomandy 1d92ab1 - Add idea about improving our TCP stack.[22:38:46] *** stargate1 <stargate1!~stargater@x4db9f375.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:53:47] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-058-172.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[23:15:42] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:16:11] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:16:31] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A2955C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[23:21:34] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-194-178.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[23:21:57] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:27:27] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 3 commits to master [+1/-3/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/de5b15fbd90f...5e2d71cfb20f[23:27:28] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 92f8625 - 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