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[07:54:18] <HAIKU-irker458> 029008185a5c: Fix NetSurf for BString ABI changes.
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[08:32:49] <Vidrep> Hi
[08:33:33] <humdinger> Hi Vidrep!
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[08:33:58] <Vidrep> Hey humdinger
[08:35:10] <Vidrep> What's new?
[08:35:31] <humdinger> Not much, I think.
[08:35:35] <humdinger> FOSDEM's running.
[08:36:12] <Vidrep> I took a one week break from Haiku
[08:37:10] <humdinger> We missed you :)
[08:37:22] <Vidrep> Yeah right
[08:37:39] <humdinger> No, seriously. It was very quite...
[08:37:42] <humdinger> peaceful.
[08:38:04] <Vidrep> I'm no Valet :)
[08:38:34] <humdinger> He hasn't shown up for a while too...
[08:39:35] <Vidrep> There's a little bit of frustration, but I'll get over it. I still want to help out
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[08:40:34] <humdinger> I understand. I still hope we can push for beta soon...
[08:41:34] <Vidrep> How much of a delay before the Beta branch is created? I know there were a few things yet to be done first
[08:42:34] <Vidrep> ...buildbots, servers, etc
[08:42:47] <humdinger> Nobody can say. One major hurdle is the unavailability of admins to manage those.
[08:43:27] <Vidrep> Who is the release coordinator? Kallisti5?
[08:44:05] <humdinger> He quit after PulkoMandy pointed out that branching without the server infrastructure isn't useful.
[08:44:20] <humdinger> so it's PulkoMandy's narrow shoulders for now.
[08:45:26] <jessicah> I was going to set up server this weekend
[08:45:37] <jessicah> but I'm hospitalised atm
[08:45:39] <HAIKU-irker458> 8d5100ade25e: Added "Get Haiku" beta banner
[08:45:43] <humdinger> On that note ^
[08:45:45] <humdinger> :)
[08:46:00] <humdinger> whoo, jessicah!
[08:46:12] <humdinger> hope it's not too bad.
[08:46:27] <humdinger> but since you're in hospital, it probably is... :(
[08:46:35] <Vidrep> Lots to do and so few people capable of doing what needs to be done.
[08:47:01] <jessicah> well might be having minor surgery tomorrow...
[08:47:29] <humdinger> the damn arm?
[08:48:04] <jessicah> gall bladder
[08:48:12] <humdinger> oh my...
[08:48:25] <Vidrep> Jessicah, are you planning on any further additions to unfit
[08:48:29] <Vidrep> Jedi
[08:48:44] <Vidrep> Damn safari spell checker!!!
[08:48:47] <jessicah> to what?
[08:49:08] <Vidrep> UEFI
[08:49:17] <humdinger> Vidrep: you should use Vision. It prints the exact crap I type...
[08:49:31] <jessicah> not atm
[08:49:32] <Vidrep> I'm on a iPad
[08:50:25] <Vidrep> As crashy as Web+ is, I feel it is still better than Safari on iPad
[08:50:42] <jessicah> :p
[08:50:59] <humdinger> Vidrep: gcc2 or 64bits.
[08:51:09] <humdinger> it's not too bad on gcc2, I feel.
[08:51:19] <humdinger> just keep away from youtube...
[08:51:19] <Vidrep> Safari constantly reloads pages, making too many websites impossible to use
[08:52:22] <Vidrep> Last time I used 64 bit, Web+ was crashing on every launch
[08:53:43] <Vidrep> I was using 32 bit this afternoon, and it behaved OK, but still had some hanging URL's and a couple of crashes
[08:54:09] <Vidrep> Better than a week ago
[08:57:33] <humdinger> I'll merge deepanshu's blog post about GCI
[08:58:38] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] deep-1 17e54c8 - Blog Post GCI 2016 (#26)
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[09:01:02] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb 23eb2bd - Moved GCI graph into deepanshu's blog folder
[09:03:27] <Vidrep> 1:00 am time to sleep
[09:03:40] <humdinger> nighty night Vidrep
[09:03:57] <Vidrep> Chat in the morning
[09:04:09] <Vidrep> Keep up the good work
[09:04:45] <humdinger> ahh. formatting hell on the blog post... no wysiwyg sucks.
[09:04:47] <Vidrep> It would be a shame to get derailed so close to a beta release
[09:05:13] <Vidrep> Bye
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[09:11:24] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb 8a173dd - Fixed markdown formatting of GCI blog post
[09:11:42] <johnny_b> humdinger: testing on localhost before putting it live?
[09:11:57] <humdinger> I'm on haiku.
[09:12:04] <humdinger> no hugo for me
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[09:13:05] <humdinger> hmm... the link to the graph has no png extension.
[09:13:06] <johnny_b> then it wasn't a bright choise imho
[09:13:12] <johnny_b> choice
[09:14:25] <humdinger> pfft... the markdown in the editor shows correct, but the website doesn't...
[09:23:11] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb 0e9faa3 - Convert GCI blog to HTML
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[09:30:57] <Not-d513> [haiku/website] humdingerb 21e0a29 - Correcting text in GCI blog
[09:35:33] <stargater> humdinger: web+ ?
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[09:53:07] <humdinger> sorry. lost connection...
[10:02:14] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 9cee754 - NetSurf: fix packaging
[10:06:06] <HAIKU-irker458> 38d20cc901f8: Fix NetSurf package again.
[10:10:02] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] return 766b2ce - keystone: create recipe
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[10:36:18] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 4cd4b6e - box2d: fix build.
[10:48:14] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 6bb664a - Switch cacerts source back to curl now that they provide https
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[11:32:16] <circ-user> "Last time I used 64 bit, Web+ was crashing on every launch" - looks like someone have got a fun with int32-pointer arithmetics, most common reason 64 compilation fails but 32 bit is solid rock :D
[11:35:54] <jessicah> :p
[11:36:13] <circ-user> I have also 2 weeks no time for haiku, I saw Premislaus has quit testing haiku..
[11:36:35] <circ-user> I was angry too for a while :P
[11:37:42] <circ-user> You know what? Lot of machinery in facilities still uses Windows XP Embedded, even made @2016
[11:37:55] <circ-user> boot time is 15s due the ssd's inside
[11:37:56] <jessicah> :)
[11:38:19] <jessicah> I'm slowly working on fixing warnings
[11:38:50] <jessicah> so more of the codebase can use -Werror
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[11:39:03] <jessicah> it's very laborious...
[11:39:12] <tojoko> hej there.
[11:39:16] <tojoko> jessicah, what time is it!? ;)
[11:39:22] <circ-user> Hope to see Haiku some day.. Microsoft quit Windows CE, RT, XP market.. now Android is most commonly used on such devices.. but Siemens still sell even WinCE based
[11:39:28] <jessicah> 11:39pm
[11:40:02] <jessicah> it's hard to sleep in a hospital
[11:40:07] <tojoko> jessicah, wow - that's exactly +12 hours to me. :)
[11:40:30] <jessicah> plus they will be waking me at 2am for more antibiotics
[11:40:35] <jessicah> :)
[11:40:43] <tojoko> jessicah, what? hospital? sorry to hear that. accident or just the ... oh, ok i see.
[11:40:51] <tojoko> hope i could help.
[11:40:53] <circ-user> There is ReactOS could be ideal for them, but Haiku also.. there is no need for hardware super duper fast accelerations for sound, video, 3d, there is no need for super duper fast web+ browser.. just to be some.. super duper fast boot is needed, and nice API, portability to x86,arm,powerpc.. Haiku fits almost all..
[11:41:03] <jessicah> gall bladder problem
[11:41:23] <jessicah> think they'll be removing it tomorrow
[11:42:11] <jessicah> I love Haiku :)
[11:42:31] <jessicah> definitely my favourite os
[11:42:44] <johnny_b> 8)
[11:43:57] <tojoko> jessicah, ohh, i was afraid the gall - had to look up gall bladder. my personal horror operation, since my professor told me about that. but i guess its especially bad for men.
[11:44:35] <jessicah> it should be straight forward
[11:44:42] <tojoko> ohh, no i mix all up with kiddney stones ...
[11:44:51] <jessicah> ah
[11:45:08] <jessicah> it's very small
[11:46:21] <tojoko> yep. well. i hope mine is ok. i had stomache problems lately. but i refused to let the doctors do more than an ultrasound.
[11:46:56] <jessicah> :p
[11:47:29] <jessicah> the pain I've been in, be happy to have it gone
[11:49:35] <tojoko> well, i just read about it, it doesn't seem to be such a big thing to have it removed - like pankreas or kidney.
[11:50:21] <jessicah> yeah
[11:54:19] <tojoko> well, either way i hope they find the reason for your pain. A cousine of mine had several lymph nodes removed bevore the doctors got it right and found she had rabbit fever - quite unkommon in germany.
[11:56:25] <jessicah> :o
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[12:04:11] <jessicah> hello Duggan
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[12:10:21] <Duggan> hey jessicah
[12:10:31] <Duggan> how've you been?
[12:10:36] <PulkoMandy> webkit on 64bit is broken because there was an ABI change and the package was not updated
[12:10:42] <PulkoMandy> no relation to 64bitness, actually
[12:10:59] <PulkoMandy> (and I wouldn't call the 32 bit version solid as a rock, anyway…)
[12:11:02] <Duggan> hey PulkoMandy
[12:11:06] <PulkoMandy> hi!
[12:12:03] <Duggan> hows it going?
[12:12:35] <jessicah> I've been better
[12:12:41] <Duggan> I'm sorry :(
[12:12:43] <Duggan> what's up?
[12:13:02] <jessicah> likely having gall bladder removed tomorrow
[12:13:53] <Duggan> had that done last year :P
[12:17:06] <jessicah> :)
[12:19:28] <Duggan> it's not too bad, but I still have some problems... I think I have some stones left in my bile duct they didn't vacuum out :P
[12:19:42] <Duggan> or maybe some other problem they didn't notice, I don't know
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[12:22:05] <Duggan> but I'm think I'm an exception :P don't expect any problems you have to be out of the ordinary I'm sure :) I'm the only person I know who's had theirs taken out that is still having any sort of issues
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[12:22:22] <johnny_b> 6
[12:22:28] <Duggan> hej johnny_b
[12:23:11] <johnny_b> hey master parser 8)
[12:23:28] <johnny_b> where have you been in last couple of days? 8)
[12:24:04] <Duggan> work
[12:24:16] <Duggan> got a job
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[12:26:54] <jessicah> i'm just looking forward to being free of this excruciating pain :p
[12:27:09] <Duggan> right side just below the rib cage?
[12:27:19] <jessicah> stupid little things causing big problems
[12:27:22] <jessicah> yeah
[12:27:24] <Duggan> or almost just under the bottom or the rib cage actually
[12:27:30] <Duggan> yep, gallbladder :)
[12:27:59] <Duggan> you'll be better in a few days :)
[12:28:25] <jessicah> yeah
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[12:37:24] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] KapiX 5d9678a - libpagemaker: move to media-libs.
[12:37:25] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] KapiX 2a44252 - libmicrohttpd: fix linker errors.
[12:37:27] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] KapiX f8d2090 - keepassxc: add recipe.
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[12:44:16] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 6d1d07e - LyX: add recipe for 2.1.4
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[15:23:55] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson 1b0efdb - OpenEXR & IlmBase: remove libtool library files.
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[16:20:44] <stargater> uha with old dell laptop from 2001?
[16:25:00] <postmen> what stargater ? Hello btw and happy new year.
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[16:36:35] <BrunoSpre> hello all... is there a shortcut for opening the terminal? thx...
[16:37:50] <KapiX> Alt+Win+T
[16:38:07] <BrunoSpre> ah yes thx alot
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[16:45:39] <Not-d513> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson ca8195d - OpenEXR-2.2.0: bump revision.
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[16:47:55] <postmen> wow? that's new, isn't it!?
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[16:52:07] <Deepanshu> @jessicah Hey! Congrats, good to see you're making the trip for Google Code-in this year.
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[16:57:32] <postmen> Deepanshu, well, let's hope she is aible to.
[16:58:58] <Deepanshu> You can read personal messages? Lol, I went a little crazy in my own PM. Sorry. Brah
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[17:01:00] <Deepanshu> Welcome humdinger :)
[17:01:13] <humdinger> Glad to be here. :)
[17:03:06] <Deepanshu> I was thinking of developing a seprate site for GCI and GSoC, just like the one FOSSASIA has. It will help students get know to know more about the Haiku Community. What do you say?
[17:03:42] <Deepanshu> separate*
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[17:04:33] <Deepanshu> Humdinger ^
[17:04:45] <humdinger> looking at FOSSASIA...
[17:07:25] <humdinger> It's a big site... what's the appeal exactly? I see pages full of headshots of students and mentors.
[17:07:35] <humdinger> is it used for announcements of FOSS contests?
[17:08:52] <humdinger> not sure there are many Haiku specific contests.
[17:11:03] <Deepanshu> They use the site to show the projects completed by students, it helps students to get to know there mentor.They also create GCI which lets students learn creating a blog making their first blog post
[17:11:30] <Deepanshu> GCI task*
[17:12:38] <humdinger> They are project agnostic, right?
[17:12:49] <Deepanshu> Also,the student with maximum contribution gets to be the top so it is also a motivator to complete more tasks
[17:13:09] <humdinger> or are they a mentoring org?
[17:15:18] <Deepanshu> mentor organization for Google Summer of Code & GCI
[17:17:02] <humdinger> ah. I thought is was an org that just generally supports FOSS work. Then Haiku could be just part of that.
[17:17:29] <humdinger> Such a site that follows all students work seems like a hell lot of work...
[17:19:27] <Deepanshu> It can be probably my GSoC project this year, ofc I will keep it updated.
[17:22:01] <humdinger> Would be nice to find some way to stronger bind students (or interested newcomers) to Haiku development.
[17:22:08] <humdinger> I just don't know how...
[17:22:33] <humdinger> few students seem interested to post on the forums or mailing lists.
[17:22:56] <humdinger> so we don't even have a chance to point them to the pages showing people how to contribute.
[17:25:25] <Deepanshu> I do agree on that with you. I will think over it.
[17:26:19] <humdinger> That our website appears a bit disorganised doesn't help either.
[17:31:18] <Deepanshu> Have a look*
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[17:35:57] <Vidrep> Hi
[17:36:09] <humdinger> Hi Vidrep
[17:36:24] <Vidrep> Hey humdinger
[17:36:52] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy said that Gutenprint builds fine for him on x86_gcc2
[17:37:14] <Vidrep> humdinger, it wouldn't build for you and I
[17:37:23] <humdinger> Deepanshu: many of the mentioned points are there for Haiku. Though, most of those points are easier to achive for a "regular" small FOSS project. An OS is huge, so directory trees etc. tend t become overwhelming quickly.
[17:38:41] <humdinger> Vidrep: well, the recipe says: ARCHITECTURES="!x86_gcc2 x86 x86_64"
[17:38:58] <humdinger> I can try to remove the "!" andbuild again...
[17:39:30] <humdinger> or does he mean x86 s 2ndary arch under gcc2
[17:39:36] <humdinger> gcc2hybrid
[17:42:33] <humdinger> seeing PulkoMandy's email, he talked about gutenprint-5.2.11-3-x86_gcc2
[17:42:47] <humdinger> the v5.2.12 may be another story
[17:44:01] <Vidrep> He's referring to 5.2.11 is he?
[17:44:08] <humdinger> yes.
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[17:44:13] <Vidrep> That's why
[17:45:41] <Vidrep> I'll amend my ticket to make it clear
[17:46:15] <humdinger> if you feel like it, you can add a log of building 5.2.12
[17:47:29] <Vidrep> Sure
[17:49:20] <humdinger> don't forget to remove the "!" from the recipe... :)
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[17:53:38] <Vidrep> First I have to DL haikuports again
[17:56:19] <humdinger> I'll reboot because the bloody media_addon_server died again...
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[18:01:12] <Vidrep> Has anyone ever looked into it?
[18:01:38] <Vidrep> Lines 197 to 201 in ipp.cpp seem to be the culprit here, looks as if the code was put there expecting some form of service discovery in future that wasn't implemented.
[18:02:26] <Vidrep> That feature was broken between Alpha 2 and Alpha 3
[18:02:51] <Vidrep> In Alpha 2 you could still manually input the URL for IPP and it would work
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[18:04:12] <humdinger> Those lines were put there by Ithamar in 2010.
[18:04:25] <humdinger> I guess it's difficult to contact him...
[18:04:46] <humdinger> and that he'd remember the 7 years old code. :)
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[18:07:06] <Vidrep> Is there anything obviously wrong?
[18:07:42] <humdinger> I wouldn't know, sorry...
[18:07:49] <Vidrep> Chicken :)
[18:08:08] <humdinger> kluck kluck
[18:10:09] <Vidrep> Damn, I have to boot windows to attach the build log for Gutenprint in haikuports
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[18:10:33] <humdinger> get qupzilla for gawd sake... :P
[18:10:52] <humdinger> just as a fall back
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[18:11:36] <Vidrep> I'm too stubborn
[18:11:50] <Vidrep> I'd rather see Web+ fixed
[18:12:08] <humdinger> that's not related to you uing qupzilla as a fallback
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[18:12:51] <humdinger> anyway, go play with Windows a bit, I'll go dinner. :)
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[18:43:49] <cooliof> hello
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[19:01:39] * humdinger has returned
[19:06:28] <jua_> The return of the humdinger.
[19:06:38] <humdinger> cue fanfares
[19:11:10] <humdinger> jua_: any new discoveries on how to build with haikuporter using local sources?
[19:12:02] <jua_> yeah, I found the bug that prevented using a local git repo as source
[19:12:33] <jua_> I was using verbose mode in haikuporter to track down the error, but there's a bug in haikuporter's git code which breaks it when using verbose mode :P
[19:13:13] <humdinger> perfect!
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[19:38:40] <Duggan> humdinger?
[19:38:43] * Duggan golf claps.
[19:38:49] <humdinger> Duggan?
[19:38:59] <Duggan> that's all the fanfare you get
[19:39:18] <humdinger> not sure what a golf clap is, but I take it.
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