[00:00:05] <hermord> Alright, so how would I get the number of CPUs on the current system, then?
[00:01:50] <hermord> And what is the equivalent of major/minor/makedev (for working with device nodes)?
[00:02:12] <waddlesplash> get_system_info() for CPU count I think
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[00:04:40] <hermord> Oh, alright, I'll look into that, thanks.
[00:06:51] <hermord> It looks like sysconf also might work
[00:08:42] <mattlacey> when does the google code in wrap up?
[00:08:56] <hermord> January 16th, I think
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[00:16:50] <mattlacey> cool
[00:16:53] <mattlacey> sounds like a bunch has been done
[00:17:34] <mattlacey> with that and jessicah's UEFI progress looks like everything's on track for a great setup for the R1 branch
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[00:23:56] <hermord> Yeah, about that… Is there any particular priority order to GCI porting tasks?
[00:24:56] <hermord> There's an awful lot of them, and I've been wondering if any were more important than the others
[00:25:14] <mattlacey> no idea tbh
[00:25:30] <mattlacey> but I'd doubt it, generally people are happier to work on open source when they can choose what they want to work on.
[00:25:47] <waddlesplash> ^ yup
[00:25:59] <waddlesplash> if you actually want something ported, do it yourself :p
[00:27:39] <hermord> I mean, for me it's more about the process, I guess
[00:28:29] <hermord> And the feeling that I've actually helped out the broader community
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[00:29:29] <hermord> But if there's no particular order of priorities, then I'll just keep doing what I've been doing so far
[00:32:53] <waddlesplash> not particularly
[00:33:00] <waddlesplash> all the important stuff was already ported long ago tbh
[00:34:04] <hermord> Oh, alright. So what would you say is of the highest priority right now?
[00:34:27] <hermord> Among the GCI tasks, I mean
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[01:51:34] <Stephanie> Emrys are you online?
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[02:06:49] <Emrys> yes
[02:06:56] <Emrys> 3 am but yes
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[02:14:37] <Emrys> Stephanie, oh the task
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[02:14:46] <Emrys> i have created it but it needs to be accepted
[02:15:11] <Stephanie> Ok sounds good, thanks
[02:15:27] <Stephanie> Oh geez 3 am hope I didn't wake you up
[02:15:48] <Emrys> no, i'm still at my laptop. no sounds
[02:16:04]
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[02:45:54] <Stephanie> Would someone mind looking at my recipe and helping me figure out why it only initializes an empty repo? This is my first time writing a recipe :/
[02:46:31] <jessicah> sure
[02:47:02] <jessicah> but it's probably your URL being incorrect
[02:49:41] <Stephanie> pastebin.com/36Jn56PS
[02:49:46] <Stephanie> Thanks
[02:50:48] <jessicah> you're missing the archive extension
[02:51:06] <Stephanie> OH
[02:51:08] <jessicah> so tack on something like .tar.gz or whatever
[02:51:27] <Stephanie> Didn't realize that
[02:51:30] <jessicah> ;)
[02:51:51] <Stephanie> And also in the repo, I see 2 makefiles, not sure which one is the one to use here.
[02:54:10] <jessicah> cmake will generate makefiles
[02:54:30] <jessicah> so you usually run cmake first, and then use the makefile generated by cmake
[02:54:34] <Stephanie> Is building from Haiku "Linux without Root access"?
[02:54:35] <Stephanie> Ah ok
[02:55:05] <jessicah> the process should be similar to one of the linux instructions
[02:55:12] <jessicah> probably just need to experiment a bit
[02:55:26] <Stephanie> Ok thanks
[02:56:00] <jessicah> I usually build new stuff outside of haikuporter, figuring out all the instructions, and then copy commands that worked into recipe
[02:56:09] <jessicah> but that's just how I prefer to approach things
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[02:56:25] <Stephanie> Build new stuff outside of haikuporter?
[02:56:27] <jessicah> everybody has their own workflows :)
[02:56:58] <jessicah> when packaging something new
[02:57:12] <jessicah> I'll do it manually first; then copy into the recipe and test with haikuporter
[02:57:39] <Stephanie> Manually as in clone the repository?
[02:57:41] <scottmc> yeah, me to.. take notes on paper...
[02:57:58] <scottmc> what works and what didn't, then try to write a recipe for it
[02:58:41] <jessicah> yeah, download same file you'll use in the recipe
[02:58:49] <jessicah> extract it, figure out what commands to run
[02:58:51] <jessicah> etc.
[02:58:58] <Stephanie> Oh ok
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[02:59:12] <Stephanie> And you know it works if a .hpkg is created right?
[02:59:27] <jessicah> no, doing stuff manually doesn't create an hpkg
[02:59:37] <jessicah> that's what haikuporter does
[02:59:51] <jessicah> know if it works if it builds without errors
[03:00:05] <Stephanie> Ah ok
[03:01:30] <Stephanie> Does building it manually just help fix problems in the BUILD() block?
[03:04:37] <jessicah> yeah
[03:05:02] <jessicah> it's just easier to iterate on figuring out the build process
[03:07:56] <jessicah> think I'll go have a nap
[03:08:00] <jessicah> so tired ._.
[03:08:28] <Stephanie> Thanks for the help!
[03:08:55] <scottmc> what recipe are you working on today?
[03:10:17] <Stephanie> I'm working on Csound
[03:15:08] <scottmc> what version?
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[03:15:45] <Stephanie> 6.06.0
[03:16:27] <scottmc> is it building ok?
[03:17:01] <Stephanie> I'm not completely sure what I'm doing - trying to build it manually with this guide
[03:17:14] <scottmc> ok, cool, looks like Pete G.'s Haiku patch was added in 5.19
[03:17:28] <scottmc> i'll be back later. good luck
[03:17:42] <Stephanie> Ok thanks
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[03:35:31] <Barrett> gci students just ask if something needed
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[03:46:50] <Stephanie> I'm still having some trouble understanding what to do for the recipe I'm working on - pastebin.com/36Jn56PS (.tar.gz in source_uri fixed).
[03:50:17] <Barrett> Stephanie, can you extend?
[03:51:08] <Stephanie> I'm getting "no makefile found" even though there is a makefile where I'm cd'ing into
[03:51:31] <Barrett> #cd nacl
[03:51:36] <Barrett> there's a character before cd
[03:52:16] <Stephanie> It was commented out then, but I uncommented it out
[03:53:50] <hermord> Does the recipe get to the BUILD() stage at all?
[03:54:33] <hermord> Because your SRC_URI doesn't seem to be correct
[03:54:44] <hermord> Why wouldn't you use a released tarball?
[03:55:07] <Stephanie> That's an old pastebin - I added .tar.gz to the end of the sourceuri
[03:55:15] <Stephanie> I should post a new one :P
[03:55:48] <Barrett> Stephanie, yes
[03:56:01] <Stephanie> Darn sprunge is still broken
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[03:56:04] <Barrett> I'm failing to find the archive
[03:56:11] <Barrett> just use another nopaste
[03:56:23] <Stephanie> Yeah I just have an affinity for sprunge XD
[03:56:30] <Barrett> :)
[03:57:10] <Stephanie> pastebin.com/ZgasrzUZ
[03:59:23] <Barrett> 1 se
[03:59:24] <Barrett> sec
[04:00:22] <hermord> Your SOURCE_DIR should start with a small c
[04:00:38] <hermord> As in, "csound-$srcGitRev"
[04:00:58] <Barrett> Stephanie, read BUILD.md
[04:02:09] <Stephanie> I've tried the commands on BUILD.md, don't seem to be working (Linux without root access one)
[04:04:03] <Barrett> Stephanie, my suggestion is to try building the package without haikuporter
[04:04:14] <Barrett> so you can figure out the commands sequence
[04:04:23] <Barrett> then it will be easy to add them in the recipe
[04:05:27] <Stephanie> Are all the available commands on BUILD.md? Those give me errors when I try them
[04:05:55] <Barrett> it depends on the error
[04:06:01] <Barrett> there might be something to fix
[04:07:25] <Stephanie> Ok I'll keep trying
[04:07:26] <Stephanie> Thanks
[04:09:51] <Barrett> if there's something you don't understand or don't find a clue googling
[04:09:56] <Barrett> just paste the error
[04:10:05] <Barrett> I'll try to find some clue for you
[04:10:26] <hermord> Stephanie, is there any particular reason you didn't go with the method they recommend for linux?
[04:11:07] <Stephanie> The instructions didn't work for me
[04:11:29] <hermord> They are working for me so far
[04:11:37] <Stephanie> I'll try them again and paste any error I get
[04:11:50] <Stephanie> "General Linux without Root Access" right?
[04:12:27] <hermord> I was actually looking at their directions for Debian
[04:12:54] <Stephanie> Ah ok
[04:13:01] <hermord> General Linux is just a variation of the same thing, though
[04:13:26] <Stephanie> Sudo works for you in haiku?
[04:14:20] <hermord> Nope
[04:14:33] <hermord> You don't need sudo in Haiku
[04:14:56] <hermord> Since you *are* root, effectively
[04:15:34] <Stephanie> So did you do the build-dep csound, install cmake, install git?
[04:17:03] <hermord> Well, in Haiku that would be `pkgman install PKGNAME`, so you could do that for all dependencies
[04:17:19] <hermord> I actually prefer to work with the recipe right away instead of doing things by hand first
[04:17:46] <hermord> So you could simply add the dependecies to REQUIRES, BUILD_REQUIRES and BUILD_PREREQUIRES
[04:18:02] <Stephanie> Oh ok
[04:18:30] <hermord> For cmake, for example, you could add 'cmd:cmake' (without the quotes to BUILD_PREREQUIRES)
[04:27:25] <Stephanie> How would you install cmake? pkgman install cmake and hp cmake are both not working
[04:28:20] <jessicah> I think cmake might only be x86?
[04:28:23] <jessicah> pkgman search cmake
[04:29:54] <Stephanie> Yeah all of the results are x86
[04:30:53] <hermord> Oh, sorry about that. I forgot I was running x86_64
[04:31:49] <hermord> It would be quite hard to build csound for x86_gcc2, then, I would imagine
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[05:05:24] <hermord> Actually, csound apparently needs pthread_barrier_t, which I don't think Haiku has
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[05:15:18] <hermord> Oh no, turns out, it doesn't really.
[05:15:53] <hermord> So it should be possible to build it on x86_gcc5 and x86_64
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[06:10:09] <scottmc> how far did you get csounds?
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[06:26:20] <Stephanie> scottmc I got pretty confused with the BUILD.md and apparently it doesn't build on my original architecture so I am currently setting up haikuports on a new vm
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[06:44:25] <scottmc> Stephanie yeah it might be that it only works on a gcc4/5 Haiku?
[06:44:46] <scottmc> Vanisha which task are you working on now?
[06:45:00] <scottmc> vanisha ^
[06:45:13] <vanisha> scottmc: CONVERT PARALLELS DESKTOP ARTICLE TO MARKDOWN AND UPDATE
[06:45:19] <vanisha> It's up for review
[06:45:35] <vanisha> Sorry for the caps .
[06:45:54] <scottmc> aw. yeah those types of task may be a bit slower to review, as we only have a few mentors for them.
[06:47:02] <scottmc> vanisha there are some tasks that you can look at while waiting on review.
[06:47:02] <vanisha> scottmc: No issues , I am working on my next text in parallel .
[06:47:09] <scottmc> yes
[06:48:46] <Stephanie> scottmc: So now I'm on x86_64, could you check if there are any newbie mistake I might be making here pastebin.com/WVH9Ti5b? (formatting errors, capitalization, stuff like that)
[06:51:29] <scottmc> Stephanie i hadn't seen srcGitRev used before. But I've not down many recipes since git took over.
[06:51:55] <scottmc> does it build outside of haikuporter os x86_64?
[06:52:04] <scottmc> on x86_64
[06:52:12] <Stephanie> It was suggested by fbrosson I believe when I de-linted recipes previously
[06:52:20] <Stephanie> You mean by using the manual commands?
[06:52:41] <scottmc> fbrosson has done most of the newer recipes so i'd go by what he says. ;)
[06:53:11] <scottmc> yes interactively in the terminal, running the build commands one at a time
[06:53:45] <Stephanie> That's what I'm trying to figure out now
[06:53:51] <Stephanie> Which commands to use and whatnot
[06:56:11] <scottmc> i'm going to try it manually here. downloading the .tar.gz now
[06:59:35] <scottmc> installing CMake using HaikuDepot. got error about not finding cmake when using pkgman install cmake
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[07:00:11] <Stephanie> I was able to install cmake with pkgman, make is the one I'm having problems with
[07:01:33] <hermord> What's the error message you are getting?
[07:01:36] <scottmc> running cmake ./ now
[07:02:19] <scottmc> Csound requires sndfile library
[07:02:21] <Stephanie> That was on the other vm, waiting for results of make installation on x86_64 right now
[07:03:16] <scottmc> installed libsnd with HaikuDepot...
[07:03:53] <scottmc> still fails cmake...
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[07:04:52] <hermord> You'll also need flex and bison
[07:06:27] <scottmc> looks like some of the boost libs as well.
[07:06:37] <HAIKU-irker273> 32624578b6b4: utility.cpp: Add encoding / decoding UTF-16LE.
[07:06:38] <HAIKU-irker273> 222c84407a0c: gpt: return size of created strings in to_utf8/to_ucs2.
[07:06:39] <HAIKU-irker273> e495a73b39ab: partitioning: set partition name in partition table if supported.
[07:06:40] <HAIKU-irker273> 9ba5f8731301: disk_systems: set filesystem name from partition name if exists.
[07:06:41] <HAIKU-irker273> 4419d699ecc4: partitioning: pass along reference to parent when uninitializing.
[07:06:42] <HAIKU-irker273> d2e18d646293: efi/video.cpp: style fix.
[07:07:44] <jessicah> finally got that done...
[07:07:51] <jessicah> that was a lot of work
[07:10:19] <scottmc> jessicah progress is good..
[07:10:58] <jessicah> was many, many layers to peel through
[07:11:03] <jessicah> 4 days of printf debugging :D
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[07:25:12] <scottmc> Stephanie did you get past running cmake ./ ?
[07:25:58] <Stephanie> cmake said I needed sndfile library, so I installed libsndfile, but ran out of memory doing so, so I'm trying it again :P
[07:26:24] <scottmc> i'm sensing a rabbit hole here.
[07:27:22] <Stephanie> My philosophy: Keep doing something until the error goes away or until I can figure out how to solve it, whichever comes first XD
[07:28:12] <scottmc> yup, that usually works. i think haiku has all the dependenices and Pete got it working so i think it can be done.
[07:31:16] <FlyingJester> Isn't it usually a bad idea to run cmake on the current directory?
[07:31:36] <Stephanie> I got "out of memory" again - how does this happen? The only things I have added to this vm are haikuports, haikuporter, and csound repos, and nothing else is running other than terminal.
[07:31:57] <scottmc> how much memory did you give the VM?
[07:32:20] <Stephanie> Um 2 gigs ram I believe
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[07:37:21] <scottmc> cmake is failing to detect libsndfile
[07:40:19] <scottmc> needs lua_lit_x86
[07:40:30] <scottmc> needs openjdk
[07:40:56] <hermord> That can't be right. Make sure you're not enabling anything extra
[07:41:22] <hermord> I got it past the configue stage with libsndfile, bison and flex alone
[07:41:35] <scottmc> what arch?
[07:45:27] <scottmc> cmake is failing to detet libsndfile for me here. not sure what you are doing different hermord
[07:46:09] <hermord> Make sure you installed libsndfile_devel as well
[07:46:15] <hermord> That's where the headers are
[07:47:04] <Stephanie> Still installing libsndfile on this end, this time with more memory
[07:47:17] <scottmc> der.. thanks. i was using HaikuDepot and by default those were hidden. been awhile since I've built much on here
[07:51:41] <Stephanie> Is hp libsndfile supposed to take a really long time? It's been about 15 minutes and it's still going
[07:52:18] <scottmc> you can just run "pkgman install libsndfile_devel"
[07:52:56] <scottmc> ok, finally got cmake to run and finish
[07:53:32] <Stephanie> Oh wow that was fast
[07:54:38] <Stephanie> Pkgman took like 20 seconds - what does it do that's different from hp?
[07:55:21] <scottmc> pkgman just installs prebuilt packages. hp builds them
[07:56:15] <Stephanie> Ah ok
[07:56:20] <Stephanie> Oh hey cmake worked
[07:56:40] <scottmc> BUILD.md says "When you are happy" run make.
[07:56:48] <scottmc> so i guess i need to be happy first
[07:57:56] <scottmc> make bails out at 1% on csounds.c:36 and about 4000 lines after that
[07:58:49] <Stephanie> Oh I'm following Debian instructions - would either set of instructions work?
[07:58:53] <scottmc> hermord how far did it get for you?
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[07:59:59] <hermord> I got right up to it wanting boost headers, then I was too lazy to install boost
[08:00:09] <Stephanie> I get Makefile:160: recipe for target 'all' failed
[08:00:22] <Stephanie> At 6%
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[08:00:52] <hermord> Is it about pthread_barrier_t?
[08:01:49] <Stephanie> Oh didn't scroll up enough
[08:01:52] <Stephanie> Yes it is
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[08:02:10] <scottmc> aw yeah, boost packages i installed but but that was before enabling the devel packages. installing boost_devel now
[08:03:35] <scottmc> pkgman install boost_devel? not sure what it is for X86_64
[08:05:35] <hermord> Here's how to fix the pthread problem and a bunch of others:
[08:06:05] <hermord> Apply this patch
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[08:06:57] <miqlas-H64> Hi!
[08:07:05] <hermord> Yep, boost_devel should be it
[08:07:34] <miqlas-H64> Anybody experienced app_server crash during editing a comment or an issue on github with WebPositive?
[08:09:17] <Stephanie> How do I apply a patch? Do I put the file in the repository?
[08:11:07] <hermord> You can either just run `patch -p1 </patch/to/the/patch` while in the root of the source tree
[08:11:47] <hermord> Or put it into the "patches" folder in haikuports tree and add its name to PATCHES, if you're using haikuporter
[08:14:31] <scottmc> when i run patch is just sits and does nothing.
[08:14:41] <scottmc> i don't recall patch doing that before
[08:15:02] <scottmc> damn. <
[08:15:20] <Stephanie> Mine isn't doing anything either
[08:16:13] <scottmc> you need to put the "<" in there
[08:16:47] <hermord> Or -i, alternatively
[08:16:59] <hermord> As in, `patch -p1 -i /path/to/the/patch`
[08:17:48] <Stephanie> File to patch: Is this wanting the Makefile?
[08:19:02] <hermord> Nope, it shouldn't ask that
[08:19:04] <scottmc> patch -p1 < patch.diff
[08:19:22] <scottmc> assuming you saving the patch to a file called patch.diff
[08:21:14] <Stephanie> I'm still getting a prompt to input File to patch
[08:21:50] <korli> about pthread_barrier_t, I've created a GCI task for an implementation, shouldn't be too difficult
[08:22:39] <scottmc> yes... i think this is far enough down the rabbit hole to see that there's more to this than we want to tackle at this time
[08:23:41] <scottmc> i say we put csound task on HOLD until the pthread_barrier_t, but that's probably not the only issue here. We are only at 1% building. ;)
[08:25:29] <korli> well, I see a fallback implementation in libuv, which would be a nice start
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[08:25:59] <hermord> pthread_barrier_t is actually not needed here. I mean, there's a fallback within csound itself
[08:26:29] <scottmc> it was trying to detect a "liblo" when running cmake, but i didn't see a package to install it.
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[08:27:33] <korli> hermord: ok, anyway it would be a nice coding task for once
[08:27:58] <hermord> Yep, I might actually take it as soon as I'm done with squashfs_tools
[08:32:32] <miqlas-H64> korli, do you happen to have a bit time for me?
[08:32:40] <Stephanie> I think I'm going to go to sleep now, getting pretty late - I'll keep working on figuring out what's wrong in the morning if the task isn't put on hold
[08:32:42] <scottmc> i was trying on gcc2_h set to x86 mode
[08:34:20] <korli> miqlas-H64: what can I do?
[08:34:53] <Stephanie> Thanks for everyone who helped today :D
[08:37:59] <miqlas-H64> korli: it is about the gfortran recipe.
[08:38:25] <miqlas-H64> i pushed some minor changes, but there is some thing what isn't so clear me.
[08:38:35] <miqlas-H64> can you check the reipe please in my PR?
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[08:42:11] <korli> miqlas-H64: did you update something?
[08:42:59] <korli> fortran would be nicer than gfortran
[08:43:50] <miqlas-H64> korli, there is some wild fortran implementation, i don't really know wich oone do you mean.
[08:44:15] <korli> what do you mean?
[08:44:27] <miqlas-H64> korli: i changed some paths in the gfortran section
[08:44:48] <miqlas-H64> wich is the "fortran" what you meant?
[08:47:16] <korli> and other places
[08:48:20] <scottmc> hermord i cleared my directory, re-extracted and repatched and this time it built fully
[08:48:48] <scottmc> so yeah, no pthread_barrier_t required here
[08:49:06] <hermord> scottmc: Great! So it needed boost_devel and that's it?
[08:49:17] <scottmc> yup
[08:49:45] <miqlas-H64> korli: i cannot follow you, sorry :(
[08:50:02] <scottmc> there's no claim on the task...
[08:52:43] <korli> miqlas-H64: I'm talking about renaming the hpkg gcc_gfortran to gcc_fortran
[08:52:45] <scottmc> runtime_loader: /boot/home/csound-develop/libcsound64.so.6.0: Could not resolve symbol 'pthread_barrier_init'
[08:53:03] <scottmc> execpt i get that error when trying to run it. heh
[08:53:19] <miqlas-H64> korli, ok, i got it!
[08:54:18] <korli> miqlas-H64: also you hardcode x86_64-unknown-haiku-gfortran, maybe use *-gfortran
[08:57:06] <korli> also "$developDir" instead of "$developLibDir/.."
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[09:01:48] <miqlas-H64> korli, thanks, i will change it
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[09:08:39] <scottmc> korli, yeah hermord made a patch to work around that, but the patch might be the issue?
[09:08:58] <hermord> No, I worked around a compile-time check
[09:09:07] <hermord> It was a different file
[09:09:19] <scottmc> -#ifndef PTHREAD_BARRIER_SERIAL_THREAD
[09:09:19] <scottmc> +#if !defined(PTHREAD_BARRIER_SERIAL_THREAD) || defined(__HAIKU__)
[09:09:20] <scottmc> #define pthread_barrier_t barrier_t
[09:09:20] <scottmc> #endif /* PTHREAD_BARRIER_SERIAL_THREAd */
[09:09:21] <scottmc> #endif /* __MACH__ */
[09:10:22] <hermord> Oh yeah, it'd probably be a good idea to mirror that in cs_par_base.c
[09:10:28] <miqlas-H64> korli, do we need the libgfortran.spec file?
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[09:11:37] <korli> I think so
[09:12:00] <miqlas-H64> ok, thanks
[09:12:51] <miqlas-H64> korli: pushed the required changes
[09:13:01] <korli> hermord alternative is to undefine PTHREAD_BARRIER_SERIAL_THREAD after #include <pthread.h> guarded with __HAIKU__
[09:14:38] <hermord> Yep. That'd be a cleaner way to do it, too
[09:15:02] <scottmc> running make now
[09:15:51] <scottmc> if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around does it make a sound? If you run an audio program on a pc without speakers does the audio work?
[09:16:42] <scottmc> runtime_loader: /boot/home/csound-develop/libcsound64.so.6.0: Could not resolve symbol 'pthread_barrier_init'
[09:16:43] <scottmc> resolve symbol "pthread_barrier_init" returned: -2147478780
[09:16:43] <scottmc> runtime_loader: /boot/home/csound-develop/libcsound64.so.6.0: Troubles relocating: Symbol not found
[09:17:07] <scottmc> that was fixing line 82
[09:17:37] <hermord> That's the thing, though. CMake knows we don't have pthread_barrier_init
[09:17:48] <hermord> Why is it even compiled in?
[09:18:21] <korli> miqlas-H64: REQUIRES_fortran content is commented
[09:18:54] <korli> miqlas-H64: and the comment "# we don't want to include them into other packages" goes on the previous line (line is already long)
[09:19:46] <hermord> Wow, it actually built just fine for me
[09:21:00] <korli> hermord: probably it defaults to an implicit declaration, and missing symbols are allowed in shared libs
[09:21:08] <scottmc> hermord, now run "csound"
[09:21:12] <miqlas-H64> korli, they will be removed or changed, first i want to get it packaged :)
[09:21:45] <scottmc> i got to go to bed... work tomorrow.
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[09:22:24] <scottmc> if you figure more out, have a mentor post an updated comment on the csound task. looks like it was claimed.
[09:22:24] <korli> hermord: the symbol should be barrier_init when cs_par_base.c is fixed
[09:25:56] <hermord> Yeah, I see what you mean now
[09:41:33] <hermord> Alright, got it
[09:41:36] <hermord> Derp
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[09:41:58] <hermord> There was an #ifndef higher up in the code
[09:43:02] <hermord> Or an #if, actually
[09:44:35] <hermord> And IT WORKS!
[09:47:37] <hermord> Although I doubt there'll be any sound
[09:47:46] <hermord> I think we disabled all backends
[09:52:34] <hermord> But there's probably a default
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[12:22:17] <vanisha> scottmc: you there ?
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[14:25:32] <Twenty8> Can someone help me with using the installoptionalpackage script ?
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[14:29:27] <mmu_man> Twenty8: you really want to install a nightly
[14:29:33] <mmu_man> alpha4 is 3 years old
[14:29:41] <Twenty8> i do have anightly
[14:29:46] <Twenty8> a nightly *
[14:32:08] <Twenty8> mmu_man: do i need installoptionalpackage ?
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[14:35:09] <Twenty8> mmu_man: sorry, just noticed it.
[14:35:16] <Twenty8> made a fool of myself
[14:35:18] <Twenty8> lol
[14:35:46] <Twenty8> i really need some help with paladin though
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[14:45:20] <mmu_man> then you need to use pkgman :)
[14:45:41] <mmu_man> hmm don't use paladin, can't help much
[14:48:44] <Twenty8> no problem
[14:48:52] <Twenty8> do you use any ide on haiku ?
[14:49:19] <mmu_man> just Pe
[14:50:03] <Twenty8> editor ?
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[14:53:01] <mmu_man> yep
[14:53:56] <Twenty8> how do you run your program?
[14:54:10] <mmu_man> ./
[14:54:55] <Twenty8> ??
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[15:12:47] <Twenty8> i can't get pemission in bash
[15:12:53] <Twenty8> any help ?
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[15:15:05] <vanisha> Emrys: I told scottmc that I am working on my next task in parallel
[15:15:14] <Emrys> ah okay then
[15:15:25] <Emrys> that's fine
[15:16:17] <vanisha> Emrys: Can you close the task ? I promise that I will take care of any fix incase required .
[15:17:51] <Emrys> no, i can't do that w/ no review at all. sorry. don't worry, someone will review it and close both the tasks today
[15:18:10] <Emrys> meanwhile you could work on something else
[15:18:15] <Twenty8> can i get some help please ?
[15:18:35] <Emrys> with what?
[15:18:38] <vanisha> Emrys: np
[15:19:01] <Twenty8> i cant run anything in paladin
[15:19:30] <Emrys> are you on a book task
[15:19:43] <Twenty8> i tried to do something
[15:19:48] <Twenty8> i am not on task yet
[15:20:07] <Twenty8> just installed haiku as a vm
[15:20:34] <Emrys> ah okay. since there are 3 ppl working on that one and i didn't know
[15:20:48] <Emrys> you can work with Pe for that task
[15:21:05] <Twenty8> i am using pe but i am not able to run it
[15:21:16] <Emrys> the first chapter(s) of the book should tell you how to set up paladin afaik
[15:21:25] <Emrys> Pe is only text editor
[15:21:57] <Twenty8> i know
[15:22:14] <Twenty8> but the chapter doesnt have anything to do with setting up paladin
[15:22:26] <Emrys> to run it you need to use g++ from Terminal
[15:22:37] <Twenty8> no idea
[15:22:43] <Emrys> ?
[15:22:52] <Twenty8> about g++
[15:24:17] <Emrys> basically you're looking for this g++ -o output foo.c (adjust accordingly to your prog's name)
[15:24:32] <Emrys> but for .cpp instead
[15:25:46] <Twenty8> cant paladin run the program itself ?
[15:25:51] <Emrys> Twenty8, actually it's gcc
[15:26:10] <Emrys> it should
[15:26:29] <Emrys> which book are you on?
[15:26:35] <Emrys> the intro or advanced
[15:26:39] <Twenty8> but i dont get any terminal when i run
[15:26:48] <Twenty8> intro maybe
[15:27:04] <Twenty8> the one with the box problem
[15:27:08] <Twenty8> lesson 1
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[15:28:58] <Emrys> what do you run? Terminal is another program. you'll find it in applications
[15:29:07] <Twenty8> i know
[15:29:20] <Emrys> that seems to be book 1
[15:29:30] <Twenty8> i'm just used to seeing a console everytime i run a program in windows
[15:29:44] <Emrys> ooh ok
[15:30:07] <Emrys> you'll find Run in the Build menu in Paladin
[15:30:14] <Twenty8> tried it
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[15:32:14] <Emrys> i think you're better off with gcc from terminal
[15:32:49] <Emrys> unless you want to create graphics in later chapters or book 2
[15:32:56] <Twenty8> when i compiled with gcc it showed lots of errors which i didnt get in paladin
[15:33:48] <Emrys> what errors did you get? can you pastebin them
[15:34:05] <Emrys> you could have errors in your program?
[15:34:11] <Twenty8> let me check
[15:34:18] <Twenty8> it was related to cin and cout
[15:34:27] <Twenty8> even though i had included iostream
[15:34:42] <Emrys> anyway when you run from paladin it runs fine
[15:34:57] <Emrys> then go to terminal in the directory the executable is in
[15:34:57] <Twenty8> i dont see a console
[15:35:00] <Emrys> and ./name
[15:35:15] <Twenty8> no executable
[15:35:37] <Emrys> okay can you screenshot everything and send it here
[15:36:14] <Twenty8> on irc ?
[15:36:45] <Emrys> yeah, but a pastebin would work much better. both the errors and your program
[15:38:42] <Twenty8> ok
[15:39:34] <Emrys> wait, i tried it with iostream and cout and it didn't work, no need to send anything
[15:39:54] <Emrys> in the first chapter of the book it shows how you work with <stdio.h> and printf
[15:40:00] <Emrys> and that worked for me
[15:42:05] <Twenty8> i cant use cin and cout ??
[15:42:32] <Emrys> probably not
[15:42:43] <Twenty8> something with haiku ?
[15:43:50] <Emrys> hmm, i think following the book as it says should be fine
[15:43:55] <Twenty8> ok
[15:44:07] <Twenty8> didnt want to restrict myself to it though
[15:44:59] <Twenty8> is a console supposed to open if i run it in paladin ?
[15:45:17] <Emrys> this is just for the book task though. the second book takes you through haiku's api, which is bound to be more interesting
[15:46:05] <Emrys> run logged displays a window with your result if that's what you mean
[15:46:27] <Twenty8> still nothing
[15:46:34] <Twenty8> i am even asking for a window
[15:46:38] <Twenty8> i only compiles
[15:46:46] <Twenty8> asking for an input*
[15:47:07] <Emrys> gcc though
[15:47:31] <Twenty8> ok
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[15:47:58] <Twenty8> thanks for the help
[15:48:26] <Emrys> np. you can try to solve it however you can and maybe there'll be more mentors later tonight
[15:48:41] * Emrys has irl stuff to attend to. bye
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[15:55:43] <Punsith> hey
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[16:01:54] <Punsith> How to find the app when making the recipe some recipes have "cp opjects/<appname> $AppDir" how to find the location where the app is
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[17:22:42] <HaikuUser> i need some help regarding haiku
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[17:25:13] <Punsith> mayebe I can help you
[17:26:07] <HaikuUser> i was doing a task and cannot upload a screenshot from within haiku
[17:26:13] <HaikuUser> it takes forever to upload
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[17:40:37] <scottmc> Punsith the resulting binary files can vary depending on the packages you are building. many just leave it in the root, others like ones that use the makefile engine put them in an objects directory.
[17:41:18] <scottmc> Stephanie we got that to finally build, but then i went to bed.
[17:41:43] <Stephanie> Cool - how were you able to get past the pthread barrier?
[17:42:11] <Stephanie> I'm still getting "File to patch: " when I use the patch
[17:42:47] <scottmc> aw, i just scrolled up. hermord had to patch in one more place
[17:45:26] <Twenty8> hey i needed some help
[17:46:48] <Stephanie> scottmc so you had to apply 2 patches?
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[17:48:40] <scottmc> Stephanie the patch you have now patches things in a few places. I think he had to patch two or three more places to get it to work
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[17:50:19] <scottmc> go ahead and write the recipe and rename the patch you have now to csound-x.xx.patch where the x.xx matches the version and put it in the patches directory. We will get the rest of what needs to be patches up later. For now focus on the recipe
[17:50:51] <Stephanie> Ok - will I be able to get the recipe to build just with that?
[17:50:54] <scottmc> Stephanie make sure it's got all the dependencies in the right places etc. boost_devel was needed for example
[17:51:06] <Stephanie> boost_devel and libsndfile right?
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[17:51:38] <scottmc> libsndfile_devel in the buildrequires libsndfile in the requires
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[17:52:25] <scottmc> you could read back the echolog
[17:53:10] <Punsith> But when i put cp obgects/<appname> $AppDir" recipe wont build no install diectry specifice error comes and if I remove it then recipe build
[17:54:35] <humdinger> Punsith: can you paste your recipe andmaybe the failure output?
[17:54:55] <scottmc> Punsith take a look at how it was done with the bevexed recipe, it's likely very similar to the one you are working on
[17:55:44] <scottmc> Twenty8 has here asked for help and left 3 minutes later. :(
[17:56:12] <scottmc> We should tell people that IRC can sometimes take a few minutes.
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[17:56:30] <Vidrep> Good morning
[17:56:31] <humdinger> Vidrep!
[17:56:39] <Vidrep> Hey
[17:56:44] <humdinger> Just finished a mail to you :)
[17:56:56] <humdinger> your report is a bit troubling...
[17:57:06] <humdinger> can't reproduce.
[17:57:20] <Vidrep> troubling? I'll read the email :)
[17:57:21] <humdinger> I may have access to a computer with optical drive this weekend.
[17:57:37] <humdinger> troubling, because it works in my dry-runs
[17:57:56] <humdinger> let's hope that Haiku runs on that machine though...
[17:58:04] <Vidrep> I see a pkgman conflict when doing full-sync (hrev50786)
[17:58:09] <Vidrep> Encountered problems:
[17:58:10] <Vidrep> problem 1: package haiku-r1~alpha4_pm_hrev50786-1 requires lib:libpng>=16.0, but none of the providers can be installed
[17:58:24] <humdinger> I never do full-syncs. So never problems...
[17:58:29] <Vidrep> Just to let the package maintainers know...
[17:58:48] <scottmc> the build slaves failed yesterday choking on libpng.
[17:59:29] <humdinger> libpng is the bastard child of the repo... has made trouble before IIRC
[17:59:30] <scottmc> Stephanie i posted the url to yesterday's log, you can reread it
[17:59:34] <humdinger> stupid versining....
[17:59:41] <Vidrep> humdinger, I'll check out your email and come back in a bit
[17:59:47] <humdinger> scottmc: me?
[17:59:57] <humdinger> Vidrep: take your time
[18:00:03] <Vidrep> Meanwhile, I guess you have GCI questions
[18:00:18] <Stephanie> Thanks scottmc - I read it this morning when I woke up and didn't understand much of it XD boy am I a noob
[18:00:48] <Vidrep> booting into 64 bit...
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[18:01:42] <Punsith> @scotmac Im building hexvexed recipe again because the shortcut isnt work but app is on $haikuporters/hiku-games/hexvexed/work-0.0.1/scottmc-hexvexed-68437a22c788/objects"
[18:01:54] <scottmc> i'm off to work now, back later
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[18:02:44] <Vidrep> 64 bit doesn't seem to be affected by the libpng conflict
[18:03:25] <scottmc> Punisth look at recipe for BeVexed... HexVexed likely builds in a similar manner they both use the makefile engine and drop the resulting binary in an object directory, the recipe will then cp it to where it needs to be
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<humdinger> Punsith: we'll need the recipe as well. using http://sprunge.us or similar sites is easier...
[18:05:55] <humdinger> I'll be back in 30 minutes, sorry...
[18:06:00] * humdinger is idle: BRB
[18:06:18] <Punsith> @scottmac oky I will
[18:06:34] <Punsith> @humdinger oka :)
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[18:20:18] <vanisha> waddlesplash: Please review the pull .
[18:20:28] <waddlesplash> looking
[18:21:33] <waddlesplash> vanisha: ok looks good, you can submit the task
[18:21:40] <Stephanie> Adding a patch to my recipe results in "fatal: ambiguous argument 'ORIGIN': unknown revision or path not in the working tree.
[18:22:52] <Not-8398> [haiku/website] vanishakesswani 9d48282 - Added Parallels-Desktop & Simnow (#5)
[18:23:11] <waddlesplash> vanisha: you can claim & submit the SimNow task then
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[18:25:40] <waddlesplash> done
[18:26:38] <vanisha> waddlesplash: For my next next I plan to create my first recipe . Any task suggestions ?
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[18:33:51] <waddlesplash> hmm
[18:34:06] <waddlesplash> vanisha: pick a Haiku-native app, those are always the easiest recipes to wrie
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[18:43:04] <Punsith> recipe
[18:43:10] <waddlesplash> The Legend of Haiku, Episode III: Return of humdinger
[18:43:37] <humdinger> humdinger reloaded
[18:43:42] <humdinger> this time it's personal
[18:44:16] <waddlesplash> ah yes, I remember this series
[18:44:47] <waddlesplash> The Humdinger was a great movie, followed by the mostly-terrible sequel The Humdinger Reloaded, and the totally horrible finale The Humdinger Revolutions
[18:45:29] <humdinger> Wait for "The Regurgitations"
[18:45:33] <humdinger> straight to video
[18:45:51] <Stephanie> o.O
[18:45:57] <humdinger> Punsith: "make install" is not needed.
[18:46:19] <waddlesplash> Stephanie: like I said, it gets quite zany in here...
[18:46:21] <humdinger> app:hexvexed = $portVersion should be app:HexVexed = $portVersio
[18:46:36] <humdinger> it has to be named like the binary that's actually installed.
[18:47:59] <humdinger> Punsith: consider naming the variable not "commit", but srcGitRev and use the looooong hash instead.
[18:48:22] <humdinger> Punsith: I alread commented on a better description at your PR
[18:49:03] <Stephanie> While we're on the topic of recipe-writing, I have a problem with mine as well: Adding a patch to my recipe results in "fatal: ambiguous argument 'ORIGIN': unknown revision or path not in the working tree.
[18:49:33] <humdinger> Stephanie: as always... paste the recipe :)
[18:49:47] <humdinger> Final call before I release tomorrow.
[18:49:51] <humdinger> Interested in translating catkeys for Clipdinger v1.0?
[18:49:52] <humdinger> Just get the the "en" catkeys linked under Clipdinger at:
[18:49:52] <Stephanie> On it
[18:49:53] <humdinger> And the CatKeysEditor from HaikuDepot. Russian is almost done...
[18:50:12] <humdinger> messing up my PSA, eh? :)
[18:50:28] <Stephanie> sry XD
[18:50:35] <humdinger> j/k
[18:51:57] <Stephanie> Argh pastebin I am not a spammer
[18:52:39] <humdinger> sprunge works again
[18:53:04] <Stephanie> pastebin.com/jnRYEShc
[18:53:05] <Stephanie> Ah sweet
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[18:53:29] <humdinger> they do get overloaded sometimes, sadly.
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[18:55:02] <humdinger> Stephanie: is your patch in a "patches" folder in the same folder as the recipe?
[18:55:15] <Stephanie> Yes
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[18:55:58] <humdinger> then maybe the patch itself contains some mangled path or something...
[18:56:49] <Stephanie> hermord wrote the patch I think, and it worked for him and scottmc last night
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[18:57:11] <humdinger> can youo paste that as well?
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[18:57:32] <Stephanie> Good timing
[18:57:53] <Punsith> okay @humdinger thank you
[19:00:40] <humdinger> Stephanie: I'm not much of a patcher...
[19:00:57] <humdinger> can you try to apply that patch directly to the source in the work* dir?
[19:01:10] <humdinger> the extract a real patchset with hp
[19:01:29] <Stephanie> Is that doing patch -p1 <csound-6.06.0.patch?
[19:02:21] <humdinger> yes.
[19:02:34] <humdinger> you'll have to be in the wor-dir
[19:02:42] <humdinger> 's sources for that
[19:02:47] <humdinger> *work-dir
[19:03:18] <Stephanie> I've tried that, but I always get "File to patch:" and I don't know what to do
[19:03:50] <Mict> Hmm.. since Steam is down, might as well test my new graphics card in Haiku, let's see what VESA modes there are
[19:04:03] <humdinger> I think that only appears f patch doesn't find the files it should patch.
[19:04:16] <humdinger> in what dir are you when you call patch?
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[19:18:11] <Stephanie> @humdinger I cloned the csound repo and am calling it there
[19:18:52] <humdinger> you can use "hp -n csound" to just download, unpack, but don't patch.
[19:19:17] <humdinger> you should do it with hp, because you'll need to extract the patch in the end.
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[19:23:43] <Stephanie> hp skipped downloading source, checksum validation, and unpacking with -n XD
[19:24:07] <humdinger> that's OK, it already did that apparently.
[19:24:22] <humdinger> now cd into work-*/.../source
[19:24:29] <humdinger> whatever the right path is
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[19:26:44] <hermord> There should be another subdir in source
[19:27:03] <humdinger> right. your SOURCE_DIR
[19:28:04] <humdinger> Personally, I normally do "drill-down" the folders in Tracker and summon a Terminal when there.
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[19:35:16] <Mict> Well, at least it didn't crash to out of memory error, there was just a blank screen :P
[19:37:19] <humdinger> did you actually booted in VESA or might that be a driver crapping out on you?
[19:37:38] <Mict> There's no driver for new Nvidia cards
[19:38:12] <humdinger> an unsuitable driver could have made a grab for attention.
[19:38:26] <humdinger> best use safe mode from the boot options
[19:38:53] <Mict> What key do I need to mash for boot menu? shift or space or something else?
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[19:39:01] <humdinger> either
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[19:39:08] <humdinger> I hold down shift
[19:39:14] <Mict> Feels like there's about 1 ms time for it
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[19:39:32] <humdinger> for hitting space. I never had issues holding shift
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[19:41:25] <Vidrep> Back from grocery shopping
[19:42:52] <Vidrep> humdinger, I'll send you another report by email tonight. I see that I need to be a little more concise (some miscommunication)
[19:43:16] <humdinger> maybe. I'm also a bit dumb sometimes...
[19:43:34] <Vidrep> I'm also going to test a variety of optical drives to see if blanking is a hardware issue or not
[19:43:53] <humdinger> do you use cdrecord directly for that?
[19:44:18] <Vidrep> I have 5 SATA optical drives to test with
[19:44:22] <Vidrep> Yes
[19:44:34] <humdinger> good.
[19:44:43] <Vidrep> cdrecord dev= blank=
[19:45:22] <Vidrep> Some burning apps on Windows use cdrecord as well, and they blank discs OK
[19:46:13] <Vidrep> InfraRecorder is one example
[19:47:25] <humdinger> at least we use a similar commandline for blanking.
[19:47:31] <humdinger> what mode do you use?
[19:47:42] <Vidrep> At the end of the day we should be able to close most of the open tickets HaikuArchives for BurnItNow, I would think
[19:47:49] <humdinger> Hmm. We should rename "Type" to "Mode"
[19:48:12] <humdinger> let's hope so...
[19:48:22] <Vidrep> I've tried from the command line and no luck with any combination
[19:48:56] <Vidrep> Does Giova84 ever come on IRC?
[19:49:18] <humdinger> long time not seen
[19:49:26] <Vidrep> He's another CD burning user
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[19:49:51] <humdinger> so there are two of you...
[19:50:31] <Vidrep> humdinger, since you're becoming so expert at this, maybe we can tackle Helios next? ;)
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[19:51:16] <humdinger> ah. so each of you has an app of your own.
[19:51:34] <Mict> So it crashed as usual with packagefs error, but when I continued from KDL, I got an infinite loop of USB errors
[19:51:42] <Vidrep> If it's broke, may as well fix it
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[19:52:04] <Mict> And only up to 2560x1440 VESA :(
[19:52:28] <humdinger> puny res
[19:52:58] <Vidrep> I'll get working on your latest, greatest build and report back later by email, so you can concentrate on other things.
[19:53:02] <Mict> Indeed, monitor supports 4096x2160 with one DP cable :|
[19:53:37] <humdinger> Vidrep: esp. look at the terminal output. I didn't really change that much...
[19:53:48] <Vidrep> OK
[19:54:33] <Vidrep> Since these are test builds, maybe we can enable verbose output?
[19:55:55] <humdinger> yes. but first I'd like to know why it doesn't take the code path it does for me. therefore incorrect notifications and button en/disabling.
[19:56:09] <Vidrep> OK
[19:56:14] <humdinger> though. you can of course add that and build yourself.
[19:56:20] <Vidrep> Sure
[19:56:28] <Vidrep> bbl
[19:56:29] <humdinger> adding another parameter is quite easy.
[19:57:41] <humdinger> exactly.
[19:58:59] <Vidrep> There is also debug output ->AddArgument("-d")
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[19:59:19] <Vidrep> "See" you later
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[20:08:26] <humdinger> $wisdom
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[21:30:05] <SMCollins> I have never been more tired in my whole life then I am right now, somebody tell me something encouraging !
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[21:36:53] <hermord> SMCollins: thanks to you and other volunteers, beta1 branches off on Jan 31
[21:37:02] <hermord> That's pretty encouraging, if you ask me
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[21:39:04] <SMCollins> all I did was cheerlead and test man, but I appreciate what your doing with the google code in !
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[21:41:22] <hermord> Testing's important too. All work matters.
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[22:31:00] <miqlas-H64> Guys, does it make sense if i define jobArgs for make install?
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[23:34:55] <hermord> You shouldn't
[23:35:32] <hermord> Just pass in your arguments along with $jobArgs
[23:35:55] <hermord> E.g. `make install ENABLE_X=1 $jobArgs`
[23:36:29] <hermord> But you shoulnd't pass $jobArgs to `make install` to begin with
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[23:36:58] <hermord> Just do `make install YOUR_ARG_1=X YOUR_ARG_2=Y` etc.
[23:39:18] <miqlas-H64> hernord, i have no idea, what do you want with YOUR_ARGs
[23:39:34] <miqlas-H64> i just want to paralellize the install process.
[23:40:11] <miqlas-H64> it takes too much time in 1 thread. why do i got ssd if not for fast compilation?
[23:40:22] <miqlas-H64> btw, i tested and worked great.
[23:40:34] <hermord> But `make install` isn't supposed to do any compilatiion
[23:41:02] <hermord> Sorry, I thought you wanted to *redefine* jobArgs for make install to pass in your own arguments
[23:41:24] <miqlas-H64> hermond, then let me use "to get a softwer ported to haiku" instead of "compilation"
[23:42:28] <hermord> Right, I mean, you'd execute `make $jobArgs` in BUILD() and `make install` in INSTALL()
[23:42:54] <hermord> All the compilation would happen in BUILD()
[23:43:15] <miqlas-H64> nope, i execute `make install $jobArgs`
[23:43:32] <hermord> In BUILD()?
[23:43:46] <miqlas-H64> hermond, i'm not a gci student, it is already clear to me, thanks.
[23:43:56] <miqlas-H64> of course in BUILD()
[23:45:30] <hermord> Well, I'm sorry if I've been condescending, didn't mean to. If you know what you're doing, then go for it.
[23:46:11] <hermord> I just don't know your particular circumstance. It is highly unusual to run `make install` in BUILD()
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[23:48:08] <miqlas-H64> i just checked, it should work if the makefile handles the race conditions correctly. Tested with the package, works ok, but i use it just for my debugging. The package takes 3-4 hours to get compiled on my laptop, and however i can browse the net and listen to online stream in the same time, it is just boring to do a whole compilation, to get an error in the last second, so i try to get it as fast as possible.
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[23:48:33] <miqlas-H64> oh, nope, it is in INSTALL(), sorry
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[23:49:10] <miqlas-H64> it is a bit too late for me now.
[23:49:35] <miqlas-H64> hermord: are you a gci student? never see you around yet i think.
[23:49:44] <hermord> I am
[23:50:07] <miqlas-H64> how doing? how many tasks did you completed?
[23:51:36] <hermord> It's good. I've done 5 so far, although the fifth one is still being worked on
[23:52:00] <hermord> But it's been marked as completed on GCI
[23:52:01] <miqlas-H64> is it haiku related task?
[23:52:16] <hermord> Yep. Porting and such
[23:53:11] <hermord> I was looking to implement pthread barriers, maybe. That'd be my first non porting related task
[23:53:12] <miqlas-H64> are you guys working only for one project (like Haiku), or do you working parallel on more projects?
[23:53:22] <miqlas-H64> nice!
[23:53:41] <hermord> We can work on multiple projects, but it's more convenient to work on just one, I think
[23:53:57] <miqlas-H64> ummm... where did i required that?...lemme think.... oh, yes, cmus needs it.
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[23:54:49] <hermord> You mean, pthread barriers?
[23:55:14] <miqlas-H64> yep. the current version
[23:55:57] <miqlas-H64> and libuv
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[23:57:45] <hermord> Yep, as far as I understand, many libraries have fallbacks in case pthread barriers are missing. Like csound that we looked at yesterday.
[23:57:58] <hermord> But it'd be nice to have them anyway