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[02:29:30] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #778 of haiku-nightlies-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_64/builds/778
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[03:14:49] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #779 of haiku-nightlies-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_hybrid/builds/779
[03:19:53] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/v6efd
[03:19:55] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson 3b513e7 - pari: bump to 2.7.6, add _data sub-package, improve dependencies. (#746)
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[03:43:01] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #116 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2-debug is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2-debug/builds/116
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[07:04:36] <william341> hi
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[07:04:52] <william341> so on the wiki it says
[07:05:05] <william341> hold on let me get it up
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[07:09:38] <william341> it says 4312 is not supported
[07:09:42] <william341> on fify
[07:09:45] <william341> wifi*
[07:09:56] <william341> but if you go to supported devices
[07:10:07] <william341> it says it is
[07:10:15] <william341> so which one is true
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[07:18:46] <william341> hi
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[07:19:07] <william341> ok then
[07:19:28] <william341> ok is not a word according to google
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[09:03:40] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/v6eYi
[09:03:41] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson 8dbdaf8 - pari: SUMMARY_data was missing its _data suffix. My fault.
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[11:57:03] <miqlas-H> hi
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[12:46:25] <postmen> hi miqlas-H
[12:47:11] <johnny_b> hi miqlas-H
[12:52:47] <miqlas-H> helló
[12:55:54] <miqlas-H> What happend with the github bot?
[12:56:19] <miqlas-H> I just updated some of my recipes, and no windows TaDah on the Haiku IRC?
[13:00:25] <lubo76> hello Dolly (miklas)
[13:00:37] <miqlas-H> lubo76: miQlas
[13:00:47] <miqlas-H> whatever, hello for you too.
[13:00:54] <miqlas-H> How doing?
[13:01:59] <miqlas-H> lubo76: i see you got mirc work
[13:02:05] <miqlas-H> nice job mate
[13:03:00] <miqlas-H> I'm just slowly killing myself. I was awake till 5 AM today, and woked up at 8:30.
[13:04:13] <miqlas-H> As i was a child i wanted to be a ship capitain, and i'm now really interested in big ships, so i read plenty pages of wikipedia during the night.
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[13:19:14] <lubo76> miklas, miqlas - aslmost the same. I have to use mirc, because my main OS is win
[13:19:47] <lubo76> miklas: it is better to use time zone, not only time
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[13:45:02] <postmen> i have access to a server with a good internet connection. i would like to build haiku on it. however, if i type curl it tell me more information by ... - but if i type zlib, it says command not found.
[13:45:20] <postmen> does that mean i most likely can not compile haik on that server?
[13:47:23] <postmen> wow, that connection is just cool - 17.75 MiB/s
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[14:06:59] <stargater> re
[14:08:31] <postmen> wb stargater
[14:12:32] <stargater> jop
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[14:57:36] <postmen> trouble on compilin' haiku - anybody can or want to help?
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[15:06:56] <Begasus> re
[15:07:34] <postmen> wb
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[15:07:41] <postmen> support please!
[15:07:46] <Begasus> tu ;)
[15:08:27] <Begasus> ow .. haven't compiled Haiku out of the box in a long time on linux ...
[15:08:38] <postmen> thanks. next! ;)
[15:08:42] <Begasus> ;)
[15:09:58] <Begasus> I found most of the information on their site good enough to be able to build (and install it to a partition back then), don't know if things changed since then ...
[15:11:03] <postmen> well, i have no sudo to this server and, well, don't expect it to work. just would be cool, since the connectin speed is great.
[15:12:21] <Begasus> ah, that's even another story, only did it local here (server I had back then has gone to the .. long time ago) :)
[15:12:33] <Begasus> ps ... server was also local :)
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[15:16:00] <postmen> hi dario.
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[15:29:30] <postmen> well, i guess i should reboot into unix and try compilin' on the local machine.
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[15:33:59] <_Dario_> hello postmen
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[16:44:05] <postmen> hi humdinger
[16:44:18] <humdinger> hullo!
[16:44:50] <postmen> how do u do?
[16:45:24] <humdinger> how do you do, old chap.
[16:45:39] <humdinger> fine, fine...
[16:45:50] <postmen> well, got some time? can't compile haiku on linux.
[16:46:32] <humdinger> haven't done that in ages...
[16:46:36] <humdinger> did u read the guides?
[16:47:07] <postmen> year - it's actually quite good, till you've done configure. than it becomes crazy.
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[16:47:38] <postmen> hi Barrett! :)
[16:47:42] <humdinger> hmm... I used to follow it step-by-step and it worked...
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[16:48:49] <postmen> well, for me it does not. i hadn't expected it to work, since i'm not root, but i didn't think it would fail after configure.
[16:52:21] <Barrett> hello postmen
[16:52:48] <humdinger> postmen: here is an old article at the gazette: http://haiku-gazette.blogspot.de/2011/01/anleitung-haiku-direkt-vom-quellcode.html
[16:52:53] <humdinger> you do speak German, right?
[16:53:00] <postmen> richtig, danke
[16:53:08] <postmen> Barrett, how do u do?
[16:53:13] <humdinger> maybe that is more detailed?
[16:53:55] <postmen> ja, danke
[16:54:52] <postmen> noe, der is no dir trunk - ich bin eigentlich auch völlig nüchtern.
[16:56:41] <humdinger> forget the folder "trunk". the top folder is actually "haiku".
[16:57:31] <postmen> ahh, still doesn't work and the folder structure is a mysterium to me.
[16:58:27] <humdinger> just clone from git and create the generated folder in the top hierarchy.
[16:58:38] <humdinger> i.e. where there's also build, src, headers etc
[16:59:01] <postmen> well, i did clone, that wasn't a problem
[16:59:24] <postmen> and i did install jam, worked like charm.
[16:59:39] <postmen> configureing the build however is unclear to me.
[17:00:02] <humdinger> call the "configure" from within the generated folder(s) you created.
[17:00:23] <humdinger> since there isn
[17:00:30] <humdinger> 't a "trunk" anymore,
[17:00:32] <postmen> year, tryin' that. gives me an error. but was a nice try.
[17:00:38] <humdinger> ../configure --use-xattr --distro-compatibility official --include-gpl-addons --include-patented-code \
[17:00:38] <humdinger> --build-cross-tools ../../../buildtools --alternative-gcc-output-dir ../generated-gcc4
[17:00:58] <humdinger> there's probably one less ../ to reach the buildtools
[17:01:15] <postmen> ah, thanks, tab should show me ..
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[17:07:10] <humdinger> brb
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[17:18:46] <Barrett> postmen, pretty fine
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[17:19:59] * mmu_man thinks we should just automatically probe for the xattr backend
[17:20:03] <humdinger> not sick of UltraDV already? :)
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[17:23:54] <Anarchos> hi everybody
[17:24:19] <humdinger> ho Anarchos
[17:25:14] <Anarchos> humdinger how are you ?
[17:25:28] <humdinger> no complaints
[17:27:57] <Anarchos> nice :)
[17:30:31] <Barrett> humdinger, I'm working on the backend
[17:30:51] <Barrett> but got locked in an Haiku's issue and I need some breath usually to act in the righ way
[17:31:41] <Barrett> anyway we're towards to having some rendering to file
[17:32:07] <humdinger> handy feature for a video editor. :)
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[17:32:21] <Barrett> especially if you think it's missing from the original source : p
[17:38:11] <Barrett> generally talking I think they were in the process of moving a demonstrative demo into a real functioning program
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[17:39:23] <Barrett> it's obvious now that I have more precise vision of the project
[17:39:39] <Barrett> especially after removing their codecs for Haiku's ones
[17:41:56] <humdinger> Barrett: so that means UltraDV is probably a bit further off still from being a productive app?
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[17:48:06] <Barrett> humdinger, there's need some work
[17:48:17] <Barrett> but it's already able to do some things
[17:48:38] <humdinger> good to hear
[17:48:43] * humdinger is idle: BRB
[17:49:13] <Barrett> like changing audio tracks or mixing video
[17:49:56] <Barrett> but surely not something at level of concurrent systems
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[18:12:48] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-2/±0] https://git.io/v6e2V
[18:12:50] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson 3bc4b6f - lighttpd: bump to 1.4.41, drop patch (applied upstream ;-)
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[18:47:48] <_Dario_> Hello. There are some way to deal with the configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
[18:47:54] <_Dario_> error in Haiku?
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[18:48:28] <_Dario_> error in Haiku?"" error in Haiku?
[18:48:44] <_Dario_> sorry for the typo
[18:50:02] <postmen> year, had that problem too when compilin' hugs on haiku.
[18:51:00] <postmen> u gotta remove configure.guess and one more, than it should work. maybe there are although other solutions, like specify a build type by settin' an attribute but i couldn't find that one.
[18:53:09] <postmen> _Dario_, replace configure.guess with https://hackage.haskell.org/package/network-2.6.2.1/src/config.guess and configure.sub with https://hackage.haskell.org/package/network-2.6.2.1/src/config.sub
[18:53:34] <bbjimmy> how long does it take Haiku Depot Web to update after a package is updated on a repo?
[18:55:03] <_Dario_> thank you postmen!
[18:55:12] <_Dario_> I will try with that :-)
[19:01:47] <Barrett> framerate precise video editing vs framerate friendly
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[19:16:10] <IIsi50MHz> _Dario_, postmen: Had same problems compiling something recently.
[19:17:57] <IIsi50MHz> Inside configure.guess, I found references to BeOS, so I added Haiku as copy of BeOS BePC. Strangely, some other parts of compilation already referred to Haiku
[19:21:12] <_Dario_> I'm using the config.guess and the config.sub that postmen send, and it's working...
[19:25:45] <postmen> IIsi50MHz: what u talkin' about? you don't have to modifie configure.guess - well, ok, so u used the old one? maybe that's better. i now nothin' about dependencies.
[19:30:02] <IIsi50MHz> Different program. One of the Forth versions.
[19:32:00] <postmen> well, i thought of your solution too - only problem was, iirc, that i didn't know how it was called, haiku, Haiku, Haiku OS, haiku OS ...
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[19:32:58] <johnny_b> WalterOS!
[19:35:43] <postmen> johnny_b: https://www.google.de/search?q=walteros
[19:36:19] <johnny_b> so?
[19:37:30] <postmen> just thought it would be funny, the name of the dentist. ;)
[19:38:00] <Anarchos> postmen right, in nem !!
[19:38:01] <Anarchos> nemo
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[19:57:45] <_Dario_> anyone was porting Qt5 apps recently?
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[20:06:53] <postmen> no, why?
[20:07:16] <mmu_man> yeah ?
[20:07:18] <postmen> might one ask on the 3th party mailinglist?
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[20:07:35] <_Dario_> I tried using the package avaible in the HaikuDepot
[20:07:46] <mmu_man> it mostly works for sleepyhead
[20:07:51] <mmu_man> had to disable OpenGL though
[20:07:55] <_Dario_> but apparently, don't save the preferences
[20:08:00] <mmu_man> ah
[20:08:11] <postmen> https://www.haiku-os.org/community/forum/qt_53_haiku_progress
[20:08:17] <mmu_man> well I tried to patch it to detect serial ports properly but can't build a working package
[20:08:20] <postmen> https://forum.qt.io/topic/32967/porting-qt-5-on-haiku
[20:08:42] <_Dario_> apparently, when using the QSettings module, don't work correctly
[20:08:58] <_Dario_> probably is looking for a path that doesn't exists in Haiku, or some kind of
[20:10:57] <postmen> well, that sounds like it should be handable
[20:13:21] <_Dario_> yes... at this moment, I managed to modify manually the source, to use a valid path, like "/home"
[20:13:43] <_Dario_> but is a bit painfully if there are a lot of source files
[20:29:51] <FlyingJester> sed can be your friend.
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[20:33:10] <_Dario_> yes, you are right, FlyingJester
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[20:38:05] <mmu_man> well, that should be fixable, but as I said, I couldn't get to build a usable package
[20:38:13] <mmu_man> for some reason it screws up stack alignment
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[20:42:46] <postmen> well, the pitty is, that such stuff isn't documented. neither how it worked, what worked of why it failed at the end.
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[20:51:07] <postmen> how did you obtain qt? they ask all sorts of questions when i try. and did u know that there is a qtcon in berlin at the begin of september this year!?
[21:04:42] <munchausen> postmen I think the correct way to fix the configure.guess issue is to do "libtoolize -fci"
[21:04:50] <munchausen> sorry config.guess
[21:05:38] <munchausen> uh no configure.guess agh
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[21:14:47] <postmen> wow, thanks
[21:16:55] <postmen> stupid question. what does runConfigure ./configure --enable-shared mean? and why do a autoconf bevore? like https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/dev-cpp/mxml/mxml-2.9.recipe - i thought ./configure would be enough.
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[21:22:42] <munchausen> runConfigure runs the command following (./configure) and passes as additional options all the standard haiku directory locations for binaries, libs etc
[21:23:33] <postmen> ohh goush (how do u spell it), had i known this bevore, it might had easen things a lot.
[21:26:22] <munchausen> and autoconf needs to be done if you've changed the autoconf input script (configure.am or configure.in). Autoconf regenrates the configure script from that input
[21:26:43] <munchausen> It could also be that you changed some of the other input files
[21:27:00] <munchausen> automake is similar but for the makefile
[21:27:29] <munchausen> It can be easiest just to run autoreconf, it will run libtoolize, aclocal, autoconf and automake for you to try and get something coherent out
[21:28:38] <postmen> well, for hugs i haven't changed anything. - sorry, but i didn't get any of your explanation. autoconf or autoreconf, what's recommanded?
[21:28:47] <munchausen> "autoreconf -i" often seems to do the trick
[21:28:57] <postmen> thank u.
[21:29:22] <munchausen> if it doesn't work you can try combinations of the other tools
[21:29:53] <munchausen> postmen you often wont need to touch any of them, this is just an explanation for why you sometimes do need to
[21:31:54] <postmen> well, in my case i can't compile and i'm getting a bunch of warnings and errors. I've been wonderin' lookin' further into it, but that might not be necessary. And i expect it to be path not set. However, output makes the expression as if the source code is a mess - what i strongly doubt.
[21:32:50] <munchausen> Are they compiler warnings?
[21:33:20] <munchausen> If you pastebin something I can try to help
[21:37:41] <postmen> well, no, they arent't. i had somethin' on pastebin but i think it's gone. give me 15 minutes. however, i'm afraid it's errors in haikus posix or so, something, nobody want's to hear about. well, just a second.
[21:38:54] <postmen> 'cause, funny thing is, it worked under h1a4 iirc.
[21:44:48] <postmen> well, now i'm gettin' a syntax error while runnin' configure. Wonder if that's a new error or if the old ones where referenced to that one.
[21:50:13] <postmen> well, i think i doesn't work here. error is ..., well, never mind.
[21:50:54] <postmen> gcc no longer implements varargs.h
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[21:51:28] <postmen> Strategy was, to start with the oldest version and compile one by one the next one.
[21:51:59] <postmen> Problem however is, that the oldest one are even to old for haik now, why the newest once don't work either ...
[21:54:13] <postmen> that however would explain why it worked under h1r4.
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[22:01:07] <munchausen> postmen can't you build with gcc2 then?
[22:01:23] <munchausen> What are you building?
[22:05:23] <postmen> hugs, the former compiler of haskell.
[22:05:38] <postmen> and my haiku for some reason doesn't know the command runConfigure
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[22:11:08] <munchausen> I think runConfigure is only available inside haikuporter builds
[22:11:29] <munchausen> jessicah gave me a working ghc hpkg a while ago (with cabal)
[22:11:38] <munchausen> I've never used higs
[22:11:40] <munchausen> *hugs
[22:13:17] <postmen> well, i thought it be a nice port for educational purpose.
[22:15:59] <munchausen> it would be good to have a haskell compiler that builds reliably!
[22:18:23] <postmen> well, hugs is kind a outdated, but i thought it might be reliable. if compiled successfully.
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[22:41:41] <pecan> I dont even think hugs can build ghc
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[22:48:01] <postmen> pecan, i think it is required to build the first ghc - but that's something i haven't fully understand.
[22:48:44] <pecan> Legend has it that H.P. Lovecraft was inspired by GHC's build process.
[22:50:12] <postmen> what?
[22:50:36] <postmen> He's dead jim!
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[23:30:56] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: anevilyak * hrev50464 [3 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=17954f2e22cb+%5Eebb20270fdb0
[23:30:57] <HAIKU-irker848> b02ee147b1b4: libdebugger: Reorganize debugger_interface subdir.
[23:30:58] <HAIKU-irker848> 9c9c24ce0839: libdebugger: Add accessor for cpu state size.
[23:30:59] <HAIKU-irker848> 17954f2e22cb: libdebugger: Initial work for remote support.
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[23:54:54] <munchausen> Is there a list of haikuporter variables somewhere? Like destination directories etc?
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