July 23, 2016 
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July 23, 2016 [00:01:52] *** stippi_ <stippi_!~stippi@x4e37c28a.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[00:01:57] *** miqlas-H <miqlas-H!~vision@HSI-KBW-109-193-200-105.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[00:06:03] *** stippi_ <stippi_!~stippi@x4e37c28a.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:09:09] <waddlesplash> ... our strstr is not linear time apparently[00:09:33] <Skipp_OSX> better or worse?[00:09:41] <waddlesplash> uh, worse, of course[00:10:02] <waddlesplash> how can strstr be any better than linear time?[00:10:20] *** postmen is now known as postmen|afk[00:10:34] <waddlesplash> ... actually, how can it be anything BUT linear time[00:10:40] <Skipp_OSX> I'm not sure but i thought we had an optimized versions of strstr[00:10:43] <waddlesplash> oh, nvm, I though of a way[00:12:25] *** oxygene <oxygene!~fred@ALille-652-1-34-143.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[00:14:53] *** postmen|afk <postmen|afk!~tonyc@p5B151C5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[00:17:17] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vKDNz[00:17:18] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] Begasus 883f45c - libunistring: Cleaned up layout.[00:17:19] *** Paianni <Paianni!~sailfish@cpc16-heme9-2-0-cust232.9-1.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:17:33] <waddlesplash> hooray, we're below 20 again[00:17:34] *** Paianni <Paianni!~sailfish@cpc16-heme9-2-0-cust232.9-1.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haiku[00:17:37] <waddlesplash> er, sorry, at 20[00:17:54] *** Paianni <Paianni!~sailfish@cpc16-heme9-2-0-cust232.9-1.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:26:50] <mmu_man> hmm[00:26:51] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~mikel@naiwall.numerical.com> has joined #haiku[00:26:55] <mmu_man> unhandled page fault at 0xc[00:27:09] <mmu_man> in the nforce NIC driver...[00:27:21] <mmu_man> bad locking I'd say[00:29:28] <mmu_man> as it's an SMP box[00:30:15] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~mikel@naiwall.numerical.com> has left #haiku[00:30:21] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~mikel@naiwall.numerical.com> has joined #haiku[00:31:41] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~mikel@naiwall.numerical.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:31:52] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~mikel@naiwall.numerical.com> has joined #haiku[00:40:07] *** TwoFx <TwoFx!6d5a6c38@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.90.108.56> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:45:00] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/vKDpr[00:45:01] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] korli b002b60 - binutils: added recipe for version 2.26.1.[00:45:56] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!vision@192.95.205.215> has joined #haiku[00:46:17] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: korli * hrev50446 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6f087f38ee3e+%5E606ae81af479[00:46:19] <HAIKU-irker848> 6f087f38ee3e: Update binutils packages.[00:56:34] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.159> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:12:27] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d75-156-158-178.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[01:12:41] <Vidrep> waddlesplash[01:13:34] <waddlesplash> hai[01:13:46] <waddlesplash> ... ooh, a registrar crash[01:13:50] <waddlesplash> on a BeOS application, too[01:13:52] <waddlesplash> this should be fun[01:14:13] <waddlesplash> OH NO[01:14:52] <waddlesplash> Oh. never mind. not as bad as I thought[01:14:57] <waddlesplash> still have no clue what's up[01:15:12] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:16:10] *** regreg <regreg!regreg@85.121.54.224> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[01:16:25] *** regreg <regreg!regreg@85.121.54.224> has joined #haiku[01:16:55] *** Blub\w <Blub\w!~wry@unaffiliated/blubw/x-6625061> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:20:28] <Vidrep> waddlesplash, I created a new ticket for that mouse problem discussed earlier. You can batch the original ticket #10347 with new ticket #12873. Please.[01:21:10] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: huh? why would I do that[01:21:18] <waddlesplash> they look like separate issues with separate info[01:21:26] <Vidrep> OK, better yet close the old ticket[01:21:56] <waddlesplash> is it invalid?[01:22:30] <Vidrep> The problem was 2 PC's, same mouse, and different symtoms. It just made things too confusing.[01:23:05] * waddlesplash sure is confused[01:23:43] <waddlesplash> IDK why you want me to close the older ticket[01:24:14] <Vidrep> That same mouse behaves in quite a different way on another PC, which uses a different chipset.[01:24:27] <waddlesplash> on non-Haiku, you mean?[01:24:28] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4e35a79d.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[01:24:30] <waddlesplash> or on Haiku as well[01:24:37] <Vidrep> Both use Haiku[01:24:49] <waddlesplash> because if it behaves differently on the Haiku installs but the same on Linux or whatever, that's a Haiku bug[01:25:40] *** PasNox <PasNox!~pasnox@2a01:e34:ee42:d070:c576:b0a0:fbb:b2c8> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:25:55] *** PasNox <PasNox!~pasnox@2a01:e34:ee42:d070:cc7d:1315:548c:6b80> has joined #haiku[01:27:21] <Vidrep> It's definately a Haiku bug[01:27:37] <waddlesplash> ok, so then leave both open[01:27:49] * waddlesplash is trying to get a debug build of the registrar[01:29:04] * waddlesplash sincerely hopes this does not make his system unbootable[01:30:07] <waddlesplash> whelp, it's unbootable[01:30:17] <waddlesplash> this will be about 1000% harder to do then[01:31:13] * waddlesplash attaches gcc4h image to VM and reboots[01:34:22] <Vidrep> Having fun are you?[01:35:38] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-120-150.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[01:39:45] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[01:46:40] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: I suppose that's one word for it[01:46:51] <waddlesplash> I've never fixed a registrar crash before, so I don't know if I'll be able to do it[01:50:42] *** farcas82 <farcas82!regreg@85.121.54.224> has joined #haiku[01:50:55] *** regreg <regreg!regreg@85.121.54.224> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:53:21] <Vidrep> New challenges[01:57:56] *** eanyx <eanyx!~olivier@log78-1-82-242-45-108.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[02:01:54] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d75-156-158-178.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[02:04:51] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/vKyU6[02:04:52] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson f5f4c5a - unrar: bump to 5.4.3.[02:12:17] <waddlesplash> heh, now I can't reproduce it[02:13:40] <waddlesplash> oh well[02:20:56] *** pixdamix <pixdamix!~pix@unaffiliated/pixdamix> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)[02:21:04] *** happy-dude <happy-dude!uid62780@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xfhdplotabemezqp> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:23:50] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@174-21-57-64.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:32:51] *** eanyx <eanyx!~olivier@log78-1-82-242-45-108.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:46:23] *** orealis <orealis!~cre8or@51.174.179.178> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection 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seconds)[12:49:30] *** mikedld <mikedld!~mikedld@mikedld.com> has joined #haiku[13:05:17] <stargater> moin miqlas-H[13:08:01] <mmu_man> plop[13:12:47] <miqlas-H> hi[13:17:47] <miqlas-H> Guys, is it a big expectation, if i say for an engineer: "make a ZIP archive", to get it without questions, like "How can i do it?"[13:19:15] <stargater> re. klick on windows explorer :-)[13:21:25] <miqlas-H> I don't expect fully Network Admin skills from the collegues (they are mechanical engneers), but it costs too much time to explain everything in details. Right click, 7 zip, create archive, select zip, press ok.[13:22:00] <stargater> work you on windows, unix?[13:22:35] <miqlas-H> windos[13:22:49] <miqlas-H> nothing fancy.[13:22:57] <stargater> hmm[13:24:41] <miqlas-H> Actually it makes me angry, if i sit with my collegues, and try to explain something, i say "press this toolbar button, and the ok" they are pressing the button, a new small window opens, and they just waiting. And i'm just like "there is your ok, press it, goddamnit"[13:27:31] <miqlas-H> ok, i can expect the same mind-set from the collegues, but hey, it is serious work, and they just sitting there, and if i don't try to press them, then they just doing sht. I told to some, with 1 year experience: "Look, i can't give you any work now, so please, open your program, and try to experiment with it, use all the buttons, to see, what they making.[13:27:44] <miqlas-H> But 10 minutes later he was on internet.[13:27:50] <miqlas-H> Eeeeeeeeeehhh.[13:29:51] <miqlas-H> Of course, they visiting some misterious face-collection website, with this blueish color. Maybe you know it.[13:30:13] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df59:d200:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[13:30:38] <miqlas-H> And if something goes wrong in the work, they just get panic. Sht[13:35:43] <stargater> jop[13:36:36] <miqlas-H> If i say, use a standard bolt there, they are in panic. What kind of screw? A standard one! Where can i find it? In your book, gooddamnit.[13:36:44] <stargater> del- the web browser[13:36:57] <stargater> install bash and work on it[13:37:00] <miqlas-H> it is just a hexagon with a cylinder, godhelpme.[13:38:48] <miqlas-H> i go to the office at morning, give tasks for everybody, explain everything as good as i can. I ask them, did you understand everything? YES. Any question? NO. Then i sit before my computer, trying to solve something, but i can't, because in 2 minute later they are comming to me to ask stupid questions.[13:39:15] <miqlas-H> Yes, we need washer there.[13:39:29] <miqlas-H> Yes, it should be also a standard part.[13:39:43] <miqlas-H> Yes, you can find it in your book too.[13:40:02] <stargater> what a job you have[13:40:04] <miqlas-H> A washer is not quantummechanic. If you want to draw it it is just 2 circe.[13:40:23] <miqlas-H> But they are downloading it from internet....[13:40:28] <miqlas-H> Eeeeeeeeeeeeee.[13:40:35] <stargater> lol[13:40:39] <miqlas-H> Braind exlpoding.[13:41:18] <miqlas-H> I'm technical lead eingineer in car industry[13:41:53] <miqlas-H> But the best of all, i got a wormate, who whining all the time to me: "I think i wasn't efficient today."[13:41:58] <stargater> ohn i think it better i drive no cars in the future :-)[13:42:15] <miqlas-H> I answered all the time, don't panic, just make your stuff, everything will be alright.[13:42:43] <stargater> work you on self driving cars too?[13:42:49] <miqlas-H> After some days, as he whined to me again (every day, 5-6 times doing he this), i told, yes, you didn't did anything today.[13:43:28] <miqlas-H> He was just "Didin't i?'[13:44:28] <miqlas-H> I told him: In the last week i haven't herad anything from your, just that you think you aren't efficient. Do't tell me anything like that, because maybe i will trust you.[13:44:35] <miqlas-H> And you don't want that.[13:44:52] <miqlas-H> stargater: thank for god, not.[13:45:08] <miqlas-H> It would be a really big thing for the workamtes.[13:45:44] <stargater> ah ok :-)[13:45:50] <miqlas-H> I think the company trying to spare money, so we have a plenty engineers without real work experience...[13:46:16] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@219.89.220.160> has joined #haiku[13:46:17] <miqlas-H> And if i try to give them a real task, to get some information, they just panic.[13:46:33] <miqlas-H> I have no idea, how should i make it better.[13:47:14] <stargater> Emphasis of real work[13:47:14] <miqlas-H> I just can't sit behind everybody, and explain, click on this icon. Not that! Yes, and now, click on this thing, Nooooooo. This one.[13:47:23] <miqlas-H> Sht, is it kindergarden?[13:47:42] <stargater> yes it is[13:47:49] <stargater> unproductiv[13:50:08] <stargater> what do you expect when people know only windows[13:50:08] <miqlas-H> If i say them, go one livel higher in the Directory structure (they have Explorer window open), they just ask me: What? How?"[13:50:13] <miqlas-H> OMG.[13:50:40] <miqlas-H> the point is, they don't know windows.[13:50:45] <miqlas-H> either[13:51:31] <miqlas-H> so i'm kindergarden-leader now.[13:51:31] <stargater> frustrations[13:51:54] <miqlas-H> one doing drawings.[13:51:56] <stargater> yeahh a leader[13:53:14] <miqlas-H> crating measures. And just threw the mesaure in the middle of the geometry.. If i say: don't do that, you should crate a visually nice drawing, then he pull the measure line one mile away.[13:53:16] <stargater> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh5JjErbXE8[13:53:21] <miqlas-H> And i just ask: Why?[13:53:25] <stargater> windows experiens team,,, lol[13:53:26] <miqlas-H> Why do you do that?[13:54:24] <miqlas-H> S some of them remembers me to the HackerTeam.[13:56:01] <miqlas-H> And the best of all, i have special name, so if i hear Uhhhhhhhh.... then i know well, somebody have a problem, and just trying to remember to my name.[13:56:22] <miqlas-H> to call me here[13:57:28] <miqlas-H> But i have my own tasks, and i'm sitting at the computer of the collegues, and do they work, because thy have no idea.[13:58:50] <miqlas-H> If somebody working in education sphere, then my 2 cents: educate user tools instead powerpoint![13:59:28] <miqlas-H> I don't care about presentations, but if i say: make me a zip, then fukkin' do that. Without questions.[14:00:32] <miqlas-H> is it really so much expectation?[14:00:33] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!~Kushal@122.168.48.12> has joined #haiku[14:01:18] <stargater> better used garphviz[14:01:54] <stargater> what[14:01:56] <miqlas-H> is it some kind of mind-mapping tool?[14:02:00] <stargater> what is your name[14:02:12] <miqlas-H> hungarian one.[14:02:41] <miqlas-H> But not Attila.[14:02:53] <stargater> https://www.google.de/search?q=graphviz&biw=1024&bih=630&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIrPGXxYnOAhULVSwKHTOSBlcQ_AUIBigB[14:03:32] <miqlas-H> They can't understand so difficult graphs.[14:04:33] <miqlas-H> The company, where i worked before, got a CV from an engineer. They asked me, what i think about her CV.[14:04:50] <miqlas-H> I've seen: experiences with CAD: 20.000 hours.[14:05:01] <miqlas-H> I had at this time around 1000.[14:05:25] <miqlas-H> I just told: we are not NASA, we don't need anybody with so much experiences.[14:05:51] <miqlas-H> They told me: if we don't give her a job, then somebody else will, and we need somebody.[14:05:56] <miqlas-H> I told okay.[14:06:20] <miqlas-H> And then 2 months long i made nothing else, just trainings for the new collegue.[14:06:37] <miqlas-H> What's this?[14:07:30] <PulkoMandy> maybe go work at the NASA then?[14:07:39] <miqlas-H> Ok, i know, you just can't teach abstraction, but hey, they are engineers. It is not my task to teach them thinking.[14:07:55] <miqlas-H> PulkoMandy: i thought the same[14:08:54] <miqlas-H> One collegue wanted to test my knowledge, so he gave me same questions about DOS file management....[14:09:00] <miqlas-H> EEeeeeeeh.[14:10:06] <miqlas-H> I started my computer-life with DOS. I exlained everything, and the diferences between DOS and u*ix like OS's.[14:11:04] <miqlas-H> but the *.* making problems for plenty people.[14:11:10] <miqlas-H> i just can't understand.[14:11:46] <stargater> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphviz[14:12:06] <stargater> or ESA[14:12:13] <stargater> ESA are cool[14:12:41] <miqlas-H> European Space Agency?[14:12:59] <miqlas-H> then i whould go to the HSA.[14:13:33] <miqlas-H> Hungarian Space Agency[14:14:13] <miqlas-H> we sent one or two minisats into the Weltraum.[14:15:40] <stargater> jop[14:16:01] <stargater> nice[14:16:59] <stargater> or we make a small team with freelancers and work at home, we need a sponsor[14:17:44] <stargater> and work for make the world better, also no facebook php or anythink[14:18:17] <miqlas-H> just think abot the following: i gave a task for somebody: here is two sheetmetal part with holes, make a connection between them like on the phisical part, what we got. Here is measure tools.[14:18:18] <stargater> nasa, esa, maybe google, apple,[14:18:36] *** stippi_ <stippi_!~stippi@x4db49701.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[14:18:37] <stargater> no politics and war stuff[14:18:42] <miqlas-H> I heard 20 minutes later, that he tring to measure something, unsucessful.[14:18:57] <miqlas-H> I went there, and asked him: What is your problem?[14:19:13] <miqlas-H> He told: I cannot measure the thickness of the washer.[14:19:23] <miqlas-H> There isn't enough place.[14:19:30] <stargater> ahh[14:19:37] <miqlas-H> And i was just like: Why do you want to measure it?[14:19:46] <miqlas-H> Because i need to redraw it.[14:19:55] <miqlas-H> Ok, but where is your problem?[14:20:05] <miqlas-H> He was just: I can't measure it.[14:20:15] <miqlas-H> I told? it is 2 mm.[14:20:30] <miqlas-H> He was like: Are you sure?[14:21:21] <miqlas-H> Andi was: no, but you know it is a M12 screw (nominal outer diameter is 12 mm), so you can find a standard washer in you tecnical book.[14:21:37] <miqlas-H> We checked it, it is actually 2,5 m.[14:21:50] <miqlas-H> He needed 20 minutes for that.[14:23:16] *** stippi_ <stippi_!~stippi@x4db49701.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[14:23:43] <miqlas-H> If i don't go there, maybe he would trying to measure it yet always.[14:23:56] <miqlas-H> yet longer[14:24:39] <miqlas-H> own decision to get from this collegues? Are you crazy? They can't.[14:25:51] <miqlas-H> Ok, i wasn't was better as a fresh engineer, but i didn't asked the collegues, because i knewd it is a stupid question.[14:26:54] <miqlas-H> So now, if i say, make me herea nut, bolt and washer, it takes for them some hours.[14:26:57] <miqlas-H> HOURS![14:27:56] <stargater> lol[14:28:07] <stargater> that not good job[14:29:51] <stargater> miqlas-H: relax and go ahead and think, what is your dream job or what will you du to have fun with your pc[14:30:16] <miqlas-H> i did already some ports during my working hours :)[14:30:24] <miqlas-H> But i need to go now.[14:30:27] <miqlas-H> Goodbye![14:30:32] <stargater> jop ok[14:30:38] <miqlas-H> And sorry for my frustration.[14:30:50] *** miqlas-H <miqlas-H!~vision@88.198.80.7> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[14:30:54] <stargater> no problem[14:50:36] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has joined #haiku[14:51:52] *** Barrett is now 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kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!~Kushal@122.168.48.12> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[23:10:29] *** lelldorin <lelldorin!~chatzilla@x4e363355.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421])[23:17:08] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:17:35] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:18:32] *** pixdamix <pixdamix!~pix@unaffiliated/pixdamix> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[23:19:22] <munchausen> recent USB3 changes didn't make haiku bootable on any of my USB3 only machines :([23:20:07] *** bb010g <bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gvgultcydmxhzfkh> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[23:20:08] <waddlesplash> munchausen: it's still only selectively enabled[23:20:15] <waddlesplash> you have to enable it for your chipset[23:20:26] <munchausen> At some point I'm going to dd an image onto this machine, but need to figure out EFI boot with haiku[23:20:42] <munchausen> waddlespalsh oh really? So I need to build my own image?[23:25:23] *** pixdamix <pixdamix!~pix@unaffiliated/pixdamix> has joined #haiku[23:26:04] <waddlesplash> munchausen: I think you can swap out the bus managers using non-packaged?[23:26:11] <waddlesplash> I could be wrong, I don't think I've done it[23:30:12] *** postmen <postmen!~tonyc@p5B151F4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[23:32:41] *** regreg is now known as farcas82[23:35:22] *** farcas82 is now known as regreg[23:37:55] *** miqlas-H <miqlas-H!~vision@HSI-KBW-109-193-200-105.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #haiku[23:38:06] <miqlas-H> Hi![23:39:43] <IIsi50MHz> miqlas-H: That was a good rant, thank you! I've experienced much of this myself.[23:40:30] <IIsi50MHz> Like, a message box appears with one sentence and only an OK button...and they call for help without even reading it.[23:40:53] <IIsi50MHz> But I don't mind help repeatedly the people who are trying very hard.[23:41:15] <IIsi50MHz> Just the lazy ones who don't even try, grrrr.[23:41:51] <mmu_man> good old RTFM times :)[23:42:09] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!~Kushal@122.168.48.12> has joined #haiku[23:43:03] <IIsi50MHz> Maybe that AutoCAD 20.000 hours person used the American formatting? Twenty, point, zero-zero-zero! :-D[23:45:07] <IIsi50MHz> Man, I wish IRCCloud on Andriod made it easy to copy large amounts of text, instead of just one line. (:[23:55:07] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!~Kushal@122.168.48.12> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[23:57:46] *** geoid <geoid!~geoid@2a02:c7d:9b86:6300:20be:e69:fb3d:480d> has quit IRC (Quit: Lingo: www.lingoirc.com)