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[00:00:00] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: korli * hrev50430 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b1811a3a4528+%5E578fabdea36f
[00:00:01] <HAIKU-irker848> b1811a3a4528: Update cmake, libogg and llvm packages for x86.
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[00:06:03] <mmu_man> make[1]: Leaving directory '/mnt/data/devel/haiku/trunk/generated-m68k-gcc4/cross-tools-m68k-build/gcc'
[00:06:06] <mmu_man> binutils and gcc for cross compilation have been built successfully!
[00:07:24] <Barrett> so now you can compile haiku sw for a platform where Haiku don't run? :)
[00:08:35] <Barrett> I wonder how you plan to trim the system so that it will run
[00:08:45] <Barrett> is there any hope to have the app_server run?
[00:12:05] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: axeld * hrev50431 [3 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a449e2305cd4+%5Eb1811a3a4528
[00:12:06] <HAIKU-irker848> 0bcb836563b9: Tracker: Remove adding BeOS trash icons in trash watcher.
[00:12:07] <HAIKU-irker848> 36c80cff6e4f: Tracker: Fixed CachedEntryIterator::GetNextEntry() debug build.
[00:12:08] <HAIKU-irker848> a449e2305cd4: Tracker: Made open-with menu scale with font size.
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[00:14:08] <mmu_man> Barrett: well, strip all bins
[00:14:21] <mmu_man> disable a lot of debug stuff...
[00:14:48] <mmu_man> and, like, I think I already remove the PCI strings from the kernel so it fits the floppy size
[00:14:58] <mmu_man> the IDs should really be enough for what we need
[00:15:18] <mmu_man> ideally they'd be searched from a kernel module if we really need them
[00:16:54] <Barrett> but it will really fit 32MB?
[00:17:31] <Barrett> I mean with an userland
[00:17:38] <mmu_man> dunno
[00:17:50] <mmu_man> there's a lot of things we don't need on those machines
[00:18:07] <mmu_man> like USB drivers... (actually there's a NetUSBee which adds USB support)
[00:18:28] <mmu_man> it's a good opportunity to start profiling RAM & CPU :)
[00:20:40] <Barrett> yeah, that'd be nice
[00:21:12] <mmu_man> and I'd probably disable gradients in the GUI :D
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[00:33:17] <Vidrep> Hi Barrett
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[00:36:34] <Barrett> hi
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[00:54:42] <Vidrep> Hi Barrett
[00:55:04] <Vidrep> I seem to be having some network problems
[00:57:19] <Vidrep> What have you decided to do with UltraDV? Are you going to put it off for now and go back to streaming?
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[01:00:13] <Barrett> going back to streaming? lol
[01:00:59] <Barrett> I want to fix those 2-3 issues that I've leaved back
[01:01:18] <Barrett> but well I didn't receive an official reply relating my contract
[01:01:34] <Barrett> I consider that experience already closed
[01:02:05] <Barrett> so the short reply is that I'm putting a lot of efforts in UltraDV and see what it comes
[01:03:56] <Vidrep> I did a fresh install of 64 bit today to see if streaming works the same as 32 bit
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[01:10:56] <Vidrep> OK, I think I have my network problem fixed
[01:11:35] <Vidrep> Barrett, I copied my URLlist from 32 bit to test on 64 bit
[01:12:22] <Vidrep> Some of the URL's which work on 32 bit will cause a "no memory" error on 64 bit
[01:13:13] <Vidrep> I'll test it out again tomorrow and put together a list of problem URL's
[01:13:45] <Vidrep> Some of the streams are affected by the ffmpeg audio bug on 64 bit as well
[01:18:26] <Vidrep> Here's one to try: http://nostalgierockparty.ice.infomaniak.ch/nostalgierockparty-128.mp3
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[01:37:57] <Barrett> I will not look at solving 64 bit issues anyway
[01:38:04] <Vidrep> OK
[01:39:13] <Vidrep> Understandable since the official release is x86_gcc2
[01:39:32] <Vidrep> I'll creat a ticket for future reference
[01:39:36] <Vidrep> create
[01:42:38] <Barrett> I have lots of code to remove from UltraDV
[01:43:03] <Barrett> then move certain things to use BLooper as it should be
[01:43:26] <Vidrep> That report gives everybody a heads up so they won't have unrealistic expectations
[01:43:28] <Barrett> something like I could go around and act like picasso painting
[01:43:55] <Barrett> and the result would be a pollock
[01:43:56] <Barrett> LoL
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[01:49:21] <Vidrep> When do you expect the week to end?
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[01:57:24] <Barrett> Vidrep, in 7 days
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[02:06:38] <Vidrep> From 7 days starting when? Monday?
[02:07:48] <Barrett> today
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[02:24:32] <waddlesplash> (echelog now has HTTPS)
[02:26:20] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50432 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=dcdb22ed4e59+%5Ea449e2305cd4
[02:26:21] <HAIKU-irker848> dcdb22ed4e59: 3DMov: Remove from tree, now lives at HaikuArchives.
[02:29:32] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50433 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=04039d6f3039+%5Edcdb22ed4e59
[02:29:33] <HAIKU-irker848> 04039d6f3039: BStringView: Proper color inheritence.
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[02:39:15] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2935 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/2935 blamelist: looncraz <looncraz at looncraz dot net>, Augustin Cavalier <waddlesplash at gmail dot com>
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[02:41:22] <mmu_man> bleh
[02:41:44] <mmu_man> 2h just to find out that the stupid configure check in libiberty discards headers just because of the warnings they contain
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[02:59:52] <Barrett> programmer's life :-)
[03:01:07] <mmu_man> yeah
[03:01:16] <mmu_man> for once I wanted to go to bed early :-(
[03:01:36] <mmu_man> OTOH I've finally got enough motivation to stick to it
[03:05:21] <mmu_man> ok, still building
[03:06:45] <stargater> mmu_man: what are you doing?
[03:07:42] <mmu_man> bootstrapping m68k again
[03:09:11] <Barrett> let's stick with it then :)
[03:09:26] <Barrett> I'll snooze inversely
[03:09:52] <Barrett> a lot of cleanup in UltraDV is waiting tomorrow
[03:10:11] <Barrett> https://github.com/Barrett17/UltraDV/commit/e197f7f89f64e4bd653ee4beaa1793ed8ec6c55a
[03:12:02] <Barrett> yuck
[03:13:30] <mmu_man> init_term_dyn.c:(.text+0x28): undefined reference to `get_image_symbol'
[03:13:35] <mmu_man> aw, it compiles but doesn't link
[03:15:12] <mmu_man> I might have to disable multilib though
[03:17:48] <mmu_man> why does it want to link to it then
[03:22:39] <mmu_man> gcc/gcc/config/m68k/haiku.h:#define CLEAR_INSN_CACHE(BEG, END)
[03:22:49] <mmu_man> why does only the m68k header have it?
[03:28:50] <stargater> mmu_man: how help this for haiku? m68k port?
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[03:33:09] <stargater> mmu_man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYpMOBaohbw
[03:36:11] <mmu_man> lol, nice :)
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[03:47:41] <stargater> the best m68k machine i have seen
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[04:04:34] <mmu_man> not the NeXT Cube?
[04:09:08] <FlyingJester> Not an Amiga?
[04:15:14] <mmu_man> :)
[04:25:24] <stargater> amiga 500
[04:26:02] <stargater> but the fist are apple 1 thats a magic maschine
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[04:32:01] <mmu_man> ORIC!
[04:32:15] <mmu_man> ok, so I should probably just use the same LINK_SPEC than x86
[04:32:24] <mmu_man> dump the -no-undefined for -shared
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[04:52:12] <mmu_man> so, rebuilding gcc again
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[05:42:38] <mmu_man> Populating source package ...
[05:42:39] <mmu_man> [Errno 28] No space left on device
[05:42:40] <mmu_man> damn
[05:42:42] <mmu_man> anyway
[05:42:44] <mmu_man> zz
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[07:28:34] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev50434 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f6c32ce31051+%5E04039d6f3039
[07:28:35] <HAIKU-irker848> f6c32ce31051: intel_extreme: Set FDI PLL RX lane count when enabling
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[07:57:08] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2936 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/2936
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[14:20:32] <mmu_man> summary "C/C++ cross-compiler for target m68k-unknown-haiku (source files)"
[14:20:32] <mmu_man> description "Standard compiler for x86 platform."
[14:20:38] <mmu_man> hmm :)
[14:21:51] <johnny_b> trojan compiler 8p
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[14:45:18] <Cld_> mmu_man: oups :)
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[17:00:17] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] korli pushed 5 commits to master [+5/-2/±3] https://git.io/vK6RU
[17:00:18] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] korli 84a1120 - expat: add recipe for version 2.2.0.
[17:00:20] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] korli cd01d72 - faad2: fix man page.
[17:00:21] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] korli 1b06db5 - libid3tag: enable x86.
[17:00:23] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] ... and 2 more commits.
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[17:03:53] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: korli * hrev50435 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b33ffcda12fc+%5Ef6c32ce31051
[17:03:54] <HAIKU-irker848> b33ffcda12fc: Update expat and wget packages.
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[18:09:00] <Vidrep> Good morning
[18:12:38] <humdinger> morning and bye.
[18:12:42] <humdinger> I'm off to bbq.
[18:12:45] <humdinger> :)
[18:13:05] * humdinger waves a hot coal
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[18:32:19] <Vidrep> kallisti5, any chance you could do a blog or progress report on your Intel Extreme work?
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[18:39:02] <mmu_man> ok now I need to implement some atomic stuff
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[18:54:29] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev50436 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=181391c106d8+%5Eb33ffcda12fc
[18:54:30] <HAIKU-irker848> 181391c106d8: ARM: Add TODO on barrier calls, we might need to do more here
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[19:24:24] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2749 of haiku-repository-x86_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_hybrid/builds/2749 blamelist: Fran?ois Revol <revol at free dot fr>
[19:24:31] <mmu_man> !notme
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[19:28:43] <stargater> mmu_man: has broke the build :-)
[19:29:19] <stargater> my haiku wont work anymore -> mmu_man whas it
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[19:30:15] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] korli pushed 4 commits to master [+4/-4/±2] https://git.io/vK6Nf
[19:30:17] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] korli 84d3051 - libao: switch to automake 1.13
[19:30:18] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] korli 781aade - opus: bump version.
[19:30:20] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] korli 0895295 - libsndfile: bump version.
[19:30:21] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] korli 61cfdaf - libogg: remove libtool file.
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[19:31:37] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: korli * hrev50437 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=468d85226699+%5E181391c106d8
[19:31:37] <HAIKU-irker848> 468d85226699: Update or add flac,libao,libsndfile,libogg,opus packages.
[19:58:19] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev50438 [3 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d704be3579ab+%5E468d85226699
[19:58:20] <HAIKU-irker848> 572ecd207d42: DeskCalc: Style fixes
[19:58:21] <HAIKU-irker848> f8056cd9a442: DeskCalc: Set base color to panel bg color by default
[19:58:22] <HAIKU-irker848> d704be3579ab: DeskCalc: Live update base color again
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[20:12:32] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2828 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/2828 blamelist: John Scipione <jscipione at gmail dot com>
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[20:26:18] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2750 of haiku-repository-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_hybrid/builds/2750
[20:31:11] <Skipp_OSX> yea \o/
[20:31:59] <mmu_man> stargater: Rumor has it!
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[20:51:52] <stargater> jop
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[21:22:28] <mmu_man> aw it's trying to link kernel_m68k :)
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[21:53:35] <mmu_man> let's see if the default arch_user_mem*() build
[21:55:07] <mmu_man> KernelLd /home/revol/devel/haiku/trunk/generated-m68k-gcc4/objects/haiku/m68k/release/system/kernel/kernel_m68k
[21:55:10] <mmu_man> XRes1 /home/revol/devel/haiku/trunk/generated-m68k-gcc4/objects/haiku/m68k/release/system/kernel/kernel_m68k
[21:55:36] <mmu_man> I think I'll use those for now with PPC as well
[21:55:44] <mmu_man> didn't even notice I didn't need asm versions
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[22:10:41] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev50439 [14 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=02283e080cbb+%5Ed704be3579ab
[22:10:42] <HAIKU-irker848> 47a20cd6d106: M68K: turn #warnings into comments in public headers
[22:10:43] <HAIKU-irker848> 3805f7222550: M68K: add arch_atomic.h
[22:10:44] <HAIKU-irker848> 58820fadb127: M68K: update bootstrap packages version
[22:10:45] <HAIKU-irker848> 7ab9993a1855: M68K: Add missing defines
[22:10:46] <HAIKU-irker848> 990d34efddb5: M68K: add arch_cpu_idle and arch_cpu_pause inline stubs
[22:10:47] <HAIKU-irker848> c094f0453745: M68K: dos2unix some files
[22:10:48] <HAIKU-irker848> d26fd5f68d11: M68K: drop the platform_type field, the enum is gone from OS.h
[22:10:49] <HAIKU-irker848> 830fd19eb59b: M68K: Fix spinlock initialization
[22:10:50] <HAIKU-irker848> 7cd7ba758c41: M68K: fix implicit casts of fault handler
[22:10:51] <HAIKU-irker848> ...
[22:10:59] <Barrett> lol big merge mmu_man !
[22:13:38] <mmu_man> :)
[22:15:19] <Skipp_OSX> whoa
[22:18:12] <postmen> hi Barrett
[22:18:18] <Barrett> hi postmen
[22:18:30] <postmen> wanted to ask u somethin' - but forgot about it.
[22:18:42] <Barrett> eh, :)
[22:19:02] <Barrett> put on the paper next time
[22:19:35] <postmen> right, that would have been an idea.
[22:20:23] <postmen> i guess it had to do with some haiku file if u think that would exist or somewhere on haiku-os.org where i read your name. btw, do you plan to go to begeistert?
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[22:23:58] <postmen> well, never mind, i'm fed up with portin'. everythin seems so complicated, i guess i gotta read a bit bevor trying again.
[22:24:11] <Barrett> no I'm not planning to go there
[22:24:12] <stargater> ok let's bet, which port finished arm vs m68k
[22:24:31] <Barrett> see later
[22:25:03] <postmen> stargater, what u say?
[22:26:24] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2829 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/2829
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[22:39:30] <johnny_b> postmen: you should guess which port would be completed first 8)
[22:41:54] <postmen> arm i guess, but hurry up, isn't that company sold?
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[23:22:49] <HAIKU-irker848> buildtools.master: mmu_man * btrev43118 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/buildtools/log/?qt=range&q=8865c113a660+%5E97e06d2ad65f
[23:22:50] <HAIKU-irker848> 8865c113a660: gcc: correct LINK_SPEC for m68k
[23:24:35] <waddlesplash> mmu_man: when will it boot :P
[23:27:56] <mmu_man> not yet I guess
[23:28:03] <mmu_man> need to fix some float crap in glibc
[23:28:12] <mmu_man> redefined atanl
[23:28:17] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vKiat
[23:28:18] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson 5e8ad7b - wget: switch HOMEPAGE to https and update COPYRIGHT years.
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[23:38:22] <stargater> mmu_man: https://www.ist-schlau.de/software.html
[23:43:28] <mmu_man> 68008 = no mmu
[23:43:34] <mmu_man> but yeah I recall seeing this one
[23:43:44] <mmu_man> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYpMOBaohbw
[23:49:11] <eschatologist> It's too bad there was no 68018
[23:53:06] <Skipp_OSX> IIRC the 68020 had an optional MMU add-on
[23:53:13] <mmu_man> yes
[23:53:19] <mmu_man> 030 is basically 020 + mmu
[23:54:53] <eschatologist> Skipp_OSX: Yes, that's 68851.
[23:55:10] <eschatologist> 68030 is more than just 68020 + 68851, but it's a not-unreasonable summary.
[23:55:35] <eschatologist> Just like 68040 is both more and less than 68030 + 68882. :)
[23:59:01] <mmu_man> actually the 040 has a stripped-down mmu (much less configurable pagetable layour and incompatible insns)
[23:59:16] <mmu_man> and same for the FPU, it lacks many opcodes
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