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[00:09:58] <Skipp_macOS> maybe she is excited about the possibility of Swift on Haiku
[00:11:19] <pecan> Maybe she enjoys Japanese rhythmic poetry.
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[00:57:23] <waddlesplash> Skipp_macOS: umm, it/she is a Taylor Swift parody account that talks about security in tech
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[00:58:20] <Skipp_macOS> waddlesplash, ok
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[02:22:14] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #767 of haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @nightly-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/767
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[04:30:17] <POTATONATION_AKA> Flash -- goodness shines through
[04:30:32] <POTATONATION_AKA> Boom -- Darkness regains control
[04:30:43] <POTATONATION_AKA> War in the heavens
[04:32:06] <POTATONATION_AKA> This channel is not what I thought it was
[04:32:15] <POTATONATION_AKA> So sorry
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[04:32:41] <pecan> LOL
[04:33:40] <FlyingJester> That was almost a haiku in itself.
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[04:40:34] <POTATONATION_AKA> FlyingJester: It was a haiku
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[04:40:45] <FlyingJester> ...
[04:41:14] <FlyingJester> He came back into the channel just to say that? Even though he 'wasn't here' when I said it?
[04:41:32] <FlyingJester> And I was talking about the 'This channls is not what I thought it was/So sorry' part :P
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[04:45:35] <Sebastian1408> maybe he's using a 2nd nickname on #haiku ;)
[04:45:44] <POTATONATION_AKA> FlyingJester: I'm obviously a very confused person
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[04:58:22] <pecan> time to /whois everyone in here.
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[05:20:29] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: autocommitter * hrev50417 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=57569abd14af+%5Ed72528839802
[05:20:30] <HAIKU-irker848> 7e3916140586: Update pci.ids from pciids.sourceforge.net
[05:20:31] <HAIKU-irker848> 57569abd14af: Update usb.ids from www.linux-usb.org
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[08:20:34] <stargate1> i dont understand why in haiku c code are not have a file type name .c -> http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/ati/driver.cpp
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[16:18:20] <Begasus> plop
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[16:31:34] <mmu_man> 11:50 < laurentb> http://blog.asciinema.org/post/and-now-for-something-completely-different/
[16:31:41] <mmu_man> aka "Let's Go back to python"
[16:38:22] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #688: crimson, new recipe for CrimsonFields - https://git.io/vKs2R
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[16:54:03] <stargate1> mmu_man: i love golang
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[17:18:25] <Begasus> oh whoot ;) Sunbird is still running on Haiku :)
[17:22:52] <humdinger> hu Begasus!
[17:23:02] <humdinger> who or what is a sunbird?
[17:23:57] <Begasus> hi humdinger :)
[17:24:06] <Begasus> mozilla's agenda app :)
[17:24:28] <humdinger> an app with an agenda...
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[17:25:05] <Begasus> http://screenshots.en.sftcdn.net/en/scrn/35000/35743/mozilla-sunbird-26.jpg
[17:25:19] <Begasus> not the one from BeOS there :)
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[17:27:28] <mmu_man> oh you mean icedove ? :D
[17:27:32] <mmu_man> er
[17:27:34] <mmu_man> iceowl :)
[17:28:08] <mmu_man> I thought it was only maintained as an addon to thunderbird
[17:28:09] <humdinger> thunderbird?
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[17:28:45] * Begasus slaps humdinger :)
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[17:29:02] * humdinger ducks behind his icecrow
[17:29:09] <Begasus> was running through some of my backups when I came accross it mmu_man :)
[17:29:39] <mmu_man> oh it's an old version ?
[17:29:41] <Begasus> I'm using thunderbird as my main email app on ubuntu :)
[17:29:44] <Begasus> yes
[17:30:22] <Begasus> SunBird.bone.20060303.zip
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[17:31:53] <Begasus> scummvm_0.12.0pre_beos.zip ... now that's an old one too ;)
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[19:48:36] <humdinger> hey does anyone here use Haiku with a midi keyboard?
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[19:55:39] <IIsi50MHz> humdinger: I have tried, a little, some time ago. It wouldn't boot with my M-Audio Uno USB attached, but seemed fine if I attached it after booting.
[19:56:11] <humdinger> I have no idea about midi or making music... :)
[19:56:16] <humdinger> so it works over USB then?
[19:56:53] <humdinger> I'd love to get some cheap small keyboard to play around with SyncModular etc.
[19:57:22] <humdinger> Any suggestion what keyboard to get?
[19:59:55] <IIsi50MHz> Lemme see if it's working now.
[20:00:44] <Begasus> k ... this is the first time I've seen this, why would a SDL app go lookiing for librcypto? (runtime_loader: Cannot open file libcrypto.so.1.0.0: No such file or directory)
[20:01:57] <IIsi50MHz> If you've played piano or even any expressive instrument much, I'd say at least make sure it is touch (velocity) sensitive.
[20:02:55] <humdinger> a quick duckduckgo search got me this page: http://www.hitsquad.com/cheap-midi-keyboard/
[20:02:57] <IIsi50MHz> Second, consider more than 31-note polyhony.
[20:03:07] <humdinger> the Arturia MiniLab doesn't look bad.
[20:03:12] <humdinger> lots of knobs :)
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[20:03:37] <IIsi50MHz> 64 polophony is much better. 128 if you're more serious.
[20:03:44] <IIsi50MHz> +y
[20:03:57] <humdinger> I'd use it only to control SM etc. under Haiku
[20:04:27] <IIsi50MHz> Ah, so just a midi controller with some piano keys.
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[20:05:14] <humdinger> yep. I don't play any instrument. so the most basic stuff is probably enough.
[20:05:16] <IIsi50MHz> I have an old Yamaha DXG-500
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[20:05:45] <IIsi50MHz> Don't skimp on touch sensitivity.
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[20:06:30] <humdinger> that Arturia MiniLab is 100€. that's probably my upper limit.
[20:10:10] <IIsi50MHz> Joy! It booted with the M-Audio Midisport 1x1 attached.
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[20:10:48] <IIsi50MHz> Had it hidden behind the keyboard for so long, I forgot which model it was.
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[20:14:05] <IIsi50MHz> MidiPlayer sees /dev/midi/usb on live input, but I'm not getting any response.
[20:15:08] <humdinger> PatchBay emtpy?
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[20:17:37] <IIsi50MHz> Probably don't have any MIDI stuff installed on this one.
[20:18:36] <humdinger> get http://www.sync-modular.org/ . cool app!
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[20:24:05] <IIsi50MHz> LMMS only offers dummy input for MIDI
[20:24:39] <IIsi50MHz> MeV has no option for input.
[20:25:30] <humdinger> Do you see your device in PatchBay?
[20:26:00] <humdinger> SyncModular has MIDI input
[20:26:01] <IIsi50MHz> Oh, MeV failed to exit. Trying LMMS again.
[20:26:26] <IIsi50MHz> Nope.
[20:27:09] <humdinger> that doesn't bode well then, I guess
[20:28:18] <IIsi50MHz> PatchBay says one in, one out.
[20:28:37] <IIsi50MHz> Forgot it was under demos.
[20:28:55] <humdinger> ok. then Haiku at least sees the stuff.
[20:29:04] <IIsi50MHz> And PatchBay responds to MIDI input.
[20:31:49] <IIsi50MHz> Works!
[20:32:05] <IIsi50MHz> Just mark the box in PatchBay.
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[20:32:35] <IIsi50MHz> Of course...MidiPlayer could have mentioned this.
[20:33:25] <IIsi50MHz> With the latency, I become a duet.
[20:33:49] <humdinger> heh. so it's a feature!
[20:34:07] <Begasus> add some more and you becomme a whole choir ;)
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[20:35:06] <IIsi50MHz> Might be better with more hamtsers.
[20:35:12] <Begasus> :)
[20:35:32] <IIsi50MHz> 1.49 GHz Pentium M, single core.
[20:35:42] <Begasus> trying to get tuxtype to work in Haiku (older version for tuxtype) ...
[20:36:13] <humdinger> SM seemed pretty responsive with the notebook keyboard.
[20:36:20] <humdinger> massive i7 here, of course.
[20:36:30] <humdinger> ...and no midi involved (yet).
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[20:43:33] <IIsi50MHz> Bleg, how some shortcuts are , Mac/Be style, and some Win/Lin style.
[20:44:03] <IIsi50MHz> Just closed Qup while trying to close a tab. (:
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[20:44:32] <Skipp_macOS> IIsi50MHz, getting shortcuts consistent seems like it is too much work
[20:44:33] <humdinger> An annoyance of the quipzilla port from day one for me...
[20:44:57] <IIsi50MHz> Hmm, when I relaunched it, it had also discarded the specified tab. Restored the rest.
[20:46:24] <Begasus> ps humdinger ... there is a new version out for lbreakout2 (and lgeneral iirc) :)
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[20:47:07] <humdinger> aha. I may have a look at it tomorrow. :)
[20:47:15] <humdinger> I'll log off for today.
[20:47:29] <humdinger> cu guys!
[20:47:33] <Begasus> already got it running, but haven't looked into it to mutch :)
[20:47:35] <Begasus> cu!
[20:47:46] <IIsi50MHz> I love "open target and close current window". Still can't do it in Windows.
[20:48:01] * humdinger waves
[20:48:01] <IIsi50MHz> ttfn humdinger
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[20:51:05] <IIsi50MHz> o.o Why does cmd-del identify a file?
[20:51:55] <Begasus> cmd:del
[20:51:59] <Begasus> *
[20:52:14] <Begasus> ps, not sure it's relevant ;)
[20:52:23] <IIsi50MHz> I meant to trash an item and hit cmd-del by mistake. Generic icon got replaced with zip file icon.
[20:52:58] <Begasus> eeeps
[20:53:56] <IIsi50MHz> It's correct about the filetype. I just didn't need the file.
[20:55:11] <Begasus> POLICY ERROR: Invalid top-level package entry "doc"
[20:55:11] <Begasus> POLICY ERROR: Invalid top-level package entry "share"
[20:55:30] <Begasus> this one is giving me some pain also :/
[21:05:16] <postmen> our professors complain about the codin' skills of their students.
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[21:10:30] <IIsi50MHz> Not just when the students are new to the uni?
[21:12:28] <Begasus> https://www.flickr.com/photos/begasus/28309572745/
[21:12:49] <Begasus> well ... it's working .. but still some work to do, of for now :)
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[21:18:32] <postmen> IIsi50MHz, no, from birth till graduation.
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[21:20:24] <IIsi50MHz> Just tell them you first learned BASIC (^:
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[21:28:48] <postmen> well, we had a short discuss today about, java, c++ or
[21:29:15] <postmen> some graphical java stuff, name i forgot.
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[21:44:17] <stargate1> java3d
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[21:55:45] <postmen> no, processing.org
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[22:33:34] <stargate1> ah processing
[22:34:42] <stargate1> IIsi50MHz: basic are good language, one of the fist and the most people open the door to development
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[22:39:53] <postmen> any other news?
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[22:41:05] <postmen> oh, uh, it requires opengl
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[23:13:17] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: korli * hrev50418 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=909876840b91+%5E57569abd14af
[23:13:18] <HAIKU-irker848> 909876840b91: Update haikuwebkit x86 package for x86_gcc2.
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[23:43:51] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2874 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/2874
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