July 10, 2016 
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July 10, 2016 [00:00:07] <Vidrep> bbl[00:00:12] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d75-156-158-178.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[00:00:39] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!vision@192.95.220.240> has joined #haiku[00:04:14] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-238-068.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[00:12:44] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[00:19:28] <ciast> raspberry zero = cost 5$[00:19:40] <ciast> arm is a good idea[00:19:52] <ciast> many users many developers[00:20:03] *** ciast <ciast!~Adium@user-164-127-142-174.play-internet.pl> has left #haiku[00:20:41] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d75-156-158-178.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[00:23:53] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@79.138.133.154.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[00:25:11] <Vidrep> Barrett, I went back to hrev50398. I'd say the result was inconclusive.[00:26:08] <Vidrep> If a debug report is of any use, I can attach it to a ticket[00:36:27] <Barrett> Vidrep, paste me the url which doesn't work[00:37:09] *** FlyingJester <FlyingJester!~Kashyyyk@2602:306:31c4:2820::3e9> has joined #haiku[00:38:54] <Vidrep> http://s5.deb1.scdn.smcloud.net/t041-1.mp3[00:39:25] <Vidrep> I have made a playlist of quite a few that do work more often than not[00:40:05] <Vidrep> However, there are ones like the one I pasted that cause a out of memory error and/or crash[00:41:55] <Barrett> ok I will look[00:44:27] <Vidrep> Here is one that works 100% of the time for me :) - http://wr-lesclassiquesdeclassic.ice.rtbf.be/wr-lesclassiquesdeclassic-128.mp3[00:50:06] <Barrett> you should test them with playfile too[00:50:23] <Barrett> generally it's more reliable[00:50:35] <Barrett> because doesn't do strange things[00:53:55] <Vidrep> Barrett, so how is using another app going to make streaming in MediaPlayer better?[00:54:10] <postmen> ^^[00:54:32] <postmen> Vidrep: have u tried linux yet? ;-p[00:55:11] *** postmen is now known as postmen|afk[00:56:24] <Vidrep> Just liike I use Web+and report bugs so that it can be improved. Using another browser doesn't help accomplish that goal.[00:58:06] <Vidrep> postmen, I haven't used it recently.[01:00:15] *** postmen|afk <postmen|afk!~tonyc@p5B1511C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:02:55] <Barrett> Vidrep, because you don't know how it works[01:03:01] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:14:29] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~pseudomin@68-119-2-215.dhcp.unas.wa.charter.com> has joined #haiku[01:16:34] <Vidrep> I hope I'm misunderstanding what was said[01:22:00] <Barrett> Vidrep, tests are used to test[01:22:19] <Barrett> comparative test is needed[01:22:31] <Barrett> every app use the API in a different way[01:27:14] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[01:29:41] <Vidrep> I tries each of the URL's using playfile[01:29:45] <Vidrep> tried[01:30:08] <Vidrep> The same files that play in MP also play with playfile[01:30:36] <Vidrep> The same URL's that crash MP also will not play with playfile[01:31:42] <Vidrep> Maybe bad URL's? I suppose I could try on another platform (Windows) to see if they are still valid[01:33:00] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:33:33] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[01:38:15] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[01:52:22] <Barrett> no there's a bug[01:52:34] <Barrett> Vidrep, it worked in the other hrev?[01:54:39] <Vidrep> Some of them were working yesterday. That's why I copied the URL's to a playlist.[01:55:54] <Vidrep> I'd feel more confident in testing on a fresh install of hrev50398[01:56:05] <Barrett> no need to do that[01:56:16] <Vidrep> I can put it on a spare partition and try each URL again[01:56:30] <Barrett> well I will look by myself[01:57:12] <Vidrep> I sourced all the URL's from this webpage: http://www.listenlive.eu/rock.html[01:57:51] <Vidrep> Quite a few work fine on hrev50400[01:58:51] <Vidrep> I don't want to send you on a wild goose chase[02:10:06] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@219.89.220.160> has joined #haiku[02:13:22] <Barrett> before all I think I need some kind of buffering[02:14:03] <Barrett> and the position evaluation algorithm should use this value to take other decisions[02:15:27] <Vidrep> You're the expert :) I'm just here to provide feedback - good or bad[02:17:10] <Vidrep> Sometimes playing around will lead to unexpected end results[02:21:36] <Vidrep> Barrett, what kind of energy drink keeps you coding until 2 or 3AM?[02:22:18] <Vidrep> I'm up every day at 6AM and I'm totally beat by 10 or 11PM[02:22:51] <Barrett> I eat a lot of fruit[02:23:33] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~pseudomin@68-119-2-215.dhcp.unas.wa.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: pseudomind)[02:26:45] <Barrett> especially now that it's summer there are wonderful fruits[02:27:24] <Barrett> anyway time to go[02:27:32] <IIsi50MHz> take care, Barrett[02:28:13] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:30:25] <Vidrep> Same here, goodnight Barrett[02:30:46] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-120-150.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[02:37:34] *** Barrett <Barrett!~da@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:42:38] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d75-156-158-178.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[02:47:35] *** FlyingJester <FlyingJester!~Kashyyyk@2602:306:31c4:2820::3e9> has left #haiku[02:47:56] *** Sue <Sue!~sue@unaffiliated/sue> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[02:50:39] *** FlyingJester <FlyingJester!~Kashyyyk@2602:306:31c4:2820::3e9> has joined #haiku[03:35:41] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[03:50:02] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:05:06] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[04:09:35] *** n-exo <n-exo!~chatzilla@94.197.121.140.threembb.co.uk> has joined #haiku[04:21:00] *** happy-dude <happy-dude!uid62780@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugzzjcvondxlttln> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[04:30:16] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:30:48] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[04:35:37] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:54:16] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[05:08:50] *** n-exo_ <n-exo_!~chatzilla@host86-140-14-106.range86-140.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[05:11:12] *** n-exo <n-exo!~chatzilla@94.197.121.140.threembb.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:11:15] *** n-exo_ is now known as n-exo[05:27:25] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9c5ba.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[05:27:48] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!vision@192.95.220.240> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[05:29:26] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9c2fc.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[05:40:13] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:42:14] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df59:d200:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:43:07] <kallisti5> fyi... works great https://github.com/kallisti5/synergy-haiku[05:43:35] <kallisti5> :-D Pretty much essential for my workspace. I can run Linux as my primary desktop and have my other system a machine running Haiku[05:47:31] <IIsi50MHz> O, really?[05:47:52] <kallisti5> the awesome jessicah did a lot of the early work[05:47:55] <IIsi50MHz> I haven't tried synergy in years because it used to be so unreliable and a pain to set up.[05:48:00] <kallisti5> i've just maintained and polished[05:48:09] <IIsi50MHz> And that was on Windows.[05:48:27] <kallisti5> it's pretty easy now... the haiku client has a few quirks, but nothing too annoying[05:48:39] <kallisti5> every once and a while I find myself mashing alt[05:48:59] <IIsi50MHz> I've really enjoyed ShareMouse, which is closed source and only for Win/Mac.[05:49:27] <IIsi50MHz> Start two or more clients, do zero configuring, slide the mouse on one in the direction of the next one...[05:49:34] <IIsi50MHz> It figures out what you meant.[05:50:23] <kallisti5> lol Win / Mac two platforms I don't have to worry about @ home[05:50:24] <kallisti5> :P[05:50:27] <kallisti5> or work[05:50:59] <IIsi50MHz> I started using ShareMouse at a previous job, where I often had two or four machines next to each other, all Win7 by mandate.[05:51:34] <IIsi50MHz> Then I started using it at home because Synergy was about as reliable and calming as Windows 3.1.[05:52:04] <IIsi50MHz> But I really should try Synergy again. It's been years.[05:52:08] <jessicah> I've never had issues with synergy before[05:52:14] <kallisti5> me neither :-)[06:04:00] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[06:04:21] <Begasus> morning[06:07:18] <jessicah> hihi Begasus[06:08:29] <Begasus> hi jessicah[06:12:10] <Begasus> If anyone is at the Texas airport today ... say Hi to our dogs Itsu and Ninaq (heading over today) :)[06:21:03] <pecan> Alright so Haiku nightly works in virtualbox on my home computer and not on my work one.[06:21:14] <kallisti5> Begasus: there are a lot of Texas airports :-)[06:21:17] <pecan> I must've severely messed something up over there.[06:22:03] <kallisti5> pecan: no clue.. sounds suspect. Is VT working on both systems? Same installation steps?[06:22:20] <pecan> I'll check it out on monday when I'm at work.[06:22:21] <kallisti5> maybe check the md5sum of the installation media on each system to ensure they are correct[06:22:30] <pecan> But in all likelihood it's unrelated to Haiku.[06:22:47] <kallisti5> keep us posted if you find otherwise :-)[06:22:54] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~pseudomin@68-119-2-215.dhcp.unas.wa.charter.com> has joined #haiku[06:23:52] <pecan> Heh, it's come quite far since last I tried. HaikuDepot in particular.[06:27:52] <Begasus> kallisti5 didn't know that ;)[06:29:10] <kallisti5> Begasus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_in_Texas :-)[06:29:48] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~LLP@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[06:30:20] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has joined #haiku[06:30:23] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~LLP@181.41.210.237> has joined #haiku[06:30:23] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~LLP@181.41.210.237> has quit IRC (Changing host)[06:30:23] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~LLP@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[06:33:02] <IIsi50MHz> Texas: Big(TM)[06:33:54] <Begasus> A bit bigger then Belgium ;)[06:35:40] <Begasus> whoot! kallisti5 °_O[06:35:50] <kallisti5> http://mapfight.appspot.com/be-vs-texas/belgium-texas-size-comparison[06:35:51] <kallisti5> heh[06:35:56] <kallisti5> more than a bit :P[06:36:01] <pecan> Nearly everything is bigger than belgium….[06:36:05] <IIsi50MHz> They're the only U.S. state with the right to leave the union.[06:36:13] <kallisti5> Yeeehaw![06:36:26] <pecan> do they have the right to leave or just the right to split themselves into multiple states?[06:36:40] <kallisti5> we can leave the union at any time :-)[06:36:50] <IIsi50MHz> Leave.[06:36:53] * kallisti5 dances around and shoots his pistolas in the air[06:36:54] <Begasus> rofl[06:37:04] <kallisti5> lol.. but then who would protect us?[06:37:11] <pecan> …I don't think you need it.[06:37:28] <kallisti5> we are open carry currently[06:37:29] <pecan> I'd be more worried about _us_[06:37:41] <kallisti5> but we don't have a great nuclear missle defence :-)[06:37:54] <pecan> but we'd lose half the ammunition in the country :p[06:37:56] * pecan ducks[06:37:59] <kallisti5> lol[06:38:05] <Begasus> :D[06:38:05] <IIsi50MHz> Texas is big enough to force weird textbooks on the rest of the nation. Just keep doing that until the rest of the country is dependant![06:38:19] * kallisti5 forms a proud tear[06:38:40] <kallisti5> actually we want to move.. texas is too damn hot + humid[06:39:47] <IIsi50MHz> So, where's Texas moving next? O, invalid handle.[06:39:52] <Begasus> we haven't seen the sun to much this year :)[06:39:53] <kallisti5> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S92fTz_-kQE good video :-)[06:41:50] <IIsi50MHz> The idea of Texit long precedes Brexit.[06:42:35] * pecan is more surprised that Belgium has _ever_ seen the sun[06:42:54] <Begasus> well ... the occasional days* :P[06:43:39] <pecan> Pretty sure it's always cloudy and ~7°C there. ALWAYS. Europe better live up to my stereotypes, got it?[06:44:13] <Begasus> lol[06:44:26] <Begasus> wouldn't be good for the heating bill :P[06:44:33] <kallisti5> http://mapfight.appspot.com/gb-vs-texas/united-kingdom-texas-size-comparison[06:44:36] <kallisti5> flex[06:44:46] <kallisti5> ~7C sounds nice[06:44:48] <IIsi50MHz> Euro stereotypes? Satwcomic.[06:45:40] <IIsi50MHz> I like how Map Fight ignored Northern Ireland.[06:45:52] <IIsi50MHz> Stolen land, and all that.[06:47:08] <kallisti5> http://mapfight.appspot.com/us-vs-ru/united-states-russia-size-comparison[06:47:09] <kallisti5> awww[06:47:16] * kallisti5 shrinks away[06:47:43] <Begasus> ;)[06:48:42] <IIsi50MHz> http://mapfight.appspot.com/jp-vs-fi/japan-finland-size-comparison[06:48:58] <Begasus> http://mapfight.appspot.com/lu-vs-texas/luxembourg-texas-size-comparison[06:49:07] <IIsi50MHz> They look so intimate. They have very cheap flights, too.[06:49:13] <Begasus> see ... we are not the smallest ;)[06:49:14] <kallisti5> lol[06:49:16] <IIsi50MHz> japan/finland[06:49:36] <pecan> and both languages are really hard to learn for english speakers![06:49:46] <IIsi50MHz> Bah, Japanese is easy.[06:49:49] <pecan> has anyone ever seen japan and finland at a party together? I'm getting suspicious.[06:49:55] <IIsi50MHz> Easier than Spanish, for me.[06:50:19] <pecan> eh, actually I quite like what little I know of Japanese, but it has a reputation for being hard.[06:50:31] <pecan> then again, I also like reverse-polish notation.[06:50:33] <IIsi50MHz> Pecan, that sounds exactly like something that might be said in SATW comic.[06:50:57] <IIsi50MHz> You should submit it as a suggestion![06:53:09] <pecan> well, belgium is a solid 1000x as big as Macau. Not bad.[06:53:42] <pecan> Ignoring the fact that Macau is 31km², anyway.[06:59:52] *** n-exo <n-exo!~chatzilla@host86-140-14-106.range86-140.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:52] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:52] *** XeonSquared <XeonSquared!~ShadowKat@210.1.213.55> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:52] *** dlesage <dlesage!dlesage@nat/redhat/x-hroaszhbypdcxgca> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:54] *** HAIKU-Buildbot <HAIKU-Buildbot!~HAIKU-Bui@baron.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:54] *** trn <trn!jhj@trnsz.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:54] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~pseudomin@68-119-2-215.dhcp.unas.wa.charter.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:54] *** FlyingJester <FlyingJester!~Kashyyyk@2602:306:31c4:2820::3e9> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** Tsesarevich <Tsesarevich!sid83162@fluxbuntu/founder/joejaxx> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** Kargaroc <Kargaroc!~Kargaroc@2602:30a:2c3a:6810:6a05:caff:fe14:624f> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:e1e8:bd4c:2922:766c:2b0d> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@77.41.25.77> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** GeekShadow <GeekShadow!~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@unaffiliated/cenbe> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** Qatz <Qatz!~DB@2601:187:8400:5::427> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** cdesai <cdesai!~cd@cyanogenmod/maintainer/cdesai> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** coup_de_shitlord <coup_de_shitlord!~coup_de_s@freebsd/user/stqism> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** CandidC <CandidC!~Candid@2401:1400:1:1201:0:1:2f9d:ad30> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** pebble` <pebble`!~pebble@unaffiliated/espiral> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** stux|work <stux|work!~stux@37.48.121.205> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** JohnX <JohnX!john@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe50:3ac4> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[06:59:56] *** Not-c51b <Not-c51b!~notifico@198.199.82.216> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[07:01:16] *** stux|work <stux|work!~stux@37.48.121.205> has joined #haiku[07:10:16] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~pseudomin@68-119-2-215.dhcp.unas.wa.charter.com> has joined #haiku[07:17:41] <Begasus> I really should clean my haikuporter directories after building ....[07:18:27] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[07:26:43] *** earthnative <earthnative!~nemo@59.167.208.146> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[07:26:52] *** earthnative <earthnative!~nemo@59.167.208.146> has joined #haiku[07:34:10] *** XeonSquared <XeonSquared!~ShadowKat@210.1.213.55> has joined #haiku[07:48:00] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~pseudomin@68-119-2-215.dhcp.unas.wa.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: pseudomind)[08:44:44] *** Carl_Miller <Carl_Miller!~Carl_Mill@unaffiliated/carl-miller/x-4159925> has quit IRC (Quit: “Out of the chaos, they will run and whimper, praying for me to end their tedious anarchy. 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God: the title suits Me well.” —SHODAN, System Shock)[08:46:36] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@79.138.133.154.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[08:46:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[08:47:30] *** n-exo <n-exo!~chatzilla@host86-140-14-106.range86-140.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[08:49:43] <Begasus> of to dogschool ... cu[08:49:49] *** Begasus is now known as Begas_afk[08:52:21] *** Carl_Miller <Carl_Miller!~Carl_Mill@unaffiliated/carl-miller/x-4159925> has joined #haiku[09:01:45] *** auronandace <auronandace!~auronanda@2a02:c7d:4427:e200:4929:13b:ab97:22b4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:07:30] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@2001:678:f0:1061:3bd6:7c4:6967:dc02> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:14:18] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@2001:678:f0:1051:ca54:82e4:c0f7:2962> has joined #haiku[09:31:50] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-120-150.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[09:32:52] *** MrSunshine 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<Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df59:d200:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[14:18:45] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@219.89.220.160> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[14:44:19] <Begas_afk> hi humdinger![14:44:23] *** Begas_afk is now known as Begasus[14:44:57] <humdinger> hey Begasus[14:45:14] <humdinger> seen my comment on the crimson app sig?[14:46:25] <Begasus> yep, checking atm[14:46:47] <humdinger> ok. cool.[14:46:57] <humdinger> or rather hot...[14:47:02] <Begasus> before I got a mismatch when launching from Terminal, that's why I changed it (before committing)[14:47:07] <Begasus> right :)[14:47:10] <humdinger> I think I have to get out into the wind...[14:47:29] <Begasus> no shade in our yard anymore[14:47:51] <humdinger> yeah. it was really nice in the morning.[14:48:03] <humdinger> tomorrow's going to be worse...[14:48:41] <Begasus> x-vnd.CrimsonFields[14:48:50] <Begasus> hmm sec that wasn't right ;)[14:48:59] <Begasus> Signature in rsrc doesn't match constructor arg. (application/x-SDL-executable, application/x-vnd.CrimsonFields)[14:50:08] <humdinger> doesn't it all come from the rdef?[14:50:10] <Begasus> tomorrow it will be less warm here ;) (but then again, less sunshine)[14:50:45] <Begasus> yes humdinger[14:50:47] <humdinger> we're lucky we don't have to cycle 150km every day...[14:50:54] <Begasus> +1[14:51:21] <humdinger> maybe there are some residues from previous bulds?[14:51:40] <Begasus> I think there was a comment about it also with alex[14:51:59] <Begasus> nah, previous build didn't gave me the mismatch[14:53:39] <Begasus> Jerome was also a bit to fast with one of the comments ;)[14:53:55] <Begasus> ps humdinger ...[14:54:06] * Begasus pokes[14:55:01] <Begasus> in the generic_lib file in haikuporter there is a double mention for "haiku${secondaryArchSuffix}_devel", is that correct?[14:55:52] <humdinger> no idea. I'll compare to other recipes...[14:56:18] <Begasus> I have been looking into some recipes, didn't found a double mention there yet[14:56:53] <Begasus> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/679[14:57:58] <humdinger> I guess we can trust korli's opinion here.[14:58:04] <humdinger> I'll remove it then.[14:58:22] <Begasus> at the least it's a bit confusing (if there is no need for it) :)[14:59:01] <humdinger> yep. though I did find a few recipes with that duplication...[14:59:13] <Begasus> yes?[15:01:07] <humdinger> just saying. it probbaly doesn't hurt, but we can remove it.[15:01:33] <Not-c51b> [haikuporter] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vKG2P[15:01:34] <Not-c51b> [haikuporter] humdingerb 020db9d - Change to generic_lib-1.2.3.recipe template[15:01:39] <humdinger> there. done.[15:01:49] <humdinger> I get some ice cream or something... :)[15:01:59] <Begasus> ;) enjoy[15:02:12] <humdinger> see you when it's cooler. :)[15:02:14] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x4d04d8e2.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[15:02:47] <Begasus> in a few days then ;)[15:07:33] <stargater> so cleaning windows[15:07:43] <stargater> a real windows (not the os)[15:08:03] <stargater> a nice first holyday :-)[15:10:10] <Begasus> viel spass stargater ;)[15:10:31] <stargater> ich bin fertig :-) i am finish[15:10:35] <Begasus> ;)[15:10:54] <Begasus> even the dogs won't go outside now, they prefer the cool temp in the house :)[15:10:56] <stargater> i can see the sun and the sky, clounds and birds[15:11:09] <Begasus> ;)[15:11:13] <stargater> :)[15:11:23] <stargater> how let the dogs out[15:11:29] <stargater> huhu[15:11:40] <Begasus> door is open :P[15:12:10] <stargater> portugal vs france = 2:1[15:12:22] <Begasus> 2:4[15:12:36] <stargater> ho no , i hope the france dont win[15:12:54] <Begasus> they know how to close the 'backdoor' ;)[15:13:22] <Begasus> and so far Portugal didn't show much[15:13:28] <stargater> ronaldo vs griezmann[15:13:33] <Begasus> yep :)[15:13:43] <stargater> we will see :-)[15:14:06] <Begasus> As a German you should be on the favor of Griesman :P[15:14:29] <stargater> so i go out side, playing mini-golf[15:14:37] <stargater> with may sohn[15:14:45] <Begasus> cu later, enjoy :)[15:16:23] <stargater> ahh, children, so creasy we us. bey[15:16:36] <Begasus> lol[15:16:51] <Begasus> generations :P[15:19:31] *** Mawi <Mawi!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:42:24] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:42:59] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[15:43:58] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:e1e8:bca8:f157:2fc7:f91b> has joined #haiku[15:45:45] *** DingoSaar <DingoSaar!~hagen@pD9E09A27.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[15:47:51] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[15:53:25] <kallisti5> PulkoMandy: On a plus side, this laptop I got doesn't work[15:53:30] <kallisti5> (intel_extreme)[15:54:06] <PulkoMandy> ok, tried with my patch?[15:54:33] <PulkoMandy> Begasus: the mismatched signature is ok for SDL apps, because all apps using SDL will always use the same signature. Something we need to fix in the SDL port[15:54:56] <kallisti5> not yet :-) I plan on starting there though. Currently have a 2 year old running around saying penguin every 2 seconds looking for parts of a stacking penguin cup set.[15:55:02] <PulkoMandy> it doesn't matter much as running SDL apps by signature is usually not required (basically you can't make them the default app for some file type)[15:55:36] <kallisti5> PulkoMandy: could you re-send the link to the patch? I wiped my desktop to install haiku and had the url + patch there :-([15:55:58] <PulkoMandy> http://pulkomandy.tk/drop/0001-Fix-SandyBridge-support.patch[15:56:03] <kallisti5> danke[15:56:08] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:e1e8:bca8:f157:2fc7:f91b> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:56:27] <Begasus> Ok, thanks PulkoMandy, I'll change it in a sec then :)[15:57:54] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:e1e8:bca8:f157:2fc7:f91b> has joined #haiku[15:59:59] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #688: crimson, new recipe for CrimsonFields - https://git.io/vKs2R[16:00:08] <Begasus> that should do it ;)[16:03:47] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:e1e8:bca8:f157:2fc7:f91b> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:04:11] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@c-107-4-88-107.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[16:04:14] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #679: libunistring, cleaned out layout according to the generic file, added… - https://git.io/vKOp3[16:04:25] <Begasus> so upped the pr there also[16:12:28] *** aym <aym!~aym@2a02:17d0:66:f900:7477:646e:d0ac:a6bf> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:13:10] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@c-107-4-88-107.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:14:33] *** aym <aym!~aym@2a02:17d0:66:f900:20de:ffa2:749b:a20> has joined #haiku[16:20:40] *** stpere <stpere!~stpere@c75.152.29-35.clta.globetrotter.net> has joined #haiku[16:21:38] *** BitPuffin|osx <BitPuffin|osx!~isak@237.135.6.51.dyn.plus.net> has joined #haiku[16:37:29] <postmen> PulkoMandy: what's the patch supposed to fix?[16:41:51] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df59:d200:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:43:16] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:e1e8:2950:15d5:46ea:3fd6> has joined #haiku[16:43:33] <PulkoMandy> postmen: the problem is, I have no idea :/ i just reverted some things to how they were done before kallisti5 changes to the driver, until I got native resolution back on my machine[16:44:03] <PulkoMandy> basically it reintroduces some bugs that happen to make things work[16:55:22] <postmen> sounds like me, when programmin' ^^[17:14:39] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50402 [8 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1c6c51315e6a+%5Eeff2d235ba89[17:14:40] <HAIKU-irker848> 07d59ab7dbc6: PictureIterator.h: fix header guard spelling[17:14:41] <HAIKU-irker848> e019775491cc: TrackerString.cpp: fix comparison between pointer and integer[17:14:42] <HAIKU-irker848> dbb1fa50c64d: DecorManager.cpp: fix comparison between pointer and integer[17:14:43] <HAIKU-irker848> 51bfb0569392: pcl6: Fix mismatching allocation and deallocation[17:14:44] <HAIKU-irker848> 46b40482a68d: block_cache.cpp: fix gcc warnings[17:14:45] <HAIKU-irker848> 12e39ec56072: JobSetupWindow.cpp: fix clang warning[17:14:46] <HAIKU-irker848> 163f9ddfef1b: PictureIterator.h: fix header guard spelling[17:14:47] <HAIKU-irker848> 1c6c51315e6a: PackageActionHandler.h: fix header guard spelling[17:20:10] *** stpere <stpere!~stpere@c75.152.29-35.clta.globetrotter.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:21:57] *** stpere <stpere!~stpere@c75.152.29-35.clta.globetrotter.net> has joined #haiku[17:22:13] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2942 of haiku-master-arm is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-arm/builds/2942[17:23:25] <Begasus> keep bumping into this when trying to build freeciv ... http://pastebin.com/1ZUENPmg[17:25:20] <PulkoMandy> mh, something is still using broken .la files[17:26:21] <Begasus> yeah looks like it, it should have passed the GCI (or GSoC) when it was finished, but never got it to build :/[17:26:53] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has joined #haiku[17:29:28] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x4d04d8e2.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined 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completely from scratch[17:34:51] <Begasus> not remove the folder but clean it with haikuporter[17:35:11] <Begasus> ok, well I changed it as you mentioned, should be ok then :)[17:35:48] <Begasus> PulkoMandy also mentioned that there could be mismatches with SDL apps[17:37:17] <humdinger> have you tried the the built app?[17:37:24] <humdinger> It crashes here.[17:37:30] <humdinger> get_home_dir(void) + 0x7f (/sources/crimson-0.5.3/src/cf/../common/fileio.cpp:406)[17:37:34] <humdinger> segfault[17:37:46] <Begasus> built app?[17:38:02] <humdinger> crimsonfields[17:38:48] <Begasus> ah yes, even checked if I installed it in ~/config/packages or with HaikuDepot, works fine here[17:39:17] <Begasus> wouldn't create a PR if I wasn't sure it atleast had some life in it ;)[17:39:50] <Begasus> aside from atanks, but I'm guessing it's a SDL2/GL thing there[17:40:25] <humdinger> hmm... works if I start crimson where it's built in the "work" folder. doesn't from the installed package.[17:40:48] <Begasus> do you install it with HD?[17:40:55] <humdinger> yes.[17:41:03] <Begasus> there should be an item in the Deskbar for it then[17:41:23] <Begasus> cleaning freeciv atm so can't check[17:41:27] <humdinger> ah.[17:41:41] <humdinger> it only doesn't work when started with QuickLaunch.[17:41:51] <Begasus> tsss :P[17:41:56] <humdinger> seems to be a Haiku bug...[17:42:11] <Begasus> or a QuickLaunch bug ;)[17:42:20] <Begasus> (never used it)[17:42:34] <humdinger> shouldn't be. it just Launch() an app.[17:42:55] <humdinger> apparently some system environment variables aren't set correctly (?)[17:43:27] <Begasus> probably, if links in the Deskbar represent the ones in QuickLaunch they should match?[17:44:17] <Begasus> did you try it with other things that have apps in a subfolder in $appsDir?[17:44:30] <humdinger> QL launches by ref. Deskbar has symlinks in a folder.[17:44:45] <humdinger> yes. no problems normally.[17:45:07] <Begasus> ok, as I said, never used it, so not sure what could cause it ... :/[17:45:47] <humdinger> Pe is nother such candidate...[17:45:53] <humdinger> extremely annoying.[17:46:13] * Begasus refrains to Deskbar ;)[17:46:29] <humdinger> QL is much... er... quicker )[17:46:38] <Begasus> it's annoying enough for Ubuntu :P[17:47:46] <humdinger> Pfft... :P[17:50:06] <humdinger> Anyway... why do you do "ln -r -s $appsDir/Crimson/bin/bi2cf $binDir/bi2cf" instead of moving it all to $binDir?[17:50:50] <Begasus> because CrimsonFields should not be in $binDir?[17:51:40] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iqapbsmwbykbwdgt> has joined #haiku[17:51:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[17:51:45] <humdinger> The main app is still in $appsDir. (not sure what those other commands in bin do)[17:51:50] <Begasus> and aside from that ... there have been many discussions on wether to set thing with runConfigure or as supposed *appsDir ... I'm still in favor of $appsDir[17:51:57] <Begasus> hi waddlesplash[17:52:36] <humdinger> IMO if you create a link in $binDr you could just as well but the commands there directly.[17:52:40] <Begasus> for fizmo for instance I used runConfigure (as it is an app started from Terminal)[17:53:15] <waddlesplash> hi. a bit busy atm, but I'll be available in a few hrs[17:53:19] <Begasus> I like to keep things together (not spread out in the system-even if it's in it's own container)[17:54:19] <Begasus> and as there is no real guideline or people with different ideas I stick to this one for the moment :)[17:54:30] <humdinger> but what's the difference of having symlinks pointing from $binDir and having the executable appearing there directl?[17:54:36] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@79.138.134.30.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[17:54:52] <humdinger> A big failure IMO.[17:55:04] <Begasus> +1[17:55:29] <humdinger> As you know, our thread discussing that went DOA.[17:55:34] <Begasus> the difference? an app should be contained in $appsDir a command in $binDir[17:55:41] <Begasus> yep :)[17:56:17] <Begasus> as crimson has both I choose $appsDir as a main choice[17:56:21] <humdinger> heh. but it isn't you even put suff in the obscure "man" :)[17:56:49] <Begasus> the commands have to be launched from Terminal[17:56:58] <Begasus> lol[17:57:05] <Begasus> I thought it didn't belong there :P[18:00:04] <Begasus> manpages should be kept together ...[18:01:22] <humdinger> yes. Just saying, you spread some files around anyway, so having executables in $binDir would just as self-containing as having symlinks there.[18:01:27] <Begasus> although ... I think haikuporter should also set the $manDir for this example to "one" direction, if you drop the hpkg file in ~/config/packages it installs it also there ... that doesn't work ...[18:02:10] <Begasus> well yes, I could revert it to runConfigure and symlink the 2 files in $appsDir[18:02:35] <humdinger> really? I'd expect man pages to work in the home-hierarchy just as well as under system...[18:02:43] <Begasus> nope[18:02:55] <Begasus> just as $binDir .. doesn't always work[18:04:10] <humdinger> hmm. works here.[18:04:27] <humdinger> "man comet" shows also when installed in "hom"e[18:05:21] <Begasus> ok ... now it seems to work also here[18:06:03] <Begasus> well you see that's why using $manDir worked ;)[18:06:06] * Begasus ducks[18:06:30] <Begasus> if it was in $appsDir it didn't :)[18:06:52] <humdinger> sure. putting man pages into $manDir is the correct way.[18:07:01] <Begasus> anyway, if there would be a general consitency it would make it easier :)[18:07:33] <humdinger> but as nobody is interested besides us... :)[18:08:10] <Begasus> I don't wont to clutter my system folder with packages that shouldn't belong there (I test them now, but prefer to work in the home directions)[18:09:05] <PulkoMandy> I agree with making things self-contained when possible, but I also think it isn't worth the effort when runConfigure just works[18:09:06] <Begasus> I've seen it before when I deleted a package in my system folder that packages where deleted too and I had to re-install the lot)[18:10:02] <Begasus> for scummvm runConfigure doesn't work PulkoMandy .. but it's still spread out as many suggested when I was creating the recipe at that time ...[18:11:10] <Begasus> MHO is that apps should reside in $appsDir, commands should be in $binDir[18:12:04] <PulkoMandy> manpages in $manDir otherwise they don't work, apps I don't care since I add $appsDir to my $PATH anyway :)[18:12:04] <humdinger> I agree. For native apps it's easy. Ports are often easier to use the "linuxy" hierarchies.[18:12:40] <Begasus> we don't use /usr humdinger ;)[18:12:42] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: but many apps come in their own subfolder in $appsDir :)[18:13:00] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: but that's why you use QuickLaunch of course.[18:13:02] <humdinger> :)[18:13:10] <Begasus> shouldn't be a problem since you link them in Deskbar?[18:13:17] <humdinger> if it works, which it doesn't for crimson for example.[18:13:33] <humdinger> Begasus: starting from deskbar works.[18:13:44] <Begasus> +1[18:13:45] <Begasus> ;)[18:14:06] <humdinger> crimson relies on the env "HOME", which for some reason isn't set when an app is Launch()ed.[18:14:07] <Begasus> even from a Terminal (in the folder) or double click ;)[18:14:26] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: I don't so much agree witn native apps having a thousand files in a folder in $appsDir[18:14:35] <PulkoMandy> should be a single binary with everything as resources[18:14:51] <PulkoMandy> (and I don't use QL, I'm more of an LnLauncher guy)[18:15:44] <humdinger> Searching an icon takes me longer that OPT+Space and entering two letters. CursorKey, Return, Bang! :)[18:15:53] <Begasus> humdinger ... atleast we're getting more respons here then on the ML ;)[18:15:56] <Begasus> atm*[18:16:36] <Begasus> but still no straight answer :/[18:16:57] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: well, my LnLauncher has only 6 "most used" apps and they are hardwired in my muscle memory now[18:16:58] <humdinger> Still there are as many opinions as there are people discussing it.[18:17:17] <Begasus> right humdinger :)[18:17:25] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: aha, but what if you need a less often used app/pref? :)[18:17:46] <Begasus> rightclick -- open with --> ;)[18:18:03] <humdinger> you don't get to the Time prefs like that. :)[18:18:27] <Begasus> well you should only have to deal with that once? ;)[18:18:42] <humdinger> just an example.[18:19:17] *** BitPuffin|osx <BitPuffin|osx!~isak@237.135.6.51.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:19:59] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: I do this from Terminal as I have appsDir in my path[18:20:39] <Begasus> probably doesn't work if apps reside in a subfolder then PulkoMandy?[18:20:41] <humdinger> You are just stubborn. :P :))[18:20:47] <Begasus> hehe[18:21:05] <humdinger> also, you don't get any of the nice icons. :)[18:21:28] <Begasus> crimson hasn't got one yet ;)[18:22:31] <humdinger> Create one then :) I'm not that attracted to the game...[18:22:41] <Begasus> :D[18:22:54] <humdinger> time for dinner![18:22:56] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d75-156-158-178.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[18:23:03] *** humdinger is now known as humdinner[18:23:24] <Begasus> I was looking into the new release for lbreakout2 yesterday[18:23:31] <Begasus> enjoy :)[18:24:16] <Begasus> found that most of the stuff in the patch file didn't really change much to the HOME enviroment ...[18:28:16] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[18:35:48] *** aym <aym!~aym@2a02:17d0:66:f900:20de:ffa2:749b:a20> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:35:58] *** aym <aym!~aym@2a02:17d0:66:f900:20de:ffa2:749b:a20> has joined #haiku[18:51:23] *** miqlas-H <miqlas-H!~vision@HSI-KBW-109-193-200-161.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #haiku[18:53:25] <miqlas-H> I got mutt compiled on Haiku, it was able to login to my gmail account trough IMAP, it can download and show the emails, but it cannot send, because Gmail requires SASL support for SMTP, and we have no SASL. Tried to port cyrus-sasl, but i wasn't too sucessful :([18:57:07] *** stpere <stpere!~stpere@c75.152.29-35.clta.globetrotter.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:57:37] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:58:29] *** [JJ]Albert <[JJ]Albert!~Albert@2602:306:3477:b800:816c:4e3d:ecfa:61f6> has joined #haiku[18:59:12] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has joined #haiku[19:02:57] <Vidrep> Hi humdinger[19:06:45] *** humdinner is now known as humdinger[19:06:50] <humdinger> Hi Vidrep![19:07:01] <humdinger> Begasus: there's a new lbreakout2 release?[19:08:02] <Vidrep> I haven't seen you for a few days. Busy with real life, I guess?[19:08:58] <humdinger> nope. weather was to nice to sit in fron tof the machine. :)[19:10:16] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:e1e8:2950:15d5:46ea:3fd6> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:10:50] <Vidrep> That's the best reason of all[19:12:08] <humdinger> it's getting a bit too hot for my taste. unfortunately it's becoming even more uncomfortable inside...[19:12:19] <humdinger> we#ll have a cool down int he middle of the week though.[19:12:42] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:e1e8:2950:15d5:46ea:3fd6> has joined #haiku[19:13:20] <Vidrep> We've been getting a lot of thunderstorms the past week. Four funnel clouds in four days.[19:13:48] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: barrett * hrev50403 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=be2c072556dc+%5E1c6c51315e6a[19:13:49] <HAIKU-irker848> 0162e27293a8: AdapterIO: Create seek sem only when requested[19:13:50] <HAIKU-irker848> be2c072556dc: http_streamer: Enforce safeness in constructor/thread[19:14:00] <humdinger> as in tornado?[19:14:04] <Vidrep> Yup[19:14:48] <humdinger> oh. exciting if it passes at a distance...[19:16:03] <Vidrep> http://globalnews.ca/news/2801393/alberta-hit-with-4-tornadoes-in-4-days/[19:17:10] <humdinger> interesting drawing issues under web+ :)[19:17:19] <humdinger> only the ad though.[19:17:38] <Vidrep> I'm seeing it OK with Web+[19:17:56] <humdinger> ad the ad was a bit scrambled.[19:18:03] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~pseudomin@68-119-2-215.dhcp.unas.wa.charter.com> has joined #haiku[19:18:06] <humdinger> and I couldn't skip it...[19:19:00] <Vidrep> I wonder why on your system[19:19:07] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50404 [4 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ac30c5864867+%5Ebe2c072556dc[19:19:08] <HAIKU-irker848> 863a6388b4d0: JPEG translator: fix warnings and enable Werror[19:19:09] <HAIKU-irker848> 1b29ad289e81: PNG translator: fix gcc2 complaining about setjmp clobbering variables.[19:19:10] <HAIKU-irker848> 9e72a18d0fd9: wonderbrush translator: fix warnings.[19:19:11] <HAIKU-irker848> ac30c5864867: Enable Werror for jpeg, png, wonderbrush translators.[19:19:13] <humdinger> probably depends on the ad.[19:19:20] <humdinger> you just got another one.[19:20:22] <Vidrep> I se there's bben some discussion about how to proceed with package building infrastructure[19:20:25] <Vidrep> see[19:20:46] <humdinger> yes. the cauldron is bubbling.[19:21:08] <Vidrep> I hope you guys can settle on a plan of action[19:22:09] * humdinger nods[19:23:22] <Vidrep> Some of the correspondence got a little "testy" at times. It's to be expected when there is a difference of opinion on critical issues[19:24:22] <PulkoMandy> well, we're still trying out different approaches on how things are going to work[19:24:30] <PulkoMandy> a little experiment is required there[19:24:46] <Vidrep> Is package building the last big hurdle before a release cycle is initiated?[19:25:39] <PulkoMandy> mostly yes, and probably some more work on intel_extreme driver[19:26:09] <miqlas-H> need to go[19:26:12] <miqlas-H> bye guys[19:26:18] *** miqlas-H <miqlas-H!~vision@HSI-KBW-109-193-200-161.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[19:27:05] <Vidrep> Oh yes, the Intel driver. I tried your patch last week, but it does not affect my chipset. No worries, since I'm using a desktop[19:27:13] <humdinger> the list of beta blockers is surprisingly short: https://dev.haiku-os.org/query?status=assigned&status=in-progress&status=reopened&status=new&group=status&milestone=R1%2Fbeta1[19:28:38] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~pseudomin@68-119-2-215.dhcp.unas.wa.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: pseudomind)[19:28:40] <humdinger> er... until you scroll down a bit :)[19:29:13] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~pseudomin@68-119-2-215.dhcp.unas.wa.charter.com> has joined #haiku[19:30:11] <Vidrep> That short list represents a lot of work[19:33:41] <Vidrep> I have to step out for a bit. bbl[19:33:55] <Vidrep> Keep up the good work![19:34:14] <humdinger> cu Vidrep![19:35:24] <Vidrep> I'm staying logged on because I have Barrett's streaming radio enhancement on test[19:35:49] <Vidrep> I want to see if it drops the connection or crashes after playing for a few hours[19:36:07] *** pseudomind <pseudomind!~pseudomin@68-119-2-215.dhcp.unas.wa.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: pseudomind)[19:36:12] <Vidrep> So far, so good[19:36:16] <Vidrep> Bye[19:41:33] *** earthnative <earthnative!~nemo@59.167.208.146> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:41:46] *** earthnative <earthnative!~nemo@59.167.208.146> has joined #haiku[19:47:31] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@46.136.225.153> has joined #haiku[19:52:25] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x4d04d8e2.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[19:54:05] *** [r4] <[r4]!~r4]@staticline-31-183-65-141.toya.net.pl> has joined #haiku[20:00:22] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@46.136.225.153> has quit IRC (Quit: arroyoc)[20:14:53] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df59:d200:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[20:21:08] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@unaffiliated/cenbe> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:21:47] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@cpe-184-58-196-239.wi.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[20:21:47] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@cpe-184-58-196-239.wi.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:21:47] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@unaffiliated/cenbe> has joined #haiku[20:22:59] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:33:18] *** TwoFx <TwoFx!6d5a6c38@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.90.108.56> has joined #haiku[20:35:27] *** tm <tm!~sinnlos@360.vmworld.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[20:48:27] *** wesbl <wesbl!~wesbl@95.239.200.116> has joined #haiku[20:52:02] *** TwoFx <TwoFx!6d5a6c38@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.90.108.56> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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