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[02:20:19] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #739 of haiku-nightlies-x86 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86/builds/739
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[02:29:51] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #739 of haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2/builds/739
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[06:57:46] <CandidC> Does anyone know who's working on the MediaPlayer streaming function? I just wanted to say, it crashes trying to open a .pls file
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[07:32:38] <IIsi50MHz> CandidC: Barrett is, and you might submit a bug report. (See the /topic)
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[08:22:17] <jessicah> pls isn't purported yet
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[08:51:27] <CandidC> jessicah: I thought as much, anything I could do to help?
[08:51:55] <jessicah> I don't know
[08:52:03] <jessicah> I think Barrett might plan to work on that
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[09:53:37] <linux_unix-10> Hello!
[09:54:53] <linux_unix-10> I'm having an issue with BeShare. It won't connect to the server. I'm suspecting a firewall on the network I'm using.
[09:55:15] <linux_unix-10> I can't even use Vision IRC, this is from webchat.
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[10:01:02] <linux_unix-10> I'm trying to download ThinkFree Office hpkgs, but I can't find web downloads. Is there anywhere else I could get them (besides BeShare, because that seems to be firewalled off).
[10:01:09] <linux_unix-10> ?
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[13:01:11] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #675: xerces-c: bump to 3.1.4, drop libxerces-c.la. - https://git.io/vKfv6
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[13:04:21] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson closed pull request #675: xerces-c: bump to 3.1.4, drop libxerces-c.la. - https://git.io/vKfv6
[13:04:23] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/vKTtN
[13:04:24] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson cd4c278 - xerces-c: bump to 3.1.4, drop libxerces-c.la. (#675)
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[13:22:58] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #671: libmatroska: fix REQUIRES_devel, drop libtool file, add TEST(). - https://git.io/voAVl
[13:23:14] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] fbrosson edited pull request #671: libmatroska: fix REQUIRES_devel, drop libtool file, add TEST(). - https://git.io/voAVl
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[13:45:26] <Begasus> k ... something is not right with the allegro recipe I think ...
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[13:48:47] <Begasus> when dropping the devel file in the packages folder I get a "nothing provides ..."
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[14:57:36] <Not-c51b> [haikuports] Begasus opened pull request #676: atanks, new recipe (WIP) - https://git.io/vKT8d
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[15:30:43] <stargater> works openarena on haiku?
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[15:31:58] <stargater> quake3 on haiku? huu have iam missing anythink -> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/games-action/quake3/quake3-0.6.1.recipe
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[16:17:46] <Vidrep> Hi
[16:20:44] <tojoko> hi Vidrep
[16:22:12] <Vidrep> Hi tojoko
[16:27:16] <Vidrep> Hi Barrett
[16:28:46] <Barrett> hi
[16:29:00] <Barrett> didn't realize in the first place it was an x86_64 issue
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[16:33:35] <Begasus> hi Barrett, sorry for the "thing" with moleinvasion ;)
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[16:35:09] <Barrett> no problem I should've seen that :-)
[16:35:36] <Begasus> think I need to clean up some stuff in my home/config/packages ... need to check if there are packages already available for the things I have there :)
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[16:36:03] <Begasus> maybe it's something haikuporter should have picked up also Barrett when running hp -S?
[16:36:24] <Begasus> or maybe create a deppendency for it?
[16:36:52] <Barrett> I guess so, but don't know extensively the logic behind recipes
[16:37:17] <Barrett> I think it could be implicit too, without declarating it for each entry
[16:37:33] <Barrett> declaration could be done when the dependency is different
[16:37:47] <Begasus> there are some glitches that are still not sure for some also (like the lib versioning - last PR from me for smpeg2)
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[16:45:49] <Vidrep> Barrett, I'm pretty sure PulkoMandy is aware of the issues with 64 bit ffmpeg
[16:46:25] <Vidrep> If you want to have a look, you can try the two samples attached to earlier tickets
[16:51:16] <tojoko> indeed he is: https://echelog.com/logs/browse/haiku/1455490800
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[16:55:38] <Vidrep> Best to leave those ffmpeg issues to PulkoMandy when he has time, rather than have Barrett digress from his MediaKit work
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[17:01:36] <Barrett> we will see, I know what's the issue, we have to update our code to new API
[17:03:37] <Barrett> it's very hot here guys
[17:04:57] <Barrett> the pcs doesn't help in getting the house colder :-)
[17:08:15] <Begasus> we're not even get to 20°C here Barrett :)
[17:08:40] <Barrett> 32° here and it will get worse and worse in the next weeks :-)
[17:09:13] <tojoko> sound like wales vs portugal to me
[17:09:52] <Begasus> although it could be a bit warmer, I'm not looking for 32° :P
[17:11:00] <Vidrep> Barrett, what are you working on currently? I'm interested in this MediaKit work, as you know
[17:11:01] <Barrett> well with the sea we have, it's just an advantage :-D
[17:11:22] <Barrett> I've been in sardinia last year : p
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[17:12:46] <Barrett> Vidrep, text subtitles would be my goal for this week
[17:13:06] <Barrett> but only the media_kit part
[17:13:29] <Barrett> (and in theory this is the latest week of the current contract, we will see if this continue)
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[17:16:06] <Begasus> wishing all the best Barrett for this week!
[17:17:07] <Barrett> Begasus, thanks :)
[17:17:30] <Begasus> :)
[17:17:49] <Begasus> wished there was something like $homeDir also for haikuporter ;)
[17:18:21] <Barrett> can't you use the find_directory defs?
[17:18:43] <Begasus> haven't been there yet
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[17:19:27] <Begasus> iirc I looked for find_directory_settings ... but the app/game is looking in the ~/ folder I think
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[17:21:28] <Begasus> CONFIGDIR=$settingsDir does not seem to work as it can't read/load the cfg file
[17:21:42] <Vidrep> How many want to ante up to extend Barrett's contract? Since I'm working for another week, I'm willing to do a $100 donation to Haiku.
[17:21:44] <Begasus> *at make()
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[17:24:55] <Vidrep> OK, I made a $100 donation to Haiku Inc. - hopefully it gets to Barrett
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[17:28:21] <Barrett> Vidrep, thanks for support
[17:28:47] <Barrett> Begasus, it looks strange
[17:29:04] <Begasus> make DATADIR=$appsDir/Formido HISCOREDIR=$settingsDir \
[17:29:04] <Begasus> CONFIGDIR=$settingsDir DEFCONFIGDIR=$settingsDir $jobArgs
[17:29:15] <Begasus> that's the total line Barrett
[17:30:21] <Begasus> but don't get side destracted ;)
[17:32:45] <Barrett> right :-)
[17:32:48] <Vidrep> Begasus, digressions are a 50/50 thing. Good example was PulkoMandy's contract to finish Web+
[17:33:55] <Vidrep> Lots of fixes were made to many parts of Haiku, that might not have got done otherwise
[17:34:11] <Begasus> +1
[17:34:58] <Vidrep> But, Web+ was not as polished as it might have been had PukoMandy stayed the course
[17:36:41] <Begasus> getting into problems while tryinng to do some thing and hitting a problem while at it is a good course to try to fix the other stuff... :)
[17:36:49] <Begasus> trying*
[17:39:01] <Vidrep> That's the nature of this project at the moment - not enough devs to each have their own area of concern.
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[17:42:17] <Begasus> you're probably right there, it has been a ongoing experience, but a strong community that is still holding on together imho :)
[17:45:38] <Begasus> bbl ... 9 dogs need to go out ;)
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[18:34:40] <PulkoMandy> hi!
[18:35:02] <PulkoMandy> Vidrep: a small precision, I had to fix some issues on Haiku side otherwise, Web+ could not have worked
[18:35:15] <PulkoMandy> (or possibly I would have needed to port it to Linux or something, but…)
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[18:47:38] <Vidrep> Hi PulkoMandy
[18:52:45] <Vidrep> In the time since that contract ended, many of the issues with Web+ were resolved. Some of course remain, and others have cropped up
[18:54:58] <Vidrep> Whatever the digression, the end result was that Haiku made significant progress under your contract.
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[20:03:44] <tojoko> so silent
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[20:04:53] <IIsi50MHz> ..(z.z),
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[20:13:19] <tojoko> hi miqlas-H! :)
[20:13:29] <miqlas-H> Hi tojoko!
[20:13:34] <miqlas-H> How doing?
[20:14:24] <HAIKU-irker848> haiku.master: axeld * hrev50389 [4 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7dc0c7b52db2+%5E9be1b5a16f5b
[20:14:25] <HAIKU-irker848> 768544f677c9: cddb_lookup: Cleanup.
[20:14:26] <HAIKU-irker848> df53a4bf2158: cddb_lookup: Added options, allow dump/verbose output.
[20:14:27] <HAIKU-irker848> 3008268c9df7: cddb_lookup: verbose now dumps server response.
[20:14:28] <HAIKU-irker848> 7dc0c7b52db2: cddb_lookup: Support multiline track response.
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[20:15:02] <tojoko> miqlas-H, well, got a lot to do. cisco exam practise tomorrow. and i didn't do much practice. But i've been waitin' for u actually.
[20:16:53] <miqlas-H> wich cisco exam?
[20:17:05] <tojoko> well, the first. ^^
[20:17:14] <miqlas-H> CCNA?
[20:17:25] <miqlas-H> are you waited for me? Why?
[20:18:15] <tojoko> yep and yes.
[20:18:28] <miqlas-H> But why?
[20:18:31] <tojoko> well, u remember haskell, what didn't work and was so complicated?
[20:18:42] <miqlas-H> Why on earth wait somebody for me?
[20:18:52] <miqlas-H> did you got it work?
[20:19:52] <tojoko> nope, i haven't given up yet, but i remembered what i compiled under beos was the preversion of it, called hugs.
[20:20:48] <tojoko> that should compile quite easy and would be enough i think for educational purposes. However, problem is, it doesn't compile for me and i'm not sure about the reason. (Might be due to little ram of the vm).
[20:21:23] <tojoko> u can find it under https://www.haskell.org/hugs/pages/latest.htm
[20:23:40] <miqlas-H> it is from 2006?
[20:24:02] <miqlas-H> snapshot 403 error
[20:24:08] <tojoko> well, i tried to compile the one from 2002 nov.
[20:24:52] <miqlas-H> but why not the latest? did you got it work on BeOS?
[20:25:44] <tojoko> well, i can't remember which one i got to work with beos and what i configured. on one of my computers should the instructions still be, but which one search first?
[20:27:40] <tojoko> miqlas-H: http://marc.info/?l=haskell&m=66622028426547
[20:28:02] <miqlas-H> i would start with the latest one.
[20:28:37] <tojoko> well, i thought best to start the one mentioned in the link.
[20:32:07] <miqlas-H> configuring...
[20:33:00] <miqlas-H> building
[20:33:39] <miqlas-H> This is what i'm trying: hugs98-Sep2006.tar.gz
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[20:35:11] <tojoko> and?
[20:36:14] <miqlas-H> compiling, what can i say other nice things?
[20:36:21] <miqlas-H> the sky is blue over germany.
[20:36:31] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2910 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/2910
[20:36:59] <tojoko> :)
[20:37:14] <miqlas-H> " error: conflicting types for 'execvpe'"
[20:37:33] <miqlas-H> i think execvpe isn't supported on Haiku.
[20:38:14] <miqlas-H> i wrote a bug report about it some years ago, there was a patch, but it wasn't a fully functional one, if i recall it correctly.
[20:38:41] <miqlas-H> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12114
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[20:41:09] <miqlas-H> maybe you can replace execpve with exec, but i'm not sure.
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[20:46:27] <miqlas-H> Oh, i tried GHC just now. Yeah, it requires GHC.
[20:46:32] <miqlas-H> Thank you very much.
[20:47:42] <Begas_afk> good luck on your CCNA exam tomorrow tojoko :)
[20:47:45] <miqlas-H> Why the latest ghc just 10 mb, and an older one 107?
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[20:50:41] <miqlas-H> Oh, they maybe capable to bootstrap on Haiku.
[20:50:45] <miqlas-H> Lemme test them
[20:51:16] <miqlas-H> tojoko: i have morning home-office. that is your luck.
[20:51:36] <miqlas-H> why do you need haskell actually?
[20:51:52] <Vidrep> axeld, are you working on anything exciting for Haiku in a branch?
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[20:52:02] <HaikuUser> hello...
[20:52:09] <tojoko> hi HaikuUser, welcome
[20:52:10] <Vidrep> Hi
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[20:52:41] <Moose> hmm... forgot what nick I used to use.. :)
[20:52:42] <miqlas-H> Hi Moose? Office?
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[20:53:33] <tojoko> miqlas-H, well, i played around with it years ago when i had to. was a course for a whole semester for me. i didn't finish it, but still have the book. and, like i said, i think for educational purpose it would still fit into the haikudepot.
[20:53:34] <Rothenkolk> trying this :-) Moose was registered
[20:53:40] <miqlas-H> Then not from Office.
[20:54:04] <Rothenkolk> having a nostalgic period :-)
[20:54:25] <miqlas-H> I just watched the Office serie some months ago....
[20:54:53] <togermano> I was wondering if it is possible to get american online 4.0 working so that I can dial into my internet on slackware
[20:55:02] <Rothenkolk> installed a Haiku VM.. great :)
[20:56:00] <Rothenkolk> starting to remember the stuff... anyone have a good link to a BeOS/Haiku "Hello world"?
[20:56:12] <Rothenkolk> (app template)
[20:56:19] <Rothenkolk> or samples
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[20:56:44] <tojoko> Rothenkolk, well, best u have a look into the haikudepot first and klick on everything you know. ^^
[20:57:17] <tojoko> miqlas-H, why not reopen the ticket?
[20:57:20] <Rothenkolk> I even looked through a video of the original Amiga team telling the story of its development :)
[20:57:47] <Rothenkolk> next I will probably set up an Amiga emulator as well :-)
[20:57:59] <miqlas-H> tojoko: i haven't meet with execvpe anymore. Nim isn't require it anymore.
[20:58:02] <Rothenkolk> have to dig out those old floppies and some HW to read them :-)
[20:58:14] <togermano> http://blog.leahhanson.us/post/haiku-first-gui-program.html
[20:58:16] <Rothenkolk> tojoko: thanks will check it out
[20:58:24] <Rothenkolk> thanks togermano
[20:58:29] <togermano> ur welcome love xoxo
[20:59:57] <tojoko> Begasus, thanks btw
[21:00:34] <Rothenkolk> did turn up so nice looking in Netpositive ;-)
[21:00:41] <miqlas-H> Rothenkolk: if you cannot find HaikuDepot, then you are using the old release. Try the latest nightly one!
[21:01:34] <Rothenkolk> miqlas: ok.. is it reasonable stable? (i mean in terms of bugs not in terms of features/functionality :-)
[21:01:35] <miqlas-H> tojoko: no, the 107 mb tarbvall requires installed GHC too.
[21:01:38] <miqlas-H> Sadly.
[21:02:02] <miqlas-H> Rothenkolk: it is reasonably stable for me.
[21:02:16] <miqlas-H> Check it out, it got all the latest developements.
[21:02:18] <Rothenkolk> sounds good enough for me then :)
[21:02:34] <Rothenkolk> I am curious.. will do
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[21:03:27] <miqlas-H> Rothenkolk: it is not AnalIntruder2016Pro, so have fun.
[21:05:58] <miqlas-H> tojoko: i don't implyin' anything but the CCNA answers can you find on the net.
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[21:10:42] <Rothenkolk> ah! BWindow... MessageReceived.. this I recognize :-)
[21:12:08] <miqlas-H> :)
[21:12:19] <Rothenkolk> and in a family tree BeOS is clearly the .. mother? grandmother?? of Android..
[21:12:25] <tojoko> miqlas-H, it's practice, on the lab.
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[21:14:39] <postmen> miqlas-H, please have a look at https://www.haskell.org/hugs/pages/downloading-Dec2001.htm - scroll down to the bottom of the page directly.
[21:14:40] <Rothenkolk> that makes Haiku a cousin I guess :)
[21:14:45] <postmen> rofl
[21:15:41] <Rothenkolk> I wonder if my port of Guile to BeOS is still around somewhere :-)
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[21:17:34] <Begasus> https://sourceware.org/ml/guile/1999-12/msg00466.html
[21:17:46] <Begasus> atleast there seems to be a patch around Rothenkolk ;)
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[21:19:41] <postmen> Rothenkolk: ftp://ftp.muleslow.net/beos/bebits/BeWare/OldBeWare/lang/
[21:20:06] <postmen> Rothenkolk: ftp://ftp.mayn.de/pub/really_old_stuff/beos/MIRROR.BeOS/lang/
[21:20:16] <Rothenkolk> Begasus: I am impressed by the quick find however that was not my port :-) probably a better one though :)
[21:21:18] <Begasus> ;)
[21:21:46] <miqlas-H> Shat!
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[21:21:48] <Rothenkolk> postmen: thats the one :-)
[21:22:02] <miqlas-H> fish shell crashing yet on Haiku.
[21:22:09] <Rothenkolk> real old stuff :)
[21:22:11] <miqlas-H> I have no idea, what goes wrong.
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[21:27:14] <Rothenkolk> reading my old readme file.. like listening to a younger version of yourself and being quite sure what I am going to say :)
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[21:28:10] <miqlas-H> Rothenkolk: i also made that, felt the same.
[21:28:38] <miqlas-H> But in this case it was the crack for Zeta what i made long-ong time ago.
[21:29:25] <miqlas-H> It was interresting to find and read the readme ~ 10 years later.
[21:29:31] <Rothenkolk> a bit odd indeed.. time travel
[21:30:22] <miqlas-H> it was at this time already strange, as the Zeta guys fixed it, somebody used my crack and extended it to get it work with the new version.
[21:30:28] <miqlas-H> It was just
[21:30:35] <miqlas-H> void main (void)
[21:30:39] <miqlas-H> main
[21:30:55] <miqlas-H> printf ("Hello!");
[21:31:30] <miqlas-H> that's all
[21:31:53] <miqlas-H> My most important crack yet.
[21:32:14] <miqlas-H> I actually cracked Zeta with a modified HelloWorld.
[21:32:44] <miqlas-H> It started automatically the register app in every 15minutes or so.
[21:33:10] <miqlas-H> I tried to delete it, but it wanted toreinstall it from the CD all the time as i deleted it.
[21:33:58] <miqlas-H> so i made an app what didin't did anything, but had te correct name and correct place. So the OS tried to ru this program in every 15 minutes.
[21:34:02] <Rothenkolk> stubborn computers are the worst :-)
[21:34:08] <miqlas-H> and it wrote to the console Hello!
[21:34:30] <miqlas-H> It worked very well.
[21:34:41] <miqlas-H> So i made an install package for my "rack"
[21:34:45] <miqlas-H> "crack"
[21:34:59] <miqlas-H> but they fixed it in the next revision.
[21:35:21] <miqlas-H> And somebody made a new crack, while used the same executable what i made.
[21:35:30] <miqlas-H> It was a nice time.
[21:36:47] <miqlas-H> So if you ever used a cracked Zeta, then you just runned my HelloWorld example code in every 15 minutes :)
[21:37:36] <Begasus> tsss :P
[21:38:48] <Vidrep> Everybody was so upbeat about BeOS/Zeta and the soon-to-be Haiku
[21:39:08] <mmu_man> eh
[21:39:42] <mmu_man> I recall having to write code to check for the boot drive to be readonly, else it'd just randomly crash, for the demo cd
[21:40:03] <miqlas-H> Sorry, i know it wasn't nice, what i did, but i had no other way to eliminate the nagging window.
[21:40:31] <Rothenkolk> just of curiousity: anyone here still have a BeBox laying around?
[21:40:46] <miqlas-H> I was just a student with little pension, so i had no money for it
[21:41:11] <miqlas-H> In the same time i had yellowTAB NDA :)
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[21:42:02] <miqlas-H> I worked pretty hard on Zeta translation, but they never gave me an official licence, so i told myself, i don't care anymore.
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[21:43:09] * Begasus thinks he still got the iso's from Neo's version, and a few official CD's :)
[21:43:33] <miqlas-H> Because you was a big name at this time too.
[21:43:41] <miqlas-H> I wasn't. :S
[21:43:59] <Vidrep> I don't have any official Zeta CD's, just a bunch of unofficial ones
[21:44:39] <Begasus> lol, I wasn't a big name miqlas-H ;)
[21:44:40] <miqlas-H> i never had any official install media for BeOS and Zeta, just a BeOS PE install CD.
[21:44:55] <miqlas-H> Begasus: don't bullshit me :)
[21:44:58] <Begasus> still have R5 origninal also :)
[21:45:03] <mmu_man> well, I started with BeOS by installing an R4 demo cd, so :)
[21:45:26] <miqlas-H> mmu_man: what about the zsh integration?
[21:45:28] <Begasus> started out with R5 PE before I bought the official R5
[21:46:56] <Vidrep> How many of the current Haiku devs were formerly working in an official capacity on Zeta?
[21:47:07] <miqlas-H> I started with BeOS R5 PE, then BeOS HE, then Zeta, then Haiku
[21:47:16] <Begasus> miqlas-H, I never got any money, only did translations, icon themes, and a lot of testing on Zeta ;)
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[21:47:45] <miqlas-H> Begasus: I also did plenty of that, except icons.
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[21:48:13] <miqlas-H> i also didn't got any money or anything from Bernd.
[21:48:44] <Begasus> I got a good friendship with him if that counts ;)
[21:48:51] <miqlas-H> There was a long thank you text in the Zeta about window about he japanise translator team, but nothing about me.
[21:48:56] <Rothenkolk> BeInc where really great with the thirdparty
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[21:49:02] <Rothenkolk> guy
[21:49:03] <Rothenkolk> s
[21:49:13] <miqlas-H> we are
[21:49:14] <Begasus> hi Lelldorin1 :)
[21:49:27] <miqlas-H> Lelldorin1: are you live yet?
[21:49:28] <Begasus> we're still around, that matters :)
[21:49:52] <Lelldorin1> hello Begasus :-)
[21:49:57] <miqlas-H> Long time no sea!
[21:50:05] <Lelldorin1> hi miqlas-H
[21:50:33] <miqlas-H> Lelldorin1: as i'm in Germany, we should met sometime.
[21:50:45] <Begasus> maybe next BG miqlas-H ;)
[21:50:57] <miqlas-H> Bega, ofc.
[21:51:00] <Lelldorin1> bg 30 sould be possible
[21:51:37] <Rothenkolk> we had some Be Inc guys come over to the university to present
[21:51:51] <Begasus> I know of a meeting with the German guys once (not sure anymore where it was - long time ago), we sat at the river with a campfire :D (and beers) :)
[21:52:12] <miqlas-H> first i was mad about js, on the next BG i've seen what kind of small child can e be, now at the next time i'll be okay
[21:52:38] <js> miqlas-H: ?
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[21:52:43] <miqlas-H> shit
[21:52:46] <js> what exactly is your problem?
[21:52:58] <miqlas-H> nothing :)
[21:53:23] <js> miqlas-H: no, really. please do tell.
[21:53:46] <Begasus> been there a few times, was always great fun for me
[21:54:18] <js> miqlas-H: I'm not even sure who you are and thus in what way we interacted
[21:54:25] <Begasus> checking whether libunistring was built with iconv support... no ... tsss :)
[21:54:29] <miqlas-H> i was mad about you 2 years ago, you looked like this "God in the Pantheon" type (it was my first BG, sooo ieverything was crazy for me), but at the last BG we slept in the same room, and i made your bed, if you remember.
[21:54:46] <miqlas-H> I asked you if you ever was in military, and you told no.
[21:55:16] <js> miqlas-H: ah, then I know who you are. I did not notice you being mad, though.
[21:55:16] <miqlas-H> so i made your bed in the middle of the night.
[21:55:28] <miqlas-H> i wasn't mad anymore.
[21:55:42] <js> well, I was trying to make it, but was extremely sleep-deprived and it took me … well, way too long ;). so yeah, thanks for helping and sorry for waking you up
[21:56:24] <miqlas-H> Just on the first time. Because you wasn't a core Haiku/BeOS dev or user before, so i thought you just want to steal the party.
[21:56:37] <miqlas-H> And you are woring at the eveil Co.
[21:56:45] * Rothenkolk thinking Haiku may make a good "kiosk" OS...
[21:57:34] <js> miqlas-H: well, I've been a Haiku dev for quite some time already ;)
[21:57:41] <miqlas-H> js, i haven't noticed that you are here, sorry.
[21:57:47] <js> before I worked at any corp :)
[21:58:11] <miqlas-H> i never seen your avatar or name, maybe my bad.
[21:58:34] <js> miqlas-H: look at git commits ;)
[21:58:35] <miqlas-H> but we slept in the same room, so you are my sleep-mate now.
[21:58:43] <js> it's been a while, though
[21:58:48] <js> since I got work, I barely ever have time :(
[21:58:50] <miqlas-H> i don't belive in git, sorry.
[21:58:59] <js> mostly my contributions are limited to the BG code sprint
[21:59:04] <js> due to that
[21:59:13] <miqlas-H> it looks better in german language.... Ich glabe nicht in Git.
[21:59:27] <js> well, git is the only thing where there is Haiku :P
[21:59:55] <Begasus> glabe miqlas-H? ;)
[22:00:17] <miqlas-H> "Ich glaube nicht in Git."
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[22:00:36] <miqlas-H> Git=~Gott
[22:00:52] <Begasus> ;)
[22:01:20] <miqlas-H> Endlich....
[22:02:24] <Begasus> comme sa ... rien comprends que tu dit ;)
[22:03:10] <miqlas-H> js, i know i'm a creepy, and antiscial, but first you looked like "I'm the god, i'm working at Evil Corp, i have frickbook, and shit, nobody can be so seriously intelligent as i'am.
[22:03:19] <miqlas-H> Maybe i misunderstand you.
[22:03:47] <js> miqlas-H: I have honestly no idea why you think that.
[22:04:02] <miqlas-H> I was new there, and i searched for my place, and thought, you are nobodíyy, who trying to get the crone.
[22:04:13] <miqlas-H> Sorrry, if i misunderstand you.
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[22:05:18] <miqlas-H> Maybe you are just extro vert, while i'am introvert, so it makes me hard to interact with anybody else
[22:06:04] <Rothenkolk> there was a quite good/funny talk on TED about introverts and extroverts
[22:07:00] <miqlas-H> But i need to say, i wasn't the only one, who never heard about you. As i wrote an article for the Hungarian Haiku mailing list, plenty people asked me, who is JS actualy.
[22:07:17] <js> miqlas-H: I refrain from the pointless discussions on the ML and just write code
[22:07:34] <js> signal to noise ratio on the ML is just too low
[22:08:09] <miqlas-H> Rothenkolk: i wanted to register the introwerk.com, but my friend told me i'm already enough introvert, so i should register the extrowerk.com, so did i.
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[22:08:36] <miqlas-H> s, i can boost it, if you want.
[22:08:40] <miqlas-H> js
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[22:09:37] <js> anyway, I haven't done *that* much on Haiku. Only around 100 commits or so. I wish I had more time.
[22:10:12] <miqlas-H> As you maybe know, i was already active user as BeOS went broke, so i thought you are just a new butterfly, who comes and goes. That's all.
[22:10:27] <js> nah, was my main system at R5 times
[22:10:45] <js> then moved back to linux once Be died
[22:10:46] <miqlas-H> But now i see, that you are here, and it makes me stupid.
[22:10:49] <js> until Haiku came around
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[22:15:05] <Begasus> ok ... libunistring checking for iconv = no and still while compiling it says -DDEPENDS_ON_LIBICONV=1 ?
[22:15:33] <miqlas-H> senilitaet?
[22:16:06] <Begasus> who knows ;)
[22:16:32] <Begasus> gut iconv isn't listed in the recipe so it would make sence that it isn't found
[22:17:29] <Begasus> hence this comment while running configure ... "checking whether libunistring was built with iconv support... no"
[22:17:34] <miqlas-H> then you can just say ifdef Depends_ON_Libiconv
[22:17:52] <miqlas-H> #undefinde Depends on libiconv
[22:17:55] <miqlas-H> endif
[22:17:55] <mmu_man> http://amigastore.eu/en/501-aca-1233n40mhz-includes-mmu-and-128mb-of-ram.html
[22:18:03] <mmu_man> anyone wants to resurect the 68k port ^
[22:18:09] <miqlas-H> mmu: includes mmu?
[22:18:20] <miqlas-H> please, no private advertisements.
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[22:18:31] <js> mmu_man: nice. if only there were something for the A4000
[22:18:35] <miqlas-H> we have enough spam already.
[22:19:10] <miqlas-H> Just joking,,,,
[22:20:08] <Begasus> recipe for libuninstring looks wrong also ....
[22:20:14] <miqlas-H> mmu_man, can i ask where did your name comes from?
[22:20:46] <miqlas-H> MultiMediaUnit?
[22:20:51] <miqlas-H> MMU?
[22:21:11] <miqlas-H> MaMUts?
[22:21:31] <miqlas-H> Matrix Military Unit?
[22:21:37] <mmu_man> the one in the 68030 :)
[22:21:51] <miqlas-H> Maiku Maker Unit?
[22:22:51] <miqlas-H> why is 68030 so significant for you?
[22:22:57] <js> because it was a great CPU!
[22:23:09] <js> mine didn't have an MMU, though :(
[22:23:19] <js> 68030LC *sigh*
[22:24:33] <js> ah, nope, 68EC030 is what it was called :)
[22:24:36] <js> long, long time ago…
[22:25:15] <miqlas-H> you can compensate it with your extrovert seele.
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[22:27:47] <Lelldorin1> that can i do if then i does not can run "make" anymore? output: command not found
[22:28:21] <PulkoMandy> pkgman install cmd:make ?
[22:28:26] <miqlas-H> Lelldorin1: whart are you trying to accomplish?
[22:29:10] <Lelldorin1> PulkoMandy: thanks
[22:29:22] <Lelldorin1> miqlas-H: only trying to recompile old beos apps
[22:30:11] <miqlas-H> I never had to install make in Haiku, that's why i'm a bit wondering abut cmd:make.
[22:30:34] <Lelldorin1> it runs all the time but today it missed
[22:30:40] <Lelldorin1> i dont know
[22:30:46] <miqlas-H> It is correct, but how did you haven't got make?
[22:30:58] <Lelldorin1> eventually deinstall by deinstalling packages of a deinstalled app?
[22:31:28] <Begasus> eeps
[22:31:32] <miqlas-H> Lelldorin1 i don't reinstall an app. I PURGE them.
[22:31:45] <miqlas-H> with format c:
[22:32:11] <Begasus> checking for iconv.h... yes :) so let's see what this brings
[22:32:49] <Begasus> Lelldorin1 ... that's why I usualy install stuff I build in ~/config/packages (so it doesn't mess around with system packages) :)
[22:32:51] <miqlas-H> I need to say goodby, i had enough beer for today. JS we need to drink something ogether. Tee?
[22:33:06] <js> miqlas-H: maybe on the next BG ;)
[22:33:15] <miqlas-H> Oakay.
[22:33:16] <Begasus> +1
[22:33:18] <js> I hope I can make it again :)
[22:33:28] <js> had to skip 1 begeistert before the last one :(
[22:33:34] <Begasus> same here .. it's bee a few years
[22:33:43] <Begasus> been*
[22:33:44] <Lelldorin1> Begasus: this was not the problem
[22:34:01] <miqlas-H> You need to make it again, because you don't want to looks like a butterfly, who just flying away.
[22:34:02] <Lelldorin1> i just deinstall paladin, bercause i does not use it
[22:34:22] <js> miqlas-H: I think it's almost a pattern that I come every 2nd BG :D
[22:34:27] <miqlas-H> js you was on the last 2 BG.
[22:34:42] <js> miqlas-H: oh, right, I did indeed make it twice in a row now. 2014 and 2015. Yay! :)
[22:34:55] <Begasus> tss :P
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[22:35:11] <miqlas-H> then we cannot meet in 2016 :(
[22:35:22] <Begasus> Lelldorin1 .. uninstalling paladin shouldn't uninstall make I think?
[22:35:27] <js> nah, let's make the semiannual thing an annual thing now that I broke the pattern :P
[22:36:05] <Lelldorin1> hmmm, i try to run krystaldrop and i get the message that libSDL_ttf.so and libxml2.so are not available, but i haikudepot i does not see libSDL_ttf.so
[22:36:07] <miqlas-H> JS: no panic. You just got one more year to practice, how you can make your bed in the middle of the night :)
[22:36:18] <js> miqlas-H: next time I just do it before :P
[22:36:30] <Begasus> pkgman search sdl ... Lelldorin1
[22:36:32] <js> I didn't because I only stayed that night ;)
[22:36:35] <miqlas-H> Easy!
[22:36:57] <Begasus> then you'll see it in there, then pkgman install sdl_ttf_devel (should install the lib also)
[22:37:03] <miqlas-H> So i need to go guys!
[22:37:10] <Begasus> cu miqlas-H
[22:37:12] <miqlas-H> Good night for everybody and js.
[22:37:18] <js> night!
[22:37:21] <Begasus> lol
[22:37:29] <miqlas-H> and Begasus for you too.
[22:37:39] <Begasus> n8! :)
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[22:38:17] <Lelldorin1> Begasus: iinstalled but the game says again not available
[22:38:55] <Begasus> did you link against it? REQUIRES --> lib:libsdl_ttf
[22:39:40] <Lelldorin1> Begasus: hey i am not a pro developer i just try that i can do and understand. so if a app ask for a lib i will install it
[22:40:05] <Begasus> Lelldorin1 I'm less then a developer then you are ;)
[22:40:49] <Lelldorin1> Begasus: but you build so much games in the past so you have much more expierience :-)
[22:42:39] <Begasus> maybe in creating recipes, if I run into problems in the source files I am stuck (mostly) ;)
[22:42:41] <axeld> Vidrep: Unfortunately, no, I haven't found much time to work on Haiku lately :-/
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[22:42:56] <Begasus> hi axeld
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[22:44:20] <Begasus> was looking into libunistring today when running accross an error while trying to compile something else when I hit checking whether libunistring was built with iconv support... no, you know if that was intentualy?
[22:44:56] <Vidrep> Hey axeld. Sorry to hear that.
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[22:45:20] <Vidrep> I see you did a fix to cddb, so that's a positive
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[22:46:10] <Vidrep> axeld, are there still any outstanding issues with the launch daemon?
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[22:50:25] <bbjimmy> I hate that vision can disconnect and not give any indication that the connection is not active.
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[22:53:14] <Begasus> wb Barrett :)
[22:53:19] <Begasus> wb bbjimmy :)
[22:53:55] <bbjimmy> wb?
[22:53:59] <DHowett> "welcome back"
[22:54:16] <js> bbjimmy: try using it together with znc :)
[22:54:49] <bbjimmy> What is znc?
[22:55:22] <js> http://znc.in
[22:56:05] * bbjimmy is iff to find out all about znc.
[22:56:23] <Vidrep> bbjimmy, a while ago there was chat about Zeta, which reminded me of JABA app. Any news? Just curious.
[22:57:28] <bbjimmy> got the app, but it will need to be completely re-done to make it work again. been busy programming my new game.
[22:58:41] <Vidrep> I had forgotten about it until today
[22:59:07] <Vidrep> Not much time for Haiku lately. Familiar story for a lot of us.
[22:59:34] <Begasus> ah right! it was with the guys from (mostly) the yab family that we had the encounter in Germany years ago :D
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[23:00:52] <bbjimmy> Begasus what encounter is that?
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[23:01:47] <Begasus> it was years ago bbjimmy, I remember stargater was there and some of the others (forgot the names atm) at the side of a river :)
[23:07:21] <Vidrep> Lelldorin1, have you done anything further with your hardware database?
[23:08:28] <Lelldorin1> Vidrep; that i should do with it?
[23:09:15] <Lelldorin1> the latest version are online on software.besly.de
[23:09:23] <axeld> Vidrep: yes, but I haven't really gotten into those yet
[23:09:27] <Lelldorin1> but i does not get any new hardware info
[23:09:34] <axeld> Hi Begasus
[23:10:43] <Vidrep> Lelldorin1, did you get my last two entries? That might have been 6 weks ago while I was off work
[23:10:44] <Begasus> hi axeld, any thoughts on the libunistring not being build with iconv support?
[23:10:48] <Vidrep> weeks
[23:11:00] <axeld> Begasus: sorry, I have no clue about that
[23:11:30] <Begasus> ok thanks
[23:13:08] <Lelldorin1> Vidrep; i add the vesa resoulution request and the hardwaredata i get sience then, but after this there was no new data
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[23:14:04] <Vidrep> I sent a zip file with new info
[23:14:44] <Lelldorin1> Vidrep: available using the update fnction
[23:14:56] <Vidrep> It was version 3.7, if I recall. In fact, it was the same day you released that revision and added those extra fields
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[23:16:36] <Vidrep> Lelldorin1, I'm off work again after Friday. I'll try again. We can discuss it like last time.
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[23:19:15] <Barrett> hola
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[23:27:48] <Lelldorin1> cu all
[23:27:51] <Lelldorin1> n8
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[23:35:28] <postmen> what's "sudo" under haiku?
[23:37:44] <bbjimmy> su ?
[23:38:05] <Begasus> no need for sudo in Haiku?
[23:38:58] <jessicah> user is uid 0, so no sudo/su
[23:39:04] <jessicah> you're already effectively root
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[23:41:32] <postmen> thanks.
[23:43:42] <postmen> What does ":No such file or directory file /bin/sh" supposed to tell me?
[23:44:08] <jessicah> that's odd
[23:44:15] <jessicah> sure there isn't some sort of typo?
[23:45:29] <jessicah> probably something you're doing wrong
[23:45:56] <postmen> nope, thanks - it seems for one time not the fault of haiku.
[23:46:11] <postmen> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/27054/bin-bash-no-such-file-or-directory if u r interested into any further details.
[23:48:07] <postmen> still, don't know how to fix it.
[23:49:31] <jessicah> pastebin your script
[23:51:00] <jessicah> you could also inspect it in DiskProbe to make sure there are no erroneous bytes present
[23:53:27] <DHowett> I wonder if it's an errant ^M?
[23:55:29] <postmen> no, it's an \r - multiples one, the same as described in http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/27054/bin-bash-no-such-file-or-directory .
[23:55:44] <postmen> so pastebin wouldn't do any good, i guess.
[23:57:06] <jessicah> sed -i -e 's/\r//g' filename
[23:57:10] <jessicah> should do the trick
[23:57:53] <DHowett> postmen: ^M is a \r :
[23:57:54] <DHowett> :P
[23:58:08] <DHowett> if you have 'dos2unix', that'll work too
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[23:58:44] <jessicah> pkgman install -y dos2unix
[23:58:49] <jessicah> if you want to use dos2unix :p
[23:59:01] <postmen> thank u
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