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[00:01:07] <danboid> Ae we not going to see -dev packages in Haikudepot?
[00:03:18] <luroh> by default, _devel packages don't show in HaikuDepot, but you can change that from the menu
[00:05:40] <danboid> luroh: So it is!
[00:05:54] <danboid> So they are
[00:07:30] <danboid> Are the ones with x86 in their name the gcc2 builds and the ones without gcc4?
[00:08:03] <danboid> ones = Haikudepot packages
[00:09:00] <luroh> the ones named x86 are gcc4
[00:09:54] <luroh> need to hit the sack here, good night!
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[00:10:39] <danboid> Its maybe too late but I don't think thats a very obvoius or logical naming convention. x86 normally means 32 bit and its not obvious which GCC version they might relate to without research
[00:11:13] <danboid> or bothering you guys on IRC :)
[00:11:27] <jessicah`> gcc2 packages are labelled x86_gcc2
[00:11:31] <jessicah`> :p
[00:11:49] <jessicah`> but HaikuDepot must hide that
[00:11:59] <danboid> Seems so
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[01:01:56] <HAIKU-irker005> jessicah-github.efi.master: [1 commit] https://github.com/jessicah/haiku/compare/f0d6797c6bdc...faabb8b673e4
[01:01:57] <HAIKU-irker005> faabb8b673e4: UEFI: add missing globals and timer init from cpu.cpp
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[03:21:46] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #314 of haiku-nightlies-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @nightly-anyboot] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_64/builds/314
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[04:03:24] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev49130 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f11d3df9aa3b+%5E4b4a2b684ca3
[04:03:25] <HAIKU-irker005> f11d3df9aa3b: radeon_hd: DP encoder. Fix PVS 2022 to 2025
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[04:47:00] <HAIKU-irker005> jessicah-github.efi.master: [2 commits] https://github.com/jessicah/haiku/compare/faabb8b673e4...d026b9601a96
[04:47:01] <HAIKU-irker005> 004d05644c93: src/system/boot: re-enable -Werror
[04:47:02] <HAIKU-irker005> d026b9601a96: UEFI: cleanup some warnings
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[07:11:36] <Carl_Miller> G’night all *hug*
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[12:20:57] <BootZ> Hello, can I ask a question about the latest supported nightly buid?
[12:23:09] <BootZ> I use now the Hrev49130. Although I do not have to disable local APIC anymore, the Intel Mobile 4 video driver crashes. I can start with VESA mode, anyone else experiencing this?
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[12:30:56] <Paradoxon> BootZ did you checked the tickets?
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[15:00:49] <danboid> ey up
[15:01:35] <danboid> Are there any tracker plugins to browse SMB, NFS or SFTP shares?
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[15:02:04] <danboid> or are these planned features for Tracker?
[15:03:39] <Diver> danboid: there is sshfs_fuse
[15:04:57] <Diver> unfortunately, there are no smb browsers
[15:04:58] <danboid> Diver: Ah ok. Is smbclient in Haiku depot?
[15:05:06] <danboid> oh right
[15:05:21] <danboid> That sounds like quite an omission
[15:05:45] <danboid> (I don't have my Haiku machine here)
[15:06:11] <Diver> smbclient is in samba package currently
[15:06:53] <Diver> would be nice to find some qt based smb browser
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[15:07:26] <danboid> I've also been wondering - if a company decided they wanted to release some non-free drivers for Haiku, how would this work?
[15:08:24] <danboid> AFAIK all the drivers etc are bundled into the Haiku package now aren't they?
[15:08:43] <Diver> right
[15:09:13] <Diver> well, a company can create a package for its driver
[15:09:52] <danboid> OK. Makes sense
[15:10:37] <danboid> I'll have to retreat to think of some more questions now :)
[15:11:21] <waddlesplash> danboid: "That sounds like quite an omission" <- Well, we prioritize BeOS R5 features over Windows interoperability.
[15:11:26] <waddlesplash> Patches accepted :)
[15:12:02] <danboid> waddlesplash: That was before diver told me samba is in depot. What about NFS?
[15:12:19] <waddlesplash> danboid: NFSv2 and NFSv4 are built-in.
[15:12:26] <danboid> lovely!
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[15:23:17] <waddlesplash> jessicah: kudos on the UEFI work!
[15:23:35] <waddlesplash> Have you looked into having a hybrid (U)EFI / BIOS boot image? Or is that a non-issue?
[15:24:30] <danboid> Haiku boots on UEFI now?
[15:24:35] <waddlesplash> danboid: No, WIP.
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[15:25:08] <waddlesplash> jessicah's been working on it (and tqh before her) for over a year now.
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[16:01:53] <_3dEyes> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4494939/ScreenShots/Qmmp_0.8.4_haiku.png
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[16:10:43] <mmu_man> nice
[16:10:50] <mmu_man> does audio work? :D
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[16:16:22] <Diver> mmu_man: not yet, it crashes somewhere inside ffmpeg lib
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[19:02:29] <HAIKU-irker005> pdziepak-github.gcc2-c++14: [2 commits] https://github.com/pdziepak/Haiku/compare/a2c537cba7d0
[19:02:30] <HAIKU-irker005> 66fbe654aefe: kernel: define some C++14 keywords when using GCC2
[19:02:31] <HAIKU-irker005> a2c537cba7d0: kernel/legacy: add partial implementation of <atomic>
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[19:16:48] <Anarchos> When i try to update, i get this error : http://pastebin.com/QeB5jspQ
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[19:19:06] <humdinger> Anarchos: strange. the current revision is hrev49130...
[19:19:41] <Diver> checkfs /boot
[19:21:25] <Anarchos> Diver wow i thought all the bfs bugs were squashed !
[19:22:03] <Anarchos> last_modified (inode = 4230), invalid b+tree UserGuide (inode = 786510), could not be opened
[19:22:37] <Anarchos> still the same logs.
[19:24:06] <Anarchos> Are the repos locations correct ? http://pastebin.com/8j5uCY05
[19:26:07] <jessicah> waddlesplash: to be fair, there used to be working cifsmount for BeOS
[19:28:08] <humdinger> Anarchos: those look alright
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[19:34:09] <waddlesplash> jessicah: it was just an interface to the CIFS driver, it didn't do much on its own I believe
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[19:37:03] <Alehins> when can I expect a working port of Battletoads?
[19:37:29] <Anarchos> humdinger i found the problem : i replaced tmp by a link to another partition. It prevents pkgman to update. Weird !
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[19:41:44] <jessicah> waddlesplash: still, it was possible to use SMB shares with Tracker in BeOS
[19:41:56] <waddlesplash> yeah, because of CIFS
[19:42:37] <Diver> mucommander supports smb
[19:42:56] <Diver> but filesystem is way better of course
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[20:31:14] <luroh> heh, forgot to install a GL renderer, looks like i'm trapped in 'Goonies'
[20:31:50] <luroh> but the soundtrack works :)
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[20:40:12] <luroh> hm, looks like having a GL renderer doesn't do much other than killing the soundtrack...
[20:43:06] <PulkoMandy> try another one ? :)
[20:43:22] <luroh> well, i've tried swrast and swpipe
[20:43:24] <PulkoMandy> some games work better with swrast, others with softpipe
[20:50:55] <luroh> PulkoMandy: are you sure the recent workaround lets opengl dependent stuff continue after printing 'Trying to unlock from the wrong thread (#6400)'?
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[20:51:59] <PulkoMandy> I don't know, it should be identical to BeOS, but it isn't what we did before
[20:52:08] <luroh> ah
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[21:16:22] <luroh> giddy3 seems to have some dependency problems along with the same opengl problem as goonies
[21:16:50] <luroh> damn it's rough being a haiku gamer, i tell ya :p
[21:17:33] <tqh> no minecraft :)
[21:17:50] <luroh> how about no graphics even :P
[21:18:25] <tqh> is dwarf fortress text based?
[21:18:45] <luroh> but hey, the goonies soundtrack was great and the hang didn't consume 100% cpu
[21:18:52] <luroh> that's a solid 5/5 :)
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[21:19:00] <tqh> :)
[21:19:01] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49131 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f49b18811e33+%5Ef11d3df9aa3b
[21:19:05] <HAIKU-irker005> f49b18811e33: Update BeShare package to a version that does run
[21:19:08] <PulkoMandy> luroh: you can play some native games, like Critical Mass!
[21:19:30] <luroh> oh that's right, i even uploaded a screenshot the other day :)
[21:19:57] <luroh> perhaps it's time to revisit pipepanic as well
[21:20:26] <tqh> Would be nice to be able to run android games.
[21:20:48] <luroh> i honestly haven't played any
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[21:21:51] <tqh> I played way to much Pixel Dungeon.
[21:22:30] <PulkoMandy> I made a recipe for Basilisk II too, so you can play mac os 7 games
[21:22:37] <luroh> lol
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[21:30:07] <waddlesplash> tqh: Yes, but it's closed source, and I asked the author but he wasn't too keen on adding Haiku support so oh well.
[21:30:40] <tqh> We need an android environment.
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[21:32:26] <tqh> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Runtime
[21:32:34] <PulkoMandy> or, get Haiku running on phones, replace Android everywhere?
[21:35:13] <tqh> Phones are boring.
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[21:35:56] <tqh> a watch on the other hand :)
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[21:37:52] <PulkoMandy> I have connecting a sony liveview to Haiku on my TODO list
[21:38:07] <PulkoMandy> to use as some kind of blinkelights/replicant host or whatever
[21:38:54] <jjido> Hello. I do not see my wireless network interface in Network Settings, can you help? Running hrev49130
[21:40:03] <luroh> jjido: has it worked in the past?
[21:41:09] <jjido> luroh: at least it was showing up before
[21:41:44] <luroh> ah. and what happened in between? :)
[21:41:57] <jjido> luroh: Intel Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300, it used iprowifi4965
[21:42:13] <jjido> luroh: I updated the system
[21:42:37] <luroh> can you still reboot into the older version using the boot menu?
[21:43:07] <jjido> can you give me more detail? What boot menu?
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[21:43:28] <luroh> keep <Shift> depressed during early boot
[21:43:54] <luroh> that should take you to a menu
[21:44:25] <jjido> luroh: ok, let me try that. See you in a while.
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[21:55:14] <Bruno_S> hello all
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[22:00:16] <jessicah> good morning :)
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[22:06:05] <jjido> Luroh I did see a boot menu but no option to go back
[22:06:35] <luroh> jjido: it should be the top option, i think.. let me check
[22:07:31] <luroh> yep, 'select boot volume' is the somewhat cryptic title
[22:08:12] <luroh> that should present a list of versions possible to boot into
[22:08:53] <jjido> Heh I will try
[22:10:27] <Anarchos> jjido it worked for me.
[22:18:46] <Bruno_S> bye for now
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[22:56:08] <jjido> I am trying various past versions, they all hang before lighting up the atom square
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[22:58:26] <jjido> The only one that works is the last before current
[22:58:45] <jjido> And it was already not showing my wifi
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[23:05:19] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: anevilyak * hrev49132 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=22f13a09e143+%5Ef49b18811e33
[23:05:20] <HAIKU-irker005> 22f13a09e143: Debugger: Fill in missing piece of CpuState.
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[23:35:08] <jjido> Is there a file with the list of network interfaces ?
[23:47:11] <jjido> In hrev47937 I can see the wi-fi card in Devices, but not in Network Settings.
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[23:49:57] <jjido> On second examination I have the same in hrev49130. Any idea?
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[23:55:24] <jessicah> devices just probes the PCI bus, etc.
[23:55:34] <jessicah> it's not related to drivers at all
[23:55:50] <mmu_man> ie, it won't tell if a driver is able to use all the hardware it finds
[23:56:18] <mmu_man> that could probably be changed but is not obvious
[23:56:41] <mmu_man> old-style drivers generally don't tell the kernel if they use hardware or not
[23:56:58] <mmu_man> except sound drivers because I patched them to avoid conflicts with OSS4
[23:57:04] <jjido> There was a time when iprowifi4965 driver was loaded to handle my card
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[23:57:17] <jjido> Don't know why it stopped
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