April 28, 2015 
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April 28, 2015 [00:06:34] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[00:11:56] *** subcritical has quit IRC[00:18:05] *** danboid has joined #haiku[00:18:31] <danboid> I can't get Haiku to build under Haiku https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12031[00:18:56] *** NoXzema has quit IRC[00:19:03] *** FatherTime666 has joined #haiku[00:19:14] <danboid> Does Haiku have a 'make clean'?[00:21:09] <jessicah`> danboid: you don't need to build cross-tools[00:21:24] <jessicah`> just run: configure with no args, and it'll configure for you[00:21:57] <danboid> jessicah, Ah right. Makes sense. I thought I may need it for hybrid builds but thats for cross-compiling is it?[00:21:58] <jessicah`> then jam -q -j4 @nightly-raw, or similar; set -j to number of cores[00:22:17] <jessicah`> it will automatically detect the host is a hybrid and configure for that[00:22:18] <jessicah`> :)[00:22:29] <danboid> jessicah, Is there a 'make clean' thing?[00:22:44] <jessicah`> you only need the cross-compiler if you're targeting an arch that the host doesn't support[00:22:50] <jessicah`> e.g. x86_64 from an x86 host[00:22:57] <jessicah`> or x86 from an x86_64 host[00:23:13] <jessicah`> and if you're cross-compiling on Haiku, you need to do setarch x86 first[00:23:21] <jessicah`> danboid: I think there's a jam clean[00:23:25] <jessicah`> I've never used it before[00:23:37] <jessicah`> you can achieve an equivalent with jam -a[00:23:49] <jessicah`> the -a option forces all targets to be rebuilt[00:24:11] <jessicah`> but that will also re-download packages...[00:24:32] <jessicah`> if you want to start from scratch, you can rm -rf the generated sub-dir[00:24:37] <jessicah`> that's where all object files go[00:25:48] <danboid> OK, I'll try again then[00:25:51] <danboid> Thanks[00:26:03] *** danboid has quit IRC[00:34:24] <jessicah`> waddlesplash: fwiw, cross-compiling Haiku on Haiku works without issues nowadays[00:34:35] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[00:34:39] <jessicah`> just need to setarch x86 on a gcc2h first[00:35:35] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[00:37:22] *** danboid has joined #haiku[00:37:56] <danboid> Nah. It really desn't like me plus it seems Vision is broke so I'm having to reboot to get back on IRC[00:38:19] <danboid> BUILD FAILURE:[00:38:20] <danboid> ...failed updating 86 target(s)...[00:38:20] <danboid> ...skipped 10572 target(s)...[00:38:20] <danboid> ...updated 5480 target(s)...[00:38:20] <jessicah`> danboid: what is the error you get?[00:38:34] <jessicah`> run jam -q @nightly-raw, or whatever target you choose[00:38:40] <jessicah`> you should get the error more clearly[00:39:34] <danboid> OK so I'm running a recent nightly GCC2 Hybrid on an i7 (x86-64) thats still x86 compiling for x86 right?[00:39:52] <jessicah`> right[00:40:34] <danboid> I deleted the generated dir the ran 'configure' but nothing seemed to happen[00:40:44] <danboid> I mean I ran[00:40:48] <danboid> ./configure[00:41:01] <danboid> at the root of the haiku source tree[00:41:07] <jessicah`> yeah it has no output message[00:41:26] <jessicah`> then you run jam[00:41:54] <danboid> I'll have to try again with -q this time[00:42:12] <danboid> I can see me editing your compilation docs after this you know[00:42:48] *** DFerg has joined #haiku[00:43:04] <DFerg> I need some help with Media Player and/or VLC please[00:43:31] <DFerg> Neither is working after a clean install of Haiku, using nightly[00:46:49] <jessicah`> what's wrong with it?[00:46:57] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[00:46:58] <jessicah`> danboid: improvements are always welcome :D[00:47:49] <DFerg> @jessicah - is this in responce to my request for help?[00:47:58] <jessicah`> DFerg: yes[00:47:58] <DFerg> or are you talking to someone else?[00:47:58] *** danboid has quit IRC[00:48:00] <DFerg> ok[00:48:28] <DFerg> When I try to play using Media Player it just crashes, this happens on all audio and video files I have tried.[00:48:44] <DFerg> When I click on VLC to .launch it, it crashes imed.[00:49:07] <jessicah`> does seem odd. and it used to work?[00:49:54] <DFerg> yep, used to work great. Yesterday i did an "update" to up the system using terminal. I have been using this for a while to keep my system up to date and that is when it broke.[00:50:18] <DFerg> So, I whiped the drive clean and did a completly new install, still broken.[00:50:33] <jessicah`> weird. do you remember what your hrev was before you updated?[00:50:36] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[00:50:43] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[00:50:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[00:50:47] <jessicah`> it's probably best to open a ticket and attach debug reports[00:51:00] <DFerg> no, sorry it had been a about 3 weeks since I updated it.[00:51:35] <jessicah`> well, that's still useful to know[00:52:11] <DFerg> I can't open a trac ticket. I have been trying for months to reset my password so I can get in. But I never get the reset and I can'[00:52:23] <DFerg> can't get any other help to get that worked out.[00:55:32] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[00:56:22] <DFerg> Is there anyone who can help me with[00:56:29] <DFerg> Trac??[00:56:55] <jessicah`> hmm, I don't think I have enough permissions[00:57:00] <jessicah`> what's your username?[00:57:08] <DFerg> DFergFLA[00:57:38] <DFerg> I can do the password reset and it takes the username and email address I enter. but nothing ever gets to me for the reset. Nothing in the spam folder either.[00:58:01] *** nighty-_ has quit IRC[00:58:09] <jessicah`> yeah, password reset is broken iirc[00:58:55] <DFerg> great[00:59:04] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[00:59:59] <DFerg> oh well, give up at this point. I have done all I can with it. It doesn't work, and I can't log a ticket as requested. I may try again in a month or more to see if it works again.[01:00:54] <jessicah`> Diver: are you able to reset an account?[01:01:04] <jessicah`> I can't remember who can do that[01:01:31] <jessicah`> DFerg: give it a few hours for someone with access to get around to it[01:01:48] <DFerg> @jessicah, that would be great.[01:02:04] <jessicah`> patience is important when it comes to IRC :)[01:02:12] <DFerg> I have a topic open in the forum. I can add the log files there also.[01:02:13] <jessicah`> and we help where we can :)[01:02:28] <DFerg> I know, everyone is helpful.[01:03:25] <jessicah`> :)[01:04:20] *** FatherTime666 is now known as computerquip[01:05:44] *** danboid has joined #haiku[01:06:02] <danboid> What do I run to compile with gcc4?[01:07:13] <danboid> jessicah`: Prob was it doesn't tell you the proper error on first build attempt. Running a second time revealed it was trying to download extra packages[01:07:37] <danboid> (when you run jam)[01:07:39] <jessicah`> danboid: what was the full error?[01:07:57] *** MattLacey has joined #haiku[01:08:24] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[01:08:56] <DFerg> @jessicah - I can't seem to attatch files to forum posts. So, I have a screenshot of the error from Media Player and a crash log, I also have the crash log from VLC.[01:09:51] <DFerg> My screen name in the forum is DFergATL is whomever can help me would PM me there for either getting the log files and/or resetting my trac password so I can log a ticket. Thanks for the help[01:10:26] <danboid> jessicah`: http://pastebin.com/ssjMH0Nw[01:10:51] <danboid> I'm hoping gcc4 will be nicer to me[01:11:53] <jessicah`> danboid: ah, you have a problem in glue.c[01:11:59] <jessicah`> the other errors are red herrings[01:12:10] <jessicah`> see lines 4, 5, and 6[01:17:31] *** oblo has quit IRC[01:18:22] <jessicah`> danboid: you probably need to fix HAIKU_FIRMWARE_NAME_MAP to have the correct number[01:18:31] <jessicah`> so if you added a line, change 8 to 9[01:20:15] <danboid> jessicah`: Yes, I have done that. I thought as much :)[01:20:46] <danboid> jessicah`: Thanks for pointing out the real error[01:22:04] <jessicah`> no problem :)[01:23:09] *** Nach0z has quit IRC[01:23:18] <danboid> jessicah`: Why does it say 'gutenprint is not available on x86' at the start of the build? Surely its not available on any Haiku platform then?[01:23:40] <danboid> unless its a config option thing?[01:23:56] <jessicah`> I think it's just something to do with the multiarch thing[01:24:00] <jessicah`> it's nothing to worry about[01:24:55] <danboid> Yeah, I wasn't worried in this case but if I was doing my own complete Haiku build I'd want printing support[01:25:18] <jessicah`> you'd still get printing support iirc[01:25:29] <jessicah`> it'll say something similar about WebPositive[01:25:37] <danboid> it does[01:25:45] <danboid> and 2 more I think[01:25:49] <jessicah`> basically means out of the two architectures currently being built, it'll only build that target for one of them[01:25:58] <danboid> qrencode and another[01:26:02] <jessicah`> so it'll build for x86_gcc2 and not x86; and vice versa[01:30:10] *** danboid has quit IRC[01:31:37] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[01:40:02] *** danboid has joined #haiku[01:40:20] <danboid> jessicah`: Oh wow! It actually built! :D[01:41:22] <jessicah`> :)[01:41:35] <danboid> So how to install the thing now? I'm guessing I can't just copy the module any more in these days of package management can I?[01:41:49] <jessicah`> unfortunately not[01:42:06] <jessicah`> personally I just do pkgman upgrade to my newly built image[01:42:14] <jessicah`> err, pkgman install[01:42:33] <danboid> I run that where? Anywhere?[01:42:58] <danboid> install what where when? :)[01:43:30] <jessicah`> e.g. if your haiku repo is at /Data/haiku, then you'd run: pkgman install /Data/haiku/generated/objects/haiku/x86_gcc2/packaging/packages/*.hpkg[01:43:53] <danboid> Ah see![01:44:10] <jessicah`> that's how I test :)[01:44:17] <jessicah`> can always rollback using the boot menu[01:45:36] *** jessicah has quit IRC[01:45:50] *** oblo has joined #haiku[01:45:56] <danboid> problem 1: nothing provides lib:libicudata_x86>=55.1 needed by haiku_x86-r1~alpha4_pm_hrev49113-1[01:46:51] <danboid> Am I safe just to skip that?[01:47:19] <danboid> icu - wasn't that an IM protocol?[01:47:24] <jessicah`> yeah; you should be able to pkgman update after reboot to grab icu[01:47:29] <jessicah`> no, it's unicode stuff[01:47:33] <danboid> OK[01:48:24] <jessicah`> or you can pkgman update your running system first, so that ICU and friends get updated[01:48:28] <jessicah`> then install your built packages[01:49:24] <danboid> Iss there not a 'skip all'? I'm getting a lot of these missing package probs[01:49:40] <jessicah`> no skip all[01:49:51] <jessicah`> danboid: update your system normally first, then[01:49:59] <jessicah`> q to quit, then pkgman update[01:50:10] <jessicah`> after rebooting, install your built packages[01:50:17] <jessicah`> it should fix the dependencies[01:50:32] <danboid> I'm not sure what updating normally is under Haiku in 2015[01:50:41] <jessicah`> pkgman update[01:50:54] <danboid> Ah OK, thanks[01:51:08] <jessicah`> I should've put in `` to make it clearer :p[01:57:07] *** danboid has quit IRC[02:00:47] *** danboid has joined #haiku[02:01:01] <danboid> jessicah`, I dunt boot now :/[02:01:05] <danboid> it dunt[02:01:35] <danboid> Maybe I should've installed icu before I rebooted/[02:01:47] <danboid> ?[02:02:24] <danboid> or maybe I should've chose quit at the first packaging prob[02:04:10] <danboid> Do I now have to boot off a live stick, back up my altered source code then re-install Haiku or have you got spesh rescue tactics?[02:04:27] <danboid> I've tried safe mode etc with no joy[02:04:53] <danboid> and disabling all the stuff I have to when booting a fresh install[02:05:20] <danboid> Seems pretty fubar[02:05:33] <danboid> Fahoo[02:05:36] <danboid> Bahar[02:06:58] <danboid> jessicah`, Any tips for my next attempt?[02:07:32] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[02:07:40] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[02:07:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[02:07:53] <danboid> jessicah` vs the foobar chew bars :D[02:08:29] <danboid> That can be your band name :)[02:09:10] <jessicah`> danboid: in the boot menu, enter the choose volume to boot menu[02:09:20] <jessicah`> and in there, you can choose to boot from a previous version[02:09:43] <jessicah`> just boot from the previous, and you'll be back to where you were before you updated/installed anything[02:09:45] <danboid> jessicah`, Ohh! Thats a new one on me, yes. Will do! :)[02:09:57] <jessicah`> one of the advantages of our packaging system :)[02:09:58] <danboid> Thats coolasfook![02:10:20] <danboid> Lemme at it! ...[02:12:16] *** dan_ has joined #haiku[02:12:16] *** danboid has quit IRC[02:12:39] <dan_> jessicah`, Nope. Only one volume - 'Latest version'[02:12:40] *** dan_ is now known as Guest72360[02:13:26] *** Guest72360 is now known as danboid[02:13:48] <danboid> jessicah`, Nope. Only one volume - 'Latest version'[02:13:51] <jessicah`> yeah, then you press enter on that, and you should get a list[02:14:01] <danboid> jessicah`, doh[02:14:18] <danboid> I was push left and right on it I think[02:14:54] <danboid> OK so if I can get to an earlier volume, should I try updating again?[02:15:09] <jessicah`> yeah[02:15:21] <jessicah`> just do a normal update to latest nightly[02:16:06] *** epigraph has quit IRC[02:16:23] <danboid> If it doesn't pull n any updates, is it even worth tryng installing my packages again?[02:16:54] <danboid> I should manually install icu obviously[02:17:51] <jessicah`> are you on the latest nightly already?[02:18:12] <danboid> I installed the latest as of 3 days ago[02:18:14] <jessicah`> the other thing to do would be to update your haiku repo[02:18:47] <jessicah`> danboid: hmm, check which version of ICU you have installed[02:18:55] <jessicah`> you might still need to update[02:19:04] <jessicah`> as adrien only fixed the dependencies like a day or two ago[02:19:18] <danboid> OK[02:19:49] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has joined #haiku[02:23:34] *** danboid has quit IRC[02:27:08] *** jessicah has joined #haiku[02:27:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah[02:28:37] <jessicah> oops, got disconnected[02:28:39] *** oblo has quit IRC[02:30:10] *** danboid has joined #haiku[02:30:30] <danboid> jessicah: Yeah that volumes thing rocks hard[02:31:02] <danboid> So I'm back in and I notice that pkgman list-repos[02:31:05] <danboid> sez[02:31:19] <danboid> base-url: http://packages.haiku-os.org/haiku/master/x86_gcc2/r1~alpha4_pm_hrev49058[02:32:04] <danboid> could that be a prob?[02:32:58] <jessicah> maybe[02:33:23] <danboid> I've tried doing a `pkgman full-sync' but that did nowt[02:33:25] <jessicah> try set the last part to current and see if it fixes updating[02:33:38] *** orealis has quit IRC[02:34:16] <danboid> Where do I configure the repos?[02:34:41] <danboid> I'm totally new to Haiku package mgmt[02:35:22] <jessicah> see http://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/updating-system[02:38:29] *** orealis has joined #haiku[02:42:03] *** orealis_ has joined #haiku[02:43:19] *** danboid has quit IRC[02:54:05] *** pisculichi has quit IRC[02:54:05] *** pisculichi has joined #haiku[02:54:38] *** danboid has joined #haiku[02:55:44] <danboid> jessicah: My mind has just left the building! I've just ported a wifi driver to Haiku with your help! :D[02:55:54] <danboid> IT WORKS! :D[02:57:14] <danboid> I shall have to get the patch uploaded but not tonight - its waaay past my bedtime but it was WELL worth it! :)[02:58:09] <danboid> I've learned a lot about Haiku in the process and I just like it even more now[03:08:34] <danboid> jessicah: Thanks v.much![03:09:27] *** danboid has quit IRC[03:11:45] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[03:18:19] *** ledNaro has quit IRC[03:27:03] *** Nach0z has joined #haiku[03:50:15] <Carl_Miller> :([04:02:36] *** _marc` has quit IRC[04:16:11] *** y___schil has joined #haiku[04:16:52] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[04:19:06] *** ___schily has quit IRC[04:22:21] *** DFerg has quit IRC[04:22:29] *** qNemo has quit IRC[04:24:21] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[04:25:34] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[04:29:04] *** dr_evil_ has quit IRC[04:55:22] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has quit IRC[05:01:59] <HAIKU-irker005> jessicah-github.efi.master: [1 commit] https://github.com/jessicah/haiku/compare/e7ee900a9632...f0d6797c6bdc[05:02:00] <HAIKU-irker005> f0d6797c6bdc: UEFI: add init_smp() code[05:40:23] <Carl_Miller> G’night all *hug*[05:46:03] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[06:07:52] *** venture37 has quit IRC[06:09:02] *** venture37 has joined #haiku[06:09:26] *** venture37 is now known as Guest19380[06:17:28] *** Guest19380 has quit IRC[06:17:58] *** venture38 has joined #haiku[06:26:34] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[06:40:45] *** venture38 has quit IRC[06:40:59] *** venture38 has joined #haiku[06:48:00] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[07:01:21] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[07:14:19] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[07:44:34] *** [Beta] has joined #haiku[07:45:42] *** oblo has joined #haiku[07:46:29] *** johndrinkwater has quit IRC[07:46:54] *** tqh has joined #haiku[07:46:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[07:50:08] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[08:00:03] <bbjimmy> no sound[08:00:09] <bbjimmy> :([08:00:34] <bbjimmy> 49123[08:02:40] *** Sqt has quit 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notify[08:14:04] <bbjimmy> KERN: AudioMixer: Dequeued input buffer 3967 usec late[08:14:04] <bbjimmy> KERN: AudioMixer: sending notify[08:14:35] <bbjimmy> and on and on in the syslog[08:16:18] *** tqh has quit IRC[08:17:04] <bbjimmy> getting late ... past my bed time ... gnight[08:17:13] <humdinger> cya[08:19:27] *** redblue has quit IRC[08:21:28] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[08:24:12] *** redblue has joined #haiku[08:28:24] *** jjido has quit IRC[08:38:10] *** axeld has joined #haiku[08:38:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[08:51:23] *** NeonLicht has joined #haiku[09:13:28] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[09:20:30] *** leszek has joined #haiku[09:23:51] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[09:26:27] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[09:26:55] *** stippi has joined #haiku[09:26:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:36:22] *** GeneralDuke has joined #haiku[09:42:23] *** bitkid_ has joined #haiku[09:43:19] *** bitkid has quit IRC[10:08:50] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[10:09:35] *** humdinger has quit IRC[10:22:24] *** bitkid__ has joined #haiku[10:22:25] *** stippi1 has joined #haiku[10:22:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi1[10:24:03] *** stippi has quit IRC[10:24:16] *** bitkid_ has quit IRC[10:24:26] *** worfox has quit IRC[10:24:36] *** worfox has joined #haiku[11:02:08] *** Akuji has quit IRC[11:02:35] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[11:14:02] <schily> jessicah: the timezone on the Haiku installation was ot changed and is GMT[11:14:47] <jessicah> okay[11:15:30] <schily> there is a simple test for the problem:[11:16:39] *** _3dEyes has joined #haiku[11:16:40] <schily> write a program, initialize a time_t to -31536000, convert it to a struct tm using localtime(), then convert it back to a time_t using mktime()[11:16:44] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[11:17:07] <schily> there is a one second offset after both conversions[11:17:14] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[11:20:46] <jessicah> yeah I already have a test case attached to a ticket[11:21:19] <schily> this one or a different one?[11:21:24] <jessicah> I ran into a similar issue with the boost regression test[11:21:46] <jessicah> test suite[11:21:51] <schily> so it seems that regression tests are important[11:22:04] <jessicah> yup[11:23:15] <schily> if this was fixed in haiku, then the SCCS test suite will completely pass (except for the tests that try to fool SCCS using hard linked files)[11:24:00] <schily> but this are just test cases that try to check error situations that cannot happen when there is no support for hard links[11:34:32] <jessicah> yeah[11:35:11] <jessicah> I've looked at the implementation, but don't know how to address the issue[11:35:58] <jessicah> especially since it relies on ICU to do most of the work[11:39:58] *** epigraph has joined #haiku[11:41:01] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[11:42:19] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[11:42:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o pdziepak[11:45:40] *** [Beta] is now known as johndrinkwater[11:45:56] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[11:46:30] <schily> what do you call ICU?[11:54:43] <schily> BTW: where is the implementation?[11:56:48] <jessicah> international components for Unicode[12:02:52] *** nighty-_ has joined #haiku[12:04:20] *** Luko has joined #haiku[12:06:38] <schily> so you are taking about the i18n parts?[12:07:41] <jessicah> https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/master/src/system/libroot/add-ons/icu/ICUTimeConversion.cpp[12:08:11] <schily> this is no problem to understand the code as such code may only be part of strftime() strptime() ... but not prt of the real localtime()/mktime() implementation.[12:09:08] *** Luko has quit IRC[12:09:50] <jessicah> Haiku's mktime goes via ICU[12:10:37] *** Luko has joined #haiku[12:12:19] <schily> this looks like a haiku specific part[12:12:35] <schily> BTW: dies haiku try to deal with leap seconds?[12:13:10] <jessicah> I don't know[12:13:17] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[12:13:42] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[12:13:46] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[12:14:04] <Diver> there are tests for mktime btw https://github.com/haiku/haiku/commit/560b10ff88d306ac6e6f8f76eafc61df94f941d6[12:14:26] *** Luko_ has joined #haiku[12:14:51] <schily> given the fact that a one second offset cannot be explained with usual time compuations, I would try to check for leap second support[12:14:52] *** Luko has quit IRC[12:17:29] <schily> Diver: the test only uses a single positive value[12:17:40] <schily> the problem is related to a negatice valus[12:17:57] <Diver> ok[12:18:45] <schily> given the fact that POSIX mentions the time range from 1969...2068, it makes sense to start testing at 1969 01 01 00:00:00[12:19:21] <schily> if you run the SCCS regression tests, the positive time range has no problem[12:21:31] *** isak- has joined #haiku[12:22:02] *** isak- has quit IRC[12:23:48] *** BitPuffin|osx has joined #haiku[12:24:52] *** Luko_ has quit IRC[12:25:32] *** Luko has joined #haiku[12:28:59] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[12:30:27] *** danboid has joined #haiku[12:30:39] *** js- 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After running "git format-patch" I was expecting some patch files to appear but thatys not the case[12:32:04] *** venture37 is now known as Guest57044[12:32:07] *** hagen has joined #haiku[12:33:03] *** Guest57044 has quit IRC[12:33:03] *** Guest57044 has joined #haiku[12:33:03] *** Guest57044 is now known as venture37[12:33:25] <danboid> "git commit -a" seemed to find the right files that I patched[12:33:31] *** js has quit IRC[12:33:31] *** shroud has quit IRC[12:33:32] *** js- is now known as js[12:33:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o js[12:34:09] *** DingoSaar has quit IRC[12:34:55] *** shroud_ has joined #haiku[12:35:08] <axeld> danboid: you need to commit locally to be able to call format-patch on that commit (or several)[12:35:44] <danboid> axeld: I think I did that with "git commit -a", no?[12:36:10] <pdziepak> danboid: git format-patch needs also the commit range or the last commit you don't want to generate patch for[12:36:17] <pdziepak> try git format-patch origin[12:36:55] <pdziepak> that should genrate patches for all commits that are not in the main repo[12:38:19] <danboid> pdziepak: Thats done it! Thanks! Shouldn't https://www.haiku-os.org/development/faq#patches be updated to suggest using that command instead?[12:43:28] *** Luko has quit IRC[12:44:20] <pdziepak> danboid: done[12:45:54] <danboid> pdziepak: Thanks![12:46:39] <danboid> I've uploaded my patch to add support for the Centrino 2230 https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12006[12:50:08] <schily> You may also try to call: "TZ=GMT date". This reports 0 0 0 1900[12:50:18] <jessicah> danboid: did you also add the new files?[12:50:37] <jessicah> git commit -a won't include new files[12:50:55] <danboid> jessicah: Firmware? That is already included in the existing Haiku tree[12:51:05] <danboid> Why? I dunno but it was[12:51:14] <jessicah> hmm okay[12:51:27] <jessicah> that's good then :)[12:51:37] <danboid> I'll add that as a note to the ticket[12:52:02] <danboid> jessicah: THanks for your help last night! I learned a lot about Haiku in the process[12:52:31] <jessicah> you're most welcome[12:53:52] <danboid> :)[12:58:37] *** danboid has quit IRC[13:05:56] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[13:09:15] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[13:10:45] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[13:18:29] <OmniMancer> n[13:22:24] *** BitPuffin|osx has quit IRC[13:35:09] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[13:40:12] *** Akuji has quit IRC[13:40:38] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[13:44:03] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[13:45:25] *** Akuji has quit IRC[14:25:15] *** happy-dude has joined #haiku[14:35:51] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[14:53:07] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[15:02:21] *** pisculichi has quit IRC[15:02:45] *** pisculichi has joined #haiku[15:04:13] *** _marc` has quit IRC[15:15:15] *** orealis has quit IRC[15:16:01] *** orealis has joined #haiku[16:02:50] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[16:04:40] *** pjub has joined #haiku[16:07:40] *** epigraph has quit IRC[16:08:03] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: threedeyes * hrev49125 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=484f1b37f50f+%5E040029e0b8d4[16:08:04] <HAIKU-irker005> 484f1b37f50f: Added LibreCAD and Marble packages for x86_gcc2[16:08:38] *** _3dEyes has quit IRC[16:12:44] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[16:12:56] *** itPuffinB has joined #haiku[16:14:57] <Akuji> жаль только, что на официальных страницах проектов нет новостей о портировании на Гайку[16:17:19] <Akuji> sorry, wrong chat[16:22:25] *** itPuffinB is now known as BitPuffin[16:32:16] *** AlexStraunoff has quit IRC[16:34:34] *** AlexStraunoff has joined #haiku[16:41:01] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[16:41:33] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[16:43:34] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[17:05:38] *** pvalue54 has joined #haiku[17:09:41] *** pvalue54 has quit IRC[17:10:06] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[17:10:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:10:08] *** luroh has joined #haiku[17:26:27] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[17:29:06] *** Akuji has quit IRC[17:29:09] *** avril14th has quit IRC[17:31:25] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[17:34:46] *** GeneralDuke has quit IRC[17:35:32] *** humdinger has quit IRC[17:35:42] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[17:35:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:39:17] <bbjimmy> from https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/pull-request/522/yab-1745-yab-ide-2244/diff "I suppose one want to call fixattributes.sh in the current directory, not on the PATH. "./fixattributes.sh" is then the way to go." I don't know what this even means, any help?[17:40:04] *** Akuji has quit IRC[17:40:23] <bbjimmy> It seems like they are picking nits here.[17:41:51] <humdinger> bbjimmy: I guess it means that if you want to make sure that the "fixattributes.sh" of the current directory is used, you should use ./fixattributes.sh.[17:43:01] *** pjub has quit IRC[17:43:43] *** rkbm has quit IRC[17:43:56] <bbjimmy> I just copied fixattributes.sh to the directory and was never in the src directory to have any confusion.[17:44:28] <Diver> well, when in chroot we're in controllable environment, so it shouldn't be really a problem[17:44:38] <bbjimmy> this is indeed picking nits for no reason.[17:44:54] <Diver> more like precaution...[17:45:32] <bbjimmy> it could just as easilly run the wrong makefile.[17:45:45] *** stippi has joined #haiku[17:45:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[17:45:55] <bbjimmy> ie no precaution needed[17:47:22] *** stippi1 has quit IRC[17:48:01] <bbjimmy> fixattributes.sh is never in the PATH[17:50:15] *** epigraph has joined #haiku[17:50:39] *** Dane__ has quit IRC[17:51:01] *** happy-dude has joined #haiku[17:51:01] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[17:51:45] *** rkbm has joined #haiku[17:51:56] *** Dane has quit IRC[17:52:39] *** Dane has joined #haiku[17:52:59] *** tqh has joined #haiku[17:52:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[17:57:42] *** leszek has quit IRC[17:58:58] *** leszek has joined #haiku[18:01:46] <bbjimmy> BeShare is broken ... runtime_loader: /boot/system/apps/BeShare/BeShare: Could not resolve symbol '_ZNK7BRoster6LaunchEPKciPPcPl'[18:02:10] <bbjimmy> hrev 49123[18:16:06] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[18:16:41] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[18:16:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[18:30:02] <Diver> bbjimmy: yes, need to rebuild it[18:44:10] <bbjimmy> It shouldn't be so easy to break things with PM, BeShare v 2.2.8 still runs properly.[18:44:39] *** shroud_ has quit IRC[18:44:40] *** shroud_ has joined #haiku[18:44:42] *** shroud_ is now known as shroud[18:45:09] *** Dane has quit IRC[18:46:45] *** Dane has joined #haiku[18:48:30] *** simpbrain has joined #haiku[18:50:15] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[18:50:56] *** Dane has quit IRC[19:01:04] *** Dane has joined #haiku[19:03:56] *** Dane_ has quit IRC[19:05:49] <bbjimmy> I suggest using a better icon for .hpkg files. I use http://yab.orgfree.com/img/Misc_Package.png on my system. much more inviting.[19:09:46] *** brobostigon has quit IRC[19:10:19] *** brobostigon has joined #haiku[19:11:21] *** ir2ivps8_ has quit IRC[19:14:32] *** Dane has quit IRC[19:16:24] *** Max-Might has joined #haiku[19:21:50] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has quit IRC[19:22:13] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has joined #haiku[19:22:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-Buildbot[19:22:15] *** leszek has quit IRC[19:25:36] *** AlexStraunoff is now known as Sqt[19:33:21] <mmu_man> bbjimmy: you can always propose it on the mailing list[19:33:23] <waddlesplash> bbjimmy: That has nothing to do with PM; it has to do with the new BeShare using an unstable API (BRoster).[19:33:34] <mmu_man> although it's still a special kind of archive, so the current icon is quite logical[19:33:49] <waddlesplash> mmu_man: Yeah, I prefer the status quo.[19:34:15] <mmu_man> the blue one reminds me of the old .pkg files though[19:34:25] <waddlesplash> well[19:34:32] <waddlesplash> the HVIF for old .pkg files is still brown[19:34:38] <waddlesplash> it's the PackageInstaller icon that's blue[19:35:37] *** ir2ivps8_ has joined #haiku[19:38:21] <luroh> as an exercise, i tried to build beshare using haikuporter but didn't succeed, got stuck on something muscle related, i believe[19:38:36] <bbjimmy> A brown package looks like something you aren't supposed to open in public, the blue one looks like a package that is just waiting to be opened.[19:38:48] <luroh> (that said, i hardly know anything about haikuporter)[19:39:33] <bbjimmy> more like a gift[19:39:36] <waddlesplash> luroh: yes, there was a MUSCLE upgrade recently. The recipe should never have been made in the first place.[19:39:46] <waddlesplash> BeShare at HaikuArchives is severely broken.[19:39:51] <luroh> ah, that would explain it[19:43:29] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[19:45:32] *** epigraph has quit IRC[19:48:21] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[19:48:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh2[19:52:15] *** tqh has quit IRC[19:53:35] *** tqh2 is now known as tqh[19:56:12] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[19:56:46] *** PasNox has quit IRC[19:57:01] *** humdinger has quit IRC[19:58:36] *** ir2ivps8_ has quit IRC[20:09:59] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[20:09:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jua_[20:16:46] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: korli * hrev49126 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=52664df71884+%5E484f1b37f50f[20:16:47] <HAIKU-irker005> 52664df71884: Update curl packages.[20:17:05] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[20:17:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PulkoMandy[20:20:03] *** simpbrain has quit IRC[20:21:48] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[20:21:53] *** PlkMndy has joined #haiku[20:21:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PlkMndy[20:24:52] *** ir2ivps8_ has joined #haiku[20:35:13] *** oblo has quit IRC[20:39:17] *** oblo has joined #haiku[20:42:30] <bbjimmy> Take a look: http://haikuware.com[20:43:38] *** simpbrain has joined #haiku[20:47:49] <puckipedia> huh[20:48:05] <PlkMndy> website doesn't render properly in Web+ and crashes Qupzilla[20:48:10] <PlkMndy> sounds like a good start :D[20:48:12] <puckipedia> :D[20:48:23] <puckipedia> it's a google web form thing[20:48:57] <puckipedia> PlkMndy: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bbc976f44509d473c066[20:49:39] <PlkMndy> works in NetSurf :)[20:49:47] <puckipedia> hmm[20:50:02] <puckipedia> memberships seem to be paid[20:50:03] <Max-Might> is this Pe's official repository? https://github.com/olta/pe[20:50:12] <PlkMndy> Max-Might: yes[20:50:42] <PlkMndy> puckipedia: yes, this is one worry for me. People without money may have a say on it, or at least that's my point of view[20:50:57] <PlkMndy> but I'll watch their progress and see what happens[20:51:07] <PlkMndy> (and merge the changes to haiku if they make changes ;))[20:51:11] <puckipedia> :P[20:51:14] <puckipedia> also, the site is broken here too partially[20:51:18] <Max-Might> cool, I just got rust syntax highlighting done for pe :)[20:51:30] <puckipedia> it's an iframe inside a page but height isn't set properly[20:51:47] <puckipedia> correction: it's a hard-coded height[20:53:55] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49127 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1894a24358be+%5E52664df71884[20:53:57] <HAIKU-irker005> 5de22b9bf661: BLocker: make "unlock from wrong thread" only a warning.[20:53:58] <HAIKU-irker005> 1894a24358be: Add support for Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230.[20:57:16] *** PlkMndy is now known as PkMn[20:58:37] *** Carl_Miller has quit IRC[21:00:50] *** PkMn is now known as PulkoMandy[21:02:36] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1687 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/1687 blamelist: Adrien Destugues <pulkomandy at gmail dot com>, Dan MacDonald <allcoms at gmail dot com>[21:03:18] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49128 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7c52cca9386e+%5E1894a24358be[21:03:19] <HAIKU-irker005> 7c52cca9386e: Build fix.[21:03:47] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1673 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/1673 blamelist: Adrien Destugues <pulkomandy at gmail dot com>, Dan MacDonald <allcoms at gmail dot com>[21:04:06] <luroh> thanks, built fine now[21:04:07] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1679 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/1679 blamelist: Adrien Destugues <pulkomandy at gmail dot com>, Dan MacDonald <allcoms at gmail dot com>[21:04:41] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1641 of haiku-master-x86 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86/builds/1641 blamelist: Adrien Destugues <pulkomandy at gmail dot com>, Dan MacDonald <allcoms at gmail dot com>[21:24:26] *** stargater has joined #haiku[21:25:46] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1680 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/1680[21:31:47] *** stargate1 has joined #haiku[21:32:26] *** stargater has quit IRC[21:34:46] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1674 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/1674[21:35:07] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1702 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/1702 blamelist: J?r?me Duval <jerome.duval at gmail dot com>[21:36:46] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[21:37:19] *** mikaelj has quit IRC[21:38:13] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1688 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/1688[21:38:43] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1642 of haiku-master-x86 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86/builds/1642[21:42:09] *** Nekron_dev has joined #haiku[21:49:17] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[21:51:53] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[21:52:47] *** stargate1 has quit IRC[21:54:53] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[21:56:40] *** Max-Might has quit IRC[21:56:59] *** Nekron_dev has quit IRC[21:57:23] *** DFergFLA has joined #haiku[21:57:48] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[21:58:22] <DFergFLA> hello all, I am still trying to work on the issue I reported with playing media files. http://www.haiku-os.org/community/forum/media_player_not_playing_anything[21:58:33] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[21:58:37] *** HaikuUser is now known as BootZ[21:58:46] <DFergFLA> Is there anyone here on irc that can help me with resetting my password on trac so I can log a defect?[21:59:33] <BootZ> hello there. Can anyone tell me which file to alter to add disable_local_apic (or something like that) default to the boot sequence?[21:59:56] <BootZ> now I ned to shift into options and set it every boot[22:00:48] <luroh> DFergFLA: from a cursory look, it looks like you need to update your haiku installation[22:00:58] <luroh> https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/updating-system[22:01:26] <DFergFLA> how updated does it need to be? I installed a clean install from the latest nightly.[22:01:33] <DFergFLA> that was yesterday[22:01:43] <DFergFLA> so the install has to be less then 24hours old?[22:01:48] <luroh> it needs to be newer than that to get the latest ffmpeg[22:02:17] <PulkoMandy> BootZ: probably home/config/settings/system/kernel/drivers/kernel ?[22:02:17] <luroh> hrev49114 or later[22:02:30] <DFergFLA> ok here is where frustration is setting in. I downloaded the latesest build, from 4/27. This is less then 24 hours old and I am old that it is too old???[22:02:57] <luroh> good thing you can just update it then :)[22:02:58] <PulkoMandy> (you can check which revision you have in AboutSystem)[22:03:28] <PulkoMandy> beware that the ffmpeg update may not be done automatically, use "pkgman update ffmpeg" to force it[22:03:53] <DFergFLA> ok "pkman update ffmpeg" I will do that.[22:03:57] *** stargater has joined #haiku[22:04:18] <BootZ> @PulkoMandy That is my impression also but what is the correct entry?[22:05:07] <luroh> not sure it's possible to disable local apic in that file[22:05:12] *** DFergFLA has quit IRC[22:06:58] *** BootZ has quit IRC[22:16:03] *** axeld has quit IRC[22:20:49] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[22:23:42] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49129 [3 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4b4a2b684ca3+%5E7c52cca9386e[22:23:43] <HAIKU-irker005> 7dc68bfba5c7: iso9660: fix PVS 2430 to 2435.[22:23:44] <HAIKU-irker005> ad077e2bd2b9: SpiderSaver: PVS 2044.[22:23:45] <HAIKU-irker005> 4b4a2b684ca3: Collectcatkeys: PVS1632: unsafe fprintf (harmless).[22:24:31] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[22:25:04] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[22:28:56] *** hagen has quit IRC[22:29:01] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[22:29:18] *** BootZ has joined #haiku[22:30:17] <BootZ> Hello, anyone knows the correct syntax for the kernel file (~/home/settings/kernel/drivers/kernel) to add local_apic=false?[22:30:24] *** bbraun_ has joined #haiku[22:30:34] <BootZ> or is that a not existing keyword?[22:30:43] *** bbraun_ has quit IRC[22:30:43] *** bbraun_ has joined #haiku[22:31:02] *** bbraun has quit IRC[22:31:05] *** bbraun_ is now known as bbraun[22:31:17] <luroh> BootZ: looks like there is no such setting available: http://grok.bikemonkey.org/source/xref/haiku/headers/private/system/safemode_defs.h[22:31:41] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[22:32:20] <BootZ> @luroh: Okay, thanks. Then I will need to boot with safe mode? Damn[22:33:05] <luroh> unless you can find some other combo that let's you boot, i'm afraid so[22:33:12] <luroh> lets*[22:33:36] <BootZ> @luroh, thanks for the link! I will fiddle around :-p[22:34:02] <luroh> fiddle away, fix it 'til it breaks :)[22:34:21] *** BootZ has quit IRC[22:36:24] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[22:36:26] *** BootZ has joined #haiku[22:37:08] <HaikuUser> @luroh: It seems to be the disable_apic without something like local or just an l...[22:37:10] <HaikuUser> thanks![22:38:24] *** BootZ has quit IRC[22:38:25] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[22:39:27] *** soakbot has quit IRC[22:39:42] *** soakbot has joined #haiku[22:39:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[22:41:52] *** freakazoid0223 has left #haiku[22:44:43] *** DFergFLA has joined #haiku[22:44:56] <DFergFLA> is pulkomandy still here?[22:46:28] <bbjimmy> DFergFLA doesn't look like it.[22:46:49] *** vdamewood has joined #haiku[22:47:46] *** DFergFLA has quit IRC[22:48:21] *** DFergFLA has joined #haiku[22:48:47] *** DFergFLA has quit IRC[22:51:42] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[22:51:55] *** HaikuUser is now known as BootZ[22:56:30] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[22:57:12] *** epigraph has joined #haiku[22:59:23] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[23:07:28] *** simpbrain has quit IRC[23:11:32] *** DingoSaar has joined #haiku[23:13:28] *** stargater has quit IRC[23:13:30] *** BootZ has quit IRC[23:17:34] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[23:18:15] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[23:18:17] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:22:59] *** pisculichi has quit IRC[23:23:00] *** pisculichi has joined #haiku[23:47:51] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[23:48:46] <Anarchos> texlive is on the roads again.[23:49:21] <Anarchos> still some bug, but i will soon have a recipe good enough to share.[23:50:10] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[23:52:53] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[23:52:55] *** jua_ has quit IRC[23:53:51] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[23:55:21] *** danboid has joined #haiku[23:55:53] <danboid> Does Haiku support usb joypads?[23:55:54] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[23:56:08] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[23:56:26] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[23:56:39] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[23:56:50] <jessicah`> danboid: I believe it does[23:57:00] <danboid> jessicah`: Hi![23:57:09] <jessicah`> good morning danboid :)[23:57:25] <jessicah`> I see your patch got merged :) awesome[23:57:30] <danboid> jessicah`: I don't see ant config tool for them in the prefs menu[23:57:51] <danboid> jessicah`: Yeah! I'm really quite pleased about that![23:58:12] <jessicah`> danboid: hmm, I'm sure there was some support for it; maybe I'm remembering incorrectly[23:58:26] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[23:58:28] <jessicah`> or maybe it's just not very advanced[23:59:42] <danboid> I've got SDL installed but it doesn't seem to include any dev headers/ includes etc. Is that the case for all libs in depot?