April 26, 2015 
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April 26, 2015 [00:04:09] *** epigraph has joined #haiku[00:05:12] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[00:06:00] <bbjimmy> I tried to update again, it said " nothing to do" ... still at 48852.[00:06:54] *** Max-Might has quit IRC[00:08:31] <jessicah> you can use full-sync to see what it wants to remove[00:08:33] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[00:09:10] <bbjimmy> bash: full: command not found[00:09:34] <jessicah> pkgman full-sync[00:09:35] <jessicah> :p[00:11:47] <bbjimmy> problem 1: nothing provides lib:libstdc++.r4 needed by libqt4_x86-4.8.6.4-2[00:13:43] *** Zevs has joined #haiku[00:14:53] <bbjimmy> wants to un-install QupZilla[00:16:06] *** nighty-_ has quit IRC[00:19:04] *** Bodhi has quit IRC[00:19:18] *** Poca has quit IRC[00:20:48] <jessicah> odd[00:22:37] *** jessicah` has joined #haiku[00:22:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah`[00:23:38] <bbjimmy> that was the last commit ... libqt4_x86-4.8.6.4-2[00:24:31] <bbjimmy> trying now to go to 49111 and see if it works[00:26:18] <bbjimmy> Nothing to do.[00:26:25] <bbjimmy> :([00:27:05] <bbjimmy> problem 1: package libqt4_x86-4.8.6.4-1 requires lib:libicuuc_x86>=54.1, but none of the providers can be installed[00:27:05] <bbjimmy> solution 1:[00:27:06] <bbjimmy> - allow deinstallation of qupzilla_x86-1.7.x-4[00:28:50] <bbjimmy> we seem to be broken[00:29:02] <jessicah`> yep :([00:29:39] <bbjimmy> What was the last hrev that Web+ worked on?[00:30:02] <jessicah`> I don't remember, quite a few ago[00:30:16] <jessicah`> I used full-sync to upgrade and ditch web+ and qupzilla :p[00:30:23] <jessicah`> so only have NetSurf[00:30:44] <bbjimmy> I need to test something with web+[00:30:45] <jessicah`> it's the commit prior to libcda package iirc[00:30:56] <bbjimmy> ok[00:33:36] <jessicah`> hmm, seems I got that wrong[00:33:39] <bbjimmy> trying hrev49081[00:33:41] <jessicah`> libdca[00:34:05] <jessicah`> so hrev49082 should work[00:36:13] <bbjimmy> so i'll try hrev49082[00:38:07] <bbjimmy> At least it's trying to update.[00:38:36] <bbjimmy> Downloading haiku-r1~alpha4_pm_hrev49082-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg :)[00:44:57] <jessicah`> :)[00:46:27] *** jessicah` has quit IRC[00:47:11] <bbjimmy> re-booting[00:48:12] *** jessicah` has joined #haiku[00:48:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah`[00:48:50] <bbjimmy> it had an error :P[00:48:58] <bbjimmy> trying again[00:50:22] <bbjimmy> failed to add system packages to system repository: Invalid Argument[00:51:18] <bbjimmy> re-booting anyway to see if it really worked or I'm hozed[00:51:26] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[00:51:57] *** tqh has quit IRC[00:54:29] *** Vidiot_ has quit IRC[00:54:39] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[00:54:53] <bbjimmy> YAY Web+ runs ...[00:54:58] <bbjimmy> :)[00:55:27] *** Vidiot_ has joined #haiku[00:56:13] <jessicah`> :)[00:59:02] <bbjimmy> hmm it un-installed QupZilla[00:59:28] <bbjimmy> trying to install from haikudepot[01:04:16] <bbjimmy> QupZilla installed and runs. it kept my bookmarks ... I guess they are in ~/config/settings[01:05:37] <bbjimmy> hmmm yab is installed and running from a local repo, but doesn't show in haikudepot.[01:09:43] <bbjimmy> I started a new yab forum and lik=nked to it from yab-IDE, but left the haikuware yab forum link, hoping it returns.[01:12:00] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[01:16:51] *** hmstrmn has quit IRC[01:24:36] <bbjimmy> new yab version on-line at http://yab.orgfree.com/[01:30:47] *** oblo has joined #haiku[01:33:07] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[01:34:05] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[01:39:49] *** Diver1 has joined #haiku[01:39:49] *** Diver has quit IRC[01:44:11] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[02:01:09] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[02:02:05] *** earthnat1ve has joined #haiku[02:02:16] *** earthnative has quit IRC[02:07:07] <waddlesplash> "problem 1: nothing provides lib:libstdc++.r4 needed by libqt4_x86-4.8.6.4-2"[02:07:13] <waddlesplash> grr[02:09:11] *** earthnat1ve is now known as earthnative[02:11:07] <mmu_man> x86 ?[02:11:13] <mmu_man> the .r4 one is a gcc2 lib[02:11:25] <waddlesplash> mmu_man: yes, qt has 1 gcc2binary for creating Deskbar widgets[02:11:31] <mmu_man> ah ok[02:11:41] <mmu_man> so you use a gcc4 hybrid[02:11:43] <waddlesplash> but the real issue is no PHP rebuild :/[02:11:45] <waddlesplash> yes, well[02:11:52] <waddlesplash> let's get R1 out the door and nuke GCC2 :p[02:15:12] *** Zevs has quit IRC[02:15:14] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[02:16:50] *** Vidiot_ has quit IRC[02:29:01] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[02:32:02] *** oblo has quit IRC[02:32:56] *** _3dEyes has joined #haiku[02:41:36] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #320 of haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/320[02:43:51] *** Guest28886 has quit IRC[02:48:44] *** happy-dude has joined #haiku[02:50:55] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[03:01:51] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[03:10:45] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[03:29:12] *** Vidiot_ has joined #haiku[03:31:49] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #50 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2-debug is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2-debug/builds/50[03:41:17] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #48 of haiku-master-x86_64-debug is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64-debug/builds/48[03:46:04] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #53 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid-debug is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid-debug/builds/53[03:51:02] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #48 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid-debug is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid-debug/builds/48[03:52:34] *** _3dEyes has quit IRC[03:58:32] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[03:58:40] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[03:58:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[03:59:33] *** ir2ivps8 has quit IRC[03:59:36] *** redblue has quit IRC[03:59:41] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #49 of haiku-master-x86-debug is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86-debug/builds/49[03:59:59] *** redblue has joined #haiku[04:00:01] *** ir2ivps8_ has joined #haiku[04:00:24] *** Plazma has quit IRC[04:00:34] *** Plazma has joined #haiku[04:05:16] *** epigraph has quit IRC[04:18:09] *** __schily_ has joined #haiku[04:21:30] *** _schily__ has quit IRC[04:27:50] *** dr_evil has joined #haiku[04:31:49] *** dr_evil_ has quit IRC[04:52:44] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[04:52:57] *** HaikuUser is now known as ASmith42[04:56:10] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[05:06:37] *** ASmith42 has left #haiku[05:06:55] *** Vidiot_ has quit IRC[05:25:15] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[05:26:27] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[05:34:24] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[05:34:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[05:35:04] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[05:35:11] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[05:35:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[05:45:39] <Carl_Miller> G'night all *hug*[05:54:22] *** Vidiot_ has joined #haiku[06:57:25] *** Vidiot_ has quit IRC[06:59:04] *** humdinger has quit IRC[07:01:37] *** leftist has joined #haiku[07:01:58] <leftist> morning. i was wondeirng if tunetracker is included as a demo in haiku?[07:09:46] <bbjimmy> no, the TuneTracker demo is on their yab usb stick distro ... http://www.discoverhaiku.com/[07:18:56] *** kafkaz_ has quit IRC[07:19:26] *** kafkaz_ has joined #haiku[07:20:54] <leftist> thanks bbjimmy[07:21:56] <leftist> bbimmy is haiku related to beos or zeta in design?[07:32:13] <HAIKU-irker005> jessicah-github.efi.master: [5 commits] https://github.com/jessicah/haiku/compare/d6042b383ff8...e7ee900a9632[07:32:14] <HAIKU-irker005> 270d4ee69374: UEFI: fix which arch_string/cpuid to use[07:32:15] <HAIKU-irker005> fd14d3fb7dfe: UEFI: define _BOOT_PLATFORM_$(TARGET_BOOT_PLATFORM)[07:32:16] <HAIKU-irker005> c42ca43dd893: bootloader: only pass -std=c++11 for UEFI[07:32:17] <HAIKU-irker005> 931283c1b2e4: UEFI: initial implementation of mmu_map_physical_memory[07:32:18] <HAIKU-irker005> e7ee900a9632: UEFI: an attempt at HPET support, testing out ACPI a bit more[07:48:06] *** kcj has joined #haiku[07:50:32] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[07:50:42] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[07:50:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[08:01:17] *** leftist has quit IRC[08:01:32] *** leftist has joined #haiku[08:04:15] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[08:04:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PulkoMandy[08:06:52] *** Vidiot_ has joined #haiku[08:07:50] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[08:07:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:16:38] *** tqh has joined #haiku[08:16:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[08:28:43] *** leftist has quit IRC[08:42:42] *** vooshy has joined #haiku[08:50:13] *** kcj has quit IRC[08:52:32] *** 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hrev49113 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a8ee0de7ea59+%5Eeb5fc5a7c10a[10:52:13] <HAIKU-irker005> a8ee0de7ea59: Make qt4 package installable again.[10:58:10] *** Max-Might has joined #haiku[11:01:50] *** leftist has quit IRC[11:06:33] <rNyhus> New community guide: http://www.haiku-os.org/community/getting-involved/developing[11:16:15] *** Vidiot_ has quit IRC[11:16:45] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[11:17:14] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[11:18:49] <PulkoMandy> rNyhus: mh... I'm not sure about this 2nd party/3rd party distinction[11:19:23] <PulkoMandy> it just happens that some apps have a development team highly overlapping (or even included in) the haiku core devs team, but does that make a difference?[11:21:42] <PulkoMandy> some outdated info as well[11:21:55] <PulkoMandy> http://www.haiku-os.org/community/getting-involved/developing/core#drivers > Joystick/Gamepads already work with the USB HID driver, can be removed[11:22:09] <PulkoMandy> TTY Layer is done as well, serial ports work fine now[11:22:17] <PulkoMandy> same for LibUSB[11:24:17] <PulkoMandy> http://www.haiku-os.org/community/getting-involved/developing/applications > "Merge CD player into MediaPlayer" is probably not needed[11:24:32] <PulkoMandy> (you can just drag the mounted CD on MediaPlayer and it will play just fine)[11:26:11] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[11:29:38] *** Zevs has quit IRC[11:30:12] *** pemdp has joined #haiku[11:30:26] <pemdp> Hello[11:35:24] <humdinger> hullo[11:36:20] *** Akuji has quit IRC[11:38:06] *** Max-Might has quit IRC[11:41:34] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[11:45:45] *** nighty-_ has joined #haiku[11:58:55] *** Mazon has quit IRC[12:05:39] *** Mazon has joined #haiku[12:11:00] *** oblo has joined #haiku[12:21:26] *** humdinger has quit IRC[12:26:27] <rNyhus> @PulkoMandy: (Sorry got phone call) I only recently realised that I copied ideas from the outdated 2014 GSOC page, as the 2015 page was not listed on the main GSOC page.[12:27:12] <PulkoMandy> that explains it[12:27:26] <PulkoMandy> well, most of the ideas are the same, there are a few outdated ones and a few new ones as well[12:29:48] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[12:29:50] <rNyhus> I will remove the 2nd party stuff. You are right, it doesn't make sense for post-pm Haiku.[12:33:07] *** NumberNoid is now known as zz_NumberNoid[12:33:25] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[12:37:14] *** jessicah` has quit IRC[12:42:28] *** HaikuUser2 has joined #haiku[12:43:39] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[12:45:27] *** HaikuUser2 has quit IRC[12:48:08] *** hmstrmn has joined #haiku[12:48:18] <rNyhus> @PulkoMandy: It was recommended by @waddlesplash to change the title from "developing" to "development" (and the same with the other pages). Could that cause it to be confused with the main development page?[12:50:02] <PulkoMandy> no, and it should probably replace (part of) it anyway?[12:53:33] <PulkoMandy> having both http://www.haiku-os.org/development/getting-started and http://www.haiku-os.org/community/getting-involved/ looks quite confusing :)[13:35:53] <Carl_Miller> Hi[13:45:29] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[14:11:17] *** makalino has quit IRC[14:12:13] *** makalino has joined #haiku[14:19:51] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49114 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9ac06d90b19c+%5Ea8ee0de7ea59[14:19:53] <HAIKU-irker005> 9ac06d90b19c: ffmpeg: fix compatibility with Media server.[14:22:52] *** ASmith42 has joined #haiku[14:25:45] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[14:27:45] <ASmith42> I put a nightly build on an HP laptop. It has one of those multimedia touch-control strips above the keyboard. The "mute" button is always lit and I have no audio. Out of the 8 controls on the strip, only toggling Wi-fi works as it should. Does anyone know, is this a hardware-specific issue or is it something a user can do about it?[14:30:21] *** oblo has quit IRC[14:30:35] <luroh> ASmith42: if you haven't already, it might be worth trying the most recent nightly and the second-most recent one[14:30:43] <luroh> (see http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-commits/haiku-hrev49103-srcaddonskernelbus-managersacpiacpicacomponentsutilities )[14:32:18] <ASmith42> OK. I'm fairly certain I am using the second most recent. I downloaded it about 22 hours ago.[14:33:39] <luroh> check for any bios updates and if that doesn't help, log a ticket (if there isn't one already), containing a syslog and the output of 'listdev'[14:33:41] <ASmith42> The unnumbered from the top of the nightly-build list, right?[14:33:48] <luroh> (see https://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/ReportingBugs )[14:34:04] <ASmith42> OK. Thank you.[14:34:23] <luroh> hrev49112 is the latest one from about 12 hours ago[14:34:27] <ASmith42> I'll have to install Windows to update the BIOS. I did find a newer one.[14:34:40] <ASmith42> Great. Thank you very much![14:34:56] <luroh> np :)[14:38:00] *** ASmith42 has left #haiku[14:42:42] *** oblo has joined #haiku[14:45:25] *** oblo has quit IRC[14:50:01] <Carl_Miller> :/[14:51:42] *** HaikuUser2 has joined #haiku[15:03:12] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[15:03:19] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[15:03:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[15:10:37] *** js has quit IRC[15:14:59] *** HaikuUser2 has quit IRC[15:21:14] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[15:21:59] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[15:21:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[15:28:45] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[15:29:47] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[15:48:30] *** [r4] has quit IRC[16:00:33] *** js has joined #haiku[16:00:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o js[16:03:21] *** NOSCag has joined #haiku[16:03:34] *** js has quit IRC[16:03:57] *** js has joined #haiku[16:03:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o js[16:05:52] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[16:13:57] *** alz_ has joined #haiku[16:14:04] <alz_> Hello[16:15:01] <alz_> I have a problem using Haiku, my sound doesn't work, as far as I know I need to install open sound drivers after removing default ones, but I have no idea how to do it, can you please provide me with URL to some how-to?[16:15:24] <Diver> alz_: do you use a nightly image?[16:15:47] <alz_> I installed from normal image but I'm updating my OS to nightly versions[16:16:05] <Diver> you can't update A4.1 to a nightly[16:16:16] <Diver> http://download.haiku-os.org/nightly-images/x86_gcc2_hybrid/[16:16:48] <alz_> I dunno, I followed the instructions on haiku web page and my rev is changing with every update, I updated today[16:17:26] <alz_> I do not want to install whole system all over again :/[16:17:35] <Diver> ok, then you need to install opensound from HaikuDepot[16:17:38] <alz_> wait i will tell you what I did[16:17:42] <Diver> ok[16:18:53] <alz_> cannot find it now :/, damn, so you say that I should install it all over again?[16:19:25] <alz_> I'm pretty sure I updated it to nightly from stable but as you say it's not possible maybe it's better to do it all over again[16:20:09] <alz_> what will i gain with fresh nightly install?[16:20:44] <PulkoMandy> if updates are working you probably already have a nightly install[16:22:21] <alz_> hmm, is there any way to check if i installed from A4 or nightly?[16:22:24] *** happy-dude has joined #haiku[16:22:26] <alz_> did it months ago[16:22:32] <alz_> and i don't really have much time[16:22:41] <alz_> so i didn't use it very often[16:23:46] <PulkoMandy> AboutSystem shows the current revision[16:23:55] <PulkoMandy> if you already used pkgman and HaikuDepot it's a nightly[16:24:51] <alz_> i used pkgman[16:24:54] <alz_> so nightly[16:25:01] <alz_> ok so whats the best way to install open sound[16:25:30] <Diver> find it in HaikuDepot[16:27:14] <_3dEyes> LibreCAD - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4494939/ScreenShots/LibreCAD_2.0.7_haiku.png[16:28:52] *** _3dEyes has quit IRC[16:29:10] *** alz_ has quit IRC[16:46:44] *** alz_ has joined #haiku[16:47:19] <alz_> Hello I'm bac[16:47:41] <alz_> i'm back so I'm using nightly build and installed opensound from haiku depot, still there is no sound[16:50:47] <alz_> as far as i remember i read that i should remove default drivers[16:52:11] <alz_> anyone?[16:52:15] <alz_> I'm stuck here[16:53:17] *** alz_ has quit IRC[16:55:35] <bbjimmy> you may have to blacklist your sound driver[16:56:07] <bbjimmy> https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/barrett/2013-12-15_how_permanently_blacklist_package_file[16:57:17] <bbjimmy> too late, he asked the question then went away while I was searching for the web link to the answer. :/[16:58:19] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[16:58:36] <Carl_Miller> I hate when people do that[16:58:50] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[16:58:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[16:59:17] <bbjimmy> patience is not a common attribute.[16:59:47] *** unicodesnowman has quit IRC[16:59:48] *** unicodesnowman has joined #haiku[17:02:12] *** nighty-_ has quit IRC[17:02:56] *** nighty-_ has joined #haiku[17:11:02] <bbjimmy> https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/pull-request/522/yab-1745-yab-ide-2244 this pr has been there so long that I updated it to a later version of yab.[17:18:54] *** epigraph has joined #haiku[17:26:09] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[17:26:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:29:03] *** Max-Might has joined #haiku[17:31:11] *** oblo has joined #haiku[17:40:04] <humdinger> My tools icon sucks... http://postimg.org/image/mplci8qbd/[17:40:12] <humdinger> artists, apply here..[17:41:44] <waddlesplash> humdinger: All but "Tools" look nice.[17:42:18] <humdinger> yes. I know. :P[17:42:30] <waddlesplash> oh. lol[17:48:49] *** nighty-_ has quit IRC[17:50:07] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[18:07:25] *** hamishm has quit IRC[18:09:41] *** tqh2 has joined #haiku[18:09:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh2[18:11:32] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:12:26] *** humdinger has quit IRC[18:13:10] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[18:13:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[18:13:31] *** tqh has quit IRC[18:25:57] *** hagen has joined #haiku[18:29:46] *** DingoSaar has quit IRC[18:32:11] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #haiku[18:46:26] *** hamishm has joined #haiku[19:12:17] *** pvalue54 has joined #haiku[19:20:24] *** freakazoid0223 has left #haiku[19:21:22] *** pvalue54 has quit IRC[19:36:27] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[19:36:46] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[19:37:08] *** alz_ has joined #haiku[19:37:19] <alz_> hello i'm still playing aroung with these audio drivers[19:37:43] <alz_> strange, it appears that my haiku partition file system is read-only? Why? It doesn't make any sense[19:38:01] <PulkoMandy> our package manager works this way[19:38:08] <alz_> what do you mean?[19:38:22] <PulkoMandy> /system is not stored directly on the filesystem[19:38:36] <alz_> i read that i should move hda from drivers folder to a different name to disable it but "mv: cannot move 'hda' to 'hda.disabled': Read-only file system"[19:38:38] <PulkoMandy> it is only a virtual filesystem, where you can see the contents of installed packages[19:38:46] <PulkoMandy> (which are in /system/packages)[19:38:57] <PulkoMandy> you can only make changes to /system/non-packaged[19:39:08] <PulkoMandy> if you need to disable a driver, you can use the blacklist system[19:39:28] <PulkoMandy> https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/blacklist-packages[19:39:39] <alz_> actually im in /boot/system/add-ons/kernel/drivers/bin[19:39:54] <alz_> aha[19:39:59] <alz_> will take a look into it[19:41:16] <alz_> i see, so i guess hda driver is in haiku package, or i am wrong here?[19:41:29] <PulkoMandy> yes[19:41:53] <alz_> thx :)[19:42:03] <alz_> ok will try, hope this trick will do the job[19:45:28] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[19:46:24] <alz_> ok reboot, hope that works[19:46:30] *** alz_ has quit IRC[19:50:44] *** alz_ has joined #haiku[19:50:47] <alz_> Sorry no go[19:50:48] <alz_> :([19:53:04] <alz_> i created packages file in /boot/system/settings and put this inside: http://pastebin.com/9gN7Pw3Q ; opensound is installed via haikudepot , what else can i do?[19:55:32] <humdinger> alz_: did your blacklisting actually work?[19:55:53] <humdinger> I'd thought it should be "add-ons/kernel/drivers/bin/hda"[19:56:05] <alz_> Hmm, i tried "ossplay" command to open my .mp3 file and got the following error: http://pastebin.com/EPtY542k - maybe that's the problem[19:56:47] *** danboid has joined #haiku[19:56:54] <humdinger> what does "listimage | grep hda" say?[19:57:04] <alz_> hmm, seems correct - maybe i messed up the script, will try that out[19:57:16] <alz_> listimage | grep hda[19:57:21] <alz_> f, not here[19:57:36] <humdinger> then the blacklisting seemed to have worked.[19:57:59] <danboid> Looks like I've nearly got the Intel 2230 driver compiled but I'm unsure about the glue.c bit https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12006#comment:3[19:58:36] <Diver> alz_: ls /boot/system/add-ons/kernel/drivers/bin/hda[19:58:46] <alz_> humdinger: http://pastebin.com/Yc5GnZpt[19:59:09] <alz_> Diver: it's there[19:59:11] *** Bodhi has joined #haiku[19:59:18] <Diver> it should be "add-ons/kernel/drivers/bin/hda"[19:59:35] <alz_> will try the solution humdinger suggested, using different path in script[19:59:41] <Diver> right[20:00:06] <alz_> Diver: ls result is "/boot/system/add-ons/kernel/drivers/bin/hda"[20:00:36] <alz_> ok modified the script[20:00:39] <alz_> reboot[20:00:41] <Diver> when you blacklist it and reboot the file should not be there anymore[20:00:54] <danboid> PulkoMandy, https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12006#comment:3[20:03:24] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev49115 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=37335989120a+%5E9ac06d90b19c[20:03:25] <HAIKU-irker005> 4a6014fe23f5: Tracker: fix PoseView border in FilePanels.[20:03:26] <HAIKU-irker005> 37335989120a: Tracker: delete more non-Haiku code.[20:04:06] *** alzen has joined #haiku[20:04:12] <alzen> ok works, didn't see the mixer at first but now it works :)[20:04:17] <alzen> thank you all guys[20:04:25] <humdinger> great alzen![20:04:46] *** alz_ has quit IRC[20:05:03] <danboid> Anyone know how the network glue.c files work?[20:05:12] <alzen> sound seems not so good quality but i doubt haiku will support ExpressCard SoundBlaster X-Fi card :D[20:05:19] <alzen> still will play around with volumes and will try to make it better quality :)[20:06:09] <alzen> it's crazy to go back to haiku community after 10 yrs ;)[20:07:00] <danboid> alzen, Nah. Makes perfect sense. Its just getting into its stride :)[20:07:51] <alzen> yep i know but as i have so little time it's hard to learn it all over again, got used to linux but i plan to stay here, even if it will be my "second" os for quite a while ;)[20:08:06] <alzen> i just love the feeling of beos[20:08:20] <alzen> (just like a love the feeling of NES games ;))[20:09:01] <alzen> btw. do we have any software that will capture video from Dazzle device? I doubt but maybe there is such a tool...[20:15:09] <luroh> danboid: what's that path you posted, contrib?[20:15:53] <IIsi50MHz> If you had asked about sound drivers for BeOS to support ESS AudioDrive in Compaq Presario 4505, I could have helped.[20:16:07] <luroh> danboid: it's in data/system/data/firmware/iprowifi4965[20:16:21] <IIsi50MHz> I patched a driver to work with it.[20:18:04] <IIsi50MHz> I haven't attempt anything much with Haiku recently. /-:[20:21:23] *** DaaT has quit IRC[20:21:34] *** alzen has quit IRC[20:23:43] *** Bodhi has quit IRC[20:31:53] <danboid> luroh, Hi[20:32:14] <danboid> luroh, contrib? The path I posted is relative to the Haiku git tree[20:33:51] <luroh> my point is that your firmware file is already present in the haiku tree[20:33:57] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev49116 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b211592822d8+%5E37335989120a[20:33:58] <HAIKU-irker005> b211592822d8: zipomatic: notify an error when /bin/zip is missing[20:35:07] <danboid> luroh, That seems a bit strange. Why would the 2230 FW be in the tree if the 4965 driver wasn't patched to support it?[20:35:45] <luroh> that... i do know know :)[20:35:49] <luroh> not*[20:36:00] <luroh> but it's there[20:36:29] <danboid> weird. Any idea what I need to add to the glue.c then?[20:36:32] <luroh> perhaps due to a wholesale firmware import at some point[20:36:59] *** humdinger has quit IRC[20:37:00] <danboid> must be[20:37:03] <luroh> you could check what other drivers do[20:39:18] <danboid> luroh, You've answered half my question now anyway, I just don't know where the first value comes from. Its not from listdev[20:39:41] <PulkoMandy> danboid: it seems the driver should be setting a "fwname" somewhere[20:39:52] <danboid> PulkoMandy, Hi![20:39:54] <PulkoMandy> (http://grok.bikemonkey.org/source/xref/haiku/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/wlan/iprowifi4965/dev/iwn/if_iwn.c#782 in the existing code)[20:40:24] <PulkoMandy> so just match whatever string is used at this place in your patch, to the file name of the firmware[20:42:33] <luroh> iprowifi4965/Jamfile might need some light massaging too[20:43:36] <danboid> PulkoMandy, Ah OK - I shall have a look shortly. Thanks![20:43:58] <PulkoMandy> yes, the jamfile will need adding all new .c files, and adding the firmware to the list there as well[20:43:59] <danboid> I'm just about to set off onn a long drive now unfortunately[20:44:44] <danboid> Thanks for your help PulkoMandy and luroh ![20:45:05] <luroh> np, drive safely :)[20:45:18] <danboid> luroh, Thanks![20:48:54] <danboid> Before I go - I presume I can just compile the iprowifi4965 driver without copiling the whole of Haiku (or the kernel) can I?[20:50:15] *** rardiol has joined #haiku[20:51:33] <luroh> not sure you can escape doing an initial full build[20:51:46] <luroh> the subsequent ones should be quick and painless though[20:52:20] <danboid> Ah OK. Not a big deal.[20:52:39] <danboid> Speak soon Haiku'ers![20:53:13] *** danboid has quit IRC[20:54:38] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[21:01:21] *** rardiol has quit IRC[21:15:53] *** [r4] has quit IRC[21:30:30] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[21:34:49] *** Akuji has quit IRC[21:43:13] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[21:43:20] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[21:43:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[21:44:16] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[21:46:42] *** myrkraverk has joined #haiku[21:47:04] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[21:49:13] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[21:49:16] *** computerquip has quit IRC[21:49:55] *** computerquip has joined #haiku[21:57:24] *** LeandroLuiz has quit IRC[21:58:49] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[22:03:37] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: jackburton * hrev49117 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=63effa099cce+%5Eb211592822d8[22:03:38] <HAIKU-irker005> 63effa099cce: Fix typo (missing pointer dereference).[22:12:46] *** axeld has joined #haiku[22:12:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[22:13:00] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49118 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=bb132940c318+%5E63effa099cce[22:13:01] <HAIKU-irker005> bb132940c318: Add package for Sawteeth.[22:13:40] *** skbot2141 has quit IRC[22:13:57] *** soakbot has joined #haiku[22:13:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[22:22:08] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[22:29:55] *** oblo has quit IRC[22:31:23] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[22:32:04] *** axeld has quit IRC[22:34:02] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[22:34:14] *** UFO has joined #haiku[22:34:38] *** UFO is now known as Guest16484[22:36:32] *** Guest16484 is now known as A-L-I-E-N[22:37:43] *** A-L-I-E-N has quit IRC[22:38:10] *** A-L-I-E-N has joined #haiku[22:38:34] *** nighty-_ has joined #haiku[22:39:23] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: anevilyak * hrev49119 [7 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=2f8648484205+%5Ebb132940c318[22:39:24] <HAIKU-irker005> 162224b5d2e9: Debugger: Add register format definition for SIMD.[22:39:25] <HAIKU-irker005> a5fbc88f439a: Debugger: Expose more x86{-64} registers.[22:39:26] <HAIKU-irker005> b7c7c41749a7: Debugger: Add basic handling of SIMD to RegistersView.[22:39:27] <HAIKU-irker005> 3127a22868be: Debugger: Tweak UiUtils floating point format.[22:39:28] <HAIKU-irker005> 5fb200993190: Debugger: Restrict registers via CPU feature detection.[22:39:29] <HAIKU-irker005> 88e499ca82c4: Debugger: Add SIMD format options.[22:39:30] <HAIKU-irker005> 2f8648484205: Debugger: Cleanups.[22:42:00] *** Sue has joined #haiku[22:42:00] *** Sue has joined #haiku[22:42:20] *** Gareth has joined #haiku[22:46:51] *** A-L-I-E-N has quit IRC[22:53:59] *** Max-Might has quit IRC[23:00:43] *** matako has joined #haiku[23:01:02] *** matako has quit IRC[23:02:49] *** matako has joined #haiku[23:04:03] *** matako has quit IRC[23:16:43] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[23:17:22] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[23:18:11] *** happy-dude has joined #haiku[23:25:57] *** oblo has joined #haiku[23:36:04] *** tqh2 has quit IRC