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[00:19:44] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1507 of haiku-repository-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_hybrid/builds/1507
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[00:25:10] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1452 of haiku-repository-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_64/builds/1452
[00:26:16] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev49068 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c3bffc88c907+%5Ebdf0418f5c4a
[00:26:17] <HAIKU-irker005> 7dd1073833e5: ByteOrder.h: add explicit casts when using gcc builtins
[00:26:18] <HAIKU-irker005> c3bffc88c907: fix warnings
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[00:38:57] <computerquip> So, the structure of a USB input device that isn't also an HID device... would be split into two sections? A device driver... then the input driver (terminology?) would rely on the device driver for communication?
[00:40:46] <computerquip> I'm not sure how BeOS drivers work... but from what I'm seeing, a device driver would communicate with an input driver via ioctls (dev file like in Linux).
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[01:12:29] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev49069 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=0a6339dd36f6+%5Ec3bffc88c907
[01:12:30] <HAIKU-irker005> 0a6339dd36f6: hack_coff: add rs6000.h from GDB 7.8
[01:14:53] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev49070 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ae799603e783+%5E0a6339dd36f6
[01:14:54] <HAIKU-irker005> ae799603e783: hack_coff: remove useless header dependency
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[01:35:55] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev49071 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b526d04a5b41+%5Eae799603e783
[01:35:56] <HAIKU-irker005> b526d04a5b41: paths.h: add _BSD_SOURCE guard back, also check for _GNU_SOURCE
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[01:45:32] <mmu_man> ohh why did I uselessly try with -sHAIKU_BUILD_TYPE? it's overridden anyway. jam -q @bootstrap-raw haiku-boot-cd-ppc.iso works fine :)
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[02:40:54] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #315 of haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @nightly-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/315
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[03:01:56] <HAIKU-irker005> mmu_man-github.ppc-qemu-openbios: [1 commit] https://github.com/mmuman/haiku/compare/0a4c075c13df
[03:01:57] <HAIKU-irker005> 0a4c075c13df: WIP: PPC: Try to get QEMU to boot
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[09:52:43] <nagerst> What would be the ideal image to install?
[09:52:51] <nagerst> The A4 image is rather old isnt it?
[09:54:06] <puckipedia> the nightlies are probably your best choice, and yeah, we haven't had an alpha for a long time
[09:54:35] <nagerst> haiku_unsupported-nightly-hrev49071-x86_hybrid-anyboot.zip
[09:54:47] <nagerst> ?
[09:54:49] <puckipedia> hmm
[09:54:58] <puckipedia> I think you're better off with the gcc2 hybrid
[09:55:03] <nagerst> ok
[09:55:06] <puckipedia> those are best supported, and have the best compatibility
[09:55:28] <puckipedia> (the kernel and userland are mainly gcc2, but it can also run gcc4/'modern' programs)
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[10:03:10] <nagerst> I am almost certain the old laptop i bought for Haiku usage will work..
[10:03:21] <nagerst> A bit worried about the sound chip though
[10:04:14] <nagerst> realtek alc
[10:07:04] <nagerst> Ok, booted from the disk... so sad to find that it is 1024x768 max =(
[10:07:07] <nagerst> Intel graphics.
[10:07:24] <puckipedia> huh
[10:07:44] <puckipedia> that should work, I can use intel graphics at native resolution
[10:07:54] <Diver> listimage | grep accel
[10:08:29] <nagerst> vesa
[10:09:31] <puckipedia> hm
[10:09:36] <Diver> maybe your device id is missing from intel_extreme driver?
[10:09:38] <nagerst> the laptop has intel gfx as well as AMD 2400. Could that be causing it?
[10:11:05] <nagerst> oh nope i was wrong... IT has only AMD 2400HD. How stupid of me.
[10:11:07] <puckipedia> hmm, maybe
[10:11:08] <puckipedia> ah
[10:11:12] <puckipedia> that explains :P
[10:11:22] <nagerst> The old AMD's not supported?
[10:11:38] <puckipedia> not sure
[10:12:16] <nagerst> device/id 0x94c9
[10:12:29] <Diver> need to check radeon_hd driver
[10:13:36] <Diver> http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/radeon_hd/driver.cpp
[10:14:06] <puckipedia> hm
[10:14:10] <Diver> http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/radeon_hd/driver.cpp#n84
[10:14:23] <Diver> the closest is Radeon HD 2350
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[10:15:14] <Diver> kallisti5: ^
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[10:15:56] <nagerst> 0x95c9 3450 is basicly the same card as the one i have, AMD just rebranded some cards for the next gen.
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[10:17:49] <nagerst> Oh well, at least i tested. The wifi worked marveoulsly well though.
[10:18:08] <Diver> nagerst: maybe you could try to add your device id and check if it works?
[10:18:14] <puckipedia> yeah
[10:18:27] <puckipedia> I don't think 0x95c9 is related a lot
[10:18:37] <nagerst> Diver: I have no build environment.
[10:18:54] <Diver> do you have Haiku installed?
[10:19:14] <nagerst> Diver: Nope. I ran it from usb to test first if everything worked.
[10:19:20] <Diver> ah, k
[10:19:46] <Diver> well, once you install it you'll have build env :)
[10:19:58] <puckipedia> just git clone the haiku sources :P
[10:20:39] <Diver> you can also try Clover boot manager to get native resolution from vesa driver
[10:21:07] <puckipedia> maybe, it *is* a big hack however :P
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[10:22:10] <nagerst> It has the same 610 chip as most 2***HD and many 3***HD cards so it would probably work if i added the deviceid.
[10:22:33] <puckipedia> well, try it!
[10:22:38] <puckipedia> :P
[10:24:37] <nagerst> some other time perhaps. I feel really lazy today.
[10:25:04] <Diver> it will take you 20 min :)
[10:25:40] <nagerst> i doubt that =D
[10:25:45] <nagerst> but ok
[10:25:56] <puckipedia> installing haiku is seriously like 10 seconds
[10:26:08] <puckipedia> (from pressing 'install' to having it installed)
[10:26:34] <nagerst> it is installed now.
[10:26:39] <puckipedia> :P
[10:27:29] <nagerst> what is the adress to the haiku sources?
[10:27:38] <nagerst> I suck at this
[10:27:50] <puckipedia> git clone https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku
[10:28:08] <nagerst> net_server crashed.
[10:28:18] <puckipedia> D:
[10:28:22] <puckipedia> that shouldn't happen
[10:28:40] <nagerst> Ill reboot again
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[10:28:54] <puckipedia> did you save the report?
[10:29:22] <nagerst> was i supposed to? =D
[10:29:41] <puckipedia> well, it may help us in finding the bug, it may be due to your network card or something :P
[10:29:54] <puckipedia> and sadly, we don't have every device ever made, so we can't test it all
[10:30:50] <nagerst> where does it save the crash logs?
[10:30:54] <puckipedia> desktop
[10:31:01] <nagerst> then it was not saved.
[10:31:38] <Diver> nagerst: upload your syslog, it might still contain it
[10:32:49] <nagerst> there is a native magnet/torrent program for haiku nowdays, right? Or does qbittorrent still work?
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[10:34:47] <nagerst> I think i have to reinstall Haiku.. I made a too small partition.
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[10:35:22] <puckipedia> yeah, I'd give it about 10-20GB
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[10:43:42] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: janus * hrev49072 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e62a6973498c+%5Eb526d04a5b41
[10:43:44] <HAIKU-irker005> e62a6973498c: ShowImage: Set width and height attributes of the showed image.
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[10:50:04] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: janus * hrev49073 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=005198d91310+%5Ee62a6973498c
[10:50:05] <HAIKU-irker005> 005198d91310: ShowImage: Fixes wrong indentation.
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[11:37:42] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: janus * hrev49074 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=41425e461d8a+%5E005198d91310
[11:37:42] <HAIKU-irker005> 41425e461d8a: Preferences: uses BLayoutBuilder instead of BGroupLayoutBuilder.
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[12:04:09] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: janus * hrev49075 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c1994be81793+%5E41425e461d8a
[12:04:10] <HAIKU-irker005> c1994be81793: ShowImage: fixes variables declaration.
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[12:16:55] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1566 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/1566 blamelist: Janus <janus2 at ymail dot com>
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[13:22:21] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: threedeyes * hrev49076 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c7077b33ac49+%5Ec1994be81793
[13:22:22] <HAIKU-irker005> c7077b33ac49: Update MuPDF up to 1.7 and PDFTranslator, DocumentViewer packages
[13:33:01] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1567 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/1567
[13:34:50] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: threedeyes * hrev49077 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e59470891ca8+%5Ec7077b33ac49
[13:34:51] <HAIKU-irker005> e59470891ca8: Added BeZilla package for x86_gcc2
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[13:43:16] <nagerst> ok now i have reinstalled on a 500gb drive. Now i should be able to clone
[13:49:26] <User3345> nagerst: you can clone with --depth=10 if you do not want the full commit history
[13:49:45] <nagerst> User3345: i do not think i need that. I am pretty much a noob.
[13:50:08] <nagerst> I used to use BeOS in the late 90's and early 00's
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[13:52:14] <nagerst> Diver: Now that i have cloned the git repo. How do i add the desired deviceid and make the binary?
[13:57:45] <nagerst> It would be delicious if i could get it all working before i leave on vacation (i am bringing the laptop with me)
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[14:21:17] <Diver> nagerst: modify src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/radeon_hd/driver.cpp
[14:21:34] <Diver> then run configure
[14:21:53] <Diver> and "jam radeon_hd"
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[14:40:45] <nagerst> Diver: do i only make one single line in that file or is there more to it?
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[14:43:08] <nagerst> Diver: should i make it IGP or STD?
[14:44:05] <Diver> IGP?
[14:45:01] <nagerst> integrated graphics processor.
[14:45:13] <nagerst> STD i assume is Standalone
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[14:45:28] <nagerst> I picked IGP and hopefully it will work.
[14:46:53] <HAIKU-irker005> mmu_man-github.rebasing-ppc-qemu-openbios: [1 commit] https://github.com/mmuman/haiku/compare/7225b933f58a
[14:46:54] <HAIKU-irker005> 7225b933f58a: WIP: PPC: Try to get QEMU to boot
[14:51:46] <nagerst> Diver: where does the binary go after the jam:ing?
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[14:52:04] <Diver> nagerst: sec
[14:52:55] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: janus * hrev49078 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9c1f5f4d700c+%5Ee59470891ca8
[14:52:56] <HAIKU-irker005> 9c1f5f4d700c: ShowImage: improve attributes performance.
[14:53:01] <Diver> nagerst: /boot/system/non-packaged/add-ons/kernel/drivers
[14:53:06] <Diver> /boot/system/non-packaged/add-ons/kernel/drivers/bin
[14:53:23] <nagerst> Diver: The jam:ing moved the files automatically?
[14:53:37] <Diver> no
[14:53:45] <Diver> you need to do that manually
[14:54:04] <nagerst> yes but i do not see the binary
[14:54:11] <nagerst> where is it located in the build folder
[14:54:16] <Diver> then you need to create a link to /boot/system/non-packaged/add-ons/kernel/drivers/dev/graphics
[14:54:25] <Diver> jam should have told you
[14:54:30] <nagerst> yes i know. that part is like installing drivers in BeOS
[14:54:52] <Diver> pastebin your jam output
[14:55:53] <nagerst> it did
[14:55:59] <nagerst> I just did not realize it
[14:56:05] <Diver> ok :)
[14:56:10] <nagerst> What should i do with all the other files?
[14:56:21] <Diver> you only need one
[14:56:32] <nagerst> So i should the ignore the ones in "common"
[14:56:43] <Diver> (maybe you also need to install hadeon_hd.accelerant)
[14:56:57] <Diver> you need the binary
[15:01:44] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: janus * hrev49079 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b41cdcb350c3+%5E9c1f5f4d700c
[15:01:45] <HAIKU-irker005> b41cdcb350c3: ShowImage: reformat lines over 80 chars.
[15:01:46] <nagerst> now i have perfect resolution
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[15:05:02] <nagerst-laptop> writing from the haiku laptop =D
[15:05:07] <Diver> nagerst: yay! :)
[15:05:13] <nagerst-laptop> {0x94c9, 2, 0, RADEON_RV610, CHIP_IGP, "Radeon HD 2490"},
[15:05:18] <nagerst-laptop> That was the line i added
[15:05:20] <Diver> nagerst: now, create a patch
[15:05:37] <nagerst-laptop> Diver could you not just add that line for me?
[15:05:41] <Diver> https://www.haiku-os.org/development/faq#patches
[15:06:26] <Diver> I lost my ssh key last year and been to lay to upload a new one :P
[15:08:11] <puckipedia> lol
[15:08:30] <nagerst-laptop> Was there not a package manager somewhere?
[15:08:44] <nagerst-laptop> (new topic, sorry)
[15:08:46] <puckipedia> pkgman / HaikuDepot
[15:09:21] <puckipedia> nagerst-laptop: create a patch for it (see above) then create an issue on dev.haiku-os.org, I'll push it
[15:10:21] <puckipedia> you can also pastebin it or so :P
[15:10:47] <nagerst-laptop> i am doing it now.
[15:11:38] <nagerst-laptop> So it is: git commit -a "Added deviceid for LG Z1 R200 series of laptops"
[15:11:41] <Diver> *lazy
[15:12:07] <nagerst-laptop> ?
[15:12:36] <Diver> nagerst-laptop: "radeon_hd: added device id for LG Z1 R200 series of laptops"
[15:12:41] <Diver> something like that
[15:13:29] <nagerst-laptop> fatal: Paths with -a does not make sense.
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[15:17:17] <Diver> git commit -a -m "radeon_hd: added device id for LG Z1 R200 series of laptops"
[15:17:55] <nagerst-laptop> that seems to be doing stuff =D
[15:18:51] <nagerst-laptop> it wants me to add a username.
[15:19:23] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev49080 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=fe0af420622e+%5Eb41cdcb350c3
[15:19:25] <HAIKU-irker005> fe0af420622e: shutdown: style fix
[15:20:18] <nagerst-laptop> puckipedia ok now i have submitted the patch
[15:21:16] <puckipedia> right
[15:21:17] <puckipedia> lemme check
[15:22:18] * puckipedia updates local git
[15:24:55] <puckipedia> seems to be taking a while
[15:26:12] <puckipedia> nagerst-laptop: how did you submit the patch?
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[15:27:28] <nagerst-laptop> puckipedia git commit -a -m "radeon_hd: added device id for LG Z1 R200 series of laptops"
[15:27:54] <puckipedia> okay, can you do 'git format-patch HEAD^'?
[15:28:31] <puckipedia> then 'cat 0001-* | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us' - that should give you a URL, which contains the above patch
[15:28:50] <nagerst-laptop> 0001-radeon_hd-added-device-id-for-LG-Z1-R200-series-of-l.patch
[15:29:32] <nagerst-laptop> http://sprunge.us/hTjf
[15:29:37] <puckipedia> okay, nice
[15:30:13] <nagerst-laptop> hehe a lot of work for just one line =D
[15:30:23] <puckipedia> except, I am not sure of one thing
[15:30:34] <puckipedia> if you run 'listdev | grep 94c9', what does that return?
[15:31:02] <nagerst-laptop> device 94c9: RV610/M72-S [Mobility Radeon HD 2400]
[15:31:05] <puckipedia> ok
[15:31:17] <puckipedia> I'll update your patch with the correct name then :P
[15:31:28] <puckipedia> it says it's a 'Radeon HD 2490"
[15:31:37] <puckipedia> in the patch
[15:31:50] <Diver> sorting seems to be a bit off
[15:32:02] <puckipedia> yeah
[15:32:04] <puckipedia> that too :P
[15:33:10] <nagerst-laptop> it is a 2400 series though so that is kinda right
[15:33:36] <nagerst-laptop> but the 90 has twice the TMU's of the regular igp
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[15:34:17] <nagerst-laptop> it is basicly a backrevision of the 3k series.
[15:34:22] <puckipedia> ah
[15:34:34] <Diver> http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/data/ids/pci.ids#n2944
[15:34:45] <nagerst-laptop> More info can be found on the LG website. That is alwo in windows why it does not use the legacy drivers whilst the regular 2400 does.
[15:35:03] <puckipedia> Diver: thanks :P
[15:35:37] <Diver> np)
[15:38:38] * puckipedia tests if the change builds :P
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[15:40:54] <puckipedia> okay, it builds :P
[15:41:03] <puckipedia> check, the change looks good
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[15:42:01] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: puckipedia * hrev49081 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=01b5651f21d3+%5Efe0af420622e
[15:42:02] <HAIKU-irker005> 01b5651f21d3: radeon_hd: added device id for LG Z1 R200 series of laptops
[15:42:03] <puckipedia> nagerst-laptop: ^
[15:52:22] <nagerst-laptop> sure looks good
[15:52:40] <nagerst-laptop> i do not care about the name, as long as it works =D
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[15:52:53] <puckipedia> :P
[15:53:10] <puckipedia> nagerst-laptop: I think in about 10-20 minutes it should have been built and you can download the newest versions with patch built-in
[15:53:23] <nagerst-laptop> cool
[15:53:52] <nagerst-laptop> Btw, last time i tried haiku i am rather sure there was a graphical package manager. Where do i get that?
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[16:01:27] <nagerst-laptop> or where can i find a package list for the package manager.
[16:02:39] <nagerst-laptop> I really want mplayer2, qbittorrent, and a youtube client. Perhaps a browser that supports addblock and i would be set.
[16:02:51] <nagerst-laptop> or equivalent ofcourse
[16:03:37] <nagerst-laptop> a office package of any kind would be nice as well. But i could probably make teapot work for all my budgeting. (the ncurses spreadsheet)
[16:04:09] <nagerst-laptop> Sorry to be such an bother, i do not mean to.
[16:04:57] <User3345> nagerst-laptop: check out the HaikuDepot application, it is the GUI to the package manager
[16:05:31] <User3345> I think there is a spreadsheet app called Sum-It or something
[16:06:26] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1519 of haiku-repository-x86_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_hybrid/builds/1519 blamelist: nagerst <nagerst at yahoo dot com>
[16:06:30] <nagerst-laptop> oh yeah, i remember that one
[16:06:53] <nagerst-laptop> User3345 thank you
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[16:10:32] <Diver> nagerst-laptop: mplayer is only available in haikuports, so you'll need to compile it
[16:10:54] <Diver> I have the package(s) tho, so I can probably upload them
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[16:11:17] <Diver> also, make sure you've updated your repo
[16:11:24] <Diver> s
[16:11:34] <Diver> see https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/updating-system
[16:11:48] <nagerst-laptop> Diver you are most helpful, thank you again
[16:11:57] <Diver> sure
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[16:12:33] <Diver> qBittorrent http://postimg.org/image/m9h6xqor7/ needs to be compiled
[16:13:16] <Diver> web+ is able to play youtube btw
[16:13:27] <Diver> there's also UberTuber
[16:13:49] <Diver> https://depot.haiku-os.org/ubertuber
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[16:26:14] <nagerst> if web+ can do it i will use that.
[16:26:54] <nagerst> to be frank i bet the mediaplayer that is oncluded can do everything i want (as long as it can play unpixelated mkv's and mp4's)
[16:27:00] <nagerst> in*
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[16:27:45] <nagerst> qbittorrent is a must though as the only one available in repo seems to be transmission. And transmission is not what i am looking for.
[16:28:09] <nagerst> Diver: How do i compile qbittorrent?
[16:28:33] <nagerst> guessing i also need to compile libqt and libtorrent-rasterbar7
[16:33:33] <nagerst> is there an automated script for compiling both qbittorrent and dependencies?
[16:34:50] <nagerst> btw is bepodder an rss reader or is it only for media?
[16:37:37] <Diver> you need to install libqt4_x86_devel
[16:38:22] <Diver> it's available in HaikuDepot
[16:49:56] <nagerst> Diver: ok now i have installed all of that. How do i get and install qbittorrent?
[16:50:40] <Diver> download qbittorrent source code
[16:50:52] <nagerst-laptop> from their regular website?
[16:51:05] <Diver> yep
[16:51:47] <nagerst-laptop> i also need the rasterbar sources, right?
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[16:52:01] <Diver> not sure what it is
[16:53:54] <nagerst> the torrent engine
[16:54:06] <nagerst> listed below qbittorrent on the site
[16:54:27] <nagerst> how do i make the binaies.
[16:54:39] <nagerst> ./configure returned error
[16:55:06] <nagerst-laptop> "checking whether the C compiler works... no"
[16:55:20] <puckipedia> hmm
[16:55:22] <Diver> wait, I've located qbittorrent package
[16:55:28] <nagerst-laptop> cool
[16:55:38] <puckipedia> I was about to say 'try running it in x86 mode: setarch x86'
[16:55:44] <puckipedia> which uses gcc4, instead of the system-default gcc2
[16:55:50] <nagerst> aah ok
[16:56:05] <puckipedia> but hey, if it is packaged already, that's even simpler
[16:56:11] <nagerst> but can i try the package first.
[16:56:35] <Diver> we need to write a recipe for it anyway
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[17:33:08] <Diver> nagerst: try this https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvj3npk94xis316/qbittorrent_x86_3.0.9-1-x86.hpkg?dl=0
[17:33:43] <Diver> I've repackaged it and it at least starts over here. Dunno if it actually works
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[17:41:50] <nagerst> after i press "install" i get a warning, and then nothing happens
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[17:42:33] <nagerst> can i install a hpkg through the terminal so i can see the error?
[17:42:37] <puckipedia> nagerst: try 'pkgman install qbittorrent_x86_3.0.9-1-x86.hpkg"
[17:42:44] <puckipedia> at least, presuming you're in the correct folder
[17:43:52] <nagerst-laptop> failed to remove transaction directory: Directory not empty
[17:44:01] <puckipedia> huh
[17:44:12] <nagerst> yeah, what folder
[17:44:34] <puckipedia> it's ~/config/packages/something usually
[17:44:35] <puckipedia> iirc
[17:45:32] <Diver> rm -rf /system/packages/administrative/*
[17:47:00] <nagerst> ok install worked, but where is the binary installed?
[17:48:28] <puckipedia> it is in ~/config/bin or ~/config/apps?
[17:48:33] <puckipedia> and it should show up in deskbar
[17:48:51] <Diver> /boot/system/apps/Qbittorrent
[17:49:00] <puckipedia> close enough :P
[17:49:09] <Diver> and yes, it's also in Deskbar
[17:49:12] <Diver> :)
[17:49:41] <nagerst> nop no such file
[17:49:49] <Diver> huh?
[17:49:51] <puckipedia> huh
[17:50:06] <Diver> tail -F /var/log/syslog
[17:50:55] <nagerst-laptop> KERN: packagefs [10062364812: 1891] Failed to open package file "haiku_loader-r1~alpha4_pm_hrev49058-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg": No such file or directory
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[17:52:01] <Diver> doesn't look good
[17:52:10] <puckipedia> indeed
[17:52:12] <nagerst-laptop> ok
[17:52:18] <Diver> try to reboot maybe?
[17:52:29] * puckipedia wonders if something important was stored in the /system/packages/administrative folder :P
[17:52:29] <nagerst> ok
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[17:52:38] <Diver> package_daemon is not very robust yet
[17:53:09] <Diver> puckipedia, I've deleted it many times with no probs
[17:53:13] <nagerst> can we not make tha package into a .zip and just extract it into /boot/ like we used to?
[17:53:46] <puckipedia> well
[17:53:49] <Diver> you can do that too
[17:53:59] <puckipedia> the whole .hpkg system dynamically overlays everything into their correct folders
[17:54:29] <puckipedia> and the .hpkg files actually don't get extracted, they are dynamically used
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[17:56:10] <nagerst> Folder is read only... how do i change that.
[17:56:21] <nagerst> I want no part of my systems to be read only.
[17:56:30] <puckipedia> that's the idea
[17:56:43] <puckipedia> they aren't *read only*, they are the combination of multiple .hpkgs
[17:56:57] <nagerst> no i ment the system folder
[17:57:00] <puckipedia> indeed
[17:57:09] <nagerst> I want to move the files after extraction to their proper places
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[17:57:28] <puckipedia> what in BeOS were /system/apps etc are now in /system/non-packaged/apps etc
[17:57:52] <nagerst> but why is is write only?
[17:58:24] <puckipedia> because it is the combination of the .hpkg files in /system/packages, those are packages that contain files etc
[17:58:32] <puckipedia> (I presume you meant to type read only there)
[17:58:34] <nagerst> aah ok
[17:58:48] <nagerst> so they are not really there, but in packages.
[17:58:52] <puckipedia> you can use package list $file.hpkg to check the contents of such a package
[17:59:13] <Diver> or Expander
[17:59:23] <puckipedia> same thing, except expander runs the command for you :P
[17:59:29] <Diver> yup
[17:59:42] <Diver> nagerst: so what happened after reboot?
[17:59:54] <Diver> do you see the folder now?
[18:00:17] <Diver> /system/apps/Qbittorrent/
[18:00:21] <nagerst> i used expander and moved the files to non-packaged/apps and now the program works.
[18:00:45] <Diver> but still, try to install hpkg
[18:01:15] <puckipedia> extracting a .hpkg and copying it to non-packaged/* is going against the entire idea of the hpkg :P
[18:02:09] <nagerst> puckipedia: I know, but it works
[18:02:20] <nagerst> Diver: I tried over and over.
[18:02:32] <puckipedia> tried removing the .hpkg file from the packages folder first?
[18:03:00] <Diver> oh yes, installing over doesn't always work
[18:03:03] <nagerst> puckipedia: yes indeed
[18:03:26] <nagerst> i deleted every qbittorrent file on the system and then reinstalled
[18:03:37] <nagerst> same result.
[18:03:39] <puckipedia> I meant the .hpkg file, not in non-packaged
[18:03:53] <nagerst> Expanding and putting it in the proper folder worked though, so i am happy
[18:04:21] <nagerst> puckipedia: I did too. I ment that i reinstalled the hpkg
[18:04:39] <Diver> do this:
[18:04:39] <Diver> tail -F /var/log/syslog
[18:04:39] <Diver> delete hpkg file from /system/packages
[18:04:39] <Diver> install it again
[18:04:52] <nagerst> ok, once more then.
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[18:07:05] <nagerst> hmmm now i got no network...
[18:08:03] <nagerst> I think haiku just dislikes me =D
[18:08:23] <puckipedia> well, you *did* get a fix into Haiku :P
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[18:09:34] <nagerst> i do not mean that #haiku dislikes me, i mean the ghost in the shell =D
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[18:13:41] <nagerst> ok now i reboot again
[18:14:36] <nagerst> yup now it is in /system/apps
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[18:15:53] <nagerst> all well that ends well
[18:16:09] <nagerst> Thank you all. But it is time for me to hit the hay
[18:16:19] <nagerst> Hope you have a lovely night
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[20:05:17] <Anarchos> mmu_man hi !
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[20:31:32] <HAIKU-irker005> aaa7d92685de: Preferences: improve layout.
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[21:04:20] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1520 of haiku-repository-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_hybrid/builds/1520
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[21:40:11] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49083 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=510eb73653d9+%5Eaaa7d92685de
[21:40:12] <HAIKU-irker005> 510eb73653d9: Add libdca
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[21:44:37] <Timothy_Gu> PulkoMandy: what still uses libdca?
[21:44:55] <Timothy_Gu> it's literally 6-year-old and unmaintained
[21:45:04] <PulkoMandy> VLC 0.8.6. We're stuck with that until someone ports a newer version with GUI
[21:45:48] <PulkoMandy> (after that version the VLC team removed the native BeOS GUI from it)
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[21:49:09] <Timothy_Gu> omg
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