April 19, 2015 
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April 19, 2015 [00:03:57] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[00:08:52] *** vdamewood has joined #haiku[00:09:15] *** Diver has quit IRC[00:13:15] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[00:14:05] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[00:40:39] *** pemdp has quit IRC[00:43:15] *** heoyea has joined #haiku[01:39:44] *** tqh has quit IRC[01:47:15] *** nighty^ has quit IRC[01:49:32] *** vdamewood has quit IRC[02:04:09] *** oblo has quit IRC[02:15:51] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[02:28:01] *** HAR1f has quit IRC[02:30:30] *** HAR1f has joined #haiku[02:45:05] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[02:56:07] *** HAR1f_ has joined #haiku[02:58:18] *** HAR1f has quit IRC[03:02:58] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #49 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2-debug is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2-debug/builds/49[03:28:30] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[03:38:13] *** Vidiot_ has quit IRC[03:40:14] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[03:55:08] *** Vidiot_ has joined #haiku[04:25:09] *** ___schily has joined #haiku[04:28:21] *** __schily_ has quit IRC[04:32:42] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #47 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid-debug is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-anyboot] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid-debug/builds/47[04:35:29] *** dr_evil_ has joined #haiku[04:39:33] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[04:40:16] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #48 of haiku-master-x86-debug is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-anyboot] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86-debug/builds/48[04:40:44] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #52 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid-debug is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-anyboot] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid-debug/builds/52[05:56:56] *** HAIKU-irker711 has quit IRC[05:58:43] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has quit IRC[06:00:55] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has joined #haiku[06:00:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-Buildbot[06:56:37] *** oco2 has quit IRC[07:27:40] *** jstressman has left #haiku[07:33:35] *** Diver has joined #haiku[07:33:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Diver[07:38:37] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[07:38:43] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[07:38:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[07:46:55] *** redblue has quit IRC[07:50:15] *** redblue has joined #haiku[08:07:17] *** Vidiot_ has quit IRC[08:11:22] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[08:11:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:18:08] *** kcj has joined #haiku[08:19:08] *** bbraun has quit IRC[08:19:10] *** Diver has quit IRC[08:19:27] *** bbraun has joined #haiku[09:14:42] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[09:23:51] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[09:23:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PulkoMandy[09:35:19] *** Not-5450 has joined #haiku[09:35:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Not-5450[09:35:20] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[09:35:24] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy f82814a - Fix goonies provides (haikuports bug #219)[09:44:48] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[09:53:00] *** hagen has quit IRC[09:53:25] *** DingoSaar has joined #haiku[10:33:32] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[10:33:36] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy f4e03cb - goonies: fix requires.[10:33:40] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy 1c52019 - twolame: fix requires.[10:34:54] <luroh> sorry for tormenting you, PulkoMandy :p[10:35:02] <PulkoMandy> :)[10:35:09] <PulkoMandy> someone has to clean things up[10:35:19] <PulkoMandy> however most of the problems are on Mesa side...[10:35:36] <luroh> it all started yesterday when some guy showed up in here having problems with glteapot[10:36:25] <luroh> then i decided to check out other opengl stuff, and things just kind of snowballed from there[10:39:15] <PulkoMandy> well, everything using Mesa is broken[10:39:43] <luroh> right, i found that out today[10:40:21] <PulkoMandy> I tried to fix the Mesa code but I don't understand enough of it[10:40:30] <PulkoMandy> so, waiting for kallisti5 to fix that part[10:40:58] <PulkoMandy> we could replace the debugger() call for #6400 with an error on the console[10:41:01] <luroh> i haven't checked for any ticket though, i just assumed there is one already[10:41:07] <PulkoMandy> which would leave things working[10:41:39] <PulkoMandy> kallisti5 did open a ticket and assign it to me. And I closed that as a duplicate of the ticket I opened some month ago and assigned to him...[10:41:50] <luroh> ah[10:42:05] *** pemdp has joined #haiku[10:42:09] <pemdp> Hi[10:42:17] <luroh> so it isn't all clear that the ball is in his court then[10:42:51] <luroh> nevermind, read that wrong[10:52:52] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[10:56:20] *** humdinger has quit IRC[10:56:51] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[10:58:44] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[11:01:21] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[11:04:18] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[11:04:25] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[11:04:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[11:15:39] *** kcj has quit IRC[11:16:10] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[11:16:40] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[11:17:28] *** Bodhi has joined #haiku[11:19:29] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[11:19:36] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[11:19:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[11:19:46] *** Megaf_ has joined #haiku[11:21:45] *** Megaf has quit IRC[11:26:40] *** HAIKU-irker806 has joined #haiku[11:26:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-irker806[11:27:10] <HAIKU-irker806> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49055 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ee93a8f4a16d+%5Eeebdc855b825[11:27:11] <HAIKU-irker806> 67334c1a2928: More dependencies for VLC[11:27:12] <HAIKU-irker806> ee93a8f4a16d: Fixed goonies package.[11:31:16] *** jessicah` has quit IRC[11:35:26] *** _3dEyes has joined #haiku[11:39:03] *** tqh has joined #haiku[11:46:32] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[11:53:35] <pemdp> Hi, is there any reason to build both linux and netbsd images on the Beagle ARM port?[11:58:00] <PulkoMandy> not really, the only difference is the way u-boot passes control to our stage2 bootloader[11:58:40] <PulkoMandy> we experimented with different solutions there, currently I think the "linux" style is the one to use as we get the FDT pointer there[12:05:50] <luroh> PulkoMandy: just trying to educate myself... how did you manage to build goonies and not run into "skipping goonies-1.4.1528, as the recipe is broken"?[12:06:21] * luroh is fairly clueless when it comes to haikuporter[12:07:01] <pemdp> Thanks Adrien[12:10:09] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[12:15:26] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[12:17:41] *** Akuji_ has joined #haiku[12:20:09] *** Akuji__ has joined #haiku[12:20:45] *** Akuji has quit IRC[12:21:50] <Anarchos> When i plug an LCD external screen, it is all blurry :/[12:23:05] *** Akuji_ has quit IRC[12:25:22] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[12:26:42] <Anarchos> Do i need to build with the subpixel option ?[12:31:48] <puckipedia> probably not[12:32:26] <puckipedia> either the resolution is not optimal, or it's something that causes the VGA signal to not be optimal and LCD can't focus on it for some reason[12:36:51] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[12:36:52] *** Bodhi has quit IRC[12:37:12] *** Akuji__ has quit IRC[12:48:31] <Anarchos> puckipedia my screen told me to use 1366*768 resolution.[12:48:59] *** dexterk has quit IRC[12:48:59] <puckipedia> are you using VGA? Also, which graphics card?[12:49:05] <Anarchos> by the way, i will look that after lunch[12:49:24] *** dexterk has joined #haiku[12:49:30] <Anarchos> puckipedia radeon_hd : device Display controller (VGA compatible controller, VGA controller) [3|0|0] vendor 1002: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] device 9804: Wrestler [Radeon HD 6250][12:49:34] <puckipedia> hmm[12:49:46] <Anarchos> puckipedia with vga cable :)[12:50:16] <puckipedia> hmm, not sure[12:51:24] <Anarchos> puckipedia not sure of what ?[12:51:43] <puckipedia> if it's the screen, graphics card, or if it's because you're using VGA[12:51:56] <puckipedia> (or a bug in Haiku)[12:59:28] *** Max-Might has joined #haiku[13:02:45] *** pemdp has quit IRC[13:03:08] *** pemdp has joined #haiku[13:05:33] <PulkoMandy> luroh: it builds only with gcc4, so you need to build "goonies_x86" instead of "goonies"[13:05:37] <PulkoMandy> (for gcc2h)[13:05:55] <luroh> ooh, i see. thanks[13:11:42] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[13:19:54] *** Diver has joined #haiku[13:19:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Diver[13:21:54] *** donliu has joined #haiku[13:22:18] *** puck1pedia has joined #haiku[13:23:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o puck1pedia[13:23:53] *** puckipedia has quit IRC[13:23:53] *** puck1pedia is now known as puckipedia[13:24:52] *** bslsk05 has quit IRC[13:25:08] *** bslsk05 has joined #haiku[13:25:44] <donliu> Hi, friends. When I empty trash there is an error: error emptying trash, does anyone know how to figure out what is wrong?[13:26:21] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[13:27:38] <donliu> may be it is filesystem error, before I delete that file to trash, installer met bad data error when copy that file.[13:28:01] <puckipedia> check the syslog: open terminal, then 'tail -f /var/log/syslog'[13:28:03] <luroh> donliu: sounds like https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/7763[13:28:48] <_3dEyes> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4494939/ScreenShots/Sane/sane_haiku_gray_75dpi.png[13:31:09] <luroh> nice, _3dEyes :)[13:33:04] <_3dEyes> luroh: Unfortunately it is not suitable for using (. libusb is unstable and buggy[13:33:33] <_3dEyes> if i increase dpi - http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4494939/ScreenShots/Sane/sane_haiku_samsung_clx_3305.png[13:33:53] <luroh> ah, but still, there is life[13:33:54] <_3dEyes> and i have deadlock after any scaning[13:36:46] <donliu> Thank you. In Syslog: bfs:InitCheck:323:Bad data. bfs:KERN:inode at 2668113 is already deleted.[13:38:59] <puckipedia> hm[13:42:04] *** [r4] has quit IRC[13:42:56] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[13:43:36] <PulkoMandy> donliu: you can try running checkfs on that partition[13:43:52] <PulkoMandy> (run "checkfs /boot" in Terminal if it is your system partition)[13:51:55] *** donliu has quit IRC[13:54:31] *** donliu has joined #haiku[13:54:59] <donliu> thanks a lot, checks shows that some inodes could not be opened include the one can not be deleted[13:55:36] <puckipedia> technically the contents were deleted, but it didn't remove the link to the data I think[13:58:02] *** heoyea has quit IRC[13:58:31] <PulkoMandy> people playing with haikuports: help triaging http://ports.haiku-files.org/report/1 is appreciated. We are trying to get these tickets solved so we can shutdown ports.haiku-files.org and work with only the bitbucket website[13:58:45] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[13:59:26] <PulkoMandy> checking if some of these tickets are invalid because there already is a recipe at the new haikuports, if the provided patches can be turned into recipes with the current syntax, etc[14:00:45] *** donliu has quit IRC[14:00:50] <luroh> if they aren't, can't they simply be dumped into haikuports marked as broken?[14:01:51] <PulkoMandy> I prefer getting them fixed :)[14:02:03] <PulkoMandy> (there is sometimes interesting info in the ticket comments, which would be lost otherwise)[14:02:17] <luroh> ah[14:02:45] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[14:04:30] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[14:04:37] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[14:04:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[14:08:57] *** rkbm has quit IRC[14:09:09] *** rkbm has joined #haiku[14:11:00] <_3dEyes> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4494939/ScreenShots/Sane/sane_haiku_besane.png[14:12:37] *** HAIKU-irker806 has quit IRC[14:17:02] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[14:22:06] <_3dEyes> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4494939/ScreenShots/Sane/sane_haiku_sanity_600dpi.png[14:29:20] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[14:33:35] <luroh> nice, both colour and high dpi, getting there :)[14:33:43] *** luroh has quit IRC[15:02:56] *** skbot1041 has quit IRC[15:03:10] *** soakbot has joined #haiku[15:03:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[15:04:32] *** HAIKU-irker005 has joined #haiku[15:04:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-irker005[15:05:02] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: janus * hrev49056 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=2a1583cbc059+%5Eee93a8f4a16d[15:05:03] <HAIKU-irker005> 2a1583cbc059: Preferences: Consistent buttons position and spacing.[15:07:06] *** [r4] has quit IRC[15:15:06] <Cenbe> Where should APlayer be available from?[15:17:30] <PulkoMandy> depends which version you want[15:17:46] <PulkoMandy> http://www.polycode.dk/ has the latest BeOS release[15:18:11] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[15:18:30] <PulkoMandy> http://pulkomandy.tk/projects/APlayer has sources for building a slightly improved version for Haiku, but I still haven't made a release of this one[15:18:33] <HaikuUser> прива[15:19:08] <HaikuUser> наркоманы[15:19:51] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[15:24:49] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[15:26:36] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[15:28:55] *** myrkraverk has joined #haiku[15:37:02] *** luroh has joined #haiku[15:38:24] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[15:42:11] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[15:42:18] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[15:42:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[15:42:57] *** Akuji has quit IRC[15:48:41] <Cenbe> PlukoMandy: I was asking because I have a .pkg file for it and I have no idea where it came from.[15:51:30] <PulkoMandy> mh, not an official source then[15:51:41] <PulkoMandy> there is a recipe for it in haikuports but I'm not even sure it works[15:54:46] <Not-5450> [haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[15:54:50] <Not-5450> [haikuports] diversys 5e3ff62 - Caya: cleanup INSTALL[16:00:20] *** pemdp has quit IRC[16:00:28] <Cenbe> A release would be very nice :)[16:00:59] <PulkoMandy> yes, but there are some fxes I think are important[16:01:29] <PulkoMandy> it does not use the system mixer, and can't use native sample rate of modern sound cards, so it distorts the sound rather badly[16:01:42] <PulkoMandy> it uses sidplay v1 so many C64 SID files will fail to play[16:01:47] <PulkoMandy> and a few other things like that[16:08:13] *** earthnative has quit IRC[16:08:54] *** earthnative has joined #haiku[16:14:17] *** oblo has joined #haiku[16:26:49] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[16:26:53] *** _3dEyes has quit IRC[16:34:09] *** tqh has quit IRC[17:09:36] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 4 commits to master [+4/-2/±2] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[17:09:40] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy ac0682d - libsigc++: fix recipes. - 1.2 is not backwards compatible so keep it around, - Upgrade 2.2 to 2.4 which is easier to build.[17:09:45] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy 1e2667e - physfs: missing escaping in description[17:09:48] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy 08af75d - Paragui: add recipe. Fixes http://ports.haiku-files.org/ticket/83[17:09:53] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy 9dab250 - sigc++-1.2: missing include in install scripts[17:31:31] *** pemdp has joined #haiku[17:35:39] *** pemdp has quit IRC[17:38:40] *** zer0her0 has joined #haiku[17:46:07] *** luroh has quit IRC[17:48:30] *** Vidiot_ has joined #haiku[17:50:09] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[17:55:48] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[17:55:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[18:02:37] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:04:14] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[18:04:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PulkoMandy[18:13:43] *** axeld has joined #haiku[18:13:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[18:14:05] *** axeld has quit IRC[18:14:15] *** axeld has joined #haiku[18:14:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[18:16:43] *** axeld has quit IRC[18:16:49] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49057 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5265e873afa6+%5E2a1583cbc059[18:16:50] <HAIKU-irker005> eaa1235c26c7: 53c8xx: build fixes.[18:16:51] <HAIKU-irker005> 5265e873afa6: Add more vlc dependncies + Fix Caya and add paragui[18:16:56] *** axeld has joined #haiku[18:16:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[18:20:21] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[18:20:40] <humdinger> hullo jstressman[18:22:05] <humdinger> brb[18:22:06] *** luroh has joined #haiku[18:22:07] * humdinger is idle: BRB[18:24:55] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:25:32] *** hagen has joined #haiku[18:26:52] *** zer0her0 has quit IRC[18:28:49] *** DingoSaar has quit IRC[18:31:48] *** oblo has quit IRC[18:32:14] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-1/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[18:32:18] <Not-5450> [haikuports] begasus be6e033 - dumb, new updated recipe[18:32:22] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy 248b539 - Merged in Begasus/haikuports_games/dumb (pull request #507) dumb library, new recipe[18:38:22] * humdinger has returned[18:38:34] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1639 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/1639[18:39:20] <humdinger> jstressman: I did most of the remaining icons for Beezer. Some suck more than others... :)[18:39:52] <humdinger> The one remaining is for "Tools". I just can't come up with something remotely good looking.[19:06:01] *** ablyss has joined #haiku[19:15:48] *** ablyss has quit IRC[19:16:28] *** Vidiot_ has quit IRC[19:19:32] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[19:19:34] *** oblo has joined #haiku[19:19:41] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[19:19:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PulkoMandy[19:23:21] <humdinger> Hi PulkoMandy![19:24:13] <humdinger> That Goonies game sure has an unconventional folder hierarchy...[19:24:50] <_Dario> humdinger, what program uses to create HVIF icons? Just icon-o-matic ?[19:24:59] <humdinger> yep.[19:25:12] <_Dario> thanks humdinger.[19:25:18] <humdinger> You could create a SVG and import in I-O-M though.[19:28:01] *** hagen has quit IRC[19:28:33] *** DingoSaar has joined #haiku[19:30:44] <_Dario> to import svg file in IOM, just open the SVG from File menu?[19:31:18] <humdinger> I think so.[19:31:24] <humdinger> or drag'n'drop[19:31:42] *** [Beta] has joined #haiku[19:31:56] <_Dario> I tried that with an SVG created in "Graffiti", but dont work[19:32:11] *** johndrinkwater has quit IRC[19:32:18] *** [Beta] is now known as johndrinkwater[19:32:27] <_Dario> I asked because that... :D[19:33:10] <humdinger> Seems to depend on the SVG... I just tried a few. Some work some don't.[19:33:46] <humdinger> I know I did a few in WonderBrush and exported as SVG from there. I-O-M import of those always worked.[19:34:45] <_Dario> oh, I will try to use Wonderbrush.[19:39:13] <humdinger> Using WonderBrush is nice, because you can put a bitmap image in a layer, trace it to vectors in another and then export/import via SVG to I-O-M to create the final hvif icon.[19:43:10] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[19:58:09] *** FreeFull has quit IRC[20:00:53] *** sambagirl has joined #haiku[20:02:30] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[20:02:47] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[20:10:33] *** humdinger has quit IRC[20:11:36] *** [r4] has quit IRC[20:12:05] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[20:31:21] *** Max-Might has quit IRC[20:33:31] *** Max-Might has joined #haiku[20:42:55] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[20:49:49] *** Vidiot_ has joined #haiku[20:51:31] *** Max_Might has joined #haiku[21:02:42] *** Thunderblade has joined #haiku[21:02:58] *** Thunderblade has quit IRC[21:03:06] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[21:03:26] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[21:11:01] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[21:11:26] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[21:26:24] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[21:26:47] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[21:27:05] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[21:32:22] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[21:40:49] *** SunWuKung has joined #haiku[21:45:22] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[21:45:26] <Not-5450> [haikuports] pulkomandy cb2aa6e - Add cmake 3.2.2. * Most of our patches were upstreamed.[21:47:13] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[22:04:07] *** SunWuKung has quit IRC[22:08:38] *** axeld has quit IRC[22:08:52] *** axeld has joined #haiku[22:08:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[22:10:10] *** [r4] has quit IRC[22:16:25] <kallisti5> PulkoMandy: luroh: OpenGL is perfect. (tm)[22:16:42] <kallisti5> which renderer? software rast or software pipe?[22:16:55] <PulkoMandy> I think it is not in the renderer code, but in BGLView[22:17:35] <PulkoMandy> mh[22:17:40] <PulkoMandy> actually it's in swrast[22:17:40] <PulkoMandy> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/tree/src/mesa/drivers/haiku/swrast/SoftwareRast.cpp#n180[22:17:49] <PulkoMandy> but possibly the same code exists in softpipe?[22:18:12] <PulkoMandy> basically, this LockGL is later unlocked from another thread, which doesn't work[22:18:32] <PulkoMandy> so the GL context stays locked forever, and I'm not sure how this can work at all[22:18:38] <PulkoMandy> (in BeOS this was allowed, however)[22:20:38] <kallisti5> ah. Yeah, lockgl -> application draws -> unlockgl[22:21:00] <kallisti5> ( in theory) some beos apps like quake 3 didn't do it right and didn't lock the gl before drawing :-\[22:21:49] <PulkoMandy> so, we should fix the apps :)[22:21:56] <PulkoMandy> or lock this in the correct thread :)[22:26:38] *** Max-Might has quit IRC[22:26:57] *** [r4] has joined #haiku[22:27:14] *** DaaT has joined #haiku[22:27:21] *** Max_Might has quit IRC[22:40:10] *** premoboss has joined #haiku[22:40:29] *** pemdp has joined #haiku[22:40:32] <pemdp> Hi[22:40:43] <premoboss> how far haiku is to be usable on ARM boards?[22:41:27] <DaaT> boas pemdp, tudo bem?[22:41:44] <DaaT> premoboss: not much, it crashes fairly early in the bootup process iirc[22:42:01] <pemdp> Hi DaaT! Td :)[22:42:27] <premoboss> DaaT, in orter words, it is before any kind of usability.[22:42:36] <DaaT> :)[22:42:37] <premoboss> DaaT, in other words, it is before any kind of usability.[22:42:38] <DaaT> premoboss: yep[22:42:46] <pemdp> The beagle image shows the initial icons[22:43:33] <geist> will need SD/MMC stack at some point too[22:43:38] <premoboss> to me it would be enought it run and ca nbe accessed by remote with ssh[22:43:49] <geist> depends on the board then[22:44:50] <premoboss> i run cubieboard (ARMv7) and i would like to find some different from linux to run on it. but apparently no other kernel than linux is usable.[22:46:24] <kallisti5> premoboss: I have the haiku_loader working on the cubieboard4[22:46:31] <pemdp> By the way, newbie question: does anyone know why different boards have different loading addresses for the haiku_loader?[22:46:46] <kallisti5> the same boardconfig should work for the cubieboard1-3 with slight modifications to the firmware URL's[22:47:04] <kallisti5> (the SD card blessing process is the same for all allwinner soc's)[22:47:09] <geist> hmm, wonder what the eth looks like[22:47:11] <geist> is it built in?[22:47:37] <kallisti5> looks at board[22:47:42] <premoboss> kallisti5, good news. but how much far you can go? can you reach the stage of an usable eviroinment? at least a coomand line drom remote withe ssh?[22:47:55] <kallisti5> geist: nah. realtek next to eth[22:48:06] <geist> think it's on the other side of usb?[22:48:10] <geist> that might just be a PHY[22:48:12] <kallisti5> rtl8211e[22:48:23] <geist> yeah that's just a PHY[22:48:32] <kallisti5> ok. then it's on the soc[22:48:33] <geist> thats a good sign, means the MAC is probably built into the soc[22:48:39] <kallisti5> allwinner A80[22:48:43] <kallisti5> 8 core arm[22:48:51] <kallisti5> axp809[22:49:03] <geist> wel.... lets see[22:49:03] <premoboss> it is not 8 core, it is 4+4 core :([22:49:14] <kallisti5> premoboss: two quad core cpus on the same die[22:49:21] <geist> yeah that's a phy[22:49:41] <premoboss> i mean, 4 core of one tpe, 4 core od another type.[22:49:49] <premoboss> i mean, 4 core of one type, 4 core od another type.[22:49:51] <kallisti5> 4x Cortex-A15 + 4x Cortex-A7[22:49:54] <geist> yep[22:49:55] <premoboss> yes[22:50:13] <kallisti5> not a fan of the whole "blessing" an sd card thing[22:50:14] <geist> that's a pretty common design. they're symmetric in the sense that both clusters are identical feature-wise[22:50:23] <kallisti5> geist: they also don't use fdt :-([22:50:28] <geist> kallisti5: yeah, sounds like allwinner crap. is it some sort of header?[22:50:33] <premoboss> i dislike this kund of triks in core count: to me, all core must be identical, otherwhise i call it "trikc"[22:50:38] <geist> kallisti5: told ya not to put too many eggs in that basket[22:50:50] <kallisti5> geist: lol. we can still write an fdt.[22:50:51] <geist> premoboss: it's for a specific reason. in haikus case it should probably just ignore the a7s for now[22:51:00] <geist> kallisti5: waste of time![22:51:10] <kallisti5> geist: it's some allwinner crap that gets blob'ed onto the u-boot binary :-\[22:51:11] <geist> until you support a ton of boards in the same family[22:51:30] <kallisti5> geist: netbsd already has fdt's for the cubieboard1-3 :-)[22:51:46] <premoboss> i know big.LITTLE achitecture ad the motivation for it, nevertheless i dislike it. no matter of haiku, it is a matter of ARM designers.[22:51:52] <geist> well, not gonna argue this one any more. i'm actually dead serious. i think it's a huge distraction[22:52:33] <kallisti5> geist: lol. The FDT stuff is done honestly. We can detect what drivers to use from the fdt[22:52:49] <kallisti5> at this point we're at the mmu not working on the raspberry pi 2[22:52:55] <geist> *exactly*[22:53:03] <geist> get the fundamentals working, hard code it so you can get it done[22:53:08] <geist> *then* worry about how to do it nicely[22:53:17] <kallisti5> geist: i'm in over my head on the mmu stuff[22:53:27] <geist> otherwise it's a huge distraction that pulls precious brain cycles away from a project that has been going on for 10 years (get haiku running on ARM)[22:53:41] <geist> what the haiku arm project needs is some progress, not structure[22:54:02] <kallisti5> geist: I did do progress... we now boot to the kernel on the raspberry pi 2 :P[22:54:09] <geist> same thing with a bunch of boards. focus on one, get it going[22:54:14] <geist> cubie is neat, but dont let it distract you[22:54:22] *** FreeFull has joined #haiku[22:54:34] <geist> put it in a drawer until you get the rpi working, then consider pulling it out[22:54:40] <kallisti5> yeah.. it only distracted me for a bit... I'm working on the rpi2 again since I got the loader running on the cubieboard4[22:54:59] <PulkoMandy> kallisti5: not to mention you had broken beagle to get pi running[22:55:13] <kallisti5> PulkoMandy: shh, sshh, shhhh.[22:55:15] <PulkoMandy> and now we have yet another hack in the early mmu setup code to get both[22:55:30] <geist> that's going to be a general problem going forward. i'd suggest doing the rpi stuff on a branch[22:55:36] <geist> break it all, then fix it[22:55:50] <kallisti5> PulkoMandy: yeah... i have no idea how we can handle so many diff. memory configurations[22:56:05] <kallisti5> the fact that everyone does everything completely different is really annoying[22:56:08] <PulkoMandy> simple: don't. Get it running on ONE board[22:56:14] <geist> exactly[22:56:14] <PulkoMandy> we'll see about that later[22:56:27] <kallisti5> it is running on one board. I just need help[22:56:50] <kallisti5> .. and more free time[22:57:04] * kallisti5 glares at his ultimaker 2[22:58:52] <premoboss> kallisti5, ignore rpi2, stay on cubietruck. pleae[22:59:05] <PulkoMandy> the beagle xm needs the SD card stack running[22:59:06] <kallisti5> premoboss: rpi2 is working more[22:59:10] <PulkoMandy> then we can get to the rootfs[22:59:27] <premoboss> kallisti5, i se pri everywhere, i get mat to see it everywhere![22:59:38] <PulkoMandy> when we get a bit more of the kernel running we will have a more comfortable environment to debug the mmu code[22:59:41] <PulkoMandy> (and other things[22:59:43] <premoboss> fuc+ off rpi![23:01:29] <pemdp> You can always forget Beagle xm and rpi2 and focus on the ARM Chromebook effort. ;-)[23:03:29] <PulkoMandy> everyone has his preferred device…[23:03:33] *** oblo has quit IRC[23:03:58] <geist> yah, rpi2 is not perfect, but it has the nice property of being very cheap, so it's reasonable to expect everyone developing arm can get one[23:04:04] <geist> and it has quad core[23:04:08] <geist> downsides, almost everything else :)[23:04:09] <pemdp> What is the criteria for the haiku_loader address? Different boards configurations have different addresses.[23:04:54] <mmu_man> the physical RAM address mostly[23:05:01] <mmu_man> not all board have it start at 0[23:05:53] <PulkoMandy> the haiku_loader is in charge of enabling the MMU (which allows us to then map the memory where we want it)[23:06:06] <PulkoMandy> so it uses physical RAM addresses instead of virtual ones[23:06:24] <PulkoMandy> and then jump through some tricks to enable the MMU without making itself inacessible from the CPU[23:08:20] <pemdp> thanks[23:16:22] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[23:16:39] *** pemdp has quit IRC[23:16:51] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[23:17:14] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[23:19:20] *** oblo has joined #haiku[23:20:37] *** scanty has quit IRC[23:32:09] *** scanty has joined #haiku[23:34:02] *** scanty has quit IRC[23:34:54] *** scanty has joined #haiku[23:39:11] *** DaaT has quit IRC[23:49:39] <HAIKU-irker005> haiku.master: mmlr * hrev49058 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=62d30d9e49d5+%5E5265e873afa6[23:49:40] <HAIKU-irker005> 62d30d9e49d5: libmedia: Put AddOnManager into BPrivate::media namespace.[23:54:43] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:57:55] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1640 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/1640 blamelist: Michael Lotz <mmlr at mlotz dot ch>[23:59:57] *** simpbrain has quit IRC