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[00:01:29] <Ptrus> usb3?
[00:01:45] <Ptrus> Haiku onlu boots on usb2
[00:01:57] <ex-parrot> this is usb2
[00:02:07] <Ptrus> :(
[00:03:33] <Ptrus> try safe boot options? file:///boot/system/documentation/userguide/en/bootloader.html
[00:03:53] <ex-parrot> doesn't even get that far
[00:04:01] <ex-parrot> the BIOS on the machine fails over the boot device and moves on to the internal HDD :(
[00:04:54] <Ptrus> hmmm
[00:05:23] <Ptrus> might be the usb stick, some just don't work for booting.
[00:05:56] <ex-parrot> it definitely boots linux, it'
[00:06:01] <ex-parrot> it's my old linux boot rescue disk 8^)
[00:06:32] <Ptrus> not the stick then.
[00:06:47] <ex-parrot> kvm doesn't recognise the image as bootable either
[00:06:56] <ex-parrot> OH THIS THING
[00:06:58] <ex-parrot> the image is zipped
[00:07:00] <ex-parrot> this got me last time too
[00:07:09] <ex-parrot> I spent hours trying to work out why it wouldn't boot but it's because it's compressed :)
[00:07:50] <ex-parrot> as you were :)
[00:08:08] <Ptrus> ... :/
[00:09:20] <jessicah`> lol
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[00:15:26] <ex-parrot> now it boots :)
[00:16:18] <ex-parrot> notification_server crashed immediately \o/
[00:28:13] <jessicah`> datetime & timezone code sucks
[00:28:29] <ex-parrot> +1
[00:28:52] <jessicah`> I don't know if the tests I'm running are supposed to work no matter the timezone or not =/
[00:30:11] <ex-parrot> appearance manager says hinting + subpixel rendering aren't available together, but it does seem to be working
[00:30:37] <ex-parrot> ah maybe it's just doing greyscale antialiasing
[00:31:40] <ex-parrot> this is nice
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[00:33:10] <jessicah`> hmm, I'm going to have to try get ubuntu booting on my airbook again so I can compare test results there
[00:33:28] <ex-parrot> oh yeah, I should try it on my air again as well
[00:33:41] <ex-parrot> last time it ran excellently
[00:34:51] <ex-parrot> still need to find a replacement wifi card
[00:35:43] <jessicah`> brr, I'm not a fan of this cooler weather
[00:35:45] <ex-parrot> is there a particular card favoured for haiku support?
[00:35:46] <jessicah`> so ick >_<
[00:35:49] <ex-parrot> I reckon
[00:35:55] <jessicah`> i think atheros?
[00:35:56] <ex-parrot> still, better than that "polar blast" nonsense
[00:36:00] <jessicah`> just not the newest
[00:36:10] <ex-parrot> right-o
[00:36:10] <jessicah`> that was freeeezing!
[00:36:19] <ex-parrot> it was pretty brutal
[00:36:21] <jessicah`> was almost 0 degrees overnight after all the snowfall
[00:36:37] <ex-parrot> gheez, it only got down to ~ 5 degrees here
[00:37:02] <ex-parrot> I spent the week prior in perth, I can highly recommend its climate at this time of year :)
[00:37:05] <jessicah`> had a big dumping of snow on ruapehu
[00:37:12] <jessicah`> ;)
[00:38:34] <jessicah`> one thing to dislike about aluminium laptops is how freaking cold to the touch they are :p
[00:39:27] <ex-parrot> yeah, I bought my air in winter the day before a trip to dunedin
[00:39:38] <ex-parrot> left it out on a table overnight, woke up in the morning and was impressed at how cold it had gotten
[00:40:04] <ex-parrot> it doesn't stay that way when powered on though 8^)
[00:40:13] <jessicah`> :)
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[00:40:52] <jessicah`> oh I suppose I can run my test on os x too
[00:40:52] <ex-parrot> I have a novena arriving sometime in the next cuople of weeks
[00:40:53] <jessicah`> heh
[00:40:58] <jessicah`> novena?
[00:41:16] <ex-parrot> http://www.kosagi.com/w/index.php?title=Novena_Main_Page
[00:41:27] <ex-parrot> will be interested to see how the pi2 port goes as the hardware is broadly similar in the novena
[00:41:57] <jessicah`> I got pages of links to religious websites for novena :p lulz
[00:42:16] <ex-parrot> https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/novenalaunch-1.jpg?w=580&h=427 <-- I ordered the laptop model
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[00:43:45] <jessicah`> huh, neat
[00:47:45] <jessicah`> hmm, my testcase runs without error on OS X
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[07:05:51] <Barclay> hi
[07:07:13] <Barclay> nobody here?
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[07:08:39] <barclay-xxxxx5> hi all
[07:09:17] <barclay-xxxxx5> nobody here??
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[07:23:38] <steven-dale-940> Hey
[07:23:39] <steven-dale-940> :3
[07:37:19] <geist> nice. good ol ask and bail
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[10:20:13] <humdinger> How can I tell the Terminal to (temporarily permanently) use another shell?
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[10:40:56] <Diver> humdinger: perhaps you need to change /etc/passwd
[10:42:27] <Diver> just tried to change /bin/sh to /bin/zsh and that didn't work
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[10:43:22] <humdinger> Diver: yep. doesn't work :)
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[10:44:02] <Diver> strings /system/apps/Terminal | grep bin
[10:44:02] <Diver> /bin/sh seems to be hardcoded
[10:44:20] <humdinger> Terminal accepts a shell as parameter
[10:44:26] <humdinger> that seems to work.
[10:45:10] <Diver> http://grok.bikemonkey.org/source/xref/haiku/src/apps/terminal/Shell.cpp#76
[10:45:47] <humdinger> Usage: Terminal [OPTION] [SHELL]
[10:45:53] <humdinger> Terminal /tmp/sh
[10:46:03] <humdinger> works when I have copied the shell to /tmp
[10:46:25] <Diver> hmm, zsh package provides /bin/sh link, so it shouldn't be a problem
[10:47:15] <humdinger> I'm just trying out jörg schilling's bourne again shell by copying the compiled binary to /tmp.
[10:47:32] <Diver> so no need to change /etc/passwd. I wonder why it still defaults to bash if I have zsh installed then
[10:47:33] <humdinger> funnily enough, that opened Terminal closes as soon as I do a "ls"
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[11:43:16] <axeld> humdinger: actually, looking at the code, it should pick up the shell from /etc/passwd
[11:43:28] <axeld> However, maybe you need to restart to let it take effect
[11:43:56] <axeld> (it could be that the registrar caches the value upon start)
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[11:52:38] <Diver> axeld: /etc/passwd has /bin/sh and it is provided by zsh package
[11:52:52] <Diver> however, Terminal still uses bash...
[11:59:17] <axeld> Diver: that doesn't really make much sense. And when you manually launch /bin/sh from there, it's still bash?
[12:00:00] <Diver> sec
[12:02:17] <Diver> oh, it seems that I actually had /bin/bash there. Now after reboot Terminal loads zsh
[12:02:40] <Diver> with this warning though
[12:02:40] <Diver> "/etc/profile:32: command not found: shopt"
[12:03:00] <Diver> so yeah, a restart is needed
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[14:33:36] <Dane__> greetings
[14:33:44] <Dane__> Any idea why the following wouldn't work?
[14:33:46] <Dane__> ln /boot/system/apps/QupZilla/qupzilla /boot/home/Desktop/SomeLinkName
[14:34:08] <Dane__> I get a "failed to create hard link" error
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[14:56:33] <mmu_man> plop
[14:56:34] <mmu_man> Dane__:
[14:56:47] <mmu_man> Dane__: ln -s
[14:56:49] <Dane> mmu_man: Hey there
[14:56:51] <Dane> ah
[14:56:59] <Dane> what does the -s do?
[14:57:12] <mmu_man> makes a symlink instead of a hardlink which BFS doesn't support
[14:57:19] <Dane> oic
[14:57:21] <Dane> Thanks much
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