April 13, 2015 
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April 13, 2015 [00:09:01] *** Dane has joined #haiku[00:19:05] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[00:24:06] *** oblo has quit IRC[00:25:17] *** return0e has quit IRC[00:31:28] *** Dane has quit IRC[00:33:08] *** oblo has joined #haiku[00:41:44] *** nagerst has quit IRC[00:52:38] *** Akuji has quit IRC[00:56:52] *** Dane has joined #haiku[01:03:18] *** sambagirl has quit IRC[01:03:24] *** nagerst has joined #haiku[01:03:44] *** sambagirl has joined #haiku[01:07:47] *** DaaT has quit IRC[01:21:45] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has quit IRC[01:23:19] *** Hare has quit IRC[01:39:16] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[01:42:03] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has joined #haiku[01:44:21] *** Dane has quit IRC[02:02:04] *** Theoden has joined #haiku[02:05:22] *** Theoden has quit IRC[02:05:56] *** NeonLicht has quit IRC[02:07:07] <Timothy_Gu> any plans for updating to GCC 5?[02:18:01] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has quit IRC[02:20:18] *** oblo has quit IRC[02:21:30] *** Dane has joined #haiku[02:21:32] *** Dane has quit IRC[02:22:07] *** Dane has joined #haiku[02:25:32] <mmu_man> not today at least :p[02:25:43] <mmu_man> but you can send a patch[02:25:44] <mmu_man> n8[02:26:49] *** Dane has quit IRC[02:29:57] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:30:33] *** luroh has quit IRC[02:36:58] *** Guma_ has quit IRC[02:38:06] *** Guma has joined #haiku[02:44:58] *** Dane has joined #haiku[02:53:34] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[02:59:22] *** Megaf_ has joined #haiku[03:01:21] *** Megaf has quit IRC[03:02:24] *** Guma is now known as Guma_[03:07:19] *** soakbot has quit IRC[03:07:33] *** soakbot has joined #haiku[03:07:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[03:09:59] *** Guma_ is now known as Guma[03:13:06] *** _marc` has quit IRC[03:26:55] *** nighty^ has quit IRC[03:28:00] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[03:46:17] <geist> oh hey, you're right. gcc 5 is out[03:47:24] <geist> i think? it's confusing. i dont see an official release announcement[03:47:54] <geist> so i guess it isn't yet? must just be in final mode[04:03:13] <jessicah> it's not out yet[04:03:22] <jessicah> still in regression fixing according the gnu website[04:03:30] <jessicah> weird that it's called gcc 5.1 though[04:04:39] <jessicah> an upgrade to gcc 4.9 might be nice though, with things like asan and friends[04:06:36] *** eschatologist has joined #haiku[04:06:56] *** sambagirl has quit IRC[04:11:11] <jessicah> hey eschatologist, did you have much luck with the e1000 driver?[04:11:13] <eschatologist> I was able to build a custom ipro1000 driver via "jam ipro1000" and it looks like it's being loaded but not used.[04:11:32] <eschatologist> I was just about to ask how to pass DEBUG=1 when building the driver, should it just be "jam DEBUG=1 ipro1000"?[04:12:11] <jessicah> I think it's -sDEBUG=1[04:12:12] <eschatologist> I haven't dealt with Jam since Xcode 3.[04:12:35] <eschatologist> I'll give that a shot, thanks![04:12:49] <eschatologist> (Should be quick to rebuild on my rMBP…)[04:13:32] <jessicah> also see the UserBuildConfig.* files under build/jam[04:14:28] <jessicah> you might also want to try blacklisting the driver in the haiku package[04:15:13] *** oco2 has quit IRC[04:15:36] <jessicah> see http://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/blacklist-packages[04:16:17] <eschatologist> Ah, cool. Thanks![04:17:06] <eschatologist> On this new system (4GHz 8-core i7 4790K) I though the CPU activity meter was broken. Nope, Haiku's just efficient enough almost nothing in normal use actually causes the meter to blip.[04:17:27] <jessicah> :p[04:17:41] <jessicah> nice[04:17:46] <eschatologist> My BeBox on the other hand…[04:18:12] <eschatologist> BeOS R5 doesn't have USB for PowerPC, right? I was thinking the Haiku USB stack could probably be backported.[04:18:16] *** Dane has quit IRC[04:18:24] <jessicah> I have no idea[04:18:52] <jessicah> an 8-core i7 would be nice to have...[04:18:59] <jessicah> I should upgrade this box at some point[04:19:48] <jessicah> do you normally need a new motherboard when going up a family with Intel Core CPUs?[04:19:59] <eschatologist> The Asus Z97-PRO motherboard, 16GB RAM, and CPU wound up being like $600 at Newegg.[04:21:34] <eschatologist> I wasn't originally planning on making a system that beefy, but the price was too good to pass up…[04:22:01] <jessicah> :)[04:22:33] <eschatologist> Haiku already felt instant on the 10-year-old 2.5GB Athlon 1800+ system it replaced.[04:22:43] <eschatologist> Ubuntu, however…[04:23:52] <eschatologist> Is there anything else I need to do to make dprintf() output show up?[04:25:17] <jessicah> there's often a specific debug define to enable in the sources[04:26:15] <jessicah> http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/ipro1000/debug.h[04:29:59] <eschatologist> Aha. Though the driver seems to have both direct dprintf and other calls.[04:31:24] *** Guma is now known as Guma_[04:35:11] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[04:35:56] <eschatologist> Aha! I have the wrong PCI ID. e1000_hw.h doesn't actually cover the I218_LM2/_V2, I have the _V2. Fortunately Intel had a patch for another project that indicated the LM2/V2 and LM3/V3 are just new IDs for the same stuff.[04:37:28] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[04:37:37] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[04:37:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[04:39:55] *** Guma_ is now known as Guma[04:41:20] *** Dane has joined #haiku[04:42:39] *** dr_evil_ has joined #haiku[04:45:41] *** Dane has quit IRC[04:46:07] *** dr_evil has quit IRC[04:57:39] *** Dane has joined #haiku[05:00:07] <eschatologist> Woot![05:00:54] <eschatologist> Finally got the last of the I218_{LM,V} → I218_{LM2/LM3,V2/V3} mappings added and it works![05:02:09] <eschatologist> Now to put some instructions in the ticket. (I can't contribute code, unfortunately, without a huge amount of red tape and even so may not be allowed to.)[05:04:37] *** mixomathoze has quit IRC[05:05:15] <jessicah> you have to sign a contract?[05:05:23] <jessicah> google does that too...[05:06:43] <eschatologist> Most major companies have blanket intellectual property assignments for their employees. It's why the "Your résumé is your GitHub!" idea among the bubble companies is so laughable.[05:06:59] <jessicah> :p[05:10:34] *** mixomathoze has joined #haiku[05:11:37] <hamishm> surely only work pertaining to your employment at that company[05:20:16] <eschatologist> The idea of what pertains to one's employment can be very slippery.[05:20:35] <eschatologist> For example, while I don't work on drivers for a consumer operating system, my employer produces a (major) consumer operating system.[05:21:12] <eschatologist> So it pertains to their market, even if not directly my job. And I quite like what I do, so I'm not going to argue it with them.[05:22:24] *** Dane has quit IRC[05:24:37] *** _marc` has quit IRC[05:25:30] <hamishm> fair enough[05:26:10] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[05:27:33] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[05:29:32] <eschatologist> Thanks for all the help![05:29:34] <jessicah> personally I don't see how providing instructions is any different[05:29:41] <jessicah> that's essentially what code is![05:31:52] *** Akuji has quit IRC[06:01:14] *** Dane has joined #haiku[06:17:31] *** Guma has quit IRC[06:18:41] *** Guma has joined #haiku[06:22:13] *** Guma has quit IRC[06:24:33] *** Dane has quit IRC[06:31:11] *** Guma has joined #haiku[07:02:34] *** rNyhus has joined #haiku[07:09:34] *** Guma has quit IRC[07:30:26] *** AsalleKim has joined #haiku[07:45:30] *** heoyea has quit IRC[07:50:31] *** Dane has joined #haiku[08:01:55] *** tqh has joined #haiku[08:03:45] *** eschatologist has quit IRC[08:07:49] *** AsalleKim has quit IRC[08:09:12] *** AsalleKim has joined #haiku[08:09:47] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[08:14:15] *** avril14th has quit IRC[08:17:16] *** Dane has quit IRC[08:17:46] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[08:18:56] *** avril14th has joined #haiku[08:20:58] *** _marc` has quit IRC[08:22:51] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[08:28:00] *** tqh has quit IRC[08:32:59] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[08:35:13] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[08:40:27] *** heoyea has joined #haiku[08:51:42] *** Diver1 has quit IRC[08:53:56] *** Diver has joined #haiku[08:53:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Diver[08:55:17] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[09:16:25] *** hagen has joined #haiku[09:17:28] *** DingoSaar has quit IRC[09:17:36] *** hagen has quit IRC[09:18:02] *** DingoSaar has joined #haiku[09:20:20] *** GeneralDuke has joined #haiku[09:34:24] *** stippi has joined #haiku[09:34:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:37:31] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[09:41:02] *** Dane has joined #haiku[09:48:34] *** leszek has joined #haiku[10:03:34] *** Dane has quit IRC[10:09:14] *** _3dEyes has joined #haiku[10:31:09] *** Bodhi has joined #haiku[10:31:38] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[10:49:12] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[10:55:16] *** AsalleKim has quit IRC[10:59:52] *** Dane has joined #haiku[11:04:25] *** Dane has quit IRC[11:12:56] *** nighty^ has joined #haiku[11:15:59] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[11:16:28] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[11:27:23] *** Max-Might has joined #haiku[11:29:36] *** Dane has joined #haiku[11:36:53] *** Dane has quit IRC[12:00:40] *** Bodhi has quit IRC[12:14:29] *** AsalleKim has joined #haiku[12:31:04] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[12:32:16] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[12:32:32] *** Dane has joined #haiku[12:32:38] *** Akuji has quit IRC[12:34:37] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[12:52:59] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[12:56:57] *** Dane has quit IRC[13:04:08] *** nighty^ has quit IRC[13:05:29] *** nighty^ has joined #haiku[13:07:18] *** AsalleKim has quit IRC[13:09:38] *** Dane has joined #haiku[13:09:53] *** Dane has quit IRC[13:13:39] *** oblo has joined #haiku[13:18:26] *** Dane has joined #haiku[13:21:09] *** oblo has quit IRC[13:43:05] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[13:59:38] *** shaggy814 has quit IRC[14:08:46] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[14:13:13] <Not-4e01> [haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[14:13:17] <Not-4e01> [haikuports] diversys a5af160 - vncserver: added version for 1.26[14:14:04] *** oblo has joined #haiku[14:45:09] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[14:45:28] *** _Dario has quit IRC[14:54:03] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[14:54:10] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[14:54:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[14:54:56] *** Guma has joined #haiku[14:58:02] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[15:05:22] *** stippi has quit IRC[15:13:56] *** Guma has quit IRC[15:18:31] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[15:30:51] *** stippi has joined #haiku[15:30:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[15:39:34] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[15:42:51] *** wesbluemarine has joined #haiku[15:45:45] *** m4tx has joined #haiku[16:02:12] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[16:06:22] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[16:08:12] <waddlesplash> jessicah: don't argue with lawyers, it doesn't often make sense :p[16:11:46] *** _3dEyes has quit IRC[16:13:06] *** pisculichi has quit IRC[16:13:06] *** pisculichi has joined #haiku[16:15:54] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev49032 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c0af54cc3b75+%5E9bf9ee380686[16:15:55] <HAIKU-irker599> c0af54cc3b75: cubieboard4: Update SPL bin url to official source[16:22:24] *** Dane has quit IRC[16:32:28] *** echelog has joined #haiku[16:32:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v echelog[16:35:40] *** Dane has joined #haiku[16:36:39] <Dane> Haiku seems like it has a pretty serious problem with pathmonitor looper going ballistic these days.[16:36:48] <Dane> Anybody else running into that? I have it on multiple computers.[16:37:11] <Dane> Not EVERY boot, but often. It pegs out one of the two processors in ProcessController[16:37:59] <Diver> I saw it a few days ago[16:38:11] <Diver> in VBox[16:39:15] <Diver> kill −9 input_server ; sleep 2 ; /system/servers/input_server fixes it[16:40:24] <Diver> when it happened keyboard didn't work, so I had to type it in Keymaps and paste to Terminal[16:42:43] <rNyhus> Which is why we really need that on-screen keyboard app that is bit-rotting in a patch somewhere...[16:42:44] *** Nach0z has quit IRC[16:54:39] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[16:56:20] *** Guma has joined #haiku[17:04:16] *** _marc` has quit IRC[17:05:28] <Dane> rNyhus: What's even more sorely needed is a fix for the pathlooper problem.[17:11:35] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[17:11:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:13:28] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1599 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/1599[17:17:27] *** Nach0z has joined #haiku[17:17:51] *** Guma_ has joined #haiku[17:18:36] *** Guma has quit IRC[17:21:12] *** oblo has quit IRC[17:39:07] *** GeneralDuke has quit IRC[17:43:38] *** itPuffinB has joined #haiku[17:55:05] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[17:55:11] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[17:55:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[18:04:11] *** leszek has quit IRC[18:09:00] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[18:20:52] *** stippi has quit IRC[18:22:41] <Max-Might> does the clipboard sharing work with virtualbox?[18:23:59] <humdinger> Max-Might: there's a package for VirtualBox guest additions in HaikuDepot[18:26:41] <Max-Might> I installed it, does not seem to work :([18:27:45] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:32:38] *** Akuji has quit IRC[18:33:14] <humdinger> Max-Might: Does installing the package automatically launch the Replicant in the Deskbar?[18:33:44] <Diver> no, it doesn't[18:34:08] <humdinger> Then Max-Might should try starting it manually, I guess.[18:34:31] <Diver> Max-Might: start VBoxTray from Terminal. You also need to enable clipboard sharing in VM settings[18:37:25] <Max-Might> now it works, thanks[18:42:34] <waddlesplash> rNyhus: ah right that[18:42:40] * waddlesplash adds it to his TODO list[18:52:38] <waddlesplash> grr, shared clipboard broke[18:52:45] <waddlesplash> there goes my productivity[19:00:40] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[19:00:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PulkoMandy[19:12:46] *** Hare has joined #haiku[19:12:49] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49033 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=0fc30d893468+%5Ec0af54cc3b75[19:12:50] <HAIKU-irker599> 9e11c3adb1eb: Deskbar: No need to use dynamic allocation, remove unused headers.[19:12:51] <HAIKU-irker599> 0fc30d893468: Deskbar: Sanitize the usage of BMessage[19:18:39] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49034 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=edcc37c64af6+%5E0fc30d893468[19:18:40] <HAIKU-irker599> edcc37c64af6: ProcessController and VolumeControl: solve BMessage kind of memory leak.[19:20:15] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1636 of haiku-master-arm is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-mmc] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-arm/builds/1636 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>[19:22:36] *** Zartan has joined #haiku[20:11:20] *** humdinger has quit IRC[20:24:24] *** tqh has quit IRC[20:35:00] *** avril14th has quit IRC[20:35:10] *** avril14th has joined #haiku[20:41:49] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[20:49:00] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[20:49:19] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[20:49:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PulkoMandy[20:51:27] *** bengo_ has joined #haiku[20:52:04] *** Akuji_ has joined #haiku[21:18:37] <rNyhus> Check this out: https://www.linkedin.com/company/haiku-inc- (will post message to haiku-inc mailing list latter today)[21:20:23] <rNyhus> Irc stuffed up url: https://www.linkedin.com/company/haiku-inc-?_mSplash=1[21:24:48] *** rNyhus has quit IRC[21:25:09] *** nighty^ has quit IRC[21:29:31] *** nighty^ has joined #haiku[21:29:50] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[21:30:05] *** Akuji_ has quit IRC[21:30:07] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[21:30:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PulkoMandy[21:30:59] *** Akuji_ has joined #haiku[21:33:29] *** Akuji__ has joined #haiku[21:36:26] *** Akuji_ has quit IRC[21:38:36] *** axeld has joined #haiku[21:38:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[21:39:01] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[21:42:14] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[21:47:21] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[21:58:49] *** Guma_ has quit IRC[22:02:29] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[22:04:13] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev49035 [3 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=384ae40aa53b+%5Eedcc37c64af6[22:04:14] <HAIKU-irker599> 8290e8d3e5cc: BBuffer: Unregister buffer when clone_area fail, fixes #6188.[22:04:15] <HAIKU-irker599> 4232706dc80d: Clean SharedBufferList.h.[22:04:16] <HAIKU-irker599> 384ae40aa53b: Correctly check when the BBuffer failed the registration with the server.[22:10:09] <HAIKU-irker599> haiku.master: janus * hrev49036 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=3000afd7b1a6+%5E384ae40aa53b[22:10:10] <HAIKU-irker599> 3000afd7b1a6: ShowImage: Remember save location[22:12:04] *** tqh has joined #haiku[22:17:54] *** Dane has quit IRC[22:22:43] *** Dane_ has joined #haiku[22:26:59] *** axeld has quit IRC[22:37:45] *** oblo has joined #haiku[22:44:36] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[22:52:38] *** Akuji has quit IRC[22:59:59] *** Akuji__ has quit IRC[23:07:58] *** vdamewood has joined #haiku[23:15:58] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[23:16:30] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[23:22:42] *** nighty^ has quit IRC[23:31:49] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:33:07] *** itPuffinB is now known as BitPuffin[23:36:05] *** irishsul1an has joined #haiku[23:37:43] *** m4tx has quit IRC[23:38:01] *** irishsultan has quit IRC[23:38:23] *** m4tx has joined #haiku[23:41:14] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[23:45:41] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[23:46:12] *** Max-Might has quit IRC